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Outside of the sauna spots mentioned earlier (Malioboro, Alexis and Classic) , are there PR places where girls sit with you and then it's up to you to negotiate from there? Again, I am looking for Vietnamese women mostly as that is my preference. Do they have PR spots in Indonesia?

[QUOTE=Viet Lover;1487153]Outside of the sauna spots mentioned earlier (Malioboro, Alexis and Classic) , are there PR places where girls sit with you and then it's up to you to negotiate from there? Again, I am looking for Vietnamese women mostly as that is my preference. Do they have PR spots in Indonesia?[/QUOTE]Ok, I'm lost. I checked the abbreviations list, no joy, and looked at some of your other posts to see if I could figure out what "PR" means. I think you are asking about bars (?) such as BATS (in Shangri-la Hotel) or possibly some of the upscale clubs (?) such as Red Square or "downscale" Blok M bars? You are extremely UNlikely to find Viet women outside the MPs. (IMHO).

Day 1: Saturday, after a detour by Malioboro to watch the pretty dancers strip fully I met up with a cutie named Lina at Top Gun in Block M, she was not talking to anyone, very shy, first day on the job according to the mamasan who introduced me. The thawing process did not take as long as expected, I took her out to Red Square, which was very much alive last WE and filled with beautiful girls with short skirts dancing on stage. After 1 red island tea Lina was grinding and all over, after an hour or two she suggested we go to the room. Turned out to be really good, stayed until morning. Note: when I originally asked the mama at Block M (I suppose that is who she was) how much I should give Lina she replied "whatever you want". I gave her 800K.

Day 2: Sunday, Red Square is closed, Illigals Club is dead as in no girls and I am the only customer there. Went to Stadium and Mille's.

Day 3: Monday, Red Square is closed, Illigals Club is dead again, took a taxi to Block M, same mamasan but Lina is not there. End up at MyBar after TopGun closes, an "older" (mid 30's?) kind of homey-type lady chats me up, she is very nice and very sweet with big boobs, but not thin and not young, I am sure she would have been voluptuous, I might have considered her if it were not for Annie. This girl Annie had been dancing on stage and was visibly drunk, yet she was so beautiful with a killer body I was mesmerized. Near closing her "sister / friend" pushes her in my arms, she tells some story that she needs 150K for school by morning, has never been to MyBar before. We get back to my room and the story does not hold, she calls her sister "my friend" refuses to get up in the morning whereas she told me she had to leave for school at 7AM, it becomes clear she made it all up to appear more attractive and non-pro. She did not need to, this girl was fantastic and as I said had one the best body ever. At some point I had a guilt trip, what if this was all too good to be true, she looked so young, what if she was not 18, what if it was a setup, what if? I did something I have never done before, searched her purse while she was sleeping, found her I'd, what a relief she was 22. I felt much better after that. Once sober she wanted to come back in the afternoon to swim in the pool then go out at night, gave me her number, I don't know why I did not call.

Day 4: Went to BATS, to see what the hardened pros would look like, did not plan to pick up as I was still exhausted from day 3. Actually the music was great and there were some 8's and 9's (and maybe one 10). I bought a drink for a couple girls, we danced, had fun, they were flirty but no business was discussed at all. I liked both, one with long dark hair (Julia) was from Bali the other (Ella) with reddish hair from Java. BATS closes at 3AM and a 3rd girl joins them, they tell me they are going to eat at Plaza Senayan, do I want to come? Why not? My biggest concern was which one did I like the most? Ella asks me if I like Julia, I say yes, we get into the taxi. We had, I suppose it was breakfast, in the street at a table with rats and stuff around, it was kind of fun me being with these 3 girls. Then Julia disappears and another girl with short hair appears, I am mystified, until I realize Julia was wearing a wig and contacts and just removed both. Not the same girl anymore, she has lost her appeal and my mind is therefore instantly made that I should pick Ella, who has been staying close to me the whole time. At this point no business has been discussed still. They call me a taxi to go back to my hotel. As I get into the taxi after saying goodbyes, Ella approaches and apologizes for not riding with me to my hotel, she lives faraway in the opposite direction. I say OK, but if you want to join me you are welcome to. She gets into the taxi. On the way she asks me if I will give her money, I reassure her. She has to work at 10AM in a store, rarely comes to Jakarta. Back in my room she was the bomb, unbelievable how this quiet girl turned into a tornado, came loudly and would not stop BBBJ and DFK, and also a killer body. I woke her up and gave her 1M, I think that was fair. She was not a hardened pro and provided exactly the service I was hoping for.

I could have spent less money in the Kota parlors (maybe) but then it would all be over in an hour, these experiences lasted the whole night, could easily have been extended into the day if I did not have to work and in the end it was all worth it.

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1487239]Ok, I'm lost. I checked the abbreviations list, no joy, and looked at some of your other posts to see if I could figure out what "PR" means. I think you are asking about bars (?) such as BATS (in Shangri-la Hotel) or possibly some of the upscale clubs (?) such as Red Square or "downscale" Blok M bars? You are extremely UNlikely to find Viet women outside the MPs. (IMHO).[/QUOTE]Sorry. PR stands for "Public Relations" but I guess that might not be a universal euphemism. Basically a bar / club where a girl sits with you for company. Usually the place will have a mamasan so it's not a bunch of freelancers walking to your table. You talk to the mama and she brings girls over. You pick the one (or two or three) you like to sit with you. You are only obligated to tip the girls for their time at your table. Then everything else is up to you to negotiate. However, not all girls will go home with you. Some just really work for the PR tip, nothing extra. Hope that clears it up and I hope my description is accurate.

[QUOTE=Mahal;1487258]I could have spent less money in the Kota parlors (maybe) but then it would all be over in an hour, these experiences lasted the whole night, could easily have been extended into the day if I did not have to work and in the end it was all worth it.[/QUOTE]Well done. Sounds like you had a highly productive few days and saw the best of Jakarta!

This is from last Friday. Taxi to Mailoboro from Sudirman (near Senayan) took less than 20 mins. Got my wristband and went up to the lounge. It must have been around 4pm. Almost all tables were taken and I was shown to one close to where the girls sit (left door). The Chinese mamasan sat with me and was all chatty. She manages the Chinese, Viet, Mongolian, Colombian and Uzbek girls. All at 1. 7 Million for an hour. She told me that the 350K Indo's were no more, and they were now priced at 700k and 1. 2 million. I told her I liked the look of the Mongolian but to give me some time to have a drink. She returned in a few minutes to sit next to me. Showing me some nude protest news in London on her smartphone. She kept trying to sell me the Chinese girls as "good service, good massage" I caved in and asked her for a line up. Within seconds I had about 12 girls around my table with english speakers raising their hands. LOL! I asked 2 to sit next to me, and within a second I knew I wanted Leisha (No. 26). The prettiest face on the most beautiful creature I have laid my eyes on. Smiley, and with a warm personality. She started rubbing my hand and playing with my arm hair. She told me she was from Chong Xing or somewhere and her real name was Xing Tua Tua or something. She refused my offer of a drink and was in no rush. Took my time with a smoke and my Hooergaarden.

We went upstairs to the (very nicely appointed) room. Played around a bit on bed, and jumped into the shower together. Spent a lot of time admiring her and running my tongue all over her. I would give her 7/7 on GFE. She had a hairy cat down there (very chinesey). Cuddled up in bed feeling her soft velvety skin on me. I started doing her missionary and had some trouble and resistance going all in. Took it slow and her pussy felt just perfect once she was warmed up and wet. Hot passionate fucking, lots of moans and groans. Finshed up, and she washed me again in the shower. Suprised me on the bed with a very strong shoulder massage. Great hands. The phone rang to indicate time was up. We took the lift down together and she kissed me goodbye on the 2nd floor. I checked out on the ground level at the cashier. It was 1. 9 Million all in. Paid in cash (3% surcharge for Credit cards). Waited in the lobby while security fetched me a blue bird taxi. Tipped him a 20 and got in to the taxi just as my internet date no. 3 texted saying she was on the way to my hotel. Perfect.

[QUOTE=KiJang;1487407]She told me that the 350K Indo's were no more, and they were now priced at 700k and 1. 2 million.[/QUOTE]That's a shame. I always used to like the lower-priced locals as a warm up before the imports. And the fact they weren't always in a rush or had that superiority complex some imports do.

Anyway, the higher-priced locals at the lounge that go for 700k or 1. 2m are a big rip-off, as many of them were then available the next day at places like M-STAR or 4th floor Stadium with the same old price tag of 350k. I've seen it myself. Maybe they might be freelancers, I don't know.

[QUOTE=Viet Lover;1487271]Sorry. PR stands for "Public Relations" but I guess that might not be a universal euphemism. Basically a bar / club where a girl sits with you for company. Usually the place will have a mamasan so it's not a bunch of freelancers walking to your table. You talk to the mama and she brings girls over. You pick the one (or two or three) you like to sit with you. You are only obligated to tip the girls for their time at your table. Then everything else is up to you to negotiate. However, not all girls will go home with you. Some just really work for the PR tip, nothing extra. Hope that clears it up and I hope my description is accurate.[/QUOTE]Especially the part where "not all the girls will go home with you." I think a similar concept for selling drinks is used in Thailand, clearly in the go-go bars, but I was think of the "coyote" dancers in some of the clubs. In Jakarta, they may try to get you to buy drinks for a combination of reasons, but it would be very rare to meet a lady who wouldn't be your special friend for a night. Again, meeting a Viet under these circumstances would be extremely unlikely. Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=KiJang; 1487407]Taxi to Mailoboro.

The Chinese mamasan sat with me and was all chatty. She told me that the 350K Indo's were no more, and they were now priced at 700k and 1. 2 million.[/QUOTE]Yes, I'm also sorry to read that the 350 K Indo girls at Malioboro are no more.

I remember visiting Malioboro when it first opened in 2007, two visits a week apart, with a 350K Indo girl one time, and a 1-million-+ (1. 2 million? 1. 4 million? Can't remember) Chinese girl the other time, and the Indo girl was better!

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1487565]Yes, I'm also sorry to read that the 350 K Indo girls at Malioboro are no more.

I remember visiting Malioboro when it first opened in 2007, two visits a week apart, with a 350K Indo girl one time, and a 1-million-+ (1. 2 million? 1. 4 million? Can't remember) Chinese girl the other time, and the Indo girl was better![/QUOTE]To Mighty

There are always options like Hotel Travel, Classic and MTR for 350k, I pick up a nice girl at Millie disco around 2am a few night ago for 400k 3 shots stay 5 hrs GFE, the 350k INDO at Malioboro sauna are only average all the top model work at the night club and KTV want 1. 5 MIL.

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[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1487565]Yes, I'm also sorry to read that the 350 K Indo girls at Malioboro are no more.[/QUOTE]Since when? I was there last week and got a standard local girl for that price, maybe you didn't check out the wine bar across from the big bright warehouse where they store the imports.

By the way what's with the dancers there? They used to get naked, or at least topless, last time I visited they were dressed like they had just come from the supermarket in full length blue jeans and white shirts? Any idea?

Had the occasion to stop over in Jakarta a couple of nights and ended up staying in the Le Meridien Hotel. After some reading and courtesy of some advice from our bros, I walked from the hotel across the street to the Fortune Spa. This took place in the early evening but I've seen told subsequently that this could be a dangerous place to walk at night.

Walked into Fortune and made the first rookie mistake. The counter lady asked me if it was my first time and I immediately said yes. They led me upstairs to the lounge area where a number of beautiful hostesses walk you through the offerings. You get to pick standard (410k) , deluxe (471k) , suite (550K) room which includes girl and 2 hour massage. I asked whether full service was included and they said no. I picked the deluxe which was actually a nice room, like and upscale hotel room with a japanese style bed and granite shower. I thought thie hostess who was escorted me to the room was going to provide but service (she was beautiful) but it turns out there was another one waiting in daisy duke shorts and tight t shirt. She was beautiful as well. So while I did not get a choice, I think I lucked out anyway.

If I as not a rookie,. I would have told her I wanted both massage and full service and to get things done within the given 2 hours I. E. Massage / full service but as it was I enjoyed the massage as she worked through the knots in my lower back and legs. Then the time was up and she asked if I wanted to extend. 45 mins for another 120k. Plus 500K for the full service. I sorta bargained her down to 350k and we got into action. She was very skilled orally and being so relaxed from the massage already, felt completely satisfied and drained by her.

So learn from my mistakes if you ever make it down there. While I paid a lot more than what would have been considered normal, I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and am the wiser for it for next time.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1488584]Since when? I was there last week and got a standard local girl for that price, maybe you didn't check out the wine bar across from the big bright warehouse where they store the imports.[/QUOTE]That's weird, I was on the 19th and the wine bar door was shut. One of the counter ladies nearby said closed and when I questioned why she said something about lack of available rooms. I did ask one of the papasans who used to be in the wine bar too and he said the same thing.

Moistureman,

I don't think you made a rookie mistake. 410k is standard for a two-hour massage in a nice room. The charge at Sun City is the same. 350k for full service sounds like an absolute bargain to me. I paid 1 million at Sun City for full service. However, the girl was beautiful and she gave me great service including a wonderful BBBJ. Also, I got free food. I talked to locals there in the restaurant and they told me that was the standard price. Next time, I'm going to Fortune to see if it is as nice as Sun City. It sounds like the FS is much less.

QUOTE=Moistureman; 1488840]Had the occasion to stop over in Jakarta a couple of nights and ended up staying in the Le Meridien Hotel. After some reading and courtesy of some advice from our bros, I walked from the hotel across the street to the Fortune Spa. This took place in the early evening but I've seen told subsequently that this could be a dangerous place to walk at night.

Walked into Fortune and made the first rookie mistake. The counter lady asked me if it was my first time and I immediately said yes. They led me upstairs to the lounge area where a number of beautiful hostesses walk you through the offerings. You get to pick standard (410k) , deluxe (471k) , suite (550K) room which includes girl and 2 hour massage. I asked whether full service was included and they said no. I picked the deluxe which was actually a nice room, like and upscale hotel room with a japanese style bed and granite shower. I thought thie hostess who was escorted me to the room was going to provide but service (she was beautiful) but it turns out there was another one waiting in daisy duke shorts and tight t shirt. She was beautiful as well. So while I did not get a choice, I think I lucked out anyway.

If I as not a rookie. I would have told her I wanted both massage and full service and to get things done within the given 2 hours I. E. Massage / full service but as it was I enjoyed the massage as she worked through the knots in my lower back and legs. Then the time was up and she asked if I wanted to extend. 45 mins for another 120k. Plus 500K for the full service. I sorta bargained her down to 350k and we got into action. She was very skilled orally and being so relaxed from the massage already, felt completely satisfied and drained by her.

So learn from my mistakes if you ever make it down there. While I paid a lot more than what would have been considered normal, I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and am the wiser for it for next time.[/QUOTE]

Moistureman,

I forgot to add that Indo girls at Sun City are much less, and you don't get to choose. I think the price was around the same as Fortune for the massage and 500k for FS. However, if you see the line-up of Chinese girls and pick any one you want, the price is higher. I wanted to pick from the line-up and I wanted to go with one of the beautiful Chinese girls. In any case, I still think you got a great deal.

The price difference between Indo's and foreigners holds up around town. For example, at Hotel Alexis, the girls from China, Vietnam, Thailand, etc. All ran around 1. 3 million for one hour. I don't remember the exact price for the Indo girls, but I think it was in the range of 500k to 700k.