Not sure if you will find this concept working in Indonesia
[QUOTE=Viet Lover;1487271]Sorry. PR stands for "Public Relations" but I guess that might not be a universal euphemism. Basically a bar / club where a girl sits with you for company. Usually the place will have a mamasan so it's not a bunch of freelancers walking to your table. You talk to the mama and she brings girls over. You pick the one (or two or three) you like to sit with you. You are only obligated to tip the girls for their time at your table. Then everything else is up to you to negotiate. However, not all girls will go home with you. Some just really work for the PR tip, nothing extra. Hope that clears it up and I hope my description is accurate.[/QUOTE]Especially the part where "not all the girls will go home with you." I think a similar concept for selling drinks is used in Thailand, clearly in the go-go bars, but I was think of the "coyote" dancers in some of the clubs. In Jakarta, they may try to get you to buy drinks for a combination of reasons, but it would be very rare to meet a lady who wouldn't be your special friend for a night. Again, meeting a Viet under these circumstances would be extremely unlikely. Hope this helps.
Fortune Spa in Jakarta. Reports of a rookie
Had the occasion to stop over in Jakarta a couple of nights and ended up staying in the Le Meridien Hotel. After some reading and courtesy of some advice from our bros, I walked from the hotel across the street to the Fortune Spa. This took place in the early evening but I've seen told subsequently that this could be a dangerous place to walk at night.
Walked into Fortune and made the first rookie mistake. The counter lady asked me if it was my first time and I immediately said yes. They led me upstairs to the lounge area where a number of beautiful hostesses walk you through the offerings. You get to pick standard (410k) , deluxe (471k) , suite (550K) room which includes girl and 2 hour massage. I asked whether full service was included and they said no. I picked the deluxe which was actually a nice room, like and upscale hotel room with a japanese style bed and granite shower. I thought thie hostess who was escorted me to the room was going to provide but service (she was beautiful) but it turns out there was another one waiting in daisy duke shorts and tight t shirt. She was beautiful as well. So while I did not get a choice, I think I lucked out anyway.
If I as not a rookie,. I would have told her I wanted both massage and full service and to get things done within the given 2 hours I. E. Massage / full service but as it was I enjoyed the massage as she worked through the knots in my lower back and legs. Then the time was up and she asked if I wanted to extend. 45 mins for another 120k. Plus 500K for the full service. I sorta bargained her down to 350k and we got into action. She was very skilled orally and being so relaxed from the massage already, felt completely satisfied and drained by her.
So learn from my mistakes if you ever make it down there. While I paid a lot more than what would have been considered normal, I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and am the wiser for it for next time.
You didn't make a rookie mistake
Moistureman,
I don't think you made a rookie mistake. 410k is standard for a two-hour massage in a nice room. The charge at Sun City is the same. 350k for full service sounds like an absolute bargain to me. I paid 1 million at Sun City for full service. However, the girl was beautiful and she gave me great service including a wonderful BBBJ. Also, I got free food. I talked to locals there in the restaurant and they told me that was the standard price. Next time, I'm going to Fortune to see if it is as nice as Sun City. It sounds like the FS is much less.
QUOTE=Moistureman; 1488840]Had the occasion to stop over in Jakarta a couple of nights and ended up staying in the Le Meridien Hotel. After some reading and courtesy of some advice from our bros, I walked from the hotel across the street to the Fortune Spa. This took place in the early evening but I've seen told subsequently that this could be a dangerous place to walk at night.
Walked into Fortune and made the first rookie mistake. The counter lady asked me if it was my first time and I immediately said yes. They led me upstairs to the lounge area where a number of beautiful hostesses walk you through the offerings. You get to pick standard (410k) , deluxe (471k) , suite (550K) room which includes girl and 2 hour massage. I asked whether full service was included and they said no. I picked the deluxe which was actually a nice room, like and upscale hotel room with a japanese style bed and granite shower. I thought thie hostess who was escorted me to the room was going to provide but service (she was beautiful) but it turns out there was another one waiting in daisy duke shorts and tight t shirt. She was beautiful as well. So while I did not get a choice, I think I lucked out anyway.
If I as not a rookie. I would have told her I wanted both massage and full service and to get things done within the given 2 hours I. E. Massage / full service but as it was I enjoyed the massage as she worked through the knots in my lower back and legs. Then the time was up and she asked if I wanted to extend. 45 mins for another 120k. Plus 500K for the full service. I sorta bargained her down to 350k and we got into action. She was very skilled orally and being so relaxed from the massage already, felt completely satisfied and drained by her.
So learn from my mistakes if you ever make it down there. While I paid a lot more than what would have been considered normal, I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and am the wiser for it for next time.[/QUOTE]