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[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1354302]Do these bars and clubs with 9* & 10* women even exist or are they just a myth. The reasoning goes that that they must exist because Hong Kong is a world class city. It's like a invisible magic kingdom that we don't have the key to enter. Anybody been to the magic kingdom? And I am not talking about Disneyland.[/QUOTE]Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We are generally not here to find a perfect beauty girl to marry.

What I care most is the friendliness, attitude, super duper sex and companionship. Any girl can turn into 10 with these qualities.

I have met and enjoyed very pretty girls in China, Here in USA as my girlfriends. But only the girls with the above qualities are still fresh in my mind.

So my advice is do not go looking for 9-10-11 on a scale.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1354314]Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What I care most is the friendliness, attitude, super duper sex and companionship. Any girl can turn into 10 with these qualities. I have met and enjoyed very pretty girls in China, Here in USA as my girlfriends. But only the girls with the above qualities are still fresh in my mind.[/QUOTE]I agree with what you are saying. But I can't really get into the passion part if I am not attracted to the girl I am with. It is just no good for me with girls I consider on a 5-4-3 scale. I know because I have been with some plain Janes in my time that were really nice girls, but unless my view of them changes and I start to find them attractive; its not that good for me. It's all very subjective and my feelings about a girl can change through time. You may think my 7* girl is nothing special and vice-versa I, yours. And on one night, I might not see anything special in a particular girl and then a week later I may find the same girl desirable. But over time, my tastes seem to be pretty consistent.

In the end it does come down to personality, attitude and chemistry. The girls I remember best are the ones that I felt a connection with in some way and who made an imprint on my mind. At a certain level the girl's looks had little to do with the feeling I got from her. But, you can't predict the degree to which things will turn out until afterwards so I still screen out lesser attractive girls in my selection process. All things being equal, I want to pick girls from the best looking pool of talent I can find. Then I try to make my selection based on personality and body language. Good looking girls can have good attitudes and give great sex too. I think it is a mistake to discriminate against good looking women just because they look great. Some of them make great lovers and are really good girls. The trick is to get passed their appearance and not to be swayed by their extra-ordinary star qualities. Just treat them as you would any other girl because that is what they are. Just girls. Get rid of the pedestal and have a good time. The vast majority of my girls are in the 6-7 range with a few in the 8* ball park. True 9* & 10* girls are rare and hard to come by plus they will cost a pretty Baht/Peso/Mop/HK/Sin $.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1354138]If there were / are bars with 10's you aint going to be reading about it here. Nothing worse than finding a nice new place than finiding it overrun with punters.[/QUOTE]Hey.

I thought you guys enjoyed sharing new talents.

Anyway you can't share a 10.

Because you find a 10, ask your mates opinion and he gives her a 9.

[QUOTE=Boarer; 1354173]Wow. That is a little dictatorial, self-serving, impatient and pushy.

If you did RTFF and read between the lines, you will find a wealth of information for visitors from all walks of life. Between, Ramm, Tiger, Grand Paradise, Chantik, one would know how to hit Monger Central for less than US$3 from the airport. Cannot do that in many world class cities. Also, all the information you are seeking are within the last 6 month at most.

If you are looking for a guide, try Chantik (my best guides were WGs who took me under their wings and other places) or Uncle G from his bar stool at the Handle Bar.

My experience is that girls are like a fine wine; they need to be savored and sipped slowly to fully enjoy their body. If you come in a heated rush, at least one party will be disappointed. IMHO, chill.[/QUOTE]Boarer.

You must be in control of your emotions. Ha Ha ha.

[QUOTE=Boarer; 1354177]Yes, many do age well and do get better over time. Also, like Imelda Marcos, their passport age ages much slower than time on an atomic clock.

Think my problem is that many ladies are willing to give it away for love when younger but add money to the equation later in life when their hooks always come up empty.[/QUOTE]This is the Indo / Filipina excuse. I became a hooker because my be / f broke my heart. Sounds good the first time.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1354331]I agree with what you are saying. But I can't really get into the passion part if I am not attracted to the girl I am with. It is just no good for me with girls I consider on a 5-4-3 scale. I know because I have been with some plain Janes in my time that were really nice girls, but unless my view of them changes and I start to find them attractive; its not that good for me. It's all very subjective and my feelings about a girl can change through time. You may think my 7* girl is nothing special and vice-versa I, yours. And on one night, I might not see anything special in a particular girl and then a week later I may find the same girl desirable. But over time, my tastes seem to be pretty consistent.

In the end it does come down to personality, attitude and chemistry. The girls I remember best are the ones that I felt a connection with in some way and who made an imprint on my mind. At a certain level the girl's looks had little to do with the feeling I got from her. But, you can't predict the degree to which things will turn out until afterwards so I still screen out lesser attractive girls in my selection process. All things being equal, I want to pick girls from the best looking pool of talent I can find. Then I try to make my selection based on personality and body language. Good looking girls can have good attitudes and give great sex too. I think it is a mistake to discriminate against good looking women just because they look great. Some of them make great lovers and are really good girls. The trick is to get passed their appearance and not to be swayed by their extra-ordinary star qualities. Just treat them as you would any other girl because that is what they are. Just girls. Get rid of the pedestal and have a good time. The vast majority of my girls are in the 6-7 range with a few in the 8* ball park. True 9* & 10* girls are rare and hard to come by plus they will cost a pretty Baht / Peso / Mop / HK / Sin $.[/QUOTE]Two things about the 9/10 lady. Maybe a 9/10 for you, but your mate may rate them a 7/8. So Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder. And a 9/10 may be a starfish in bed.

These are the risks of punting.

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe; 1354131]Your website.

Hmmmm! LOL!

SEAJ[/QUOTE]I am merely answering Boarer's correct observation that the age of ladies in the Bars is older than you think. Think I have an idea of the age of the ladies.

You don't need to promote me. I can do this myself. And the gents who are up with the times know my website. You need to catch up with the times.

Big sweep at Escape last night (and a few other bars) About 15 Police uniform / plain clothes and sniffer dogs. Everyone was asked for I'd. This includes Gwailos. Guessing they were checking for drugs, under-age and overstay. Wednesday is free drinks for ladies in a few bars and in which get under-age. Think there was a reason for Wednesday being targetted.

Apparently Escape is trying to stop regular ladies from leaving with clients before 2 am. Of course the smart girls / guys will organise to meet outside at different times.

Trying to wrap my head around these 141 walk-ups. Maybe someone here can tell me if my research has given me the right impression.

So these 141's are essentially small apartments not used exclusively for sex (some normal folks / families live there). They are all over the place and you can use websites like 141sex. Com to book an appointment or (from what I can tell from a post here) you can just walk right in and knock on their door and make an appointment there and then. Their door isn't open ala the red light district in Europe.

The women on the site 141sex look great (I assume a liberal use of photoshop) and the prices seem reasonable. Some seem to have phone numbers while others don't. Can I assume that those with phone numbers need to be booked ahead of time and those that don't you just show up?

I'm a little leery of this setup. I don't mind walking and climbing steps etc. For the hunt. That's kind of fun. But I get the impression that there isn't a highly concentrated area of these 141's, when you find one there may not be any sign indicating that residents of the building offer those services if you wander by one, and when you do find a building it is unlikely that more than a few SPs work in any given building.

Are my impressions correct? I've found it difficult to cobble together info on these places. I really like the idea of wondering around and checking out girls. I don't really want to book an appointment. But this setup sounds a bit odd to me.

Also, what's the difference between a hotel walk-up and 141 walk-up? Just the building?

Thanks and sorry for the long post.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1354691]Apparently Escape is trying to stop regular ladies from leaving with clients before 2 am. Of course the smart girls / guys will organise to meet outside at different times.[/QUOTE]Guess that it why it is looking busier. But hard of guys who need boots on the home ground by 12A.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1354342]This is the Indo / Filipina excuse. I became a hooker because my be / f broke my heart. Sounds good the first time.[/QUOTE]I believe everything the girls say. Takes too much energy, effort, and time to think otherwise. Was obliging a gal on her revenge f*k recently. For the first ten minutes of first pop, she was on the phone (to her bf?). She gave her full attention to the subsequent pops. LOL Go figure.

[QUOTE=Boarer; 1355014]Guess that it why it is looking busier. But hard of guys who need boots on the home ground by 12A.

I believe everything the girls say. Takes too much energy, effort, and time to think otherwise. Was obliging a gal on her revenge f*k recently. For the first ten minutes of first pop, she was on the phone (to her bf?). She gave her full attention to the subsequent pops. LOL Go figure.[/QUOTE]Your second paragraph is true.

It often happens.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1354346]I am merely answering Boarer's correct observation that the age of ladies in the Bars is older than you think. Think I have an idea of the age of the ladies.

You don't need to promote me. I can do this myself. And the gents who are up with the times know my website. You need to catch up with the times.[/QUOTE]LMAO!

I think most guys on this board knows very well that you DO know how to promote and promote and promote and promote. Yourself!

Yeah, you're right. You and I, people our age, we do need to catch up with the times!

SEAJ

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe;1355112]...You and I, people [b]our age[/b]...[/QUOTE]Joe, come on, I hope I am not revealing a state secret when I say: this statement is not fair. One more difference: In Asia, many [b]ladies[/b] look younger, we don't.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1354173]If you are looking for a guide, try Chantik . or Uncle G from his bar stool at the Handle Bar.[/QUOTE]Boarer. Sadly, I have been travelling a lot lately, so have rarely been down in WC during past three months or so.

But am here over Christmas and NY. (Am hoping to convince Chantik to relent and agree to give me a massage as a Christmas present :-D)

If you want to catch up for a festive beer, just drop me a PM.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1354302]Do these bars and clubs with 9* & 10* women even exist or are they just a myth. The reasoning goes that that they must exist because Hong Kong is a world class city. It's like a invisible magic kingdom that we don't have the key to enter. Anybody been to the magic kingdom? And I am not talking about Disneyland.[/QUOTE]In my experience. 9s and 10s are crap in bed. I'll always pick a nice 7 as my first choice