Makati

Many years ago (1980's) I was hanging out with some guys and gals at a friend's place. There was this stunning tall and sexy girl who I wanted to get with real bad. However, she liked this guy who was there. Try as she could she could not get with him, he was just not interested. He was ordinary looking and not gay. By the end of the get together she ended up referring to him as a priest Some guys just have different tastes. I don't regard a guy criticizing the looks of girls I like as anything worth considering.

Off back to UK for Christmas next weekend so had my last venture of the year last night. Started in traditional Handlebar then headed over to the new Iron Horse Saloon. I'm 99% sure that the owners must be people who previously owned the Coyote BBQ place that was on Burgos and closed a few months ago. Setup is exactly the same, and I think uniforms are too. I'm not sure how successful this place will be though, when went in, there was one other person in the bar, it's on a street that does not have a large amount of footfall, hence the large neon signs to try and attract people's attention. Time will tell I guess, the band was great though.

Moved on to Lips next, the little venture into Saloon meant we arrived later than normal and where we normally sit was occupied, so we sat on the left-hand side, rather than the right from when you walk in. Unfortunately, seats were knackered, we moved but new seats were just as bad. Unusually only had one drink here, the number of girls was down from the usual amount, and there were not as many stunners proportionally as other nights I've been in.

Next headed to Fyre as not been there for a long time. Some very good-looking girls were in, they had an unusal business model though of you having to sign for drinks before they bring them to you. I have never seen this before, and I've been in here before and waited 15 minutes for a drink. I asked that they bring drinks, then I'll sign, same as every other bar, it caused bit of fuss and she had to ask permission, and instead, they billed us out on the round. Fyre is one of the weirdest bars on Burgos as they appear to be doing everything in a different way from other bars, drinks were also the most expensive beers of the night.

Decided to give Par Avion a try as have never been in there. Some girls were outside, they were real lookers and offered to escort us upstairs, I thought things were looking up on what had been a bit of a dreary night so far. They instead tried to get us to go in Lolipop, but we pressed ahead and went up the extra flight of stairs, turned out to be a bit of a mistake, but made worse ones. Par Avion is not really a gogo, it is a fairly small single-room bar, pool table was good and had a couple of games, not played for ages so was good to give balls a smack.

Finally, we headed over to Maison, and the evening was rescued. My favourite girl was back and she was keen to make it up after not seeing her for a long time. Got in the good seats, she got naked, squirted a fair bit, then did some excellent sucking. Let the good times roll.

Ok I actually inteded to post this a few weeks back. But my laptop broke, but I had already typed most of the report and luckily saved it before posting haha. So yea replying to an old bit but here goes:

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2867464]All tip prices are pre-negotiated prior to leaving the bar (no Burgos gogo girl will agree to a barfine without pre-negotiating her tip amount first).[/QUOTE]I'm going to contest this statement. Even though I know you are actually right. Contradicting myself already! Haha. No I think I found a rare gem that went along without negotiating the price. Now that felt a little tricky for me too, I had no idea what she was going to charge me. I had in mind that I would end up paying 5-6 k, but I was like let's gamble on her she looked really nice for me.

Longer story, or actually let's do my Makati review. It is my first time in PH and tbh, the flight was a little rougher on me than I thought, so first 1-2 days I took it easier. Usually in that kinda case I try find a MP that doesn't mind doing a little something something. Walking around Makati (Burgos area) there don't seem to be many, and most don't scream like they have options available. Did end up finding one that looked interesting enough. The basic price was like 1 k for 1 HR and as expected options were available, however HJ 1 k, BJ 2 k incl her undress. But nothing else. So was a little dissapointing, considering there wasn't going to happen much else I chose the HJ and that was it. Not the best choice maybe but ok for me at the time.

Then the next day I couldn't resist myself and order a Nuru. The girls on there looked so good I just had to try. I realized and expected that there would be extra pricing (tip) on top. Welll. There was 0 massage, she wouldn't even know what to do I think. She was exactly like the pictures however, very very pretty little thing. But pricing was 5 k HJ, 10 k BJ and 20 k all the-way. Ye so emm no, sorry that is just insane. So I lost on this one, strongly advice against this service.

Then 3rd day!. I went to the bars, don't remember all the names was around midnight. Walked in a few to peek inside, didn't see much or those that we're interesting seemed to be with guys already. I expected to find something at Neon. However not there either, they guided me via an indoor way to FYRE, but I knew they have very high barfine. But also nothing interesting for my taste. Then last bar and I was going to give up. I walk in, place doesn't look very fancy. Some girls rush over right away. But then I look right, the cutest little one on the stage. Sooo I sit down. Have a drink, get some arm and leg massage from the attention hungry ladies. Didn't take long for the leg lady to feel me up either hehe, they we're definitly good at trying!. But I had eyes for the girl on stage, so few minutes in I let them know and she get called over. She was super shy! Just my thing so perfect. Waitress comes over for drinks, they all wanted one but that was a little to much for me so I get one for the girl I asked for. You'd expect the attantion ladies to leave after this right? But nope. They stay LOL.

She took her time on the LD and I tried to not go to quick on mine either. Just as she finishes her drink I was about to suggest to get out of there. Waitress lady comes over for a fill-up but immediately said I wanted to get out of there to prevent an extra LD on the tab. She sits down, explains the barine is 2. 8 k. What! Only 2. 8 k? I had totally expected like 3. 5 k or upwards. But fine that was all good. But so I look at my lady and ask her, what do you want (charge)? And she laughs well giggles and then says. "we talk later in the room, I go with you ok".

Later. In the room, she quite quickly starts with her hands moving around like she wanted to start things off, so me being polite remind her that we need to discuss her price. She says, you pay what you think is right. Ehhhh ok? So I joke, so for free? Haha she didn't deny but I didn't let her because depending on service of course I was intending to pay her anyways.

Later she explains that she for real sometimes doesn't (want to) charge if she really likes the guy. But she also told stories that she sometimes gets quite a lot like 10 k+ for regular LT by handling customers this way.

She ended up staying LT with me too, and well a long LT actually. I wasn't in a rush in the morning and she really enjoyed the normal bed apperantly she left around 1 pm. Sleeping most of it, well she did initiate something fun in the morning too was a nice wake up haha and all really like felt natural so ye good service!. But I do think this is a rare rare gem. Wanted to pick her up but she was gone rest of the month. And by from what I understand she hops between cities.

And then I got another story brewing which is even better. Or well. It's a bit unsure if I manage to convince this one, but if I do. I'll post it up. On my personal scale she scores 11 out of 10 at least, no I'm lying make that 12 .

Spoiler, since I'm late posting this. There will be a follow-up soon about this hehe. But not sure where to post it as we met in Makati yes but I took her on a trip.

[QUOTE=SlickLicker;2877208]Then the next day I couldn't resist myself and order a Nuru. The girls on there looked so good I just had to try. I realized and expected that there would be extra pricing (tip) on top. Welll. There was 0 massage, she wouldn't even know what to do I think. She was exactly like the pictures however, very very pretty little thing. But pricing was 5 k HJ, 10 k BJ and 20 k all the-way. Ye so emm no, sorry that is just insane. So I lost on this one, strongly advice against this service.[/QUOTE]Damn, thanks for the report. I'm staying in Makati for my first time in Ph during Feb. I've only hobbied in Europe before and I do love an erotic massage (Prague is king for this). I've also been searching for a proper Nuru massage with the gel instead of the oil. I think I've been looking at the same website as you and was hoping to try them out. Sucks if it's just an escort agency in disguise. Need to find a proper massage outcall / Incall or I'll need to go to Japan one day.

Out of curiosity, which masseuse did you pick? Did you do anything with her or just send her packing with nothing?

Burgos report. Spent 3 weeks there recently, prior to the blessed Christmas. As we got to the 5-6 days prior to noche buena (NB), things thinned out. Traffic got lighter all-around, foot traffic on Burgos (customers) thinned out, and gogo girl numbers started to slowly drop (from the normal 100%, down to about 60% on NB). I only hit a few bars for a drink or two for perving purposes. Most nights I didn't hit the bars, and on nights where I did go hopping, it was 2 drinks in one bar, or 1-2 drink each two bars (an hour and out).

Street action. Moving towards NB, the number of girls of all looks (hot-to-not), ages, skank rating (to include tatoos and missing teeth), and bakla increased nightly. The night before NB is typically one of the largest numbers of girls, while typically the smallest number of fellas. The desperation increased, and while I didn't get an initial-price drop, I quickly got counter-offers of big price drops. For instance if a girl said p3000 initially, and I countered with 1000, she'd counter with 1500 (skipping 2500 and 2000). It was easy pickin's at the time.

Bars report. [B]Bourbon[/B] is completely out of the chica business. It is a full-on live band resto / bar, same as Cubana Cafe. A marquee outside lists the bands for each night of the week. Clientelle is almost completely made up, at any given table, of 1 or more foreigners there with either his pinay asawa, or tonight's date (tinder, gogo girl, etc). I went in several times with a girl for food and drink, and only 1 time was there another customer there younger than me. Also I didn't hear any songs in Filipino. Bands were pretty good, its classic rock. The place is fairly full by 9 pm (its possible that the geriatric crowd must be in bed by 11 pm). Rum / coke was p380, beer 160.

[B]Alibi[/B] (next door to the old Mixed Nuts, in the direction of the old Jools). Previously a gogo bar, was remodeled late last year. Where previously was a dancing stage with 3 stripper poles, the poles are gone and the stage houses disco and loudspeakers for live band. Several nights a week is live band, otherwise disco. I poked my head in most nights just to see what was happening. When the disco guy on stage was going great guns, there were no customers. When there was live band, there were either no customers, or 2-3 customers. I stopped in several times with a date or alone to listen to the band. Its classic rock, and when there are other customers there its mostly grey haired gringos. One evening there it appered to be an older all-gringo band. The singer had a really good voice. He was joined on stage a bit later by another old gringo singer. They were very talented. Surprised its still in biz given the low number of customers. Beer p150 (+15 service charge = 165). Bottle water p100.

[B]Par Avion / Nautica.[/B] The only bar with 2 names, and nobody working there can explain why. 14 girls, 22 girls, and about 20 girls another night (different nights). On the night with 14 girls, there were 10 spinners and 4 chubs. Only 1 chub was booby, the other 3 were flatties with junk in all the other wrong places. Of the spinners, all were flatties with tight flat tummies and good asses. All were aged 30 or less and I would have done any of the spinners. P350 for rum / coke, p160 for beer.

[B]Champaigne bar.[/B] New bar / old bar. It replaces the defunct Amore bar on Ebro St. It is just 30 meters away from both Lokal hostel and Alley 8 on Ebro. It is directly behind Fyre bar on Burgos. The old Amore was Japanese owned / themed, with a p7000 barfine and rarely saw any girls dancing on stage (or in bikinis, GRO were often fully clothed). The new Champaigne has the same layout inside, but on stage now are more GRO dancers in bikinis and skin-showing outfits. Barfine p3900. Beer p160. The gogo dancers were a complete range of chub to hot.

[B]V8[/B], only 1 visit. 17 girls, 6 of them on stage (the rest: a few with customers for LD, the rest congregated in front of the stage area sitting around). Good atmosphere. Of the 15 girls, 13 were yes girls for me. The remaining two gals had good bods, but something about their faces said NO. Its a butt-load of great asses. P380 for rum / coke.

[QUOTE=SlickLicker;2877208]She took her time on the LD and I tried to not go to quick on mine either. Just as she finishes her drink I was about to suggest to get out of there. Waitress lady comes over for a fill-up but immediately said I wanted to get out of there to prevent an extra LD on the tab. She sits down, explains the barine is 2. 8 k. What! Only 2. 8 k? I had totally expected like 3. 5 k or upwards. But fine that was all good. But so I look at my lady and ask her, what do you want (charge)? And she laughs well giggles and then says. "we talk later in the room, I go with you ok".

Later. In the room, she quite quickly starts with her hands moving around like she wanted to start things off, so me being polite remind her that we need to discuss her price. She says, you pay what you think is right. Ehhhh ok? So I joke, so for free? Haha she didn't deny but I didn't let her because depending on service of course I was intending to pay her anyways.[/QUOTE]Sorry SL I didn't reply to this sooner. The idea that the girl will discuss with you later in the room her fee is novel to me. However there is nothing wrong with that. I also imagine that girls who are new to the bar might also feel shy to discuss this in the bar (at first). Other gents weigh in. Glad it worked well for you.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2880798][B]Par Avion / Nautica.[/B] The only bar with 2 names, and nobody working there can explain why. 14 girls, 22 girls, and about 20 girls another night (different nights). On the night with 14 girls, there were 10 spinners and 4 chubs. Only 1 chub was booby, the other 3 were flatties with junk in all the other wrong places. Of the spinners, all were flatties with tight flat tummies and good asses. All were aged 30 or less and I would have done any of the spinners. P350 for rum / coke, p160 for beer.[/QUOTE]My understanding of it is that Nautika is on ground floor, Lollipop on 1st floor and Par Avion on 2nd floor. Not sure how they are interlinked, but you can definitely take girls from Nautika to Lollipop if you want to. Only been in Par Avion once, it was not a Gogo.

You must have had too many rums and cokes Westy. The most famous two name bar on Burgos is 'Plan be & Kojax'. Like they couldn't decide which famous prepandemic bar to names themselves after, so they took two.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2880798]Burgos report. Spent 3 weeks there recently, prior to the blessed Christmas. As we got to the 5-6 days prior to noche buena (NB), things thinned out. Traffic got lighter all-around, foot traffic on Burgos (customers) thinned out, and gogo girl numbers started to slowly drop (from the normal 100%, down to about 60% on NB). I only hit a few bars for a drink or two for perving purposes. Most nights I didn't hit the bars, and on nights where I did go hopping, it was 2 drinks in one bar, or 1-2 drink each two bars (an hour and out).

Street action. Moving towards NB, the number of girls of all looks (hot-to-not), ages, skank rating (to include tatoos and missing teeth), and bakla increased nightly. The night before NB is typically one of the largest numbers of girls, while typically the smallest number of fellas. The desperation increased, and while I didn't get an initial-price drop, I quickly got counter-offers of big price drops. For instance if a girl said p3000 initially, and I countered with 1000, she'd counter with 1500 (skipping 2500 and 2000). It was easy pickin's at the time.

Bars report. [B]Bourbon[/B] is completely out of the chica business. It is a full-on live band resto / bar, same as Cubana Cafe. A marquee outside lists the bands for each night of the week. Clientelle is almost completely made up, at any given table, of 1 or more foreigners there with either his pinay asawa, or tonight's date (tinder, gogo girl, etc). I went in several times with a girl for food and drink, and only 1 time was there another customer there younger than me. Also I didn't hear any songs in Filipino. Bands were pretty good, its classic rock. The place is fairly full by 9 pm (its possible that the geriatric crowd must be in bed by 11 pm). Rum / coke was p380, beer 160..[/QUOTE]I told the manager he should start serving gumbo and fried oysters catfish the whole thing. He said they were looking into it. That place has potential to be a cool place to eat and bring chicks if they overhaul the menu and get rid of that disgusting Philippine food.

[QUOTE=Muttley81;2880858]You must have had too many rums and cokes Westy. The most famous two name bar on Burgos is 'Plan be & Kojax'. Like they couldn't decide which famous prepandemic bar to names themselves after, so they took two.[/QUOTE]I may have given away my secrets. Like what kind of drinks I like. Or girls I like. Thinking-while-drinking is not my strong point.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2880861]I told the manager he should start serving gumbo and fried oysters catfish the whole thing. He said they were looking into it. That place has pontetial to be a cool place to eat and bring chicks if they overhaul the menu and get rid of that disgusting Philippine food.[/QUOTE]A little help. Which place were you referring to?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2880916]A little help. Which place were you referring to?[/QUOTE]Bourbon New Orleans.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2880804]Sorry SL I didn't reply to this sooner. The idea that the girl will discuss with you later in the room her fee is novel to me. However there is nothing wrong with that. I also imagine that girls who are new to the bar might also feel shy to discuss this in the bar (at first). Other gents weigh in. Glad it worked well for you.[/QUOTE]I've left a bar with girl (s) many times without discussing prices. There are a few prerequisites:

1/. My face is known in the bar.

2/. Occasionally, my target will ask other girls, who I have taken before, for a reference check.

3/. I don't speak tagalog nor bisaya but elsewhere, I can use the local language so as soon as I open my mouth it's clear that I've played the game before.

4/. In the bar, I'm not afraid to spend a few bucks to have a good time. Again, it's obvious that I know the game and am not going to suddenly expect her to be a freebie.

This also applies online where many girls don't want to be labelled but won't refuse a "gift" when leaving.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. For clarity, if we are confining the discussion only to Burgos, I don't think I've ever left there without clarifying expectations. If I lived in town, the above would still hold.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2881080]I've left a bar with girl (s) many times without discussing prices. There are a few prerequisites:


P.S. For clarity, if we are confining the discussion only to Burgos, I don't think I've ever left there without clarifying expectations. If I lived in town, the above would still hold.

G.[/QUOTE]Almost every girl I've picked up online there was like that. Never an upfront negotiation over pricing, but always willing to accept "taxi" money, which I always give.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2880861]I told the manager he should start serving gumbo and fried oysters catfish the whole thing. He said they were looking into it. That place has potential to be a cool place to eat and bring chicks if they overhaul the menu and get rid of that disgusting Philippine food.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2880916]A little help. Which place were you referring to?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2881078]Bourbon New Orleans.[/QUOTE]Yes, and no. Almost all of the foreigners there are white, and they are rarely without their asawa. Keeping some pinoy foods on the menu, especially pulutans (snacks, or smaller-portion standard foods like sisig, chicken skin, french fries) for the pinoy segment. But yes, beefing up the western items might be a great idea (especially seafood). Why not? Cubana cafe has a large eclectic menu.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2880798]Bars report. [B]Bourbon[/B] is completely out of the chica business. It is a full-on live band resto / bar, same as Cubana Cafe. A marquee outside lists the bands for each night of the week. Clientelle is almost completely made up, at any given table, of 1 or more foreigners there with either his pinay asawa, or tonight's date (tinder, gogo girl, etc). I went in several times with a girl for food and drink, and only 1 time was there another customer there younger than me. Also I didn't hear any songs in Filipino. Bands were pretty good, its classic rock. The place is fairly full by 9 pm (its possible that the geriatric crowd must be in bed by 11 pm). Rum / coke was p380, beer 160.

[B]Alibi[/B] (next door to the old Mixed Nuts, in the direction of the old Jools). Previously a gogo bar, was remodeled late last year. Where previously was a dancing stage with 3 stripper poles, the poles are gone and the stage houses disco and loudspeakers for live band. Several nights a week is live band, otherwise disco. I poked my head in most nights just to see what was happening. When the disco guy on stage was going great guns, there were no customers. When there was live band, there were either no customers, or 2-3 customers. I stopped in several times with a date or alone to listen to the band. Its classic rock, and when there are other customers there its mostly grey haired gringos. One evening there it appeared to be an older all-gringo band. The singer had a really good voice. He was joined on stage a bit later by another old gringo singer. They were very talented. Surprised its still in biz given the low number of customers. Beer p150 (+15 service charge = 165). Bottle water p100.
[/QUOTE]I forgot to mention Alley 8 hotel has a resto / bar next door. Think its called [B]Vice[/B] (location Durban St corner Ebro St). Has live band nightly, booze and pulutans. Think my rum / coke was p150. The pic shows an old Google map pic from Covid times. The site has been under construction where the arrow is, and is clean and well-run.

[B]Shooters[/B] restobar is back in biz. Its the resto at the base of Red Planet hotel in Makati. Some pics from the outside, including menu items. Still has pool tables.