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[QUOTE=DanGood;1422732]I fully agree. The two are fantastic but Vodka is not so good. My dream now is to take both together, Apple because she is really sex addicted and Pok for her enthusiasm and nice body. That will be my next visit to Cherry massage.[/QUOTE]Who is Pok?
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1423049]Who is Pok?[/QUOTE]You are right, Ploy.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1420750]I'd add Poseidon to the list of MPs where a BBBJ is more or less standard.
This is a good point. On more than one occasions when I've been with the same girl a few times, she'd be giving me a BBBJ while I'm on my back only to suddenly try to mount me bareback. Bareback does feel better to the girl too. I've wondered if this is common.[/QUOTE]BBFS is most of these girls 'hail mary. ' It's not like they aren't close to rock bottom as it is so the upside in their minds far outweighs the risk. Not to mention, some girls are high at work, so their judgment might be a little 'relaxed. '
Myself I haven't been to Poseidon in awhile, mostly because for years it was CBJ training. Naturally I suppose this could change at any time (for any of the places mentioned) depending on which cheer guests they have running 'orientation. '
[QUOTE=Dash Riprock; 1423219]BBFS is most of these girls 'hail mary. ' It's not like they aren't close to rock bottom as it is so the upside in their minds far outweighs the risk. Not to mention, some girls are high at work, so their judgment might be a little 'relaxed. '
Myself I haven't been to Poseidon in awhile, mostly because for years it was CBJ training. Naturally I suppose this could change at any time (for any of the places mentioned) depending on which cheer guests they have running 'orientation. '[/QUOTE]Not quite sure what you mean by "Hail Mary" in this context. I think of a Hail Mary as some sort of desperation attempt that has a low likelihood of success. If this is the case, what are they hoping to gain, pregnancy or contracting a STD? I don't think so. So I may be missing your point.
I've always thought it was because the girls preferred bareback and would engage in it after they were comfortable with the guy. I'm fucking two strippers in South Florida, my current home base, on a regular basis. These girls definitely prefer bareback. They are two young "students" who claim to mainly strip and "only see a couple of client on the side." Okay, whatever. First few times we fucked covered; then once while the three of us were together one of them ripped off my condom and said,"I'm tired of this;" then she got into doggy position and starting to wave her ass from side to side. In the heat of the moment I obliged. While I was pumping away she said something like,"I love the way a big hard dick feels in my pussy." I guess she was talking about my dick, whether or not it resembles that remark. Ever since, both girls, when I'm alone with one or with both of them, go back and forth between wanting to do it covered versus bareback. I attribute the vacillation to having a definite preference for bareback but at the same time being worried about contracting an STD.
We all know some percentage of guys ride bareback, so obviously some of the SW comply. I've always wondered about the dynamics. Is it a tiny (or significant) minority of guys and girls who do it? Is the girls motivation the same as the guys, because it feels better? Or are they hoping for (expecting) a bigger tip? Have the guys offered a big tip for bareback? Is it mainly among couples who are well acquainted? Just curious.
[QUOTE=Dash Riprock;1423219]Myself I haven't been to Poseidon in awhile, mostly because for years it was CBJ training. Naturally I suppose this could change at any time (for any of the places mentioned) depending on which cheer guests they have running 'orientation. '[/QUOTE]Not really. I haven't been to Poseidon for quite a while either, but did not experience CBJ as normal. Are you talking basic girls or the upstairs "models" that with faces that aren't so special? Last basic girl there I can remember, tried to fuck me in the bath and certainly no condom was handy. I think she was considering trying to get me hooked into seeing her as often as possible.
Chacha changed the shop. She is actually at the "Thanks massage parlor" just near Geisha. I'm a regular with her and she gives me an incredible service. She nice and funny. Very good for me, she is one the rare Thai girls loving the big one. If you show her interest and be sweet with her, she get so hot.
[QUOTE=Dash Riprock;1423219]Myself I haven't been to Poseidon in awhile, mostly because for years it was CBJ training. Naturally I suppose this could change at any time (for any of the places mentioned) depending on which cheer guests they have running 'orientation. '[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Syzygies;1423250]Not really. I haven't been to Poseidon for quite a while either, but did not experience CBJ as normal. Are you talking basic girls or the upstairs "models" that with faces that aren't so special? Last basic girl there I can remember, tried to fuck me in the bath and certainly no condom was handy. I think she was considering trying to get me hooked into seeing her as often as possible.[/QUOTE]As I mentioned in a previous post, I've always gotten a BBBJ at Poseidon. I generally go with the higher priced fishbowl girls, but have also gotten BBBJs from sideliners. In fact I can't recall ever getting a CBJ from an MP girl, always BBBJ. The only girls who tried to pull a CBJ on me were an occassional BG.
You provide another possible explanation for why a girl would initiate bareback FS, she's trying to set herself apart from the competition. Sounds like for some reason, maybe your good looks and debonair manner, she wanted to hook you by offering you something special.
[QUOTE=DanGood;1423313]Chacha changed the shop. She is actually at the "Thanks .[/QUOTE]Where did Chacha work before she changed to Thanks?
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1423249]We all know some percentage of guys ride bareback, so obviously some of the SW comply. I've always wondered about the dynamics. Is it a tiny (or significant) minority of guys and girls who do it? Is the girls motivation the same as the guys, because it feels better? Or are they hoping for (expecting) a bigger tip? Have the guys offered a big tip for bareback? Is it mainly among couples who are well acquainted? Just curious.[/QUOTE]Hello Sir.
You raise an interesting debate and even if I have no business with the MP's what so ever I think I can write my views regarding this in this thread (I do read about you guys MP's experience so I watch whats going on through internet). I am a big fan of going bareback and the girls I meet they tend to go through the sexual ritual without even raising the condom question (ofcourse there are some exceptions). I require use of condoms for Biergarden(BG)girls and for A+ service (some exceptions also here but never with BG girls) but rarerly do I meet girls raising the condom issue. As a sidemark CBJ is totaly out of the question and one time I did have to send a Spasso girl home for wanting this (I rather watch Lucy Thai and have a wank at it).
I have no idea why most of my FL girls don't require the use of condom. Maby my pre interview, which for the great part will consist of creating good chemistry (hardly go through details as in what my expectations are, pricesettings and time) , will have something to do with this. My "interview" is more chitchat like considering the languagebarriers and ofcourse getting the girls a bit tipsy, laugh and have fun as additional important factors. This works for me and maby this is why many girls will do the deed bareback (I for sure don't force them into anything).
Many people will say that FL girls are worse than the "bargirl","gogogirl" (due to not having regular checkups, employment status etc). Many people will even say they are the same girls just met at different hours after their Bar service or GoGo service closes for the night (might be true). I believe my hunting, for the great part, is running in the semi pro P4P. Meaning, if I would trust the girls, the girls have work but do some freelancing every now and then for the extra buck and by this they will run a lower risk in getting STD than a more hardcore P4P FL girl with more customers.
A girl enjoying sex in the first place I believe will have more pleasure, as I do, going bareback. I never discuss the price upfront (as this is a turnoff for me) but I believe girls in some way trust me after working on the chemistry for while. Atleast enough so they expect not to leave emptyhanded. They for sure see me spend a lot of money out there in the clubs so thay know I have it. I don't offer them anything actually and for sure not a bigger tip. But I think I pay girls quite genrously at the end (nothing extreme though). I have shared some girls with a few fellow mongerers inside here (you know who you are) and in some cases the girls did not want to go bareback with them, even no ass play. This means nothing ofcourse but I think it has something to do with chemistry and trust. But ofcourse for people operating differently than me doing all the negotiations on scene before take out (pricesettings, length of stay, bucket list and so on) maby girls react differently? I don't know. It is hard to get exact answers as girls will act differently and if me and paul kausch met the same lady we would have different outcome. I sure do think this is an interesting matter for discussions as I think no one will have the correct answers.
Hey everybody,
Can anybody recommend a massage parlor close to any of the two Bangkok airports. Suvarnabhumi or Don Muang?
I'm going on vacation soon and just need a nice massage in between changing airplane. Arriving at 06:00 (from EU) leaving at 11:00 (national).
Looking forward to hear from you guys.
James
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1423249]Not quite sure what you mean by "Hail Mary" in this context. I think of a Hail Mary as some sort of desperation attempt that has a low likelihood of success. If this is the case, what are they hoping to gain, pregnancy or contracting a STD? I don't think so. So I may be missing your point.
I've always thought it was because the girls preferred bareback and would engage in it after they were comfortable with the guy. I'm fucking two strippers in South Florida, my current home base, on a regular basis. These girls definitely prefer bareback. They are two young "students" who claim to mainly strip and "only see a couple of client on the side." Okay, whatever. First few times we fucked covered; then once while the three of us were together one of them ripped off my condom and said,"I'm tired of this;" then she got into doggy position and starting to wave her ass from side to side. In the heat of the moment I obliged. While I was pumping away she said something like,"I love the way a big hard dick feels in my pussy." I guess she was talking about my dick, whether or not it resembles that remark. Ever since, both girls, when I'm alone with one or with both of them, go back and forth between wanting to do it covered versus bareback. I attribute the vacillation to having a definite preference for bareback but at the same time being worried about contracting an STD.
We all know some percentage of guys ride bareback, so obviously some of the SW comply. I've always wondered about the dynamics. Is it a tiny (or significant) minority of guys and girls who do it? Is the girls motivation the same as the guys, because it feels better? Or are they hoping for (expecting) a bigger tip? Have the guys offered a big tip for bareback? Is it mainly among couples who are well acquainted? Just curious.[/QUOTE]Hail mary as in getting guys hooked. Kind of like. See,"you're special, I never go bareback." (translation. This is the first time in a couple of days / today / etc.) For myself, I never pay a premium to get it, in my experience it's more of something they are trying to push to increase their value. They're looking to score too. Whether it's the short game or long game.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1423371]As I mentioned in a previous post, I've always gotten a BBBJ at Poseidon. I generally go with the higher priced fishbowl girls, but have also gotten BBBJs from sideliners. In fact I can't recall ever getting a CBJ from an MP girl, always BBBJ. The only girls who tried to pull a CBJ on me were an occassional BG.
You provide another possible explanation for why a girl would initiate bareback FS, she's trying to set herself apart from the competition. Sounds like for some reason, maybe your good looks and debonair manner, she wanted to hook you by offering you something special.[/QUOTE]It's the prime directive for a good percentage of girls in this business and women in general. They want to make their lives better.
Here we go:
First of all I want to thank all of you that have helped this BKK newbie with all of your info. I went to cherries soi 24/1 and had the pleasure of spending two hours with apple. She is not the prettiest but does have a nice body and by no means is she ugly. She is light skinned with nice boobs. We started with chit chat I wanted to make her comfortable and after a few moments she invited me to the shower. Very sensual rub and cleaned me very thoroughly.
For the first pop she gave a great BBBJ then it was missionary and for whatever reason her movement, tight pussy, and moans made me cum fast. Like within 10 minutes, which is very fast considering I had been cumming several times a day for 4 days now. She seemed to cum also but maybe she's just a great actress. After she layed me on my chest and gave me an amazing back massage. Not just a rub, but a professional massage. She used to work for a real massage parlor. If interested in that let me know. After about 15 minutes of massage, jr was feeling up to it and round 2 begins.
2nd BBBJ deep, slurps, and great eye contact. I was ready for more tight pussy. Not sure how she must go through 3-4 guys daily. Cover up and After a few minutes doggie I insert my fingers in her ass and she knows what I want. She gets the lube and to town on her ass I go. I pump away doggie then reverse cowgirl until I cum again.
We start looking at pictures, she stars recommending places to visit and we begin making out more. Then another BBBJ then cover up. Start doggie then some more anal and I finish in her mouth. So yes, she ATM. I am sure she didn't swallow but I was exhausted. Quick shower and wobble out, knees weak. She is definitely good at her job highly recommend her. She can be a but chatty so watch out for that.
[QUOTE=DanGood;1422732]I fully agree. The two are fantastic but Vodka is not so good. My dream now is to take both together, Apple because she is really sex addicted and Pok for her enthusiasm and nice body. That will be my next visit to Cherry massage.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dash Riprock;1423553]It's the prime directive for a good percentage of girls in this business and women in general. They want to make their lives better.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Dash Riprock;1423551]Hail mary as in getting guys hooked. Kind of like. See,"you're special, I never go bareback." (translation. This is the first time in a couple of days / today / etc.) For myself, I never pay a premium to get it, in my experience it's more of something they are trying to push to increase their value. They're looking to score too. Whether it's the short game or long game.[/QUOTE]Makes sense to me. Clearly, intercourse without a condom feels better for the woman as well as the man, but for an SW I think there has to be another motivation for making it available, and I think it's more available than some guys realize. The girls with the least sinister intentions are just trying to make themselves more endearing to the guy by offering him 'something special. ' The girls who are looking to really take advantage of a guy are thinking ahead and foresee an opportunity to claim a pregnancy and milk that for all its worth. Of course this would only work if the SW thinks the guy is going to stick around or she has some way of contacting him in the future. I almost always wear a condom, though I hate them, but from time to time I will seek the greater pleasure of doing it au naturel.
I once was a Boy Scout and took the motto to "be prepared" to heart. About 30 years ago I had a vasectomy and stopped worrying about pregnancies. I'm also careful not to give an SW my full name and contact information, other than the high-end escorts who require it, but I don't worry about them. Funny, about 10 years ago I was seeing a young lady who was a freebie (other than the dinners, drinks, flowers, gifts, concerts, plays, films, galas, trips and more gifts) semi-regularly, until one day she insisted I got her pregnant. Stupid woman, it was easy to call her bluff and she finally gave up. This was a "learning moment" in my gradual transition from blood sucking non-pros to SWs where the true nature of the transaction is above board and more transparent.
[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1423689]The other was a Thai girl I met online so I had to put in leg work before my trip. DIA works for freebies sometimes. I took her to lunch terminal 21 then back to htl for 2 times mid afternoon. Even offered bareback.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Skogis; 1423536]I am a big fan of going bareback and the girls I meet they tend to go through the sexual ritual without even raising the condom question (ofcourse there are some exceptions).
I have no idea why most of my FL girls don't require the use of condom. Maby my pre interview, which for the great part will consist of creating good chemistry (hardly go through details as in what my expectations are, pricesettings and time.
I believe my hunting, for the great part, is running in the semi pro P4P.
A girl enjoying sex in the first place I believe will have more pleasure, as I do, going bareback.
I don't know. It is hard to get exact answers as girls will act differently and if me and paul kausch met the same lady we would have different outcome. I sure do think this is an interesting matter for discussions as I think no one will have the correct answers.[/QUOTE]While the semipro FL are looking for money, I think they also enjoy the sex. I'd put the strippers I'm seeing now in this category. They make their living stripping and based on their sexual performance I can tell they are not hard core pros; and I can tell they really love to fuck; and if they can make a little extra money on the side, all the better. Because enjoyment is part of the equation, they prefer bareback for the same reason we do, it feels better and it's nice not to have to screw around with a condom. Bad pun.
I've never used a condom with a freebie. Off the top of my head I can only think of one who even brought it up. But that was long ago before my memory became feeble and clouded. Freebies cost too much, in time and money, to mess around with a condom. Maybe I'm lucky but I've never contracted an STD, though the freebies I've seen were very, very low risk. I'm not including the girls I've picked up at a bar for a one night stand. I didn't always use a condom with these either. It tended to depend on whether I had any at home or in my hotel room and was sober enough to think to use one. As near as I can remember it wasn't an issue with these ladies either, though they were generally at least as drunk as I was. With these I guess I was lucky. On my last trip to Bangkok I met a semipro FL whom I fucked twice. I wrote about her in one of my first posts. First time she asked me to use a condom. I complied, though I was confident I could have easily talked her out of it. Second time she didn't mention it. Maybe she assumed I would use one as I had the first time; but my hunch was she would have been okay with bareback the second time.
In a nutshell, I think bareback is readily available except from the high-end escorts. If like me you've had a vasectomy, I can't think of any risks other than STDs. Considering how much more pleasurable it is to go bareback, I can understand why some guys do it. It's always a temptation for me. I often think on my next trip I'm going to stock up on antibiotics before the trip, take a daily dose for the duration of the trip and take my chances. Then I think twice. Who knows what I'll conclude if I think third time.