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Can yall link videos or images of examples of typical you seen in parts where European decent communities are around? I assume Sao Paolo is the place.

Like, you checking the towns, is there hot ones in lot of places?

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2023242]FKK clubs require less reports or reviews. There's the WYSIWYG effect plus other guys in the clubs who are open to talk about the girls and their service, there's a kind of community around regulars and even foreigners. You just ask a guy if the girl was good or not, if she kissed or not etc.

All other P6 options are anonymous. You do not see other mongers. So there's a demand to exchange reviews and reports online.

HB.[/QUOTE]+1 Couldn't have said better. I will add that FKK sometimes requires more investment in time. Sitting and waiting in club. Striking up conversations with fellow mongers. The only way around that is to collect the WG's whatsapps and pre-schedule, but generally the protocol is to session her a few times before that.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2023271]Images are snippet of time(is it current?), not wholly a reality, but yeah, face has lots of importance, it's gamble.

Also, look at Globe's airbrushed for example, it's far away from reality. Depends on currentsy and how much the image portreys the reality.

They will try to impress with best images. Also, scamming of fake images are possible if not a reputable agency.[/QUOTE]Think OP's point was that if everyone reviewed regularly and often, than there would be reports that would warn you that the escort is using photos from a decade ago.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2023238]Personally I use an agency for the most part in Portugal, but they provide translation and booking for the ladies, not management. Most of the locals seem to prefer independents over either the brothels or an agency.
[/QUOTE]I use freelance and agencies. Freelance offer lower prices because the middleman is cut out. But agencies provide recourse and a formal way to complain. One German freelancer I've used is always too busy to pick up her phone. And she overbooks herself just like the airlines do, because she assume every third customer will no-show. So you show up at the agreed upon time, and then you play this game, where you have to call every 5 minutes until she hopefully picks up. Guess what? It is well documented on boards that she is this unreliable. But she is still in demand despite this!! Because her optics and service are worth the low price she charges, so men are willing to risk losing an entire afternoon or evening.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2023238]
Give a hard-working young lady a smart phone and an Internet ad on an established board, and once she gets a few reviews, she is making a lot of money without the need for overhead and management at a big brothel. But I guess the same thing doesn't work everywhere.[/QUOTE]The same thing does not work everywhere. There are plenty of girls who try to freelance in Germany, but the problem is they have to remain price competitive with the German paysex scene. You mention cities where freelance and small agencies have succeeded but none of those cities have paysex options quite like Frankfurt or NRW (price, quantity, quality, convenience).

Many porn stars stop coming to Germany after one or two tours. There should be no surprise why.

Don't assume that FKK girls are not as clever as the ones who put up ads on the Internet. FKK girls can take advantage of the huge marketplace that FKK creates. In FKK, they will see 500 customers per day. More potential customers means more potential targets that they can size up. They know who the 50 EUR guys are. And they know which customers are looking for love in the brothel (I. E. Who will take them out of the club and spoil them).

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2023323]+1 Couldn't have said better. I will add that FKK sometimes requires more investment in time. Sitting and waiting in club. Striking up conversations with fellow mongers. The only way around that is to collect the WG's whatsapps and pre-schedule, but generally the protocol is to session her a few times before that.[/QUOTE]Walk into a crowded room of possible choices and across the way you see one of the ugliest chicks you've ever laid eyes on with silicone tits ten years past their expiration date (one was sagging heavily, might have been a slight leakage) and you turn to your newfound ISG buddy and say 'boy that girl hit the ugly tree all the way down', he looks and goes right over and takes her to the room. You just don't know peoples tastes and preferences in person, impossible to know what they like on a review board. And you really don't know what kind of twisted shit they like to do in the rooms. I fucked this chick last night that I gave her a '4' rating in terms of looks (not the girl with the sagging silicon tits), facially she just wasn't all that attractive. But in that dark vip room where you couldn't see her face very well but the service and the nice slim young body was all that was needed. Plus she took a pounding. You just never know until you fork over a bill.

[QUOTE=Breadman;2023337]You just don't know peoples tastes and preferences in person, impossible to know what they like on a review board. And you really don't know what kind of twisted shit they like to do in the rooms.[/QUOTE]I have this problem a lot because I don't find mongers with the same optical tastes as me. Also I am more BBBJ, and less DFK oriented than most other mongers.

But that just means you have to talk to more mongers. I have only sessioned about 10-15 current Shark girls. But I more or less know which girls are generally good service for a wide range of mongers. I mean Milana Serbia, I never sessioned with her, but I know she does long rooms, and many customers seem extremely happy with her. Same for Sandra De. So they'd probably be good for 90 percent of customers.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2023294]
Leaving out Terms, how is the general scene in Sao Paolo, Brazil?

Is it similar? More of a night time gig after doing other stuff during the day?

I've heard there is more of European look girls of various background in those parts? Is that pretty significant compared to the terms?
[/QUOTE]Better pose this question to the Cane in the SP thread.

I only went to four venues in Brazil. All were thermas, three in Rio, one in SP. During the day clinicas are open, but they have fewer girls, so I preferred to sight-see.

Didn't see any girls who looked really white to me. Maybe a few were a little exotic. As white as Amor (Bu), who is part-Gypsy BTW. That is about as white as I saw. I saw one WG who resembled Janine (Sharks) facially, but if I saw her in normal light, she may have had skin tone and hair color like Penelope Cruz.

I do Believe that the only reason to use internet to get an Escort is because of the possibility to get a higher class girl who doesn't want to be so exposed in a brothel or waste her time because she has other commitments like school or other work.

But I can also understand that approach in Barcelona because their puticlubs / night brothels are expensive and crappy. I love Vive and Scandalo, taking a drink listening to the Music, watching, chatting and touching the Girls. That's a very big part of the charm for me, without that I would consider staying home.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2023407]I do Believe that the only reason to use internet to get an Escort is because of the possibility to get a higher class girl who doesn't want to be so exposed in a brothel or waste her time because she has other commitments like school or other work.

But I can also understand that approach in Barcelona because their puticlubs / night brothels are expensive and crappy. I love Vive and Scandalo, taking a drink listening to the Music, watching, chatting and touching the Girls. That's a very big part of the charm for me, without that I would consider staying home.[/QUOTE]Barcelona really has two types of brothels. The boutique brothels like Devorah Suites, Farell X, capriciVicbcn and Villaroel that generally encourage or require appointments but provide GFE and BBBJ (often CIM) automatically, with only very minor upsells for Greek, and the bigger brothels like Felinas and la Vien de Rose (I think I butchered the name but I am slightly drunk) where it is much harder to get full GFE unless you happen to pick the right girl.

One thing I like about smaller places in general, as well as what I like about incall with independents and outcall to my hotel with some agencies is that I like the intimacy and privacy of a nice room where I can possibly have or bring some favorite sex toys to make the most of the hour. As always, different strokes for different folks, but that obviously is harder to achieve at an FKK.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2023294]Leaving out Terms, how is the general scene in Sao Paolo, Brazil?

Is it similar? More of a night time gig after doing other stuff during the day?

I've heard there is more of European look girls of various background in those parts? Is that pretty significant compared to the terms?

Also, what is the pricing, and what is included in a typical session? Extras (as considered in De) typically provided in the agreed price? Is is more like Bazar, negotiate prices? Is there services provided commonly on a session to be called "standard?" Do you take girls back to the hotel or are rooms provided in the venues at Sao Paolo?[/QUOTE]Dude,

Weeks ago I sent you by PM a link to my report "Sampling Sampa". You obviously haven't read it. It will tell you tons about the scene in Sao Paulo. I also did another trip report several years ago entitled "The Cane's Latest, Greatest Rio Adventures". That report is still good because it's full of pictures of the girls. Plus, I and others have posted tons and tons of other photos. If you're serious about going to Brazil, please RTFF. All the information you need is already on this site in the relevant sections, and has been provided I don't know how many times! And I say again to you for the last time. There are plenty of European-looking girls in Brazil! Both in Sao Paulo and Rio and beyond, but particularly in the south. In fact, my favorite from my last trip was a gorgeous blue-eyed, blonde of German descent. I described my encounter with her in my report entitled "Sampling Sampa". You keep asking the same questions about Brazil over and over again, and yet, you don't seize upon the information that is openly available to you. RTFF man if you're serious!

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2023303]I don't discuss service before going to the room.

HB.[/QUOTE]Me too, but in room, I tell her that, OK it is such and such time now on my watch and I would go one hour or even more from now if the session is good, but if it is bad I got to cut it at 30 minutes. Then I discuss the detail of the session.

Either way, some girls provide good service, some just don't, but in general I am happy.

Sometimes, I have difficulty recalling how some of the girls I fucked, it comes, but it takes me awhile.

But on the other hand, why is it I remember so clearly how bar maids at FKK looks like LOL.

I'm surprised Roms get such a bad rap here, without them most of the FKKs would shut down LOL.

They usually provide good service and most are good looking IMO, just as many sharks from other countries.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2022953]I got blonde half swedish and german once in artemis.[/QUOTE]Well, if it floats your boat, Liz (sharks and former Artemis / GT) is 1/4 Swedish.

Jnpr: let's just agree to disagree. And I think the economic discussion got a bit derailed there from my initial connection to liberal views (especially when you disconnect the marketing part and the high tech stock valuation) which is what I know the most about. Perhaps you focus more on other economic terms which I personally find irrelevant in this discussion. So I'm putting a cover on that discussion.

When it comes to FKK or online ads, you do make some of the best arguments Jnpr.

I have to add one think mentioned here regarding online reviews. In many cases it is a pimp, or even the girls themselves writing them. Thus I never read them, or at least I analyze carefully how they are written and look into the history of the poster. It is not often i go for locally advertised internet girls, but I do see slightly less photoshops now and more accurate pictures, as well as a notch higher quality on the girls than in the past (could be just here). Still too many of the girls swear to hiding their faces, and I think that will continue. Thus I don't feel confident about it. Many girls also have 3+ ads on the same sites where 2+ are 100 copies of a different girl somewhere in Europe. Even natural looking pics can be fake. But handwritten signs added on the photos can fix that issue. Still I do much prefer the relaxed FKK atmosphere to walking on the street looking for some apartment girl. The scenery is a huge mood boost for me, maybe that's why I don't look too much into some of the more run down nrw clubs also.

The cost for the girls topic is also relevant here. But do note that even if the girl saves entrance money when working from apartments, the rent is higher when she uses airbnb (I see less and less hotel booked girls and more and more airbnb) as opposed to staying at an FKK or renting a flat in one city near the FKK. Also, most apartment girls travel more, so the travelling costs are high. And the need for safety from a pimp goes up radically when working alone from an apartment (and pimps are expensive). In most countries at least. Where I live
Most apartment tutes are extremely selective on nationalism and ethnic background based on safety reasons also and when I say extremely, that's an understatement. Specially among the Russian apartment girls.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2023545]In fact, my favorite from my last trip was a gorgeous blue-eyed, blonde of German descent. I described my encounter with her in my report entitled "Sampling Sampa". You keep asking the same questions about Brazil over and over again, and yet, you don't seize upon the information that is openly available to you. RTFF man if you're serious![/QUOTE]Now, this is insane. The Romanian girls working in German FKK Sauna clubs look more like Latinos than Europeans! Many of them can get a pass for being Brazilians.

So, basically, I just find out I'm a fool to travel to Germany to meet lots of Latinos-look-alike, while girls in Brazil are actually more European-look-alike.

Thanks for the information shared, Cane.

I just started RTFF about Brazil lately. LOL.