Towards a Better Solution to Bait and Switch
[quote=theystolemyname; 1150410]no, i will not accept that's just the way it is. that's retarded. i presented 4 very reasonable alternatives to your solution of just accepting that everyone is going to post fake pics, and so girls should keep posting fake pics anyway. which is awful. these are very easy solutions for providers. i'll reiterate.
1. post real pics. chances are, your friends aren't going to see you anyway. if they do, they might not recognize you. if you do, then. you're a working girl. get over it.
if you don't want your identity revealed online. then all of these solutions would work just fine:
2. don't post pics at all. this at least is being honest. post a description. you won't have any unhappy customers this way. you might get fewer calls but you'll avoid wasting your own time going to customers and getting turned away and you'll avoid exposing yourself to the potential for violence from assholes who respond that way to getting ripped off.
3. post pics with a mask, or obscured or blurred face. this is also perfectly honest and acceptable. the number of calls you get will only be slightly less, and at least your customers will know what your body looks like. for many of them, that's enough.
4. if you absolutely must, fine, post fake pics. i'll still think you're a horrible person, but at least, at the very least, either a) state in your ad that the pics are only meant to be an approximation not the real thing, or be) at least, when i ask you on the phone "are your pics real?" you answer: "no! but they are close" or something like that. don't lie. this is not an essential part of protecting your identity. the two things have nothing to do with one another.
now for mongers, there are a few solutions to this when they find out that everyone is posting fake pics. go to a club where you can see what you are getting in person. use only reputable agencies that use real pics. start going to other countries where the ethic is different. or take your chances and turn away the girls who are liars. when you have resources, like this website, at your disposal then one of the best things you could do is find out from each other which girls are real, which sites are legit, which agencies use real pics, etc. all of these are better solutions than just accepting it's the way it is.
i'm not interested in reforming the escort industry in kiev. i'm interested in having a good time, and as i said in my post, i won't if i'm being conned. nothing i said was wrong-headed or out of line and i never once said anything to the effect that women who want to protect their identity should not be able to. i just said they should stop lying about it. if you ask them if the pics are real and they lie and say they are, that's obviously not about protecting their identity and all about false advertising. i don't have to feel any sympathy for those girls. [/quote]you may not have realized, but i could care less about the girls who post fake pics and also have no sympathy for them when they do this. what i did care about is you, as a fellow hobbyist wasting your time, emotions and effort on trying to move the world to a different axis, instead of having more fun. i too have wrestled internally with the "bait and switch" fake picture situation in kiev and sought / suggested solutions (look up my prior posts if your interested).
i can see from your post that you are an analytical person and an organized thinker. surely you can realize that none of the solutions you offered has the slightest potential of changing the behavior of the agencies in kiev. these agencies are only interested in what they think will generate the most calls they can receive and they are counting on the libido of the horny customer to whom they send their girls to cause the customer to go forward despite the difference in appearance of the girl from the fake pic.
i'm sure you realize that it is the truth that many horny men will say to themselves "true she isn't the beauty i saw in the fake pics, but let me see, my balls are swinging low, i am backed up and need to shoot this load somewhere, let me take a look at the female standing in front of me and see if can feel that churning and yearning in my loins for her. and then his sperm start sending his brain messages like,"oh yeah, look at the hot lines on her sexy ass, look at the way those jeans fit her taught sexy little pussy area, wow, she does it for me." meanwhile commands start issuing forth from command," now hear this! all hands, rig for depth charges!" and then chief petty officer they stole my name comes running into the bridge and says,"but wait captain! what about the new prime directive that says we should just send the girls away for fake pic usage?" to which captain sperm says,"the hell with that man, can't you see i have a mess on my hands here that needs handlin'. now get those tor****es ready for firing!"
insofar as your 4 suggestions are directed at the villainous fake pic escort agencies, who have absolutely no interest in what you have to say or recommend to them, these suggestions can not accomplish anything.
the only way to influence an economic entity selling a product is to interfere with their profits. but this assumes the escort agencies function based on the free market logic in the capitalist system, which i don't believe is the case with eastern europe mentalities. so just because something seems to be better for business doesn't mean that it will be accepted. if you are hoping to organize a boycott among your fellow mongers, i do not believe captain sperm or any of his buddies will rise above their personal emergencies when the time comes and it is an unenforceable boycott.
the only way to change things by influencing profits that i could think of is to build an independent monger sponsored escort website that collects info on who is real, identifies and reviews real escorts and provides them with free advertising as a service to the monger community. since access to the website is restricted to qualified consumers who are mongers and is not open to internet, privacy is assured and maybe offering your suggestion of the option of blurred face ads will address any remaining privacy concerns. with such direction toward true pussy, even captain sperm will direct his energies to finding his most desirable targets, and the effect will be a massive shift of actual business to the real pic providers and away from the fake agencies. but creating such a website and operating it requires technical knowledge and funding. there has been no reaction since i wrote this suggestion, indicating there is no interest or ability amongst us here on the thread to take up this idea. ergo, things are going to remain as they are, a sad but true reality. somy advice is, don't waste your time on this crusade anymore.
lj
The fellowship continues.
Just for uprising & the brotherhoon =) I've turned away 3 uggs so far.
If unacceptable walks up to the door, then I plan to be fair & practical.
Especially from some rip off wait & switch pimps.
I asked to see a woman the other night. Instead godzilla showed up!
No shit GoDzIlLA!
Nice enough personality. But I say hey lady, this isn't you is it? Huh. Is it you.
Yes agrees. Obviously wasnt the girl.
So I phone the agent & say I want the lady in the picture Hello!
She's busy for 2 hours. Okay well pickup your friend.
You got to pay taxi. Long story short no.
However I felt a little compassion, while we waited I made us a coffee before her pickup.
& out of the goldness of my heart I gave her 50grn for she was talking about she has to pay the taxi.
Blah blah (bullshit)
First I saif she gets nothing complain to your boss for obvious reason if its true what you say.
Anyway I give 50grn next thing she starts asking for another 50grn. 50 here & 50 back.
Do a good deed fellas. & what do you get in return.
Give a hand they want the arm.
Anyway I go to bed just before I fall asleep who pitches up? The girl on the photo.
Ring ring, knock knock. So within the 20 mins after big bird left, the proper girl appears.
Like an practicing ametur stripper as well, so with a pretty dam good blowjob & some dancing,
Dim lights & music.
It was good enough to satisfy my monger-ness for the night.
She was like an athlete giving me the blow job! Seriously. Like a disco blow job.
It was good I had two.
"Three's Company" at Last
This fantasy was implanted in my mind ever since the days long ago that I used to watch the situation comedy "Three's Company" on TV (don't know if this program ever made it outside the USA to European countries). It was about a guy living with two hot girls. In those days (the 70's?) he had to lie to the landlord of the building and claim to be gay in order to be permitted to live openly with the two pretty girls, and since he was really a girl-hound this made for some great comedy. Then I grew up, married and divorced, and eventually became a monger, in the back of my mind looking for the opportunity for the perfect three-some. Don't misunderstand, I have been with two girls before a number of times, but it had always been lacking in perfection, or worse. I came to the conclusion early on that for it to be really great the two girls also have to be into each other. Not full lesbians, because then I don't have a chance, but bisexual and attracted to each other. My opportunity finally came last night with two girls from Rio strip club.
The first girl was a brunette who I met last year at Rio with one of the sexiest rock hard bodies you will ever see in stripper-land, and a pretty face with eyes and a smile that exude sweetness. And she does have a soft and sweet personality, and the most marvelous abdominal musculature that I've seen convulse in orgasm after I deliver to her some awesome oral sex, which I have come to be very skilled at. She reciprocates with genuine good will, which is the only way to really enjoy a blow job for me. I don't appreciate a mere skillful treatment as much, if it is too clinical and impersonal. I like the girl to love my dick and show it. I was so inspired in my first session with her that I managed to have sex with her in various positions for the full three hours, getting real value for the $300 fee. I saw her again this year in February, and the sessions were great. She then told me that she also liked girls and confessed to already having sex with two other Rio girls already. I asked her to show me who, and when she did, I almost came in my pants. The 2nd girl was an elegant princess of a girl, with long thick dirty blond hair, a perfect body and model pretty face. She called this 2nd girl over to our table, and I fell in love with the 2nd girl too. The plan was agreed to and we would be together as a 3some when I was back in Kiev the next weekend.
The next weekend came, but on the appointed night, the 1st girl didn't show at Rio club, so I took the blond princess and did a right proper job on her that night. Now I had a strong sexual connection with blondy too. I saw her again for a great session two weeks ago, and basically had a good chermistry with both girls independently. This was why I had high hopes for this three-some, and they were not misplaced. Last night was awesome. A fellow ISG member who PM'd me and met me at Rio club last night can vouch for the fact that I am not exaggerating about how hot and pretty these two girls were. He made a fine selection too, and I hope she treated him well. But back to my fantasy.
I seated the blond princess naked on the couch and had the brunette lie back with her head in the lap of blondy, as I proceeded to deliver the best oral I could (which the girls all tell me is pretty damn good) to the brunette from a kneeling position alongside the couch. Now here is what was exciting and a major turn on for me: the effect on my blond princess of what I was doing to her friend laying in her lap, the brunette's heavy breathing, moaning, gasping, shuddering, crying out, her convulsing in a mind bending orgasm was really turning blondy on big time, and the sexual excitement of the two of them had the same effect on me.
To be continued. I am expecting the awesome Inna from vodkaescort any minute now.
LJ