Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2427853] So when you walk within the Neon lights everything look amazing and attractive but when I was trying to actually getting a girl thing become a bit more complex. I would say not worth for most guys to come here for mongering unless you are PP expert, But the overall package is a bit not feel quite comfortable. So if you ready to monger in this garbage everywhere dirty slum city and you have specific PP mongering experience then yes girls look much better and younger then Thailand.[/QUOTE]A study in comparative mongering. Great. I like your description of PP. Lowest level of human cooperation other than India I have witnessed. Yet there are very good people there, smart, hard working and studying. And so little good advice, capital, student support, good mentoring. As far as effort is concerned, I somehow pulled off sterling mongering experiences anyway. Give PP a chance, especially if you already know Thai.

I am not sure what 5555 means. "Hahaha" (laughter) or "fake! Like the Chicago Police Dep'ts Number 5 HQ phone number. Vladimir Nabakov is a literary great. We share the same mother tongue. His musings are great as are the lyrics of 'The Doors' and 'Sting's' new wave ballad 'Don't stand so close to me'. Great artists. Real men. No apologies. Live your thoughts freely. In real life, keep it legal. Makes no sense whatsoever to do silly irresponsible things. Sex is all in your head anyway, from visual perception to processing to the final protein jolt. I beat the 8 y Cambo experience one of our mates sports handily.

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2427853] First Pattaya bar girls are mostly 50 year and older but also here under a close inspection only here and there a few are young and pretty but way better then Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Which bars did you go to in Pattaya? I have lived in Pattaya for over 4 years now and I have NEVER sat in a bar with girls "mostly 50 year and older". Why would I when there are so many options around. Been in 100's of bars with girls in their 20's. Looking for some intel in case I have a visitor looking for a GMILF.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2428595]Which bars did you go to in Pattaya? I have lived in Pattaya for over 4 years now and I have NEVER sat in a bar with girls "mostly 50 year and older". Why would I when there are so many options around. Been in 100's of bars with girls in their 20's. Looking for some intel in case I have a visitor looking for a GMILF.[/QUOTE]Pattaya is dead for mongering.

I also live there for 4 years now.

I assume I am one of the 2. You say "I beat the 8 why Cambo experience one of our mates sports handily. " You have lived in Cambodia for more than 8 years? Seriously? From what you have posted I have my doubts.

SE.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2428643]I assume I am one of the 2. You say "I beat the 8 why Cambo experience one of our mates sports handily. " You have lived in Cambodia for more than 8 years? Seriously? From what you have posted I have my doubts.

SE.[/QUOTE]Well, you are, but you chose that fate yourself. I never boast. I respect your 8 years of experience. I respect your angle on things. My comment was meant to counter your negativity. Remember that the US Cambodia mission in PP only opened in 1994, well into my professional adulthood. Other countries had relations and exchange much earlier than that, and I was part of that. And no, I have not lived there for 8 years lately. But my experiences go much longer back than yours. Who cares. Keep posting your experiences. Thanks.

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2428614]Pattaya is dead for mongering.

I also live there for 4 years now.[/QUOTE]With respect, the notion that Pattaya is "dead" for mongering is silly. Subject to horrible decline generally due to COVID-19 (affecting a lot of Asia mongering) whilst Pattaya is not my favourite mongering destination it is still very active, has a lot of good options even outside of Soi 6 and WS and literally hundreds of pool bars etc with many good options.

For me, I actually preferred the bars in PP but the variety in Pattaya was excellent with 4 good soapies, BDSM clubs (2) and obviously a lot of MPs. Ditto on the MPs for PP and very cheap but in reality for most traveller mongers in PP its the bars in 30.18 and 36 and maybe a trip to NagaWorld for the girls who hang out. But to say Pattaya is dead is just not correct.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2430291]With respect, the notion that Pattaya is "dead" for mongering is silly. Subject to horrible decline generally due to COVID-19 (affecting a lot of Asia mongering) whilst Pattaya is not my favourite mongering destination it is still very active, has a lot of good options even outside of Soi 6 and WS and literally hundreds of pool bars etc with many good options.

For me, I actually preferred the bars in PP but the variety in Pattaya was excellent with 4 good soapies, BDSM clubs (2) and obviously a lot of MPs. Ditto on the MPs for PP and very cheap but in reality for most traveller mongers in PP its the bars in 30.18 and 36 and maybe a trip to NagaWorld for the girls who hang out. But to say Pattaya is dead is just not correct.[/QUOTE]Possibly you are talking is absolute terms whereas the other poster was talking in relative terms so if I was used to paying 1000 b for 18-22 yrs old who are considered by the majority to be 7-8's and now those types are only available for 3000 b and the girls in the 1000-1500 b range are fat 40 yr olds that only men who are happy to bottom feed would consider taking, then Pattaya could be said to be 'dead" as there is nothing I would consider taking.

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2428614]Pattaya is dead for mongering.

I also live there for 4 years now.[/QUOTE]The last 4 posts on the Phnom Penh stream have been about Pattaya with very little relevance to Cambodia.

Why don't you take this debate across to the other streams?

I will have several trips to Phnom Penh this year and I am interested in learning more about experiences of mongers in Sts 136,130, Nagaworld (Darlin Darlin) and other points of interest. At least PFI made general reference to PP in his post.

I don't care about the merits or otherwise of Pattaya cluttering up this stream.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2430399]The last 4 posts on the Phnom Penh stream have been about Pattaya with very little relevance to Cambodia.

Why don't you take this debate across to the other streams?

I will have several trips to Phnom Penh this year and I am interested in learning more about experiences of mongers in Sts 136,130, Nagaworld (Darlin Darlin) and other points of interest. At least PFI made general reference to PP in his post.

I don't care about the merits or otherwise of Pattaya cluttering up this stream.[/QUOTE]I agree with you, the others should go to the Thailand threads.

As for Phenom Penh, it's been about 4 years since I've been there and I have never been to streets 130 or 136, but have been given propositions by girls hanging outside of the Raffles Hotel, which is where I stayed. There is a university across from Raffles, and a grass strip between them. When I walked back to the hotel from a restaurant, twice I had offered by girls hanging out in the grass strip. This was at night and I didn't want to partake since it didn't seem safe with these, but if you like picking up college girls during the daytime, the university is across the street from the hotel.

I never stayed at the hotel at Nagaworld since it was being built at the time, but did go to the casino just to see what was there. It caters to Chinese tourists, so you might get lucky finding girls there, but I would think they are looking mostly for Chinese tourists. I had luck, too much luck, at the restaurants and bars along the river north of the Hotel Cambodia and just one block in. There were lots of freelancers available and they would gravitate to the tourists, so it wouldn't be too difficult to find one to your liking. Of course, my experience was 4-5 years ago, so things might have changed since then.

I just wanted to add that my friends took me to a bunch of small bars on Str 104 near the river and it was in these small bars that the girls would be all over you. I don't know if the govt has cleaned up the riverfront area, but if they had, the action would have been moved somewhere else. Hopefuly, another member can give more up to date information.

I learned one of the best Italian restaurants in S. E. Asia is no longer open. In Phenon Penh, across the street from the Stone Grill by the river was the KFC. Next door to the KFC was a small restaurant called Limon Cello, opened by an Italian chef and his Cambodian wife. They had the best pizza in S. E. Asia. It wasn't the American style pizza, but Italian pizza like what you would find in Rome. They also had great salads. Oh well.

[QUOTE=ShiftTab;2430421]I just wanted to add that my friends took me to a bunch of small bars on Str 104 near the river and it was in these small bars that the girls would be all over you. I don't know if the govt has cleaned up the riverfront area, but if they had, the action would have been moved somewhere else. Hopefuly, another member can give more up to date information.

I learned one of the best Italian restaurants in S. E. Asia is no longer open. In Phenon Penh, across the street from the Stone Grill by the river was the KFC. Next door to the KFC was a small restaurant called Limon Cello, opened by an Italian chef and his Cambodian wife. They had the best pizza in S. E. Asia. It wasn't the American style pizza, but Italian pizza like what you would find in Rome. They also had great salads. Oh well.[/QUOTE]Limoncello is still open and they do indeed have very good pizzas. It's on Street 264 at the moment. Regarding action along riverfront, do you mean SW's and stuff?

[QUOTE=ShiftTab;2430421]I just wanted to add that my friends took me to a bunch of small bars on Str 104 near the river and it was in these small bars that the girls would be all over you. I don't know if the govt has cleaned up the riverfront area, but if they had, the action would have been moved somewhere else. Hopefuly, another member can give more up to date information.

It wasn't the American style pizza, but Italian pizza like what you would find in Rome. They also had great salads. Oh well.[/QUOTE]Street 104 is next to the Night Market. I haven't seen much activity around there because it's just 2 streets away from the full-on entertainment areas of St 130 to St 136 where most of the action takes place.

I spent a short time in "Xanadu bar" (good line -up) and had some fun in "Why Not" bar too with some very friendly hostesses. I had a lot of work commitments so my time was restricted but next visit in late-March I will have more time.

The area know as BKK around the National Monument (where I stayed) has a wide array of specialty restaurants, many on or near St 51 (Pasteur).

Terrazzo was especially memorable (st 282 off St 51) for authentic Italian. Another great Italian is Il Forno on St 302 (betw St 51 and Norodom). Neither are cheap but good value compared to Philippines prices.

There's a new Aussie-run steak house called Pacow opened up on St 294 (see attached). Angus beef direct from Roma, Queensland. Very friendly Aussie owner Kim. Very hands-on and training his staff very effectively. Great wines too.

More updates to follow.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2430399]I will have several trips to Phnom Penh this year and I am interested in learning more about experiences of mongers in Sts 136,130, Nagaworld (Darlin Darlin) and other points of interest. At least PFI made general reference to PP in his post.[/QUOTE]Might sound like I am bragging but do give my posts in this thread a read. I have done both detailed reports and summaries of the mongering scene in PP. Quite a few have found it helpful.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2430835]The area know as BKK around the National Monument (where I stayed) has a wide array of specialty restaurants, many on or near St 51 (Pasteur).

Terrazzo was especially memorable (st 282 off St 51) for authentic Italian. Another great Italian is Il Forno on St 302 (betw St 51 and Norodom). Neither are cheap but good value compared to Philippines prices.

There's a new Aussie-run steak house called Pacow opened up on St 294 (see attached). Angus beef direct from Roma, Queensland. Very friendly Aussie owner Kim. Very hands-on and training his staff very effectively. Great wines too.[/QUOTE]Excellent intel. I might be there end of next week if things go my way. I will definitely try Pacow.