Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1125121]The bars are flowing with girls, and they are asking 2500-3000 pesos average. So when you take them they all say "no leche poppi, I tired." The best girls I find are the haitians. Fuck the dominican girls and their lazy asses![/QUOTE]I am neither in the "nothing has changed" (or even "Sosúa is better than ever") faction nor in the "sky has fallen in" faction. I think the truth is somewhere between. And my preference for haitianas is well documented.

But I think your post does suggest one thing. Most of the chicas easily accessible in Sosúa now are hard-core professionals, hence the prices they are quoting. For years I have never found it necessary to pay more than 1500 ST or 2500 TLN (and usually less, though I would make it up to the quoted amounts if the service was 100%). Now I think that is harder to do without a cell-phone full of contacts.

[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros; 1125307]Oakie. I have a similar relation in Rio de Janeiro. 10 years ago I met a student which was working as a semi-pro to ear money to survive. After she finished her training as a dentist she started to work in a clinic. But our relation survived all this time and I see her 5. 6 times a year when I am in Rio. I usually stay with her (if I am not busy somewhere else) and it is a wonderful and trusted friendship. She knows I have also other relationas and she had other relations on and off. But when I am in Rio she is there only for me. Strange? Yes. But we have no intention to stop this.

During the first two years I helped her out with some small payments (small for me at least) but later she was never asking again. We go out together. I pick up the restaurant bill, but I do not have to rent a car, I take hers, I do not have to rent an apartment etc.

For sure in life you meet Piranhas and also decent ladies. I was obviously lucky.

Keep on going and have a look what life has in store for you.

Carlos Primeros[/QUOTE]Now this relationship I understand, but you are wrong in saying it is similar to Oakie's. For one thing you are not sending her money regularly when you are not there. Secondly you are under no illusions she is not fucking other people when you are not around. And third, yours is an educated woman with a profession who can live comfortably without resorting to prostitution whereas Oakie's chica was a working girl when he met her. Totally different scenario.

CP. I said "similar relation". But with all your remarks you are right.

Carlos Primeros

[QUOTE=Oakie;1125297]Reliability, trust, no lies or excuses. I like to include guys in our circle of friends as well as women, and I don't want her flirting with guys that want to F*k her. When she's with me, she mine and its always naturally understood by everybody. If she did get caught up with anybody else, I'd be happy to walk away and wish her well, and thank god for those two years.[/QUOTE]I used to be in the camp of "Hey, maybe it COULD work!" and you are showing that maybe it could. But as for me, after reading so many horror stories (like guys refinancing their homes to send money to women) and hearing about them first hand from talking to different folks, I am now convinced that the only way something like this would work (for me) is if I actually lived there to better verify "reliability, trust, no lies or excuses."

I think you mentioned in one of your (very earlier) post that you do pretty well financially. Have you ever thought of going the Sir Charles Pooter route and just packing up and moving there? (we Knight thee Sir Charles Pooter because anyone that is able to retire and die in paradise surrounded by an endless supply of beautiful women is worthy of Knighthood as that is an amazing feat (to most of us young'ins anyway, LOL) I'm sure if you did make that decision you'd sleep better at night (literally). And guess what? If you and the chica don't end up working out, there no need to book a flight and hotel anymore! Also, get youself a Hummer H2. I see them in Sosua all the time. You need them for the roads out there, LOL.

My friends that live there are 0 for 8 on girfriends cheating on them most don't even know-

Its your life and money do what you want-

But if you want to find out about her post her pic and find out what we know about her.

[QUOTE=Coupe66; 1124834]Anyway, I have to say that I have never had such a fantatic 'first date' with a girl in my life, we got on like a house on fire, she spoke some English with the cutest accent, and we talked for almost 4 hours with never a mention of money, going back to my hotel or whatever. We had some incredible chemistry. She eventually left with her cousin at around 2 am, I had of course got her contact details.

She texted back saying she did not believe I was alone, which kind of annoyed me because I was alone and had been totally honest with her the night before, ie had told her how many women I had been with here, but was looking for a serious girlfriend, and was not married etc. All of which were true.

Anyway, I was slightly nervous meeting her, as you would meeting any girl on a second date after such a fantastic first date. However, when I met her, it was like meeting another girl, she was totally different from our first meeting, pretty distant, indifferent and casual, she said things to me like all the guys here say they adore a girl just to get her into bed, and then go home and forget about them, which again really annoyed me because like you may have guessed I really liked this girl! [/QUOTE]Whether you think a chick in DR is pro or non-pro always try to fuck them the first time. As you have seen there may not be a next time. Remember, any woman anywhere always knows when she first meets a guy whether she will fuck him or not. DR is one of those places where you must go all in. You have nothing to lose. Every (read 100%) non-pro I have met there I have fucked them the first date / meeting.

You fucked up by telling the truth. Never tell the truth. A taxi driver in Guyana once told me to lie my ass off. He said none of these women want to hear the truth no matter how much they say they do. The truth is boring. You have to make yourself and your situation stand out from other people so you don't get the,"Every guy, etc. Etc." from them.

You are free to confess your likeness for her as much as you want AFTER you fuck her.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1125313]So you send a cheque off every month to the brewers even though you may be in the States and not drinking their product? I don't think so.

Do you send a cheque to your insurance company? Do you make a claim every month?

I'm down there all the time.

This is nothing whatever to do with capitalism. Prostitution and scams have been around for thousands of years before capitalism evolved. [/QUOTE]It's called pay for play, my friend, and I'm suprised you don't quite get it yet!

It is pure capitalism.

She gives me what I need, I give her what she needs.

Whe are both happy with that.

So, learned fellow, where's the scam?

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1125325]My friends that live there are 0 for 8 on girfriends cheating on them most don't even know-

Its your life and money do what you want-

But if you want to find out about her post her pic and find out what we know about her. [/QUOTE]Does this also apply to the wait staff at BB? I have had dinner with one a couple of times and SEEMED genuine

[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros; 1125307]Oakie. I have a similar relation in Rio de Janeiro. 10 years ago I met a student which was working as a semi-pro to ear money to survive. After she finished her training as a dentist she started to work in a clinic. But our relation survived all this time and I see her 5. 6 times a year when I am in Rio. I usually stay with her (if I am not busy somewhere else) and it is a wonderful and trusted friendship. She knows I have also other relationas and she had other relations on and off. But when I am in Rio she is there only for me. Strange? Yes. But we have no intention to stop this.

During the first two years I helped her out with some small payments (small for me at least) but later she was never asking again. We go out together. I pick up the restaurant bill, but I do not have to rent a car, I take hers, I do not have to rent an apartment etc.

For sure in life you meet Piranhas and also decent ladies. I was obviously lucky.

Keep on going and have a look what life has in store for you.

Carlos Primeros[/QUOTE]Hey, I hope coupe66 reads this!

But I'm sure your "luck" involved a great deal of discernment and perception.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1125324]I think you mentioned in one of your (very earlier) post that you do pretty well financially. Have you ever thought of going the Sir Charles Pooter route and just packing up and moving there? (we Knight thee Sir Charles Pooter because anyone that is able to retire and die in paradise surrounded by an endless supply of beautiful women is worthy of Knighthood as that is an amazing feat (to most of us young'ins anyway, LOL) I'm sure if you did make that decision you'd sleep better at night (literally). And guess what? If you and the chica don't end up working out, there no need to book a flight and hotel anymore! Also, get youself a Hummer H2. I see them in Sosua all the time. You need them for the roads out there, LOL.[/QUOTE]I sleep great now and I take it one month at a time.

I have absolutely no expectations or investment in the future of this, except for the next trip. I get my money's worth in the here and now. I don't expect her to be "faithful", I'm just telling you guys what she shows me.

I feel I'm getting added value for the money I spend.

As for moving there, I don't like the heat and the lack of our North American conveniences that we take for granted up here.

As far as I can see, the smart ones want to move from there, not the other way around.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1125325]My friends that live there are 0 for 8 on girfriends cheating on them most don't even know-

Its your life and money do what you want- But if you want to find out about her post her pic and find out what we know about her. [/QUOTE]I like that! I've been tempted, I must say, especially to get Coolie's take LOL.

But as long as we have the mutual thing going I'm going to treat her the way I want to be treated, with respect.

When it goes to shit, which won't be long, according to some here, I'll post pics.

But maybe I'll post a couple teasers, anyway.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1125362]Whether you think a chick in DR is pro or non-pro always try to fuck them the first time. As you have seen there may not be a next time. Remember, any woman anywhere always knows when she first meets a guy whether she will fuck him or not. DR is one of those places where you must go all in. You have nothing to lose. Every (read 100%) non-pro I have met there I have fucked them the first date / meeting.

You fucked up by telling the truth. Never tell the truth. A taxi driver in Guyana once told me to lie my ass off. He said none of these women want to hear the truth no matter how much they say they do. The truth is boring. You have to make yourself and your situation stand out from other people so you don't get the,"Every guy, etc. Etc." from them.

You are free to confess your likeness for her as much as you want AFTER you fuck her. [/QUOTE]Me E, your know you are one of my mentors with lifes experiences, but I have to disagree here. If you bat 100% with non pros on the first date you are the greatest player of all time or either they arent non pros. Most NP I've met try to seperate themselves from the average puta. They bring a family member to the first date, meet in public places, don't kiss and hold hands, won't come to your hotel and usually take the first meeting to check you out. My game is NOT to fuck them on the first date to act as if I'm not the average mongerer. Also in the DR there is always a next time to get that pussy, unless she is in jail or dies.

Lets define the definition of a Non Pro. If a girl has a job, is in school, doesn't hang in Sosua or at bars, spends all her spare time with family, is this a non pro? Even though she has a broke ass Dominican dude with 6 kids fucking her when he wants, or a Canadian that fucks her once a year but sends her tuition money. We define Non Pro as not wanting money for sex, but they fuck for free and and covertly accept gifts (money) from gringos. I think Non pros are overated and phony, give me a trick anyday that says"I will fuck you good but I want money".

The only true non pros to me are the ones who don't fuck anybody until that major"somebody" puts in same major time (2 months). A trick who fucks you quickly and doesn't ask for deniro because she likes you, is an undercover Puta.

[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros; 1125307]Oakie. I have a similar relation in Rio de Janeiro. 10 years ago I met a student which was working as a semi-pro to ear money to survive. After she finished her training as a dentist she started to work in a clinic. But our relation survived all this time and I see her 5. 6 times a year when I am in Rio. I usually stay with her (if I am not busy somewhere else) and it is a wonderful and trusted friendship. She knows I have also other relationas and she had other relations on and off. But when I am in Rio she is there only for me. Strange? Yes. But we have no intention to stop this.

During the first two years I helped her out with some small payments (small for me at least) but later she was never asking again. We go out together. I pick up the restaurant bill, but I do not have to rent a car, I take hers, I do not have to rent an apartment etc.

For sure in life you meet Piranhas and also decent ladies. I was obviously lucky.

Keep on going and have a look what life has in store for you.

Carlos Primeros[/QUOTE]Sir, What you have found with the dentist is what most true Mongers look for, but few find.

I think it is 95% luck and the other 5% comes with great care and good judgement. I salute your 5% ability.

Lots of lively discussion here set off by Coupe66. Man, that girl is bringing out the boy in more than one guy here.

First: let me say I just saw the movie someone suggested: "Same Same but Different". Nice movie very applicable to Coupe66. (Coupe66 you got to see the movie as he suggested).

Second: by dating / flirting with the girl in question there is nothing to lose. If you end of spending $100 or so on her to see where this heads no problem. Believe me you will remember the emotions for years and forget the mindless sex. If there is passion and a chance of love. Go for it.

Third: Do not fall in love to quickly. Watch her, be cautious. Be friendly not crazy. She deserves your respect (maybe) but keep yours too. If all goes well you will have a symbiotic relationship for minimal dollars or fall in love (mostly not). If not you can walk away with a great story.

[QUOTE=Jfregedie; 1125298]Enjoy the pictures. Gucci girl and friends can be found directly across from el flow and Latinos at that open bar / restaurant.

THe hard puta I see usually on the corner of the baseball field down from new garden. [/QUOTE]Where can you find the "ice lafox" chica on the left? :P