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[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2947546] I can tell you, that in any major city pretty much anywhere in the world, you (by you I mean any monger who has a considerably wide age / looks gap with a girl) won't be able to fuck a true stunner for a can of beer and a joint. She simply won't fall for it.[/QUOTE]Another shining example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2947627]LOL. So now the best quality hooker is one that requires you to spend a certain amount of money on her in addition to paying her an exorbitant amount. Incredible.[/QUOTE]I said wining and dining is not required, unless you really want it. We are talking about different kind of girls. You are talking about hardened pros, be it Lleras, Centro, Mileroticos or whatever. Why would I wine and dine a Lleras hoe? She is not worth it. And she is not best quality, because street girls are the bottom of the barrel. I hire her to bust a quick nut and move on. Not interested in getting to know her and spending a night with her. Therefore it makes no sense to spend more on top of what we agreed on. The girls I'm taking about are semi pros / sugar babies / non pros, the ones I want to repeat with and add to my roster. These girls don't work the streets, casas or clubs. Most have regular job, study, or looking for an exclusive arrangement with 1 guy.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2947717]When you try to sell the buyer and seller realestate agent will work together to rip you off and split the proceeds. When you are ready to sell you will be in a far larger rush to sell than the speed you spent to buy. They know they have you in a time vise and they will squeeze you.
Have you been paying attention to the Colombian president? He is far left, Marxist, does not like Western countries, or capitalism. He or another president in the future may just outlaw foreigners owning property.
I knew a guy in Pattaya Thailand who bought a condo to live and invest in. 10 years later the Russians moved into the area. His condo is now worth half.
In the Philippines your new neighbor is a family of 9 (mom, dad, 3 boys, 2 girls, grandmother, grandfather). Another example is new neighbors move in and have barking dogs or 3 pet roosters you now get to hear every morning for hours on end. Or they have a videoake and sings songs all night everytime there is a holiday or birthday or just because.
My recommendation is to buy all the property you possible can.[/QUOTE]I think you are overstating the risks [B]but[/B] not by a lot. Colombia has a bicameral legislature and the President would have trouble pushing Marxist policies that disadvantage the wealthy class. Nevertheless much of what you say is true and represents a far greater risk for a foreigner.
Of course, the financial wizard that goes by Paulie thinks that if you rent and don't own you can't be a person of substance.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2947779]I said wining and dining is not required, unless you really want it. We are talking about different kind of girls. You are talking about hardened pros, be it Lleras, Centro, Mileroticos or whatever. Why would I wine and dine a Lleras hoe? She is not worth it. And she is not best quality, because street girls are the bottom of the barrel. I hire her to bust a quick nut and move on. Not interested in getting to know her and spending a night with her. Therefore it makes no sense to spend more on top of what we agreed on. The girls I'm taking about are semi pros / sugar babies / non pros, the ones I want to repeat with and add to my roster. [b]These girls don't work the streets, casas or clubs[/b]. Most have regular job, study, or looking for an exclusive arrangement with 1 guy.[/QUOTE]My bad. I should have said:
"So now the best quality hooker is [B]one that you meet online[/B] that requires you to spend a certain amount of money on her in addition to paying her an exorbitant amount. Incredible. ".
How would you know they are looking for an exclusive arrangement with one guy? Because that is what they told you? Certainly they would not tell you they are on offer to as many guys that are willing to pay. Just keep that her little secret I guess.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2947546]You got what the girls like only because you pick the girls that don't know any better. Don't get me wrong, it is a great strategy for someone looking to save money and not looking for the best quality. But I can tell you, that in any major city pretty much anywhere in the world, you (by you I mean any monger who has a considerably wide age / looks gap with a girl) won't be able to fuck a true stunner for a can of beer and a joint. She simply won't fall for it. .[/QUOTE]No, MB, I have done it and if you recall I had a friend who met a friend of my gal, and she was a stunner too. That friend let my friend know in no uncertain terms she was open to him.
In the nonmonger world, women fuck men all the time if the men project wealth. In fact, that is the "norm" and socially acceptable. Fucking someone directly for a $ makes you a hooker.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2947753]Another shining example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.[/QUOTE]Prove me wrong. Let's see your 9's or 10's you spent next to nothing on. Until then, every post or comment of yours is just a fart in the wind.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2947544]
Later, she started to play Salsa which is a change from the electronic dance music she always played. She taught me how to dance and I followed alone. She raised her head expecting me to kiss her. When we finished, she said she was going to take a shower and would come back to dance with me and some rico stuff that I did not get. I am her first and only gringo.
Because the foreplay is now very long, yes, I hoped the sex would start sooner, that was why I started to track time. The resulting observation is the foreplay did not eat into the other time because she stayed even longer.
I think you got my post so I am writing more to see if I see what you see. I was extremely attracted to one girl. The sex was great purely based on that. She could be dead, and the sex will still be good because the single-sided sexual attraction was so strong. It made me feel like a superman, and I was able to do things that I did not know I was capable of. [/QUOTE]The first steakhouse quality sex I ever had was with a hooker, and she got so into the sex and it was so good, I almost blurted out I love you. I thought about why I wanted to say it, and the reason was the pleasure she gave me was so intense, and I loved how that made me feel. Outside of having kids, I think you can get men not to stray if the sex is really good. For me, right now, sex with someone other than my gal would probably be a let down.
My first sugar baby was stunning, and she provided insight for me from being a hot woman I may not have learned otherwise. She would have been the top rated escort (her BJ was off the charts) or one of the best looking women at a top strip club if she wanted to, but she told me her friends who went into that world were never the same after. I call it living with the stripper code and part of the code is to not give anything to a man unless you get paid. So that line about wanting another woman who is more naturally giving is something I would expect if you have been with a woman living with the stripper code.
Thing about the hooker I mentioned is I was not serious about love. I knew she had demons as they would peak out every once in a while. My SB was right about hookers and strippers. Of all the strippers and hookers I met, I think I met one without any demons. Thing about the stripper code is it is okay to fuck men over or be catty with women, but kids are off limits. So when a stripper or escort makes a comment like "Do you believe in God? My guess is she is reflecting on the wrongs she did with kids like she had abortions or abandoned or felt like she abandoned her children.
Thing is you can find the 8-10 looks type who are 8-10 types in bed in the more seedy places in Colombia. It is possible and more likely to have a kind of a sugar relationship if you hand out money or look wealthy but I had low expectations for women and was willing to live with average character. All I expected in return was the woman keep up her end of the bargain which meant hanging out and having sex. Thing I know now that I did not know then is sugar babies look for the same thing in sugar daddies that that they do in BFs or husbands. So I could have dated the sugar babies seriously if I chose to, but I would have had to make the first move and in hindsight, there really were none of my SBs I wanted as GF or wife. The 8-10 character was not there.
So the Colombian women I met who did not talk price were interested in showing me their character. They would cook for me or entertain me and try to show why they would make a good GF or wife. That is why I told guys not to bring up price with women all the time. You might find women like these.
It is funny when you mention the word novio, the sister of the girl I was dating before my current one used the word novio when describing me, and it bugged me, and I let her know. I said we are just dating, and I am not her novio. That girl I was dating said the difference in our ages did not matter to her, but I did not believe her. I felt like I was a compromise for her, and maybe that was why I objected to the word novio.
OTOH, my current gal hid her feelings, I know now that her reason for doing so was because they were so intense she was afraid that they would scare me off. It was only at the end of our trip and she thought that she was not going to see me again that I saw them. With her though, I desperately wanted her to use the term novio so I would have proof she really was into me. Weird huh?
Thing about character and loyalty though is men being critical of female hypergamy, which means women show no loyalty to men and are constantly in search of a better deal / guy than the one they have. There is this funny Romantic Comedy called "What's your number? And the running joke is if you have slept with over 20 men, you will never get married, and the lead female character has been with 19 men.
Rich Cooper of the manosphere world has said studies show the actual number for women when hypergamy kicks in is after four guys. He makes fun of women in the sense that they tend to leave off their one night stands as if they do not count. If you have one every few years, I am not sure it does. If you are banging a different guy every night or week, I think it does.
So if I am reading you right Nounce, you want a woman who performs sexually as the one you described but with a better character. Since I have been around more upper class Colombian families, I have seen the fathers and brothers be very protective of their daughters and sisters. The government may let men get away with shit but these guys won't. So I have been shocked. There is a whole lot less sex going on in that world than what I see in the USA. So what I thought of Colombia, a bunch of not committed promiscuous women, is not true at all. There are a ton of high character, low volume women in the country that could be loyal to a man.
Of all the stupid things JJBee said, the worst was guys here can be with high class Colombian women. They can. It is just easier to find women in the ghettos, bars, and streets. Breaking in the circle I am in and getting to know these people is going to be harder. A friend of mine asked me how to do it, and I was like you might find women like these if you look to hire them for real work.
Finding a beautiful women who is good in bed and is of high character is not easy, but I can tell you they are out there. Thing is, and I am not sure what the right term is, you have to pay your dues or do the work. You cannot just buy a high character woman like this like you do a hooker.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2947845]Prove me wrong. Let's see your 9's or 10's you spent next to nothing on. Until then, every post or comment of yours [B]is just a fart in the wind.[/B][/QUOTE]Some one is watching Shawshank Redemption.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2947845]Prove me wrong. Let's see your 9's or 10's you spent next to nothing on. Until then, every post or comment of yours is just a fart in the wind.[/QUOTE]Says the man who refuses to show his 8's, 9's, and 10's. Everyone sees who is actually full of wind.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2947820]No, MB, I have done it and if you recall I had a friend who met a friend of my gal, and she was a stunner too. That friend let my friend know in no uncertain terms she was open to him.
In the nonmonger world, women fuck men all the time if the men project wealth. In fact, that is the "norm" and socially acceptable. Fucking someone directly for a $ makes you a hooker.[/QUOTE]Elvis, what you are talking about is a different story. Your friend was basically referred to your gal's friend. I'm sure your friend is well off and she knew that beforehand. And do you think inviting a girl over to have a beer and a joint is how you project wealth? I don't think so.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2947865]Some one is watching Shawshank Redemption.[/QUOTE]Morgan Freeman's best movie hands down.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2947851]Finding a beautiful women who is good in bed and is of high character is not easy, but I can tell you they are out there.[/QUOTE]Agreed! I have four of them.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2947851]Thing is, and I am not sure what the right term is, you have to pay your dues or do the work.[/QUOTE]No, it is simply about making the right choices.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2947851]You cannot just buy a high character woman like this like you do a hooker.[/QUOTE]I actually agree with this statement. But often times I see posters confusing the issue. Are you talking a relationship girls (I refer to as ATF) or a prostitute?
[B]Personally, I don't wine and dine prostitutes. I have my ATFs for that. [/B]
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2947908]Elvis, what you are talking about is a different story. Your friend was basically referred to your gal's friend. I'm sure your friend is well off and she knew that beforehand. And do you think inviting a girl over to have a beer and a joint is how you project wealth? I don't think so.[/QUOTE]No, MB, my friend is married. I never would have thought to refer him to her because honestly why would I refer an average looking married friend of mine to a gorgeous single woman half his age? Referring a married man to a friend of my gal would make me look badly with both women. She would have bought him a beer and a joint, and after stressing out about it, he rejected her.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2947908]But I can tell you, that in any major city pretty much anywhere in the world, you (by you I mean any monger who has a considerably wide age / looks gap with a girl) won't be able to fuck a true stunner for a can of beer and a joint. She simply won't fall for it.[/QUOTE]I think I get what you mean, and you are pushing back against older guys who are buying women a beer and a joint and claim to be fucking women as hot as you are. You are saying the women would not sell themselves short right?
But if the older unattractive man says he is CEO of Exxon and she fucks him for no money, she is not selling herself short right? What if the guy is not CEO but makes himself appear to be CEO like? What if he says nothing but she thinks he is CEO of Exxon? What if the guy has drugs she likes? In all those cases, a hottie would fuck a guy without getting $.
You are not saying it specifically but the impression you are giving is the only way an older, average looking man could get a hottie like you have is money. That is not only inaccurate but I think is being perceived as offensive.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2947908]You have a nice meal, chat, maybe go to a bar after, have some drinks, dance. You build a rapport with her, which almost always leads to a better sex. Once you get to your hotel, the clothes are flying off, and the sex is so intense, because you have been eye fucking her all night long. Thats the memorable experience I'm talking about. I still remember all the awesome dates I had years ago, because they were that good. How many casa sessions do I remember? Or netflix and chill dates? Probably none.[/QUOTE]I agree with you rapport always leads to better sex. With me, Netflix and chill is after I have rapport with a woman. Casa dates have not been memorable for me.
It is just I have built rapport over a beer or coffee and had incredible and memorable sex 30 minutes or so after meeting a woman. If the drinking, dining, and dancing thing works for you, that is great.
I think the issue guys are having with you is that you are giving the impression to have the best sex, it is mandatory to spend money on drinking, dancing, and dining. If that is not what you mean, I would clear it up.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2947701]Some individuals are obsessed with the superficial items of life based on appearances.[/QUOTE]That is your excuse for fucking ugly women.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2947701]I remember all the good sex I have had with girls.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the problem with that is the word girls not girl. When Nounce said he was with a woman who was so good in bed, he wanted no one else, he got what I had told him previously. I said I knew the sex he was having was not the best because he was with more than one woman. If you are getting the best, anyone else is a disappointment. You missed the part where the almost always mild mannered Nounce got super pissed at me. He gets it now. You don't. You are proclaiming you are doing the best while not doing the work.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2947701]Someday they will grow up and learn what life is really about: [B]Quality Relationships[/B]![/QUOTE]Quality huh? The kind of relationships you have are the same as animals do, the same as I have with my dry cleaner. If there was no money for cleaning my clothes, our relationship would not exist.
If that is what you call "quality" or grown up, you need to get a life. You think it is the dream of women to be one of your hookers on retainer? Scratch that! You are so full of yourself you probably do.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2947956]No, MB, my friend is married. I never would have thought to refer him to her because honestly why would I refer an average looking married friend of mine to a gorgeous single woman half his age? Referring a married man to a friend of my gal would make me look badly with both women. She would have bought him a beer and a joint, and after stressing out about it, he rejected her.
I think I get what you mean, and you are pushing back against older guys who are buying women a beer and a joint and claim to be fucking women as hot as you are. You are saying the women would not sell themselves short right?
But if the older unattractive man says he is CEO of Exxon and she fucks him for no money, she is not selling herself short right? What if the guy is not CEO but makes himself appear to be CEO like? What if he says nothing but she thinks he is CEO of Exxon? What if the guy has drugs she likes? In all those cases, a hottie would fuck a guy without getting $.
You are not saying it specifically but the impression you are giving is the only way an older, average looking man could get a hottie like you have is money. That is not only inaccurate but I think is being perceived as offensive.
I agree with you rapport always leads to better sex. With me, Netflix and chill is after I have rapport with a woman. Casa dates have not been memorable for me.
It is just I have built rapport over a beer or coffee and had incredible and memorable sex 30 minutes or so after meeting a woman. If the drinking, dining, and dancing thing works for you, that is great.
I think the issue guys are having with you is that you are giving the impression to have the best sex, it is mandatory to spend money on drinking, dancing, and dining. If that is not what you mean, I would clear it up.[/QUOTE]How does an older, average looking guy bridge the age and looks gap? There has to be some benefit involved. I'm not talking only about money / cash in her pocket. The exxon CEO is a great example. BTW, his net worth is close to $200 million. Even if he doesn't pay her cash, she will definitely get some other benefits of dating him. He will take her to luxurious places, show her the world, elevate her lifestyle, introduce her to other wealthy people. Maybe she manages to marry him and get set for life. And you can't say you are Exxon CEO and then bring her over to your rented basic studio apartment in Laureles, let alone a $100/ month shack in Aranjuez, for a beer and a joint. Nobody is going to buy into your BS. Everyone knows that people of this caliber live a very lucrative lifestyle. We all pay one way or another, and a girl who dates a wealthy guy will always get paid, directly or indirectly. Sometimes the benefit is not about the money or lifestyle at all. Lets say, you are a casting director and she is a young up and coming actress that needs a role. Or you are her boss and she needs a promotion, etc.
For some reason you guys are stuck on the "drinking, dining and dancing" thing, which is only one of hundreds of other ways to spend quality time with a woman and project your wealth. Buying her a 2 mil mango is definitely not of them, let's be fucking real.