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I had a girl at Oase tell me that I was not "normal" because I was patronizing an FKK. I wasn't sure how to take that at first. I mean, was she trying to insult me or what? It was actually somebody who I had a great session with. Then it hit me last night. I could have retorted that she wasn't normal for working there! But, that's actually not what I believe. What I believe is that she and I, and people like us, are actually quite normal. Very! What goes on at an FKK club would be going on all over the place all over the world but for societal norms trying to tamp in down and eliminate the "behavior". The world's oldest profession. The world's oldest profession people! It's what human beings, if left to their own devices, would engage in. Therefore, in my view it's all quite normal, and the girl who said that too me is still letting the voice of society get inside of her head and tell her what she' doing is not normal. And what she did was project that onto me and other guys who enjoy buying sex. This is what she did.

FKK girls = more girl next door and more obedient. Less hassle to get what you want. 95% of girls are also very submissive and will do what you say on command. They make you feel like a king. These girls are not very playful outside of the room. I think a Romanian girl has made me laugh maybe once, but I can't remember it.

Thailand is cheaper, better value and more girls but you will have trouble with girls who won't do this and won't do that where at an FKK you just grab the girl BBBJ included, only ever seen one girl who won't CIM and probably 80% do anal. Thai girls are much, much more entertaining outside of the room and will keep you company and tell funny jokes for free or so long as you buy them lady drinks. Some Thai people are also very charming, while Romanians seem to be mostly about the body.

Personally I prefer Romanians, but with the new BBBJ law I might have to start learning the tricks of the trade of Thailand.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2025273]Sorry I don't recall your posts in the forum when you visited. Can you remind me which places you were looking for the girls and your budget for a girl?

edit - I've searched the entire forum and don't see a single post from you there. What years did you go?[/QUOTE]First time I was in thailand was in 2008. Found a girl in a phuket club (Hollywood) who I didn't pay a dime to who i stayed with whole trip. But I figurred she was normally a tute working in pattaya anyway, and she tried the standard hospital scam on me (did you know there is an actual physical black book for scamming tourists in thailand?). Went back twice in 2010. And lived in asia in 2011. Plus more trips back to asia between 2012 and Sept. 2014 when I was there last time. But not used ISG for that. ****** for macau and ********forum for thailand / singapore / philippines. But I was not too active on reports. Except for in macau, but keeping my nick secret. But also been clubbing alot without paying them. So in total I've spent about 20 months in asia.

I've been all over south east asia and hk/macau/guangdong... ok, the only thing I havent done, is searching out some strange areas famous for having good girls. Like the island of Samar (Calbayog/Catarman especially), or the city of Udon Thani. Or obscure places in vietnam etc... but yes, there can be dousins or hundreads of strange mixed little Pistons running around in asia for all I know. lol

(Censorred words are asian based forums apparently not allowed to mention here)

[QUOTE=MrHo;2025404]Personally, I do not enjoy fucking big ass anal, but I do love fucking fit body skinny tight ass anal LOL. Tight ass anal is more of my thing than Latino type ass anal.[/QUOTE]Them plump, Euro-Brazilian, butt holes are tight dude! So tight in fact that sometimes they hurt my dick haha! Damn, remembering all these Brazilian girls I cornholed is making my dick hard! LOLOLOL!

What about these "tight" Brasiliera butt holes? Better? Hehehe! Damn I've fucked a lot of pretty girls in the butt over the years!

This is one of my favorite shots of all time because of the mirror effects. Euro-Brazilian blonde with an Aryan anus so tight I nicknamed her "The Pincher". Ouch! Didn't stop me from digging deep up in there though! Hahaha! Is she a "stunner" Mr. Ho? Hmm? Or, is that butt too big? I don't give a damn! I paid for that ass LOL! And loved ever bit of it too! I sure did! Viva Brazil!

[QUOTE=Breadman;2025523]I recently witnessed a girl quote an older guy $400 for full service (in the states). This girl is known to many of my friends to give it up for as little as $100. Why the huge price difference? I'm assuming it's because she doesn't want to fuck such an old looking guy. Does a working girl have the right to pick and choose who she fucks?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XXL;2025549]Yes she has, and you may get turned down but it is very rare. Someone on this forum posted a very good explanation of girl's priorities. For example an older guy with some money will be preferred over a young stud who is broke, etc. If you are and look clean and civilized age will not matter at all to girls. Young guys can be problematic even if they're good-looking, for instance I've had girls complaining about young guys on Viagra who pounded them for whole hours.[/QUOTE]So the answer is 'yes she has the right' to pick and choose a younger guy vs an older guy. Then why if the person is of color gets turned down she's a racist?

I think you missed the point on why I asked what I did Pistons. You said it's difficult to find hot girls in Thailand. Imo guys who post this generally try to go to the routes where it is cheapest place to find a girl. Not that you can't run into an odd gem freelancer but it certainly is difficult. It's akin to a guy who goes to Germany then goes to the Frankfurt RLD or partytreff clubs and says there aren't any hot girls available in Germany. Walk into a top gogo bar like Sensations in Pattaya and tell me there are no girls to your liking there. Most guys on ISG don't set foot in there since they aren't willing to dish out 250+ euro for a girl.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2025380]Well people got different taste, I mean white folks tend to like monkey type girls in Philippines, where as I like Eurasians. [/QUOTE]OMG this is funny. Yes, many men go for the monkey look in Southeast Asia. I guess they think it's exotic. Like you I only go for the Eurasians. One of my girlfriends was half Thai, half Italian. Another was half Thai, half German. Looks 100% German. I show photos of my current girlfriend and although she is full Thai people can't believe it.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2025672]I think you missed the point on why I asked what I did Pistons. You said it's difficult to find hot girls in Thailand. Imo guys who post this generally try to go to the routes where it is cheapest place to find a girl. Not that you can't run into an odd gem freelancer but it certainly is difficult. It's akin to a guy who goes to Germany then goes to the Frankfurt RLD or partytreff clubs and says there aren't any hot girls available in Germany. Walk into a top gogo bar like Sensations in Pattaya and tell me there are no girls to your liking there. Most guys on ISG don't set foot in there since they aren't willing to dish out 250+ euro for a girl.
[/QUOTE]For me, it seems more sensible to ask, "What would I get in Thailand for 100 Euros?" (if we assume ST = about an hour) since that's the price we pay for an hour in FKK. Granted, in Thailand, you must pay barfine and in Germany, we pay Eintritt, so that factors in as well.

For me, I ask myself why I would fly all the way to Thailand and pay 100 Euros for an hour with a comparable Thai girl when I've got incredible Romanian girls willing to do everything I could possibly want for 100 Euros?

Maybe I misunderstand the prices in Thailand, but from looking around the Asian forums, it seems that around 100 Euros is not atypical for 1 hour short time with a Thai girl.

Thailand pricing. I'll be specific to Pattaya since that is where I live.

100 euro = 3600 baht.

Beach Road freelancer - 700-1000 baht per 30-60 minutes. One of the prettiest I saw on Beach Road was 700 baht where many uglies demand 1000 baht.

BJ bar - 500 baht for BBBJ + CIM plus 300 to the bar + 100-200 for a drink.

Massage girl - 1000 baht to the girl, 200 baht to the massage parlor for 30-60 minutes.

Soi 6 girl - 1000 baht to the girl, 350 baht bar fine per hour and you do get the full hour.

IBar / Insomnia disco girl - 1500-2000 baht short time (ST) which can be 1 hour to 4 hours depending on the girl and how much she cares to be with you. 2000-3000 Long Time.

Beer bar girls. A bit cheaper than as iBar above but there will be a bar fine of 300-500 baht.

Soapie massage - 1800-7500 baht (Russian) for 90 minutes all-inclusive. Anything decent is 3000+.

Gogo bars.

- 150-200 baht for DFK and lap dancing for 15 minutes.

- barfine (the cost to take a girl out of the bar) can range from 800-2000 baht.

- take out can vary widely on girl quality and club. Short time can be 1500-3000 for 1-4 hours. Long time can 2000-7000 for 3-12 hours. Average ST would be 3000, LT 5000.

A typical night can be comparable to a FKK day. 4 girls including lobster dinner (5000 baht), high end disco (5000 baht), some cheap shopping at street vendors for hats, earrings (1000 baht), and tip to the girls the next afternoon (12,000 baht) totaling 23,000 baht (640 euro).


[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2025690]For me, I ask myself why I would fly all the way to Thailand and pay 100 Euros for an hour with a comparable Thai girl when I've got incredible Romanian girls willing to do everything I could possibly want for 100 Euros?[/QUOTE]

FKK's are just a different experience. Cookie cutter meat markets where you go in, pick a girl, bang her, pay her. With a few exceptions, you get to be with your FKK girl for the amount of time you pay her only. Really nothing wrong with that if that's all you want. Thailand is just a different experience. Hang out with a girl for a while buying her some drinks, take her to dinner/movie/discos, fuck her before bed, sleep, fuck her again, go for breakfast. Some leave since they have kids. Others stick around all day until they have to go back to work.

The major difference is in Pattaya there are maybe 50,000 girls working on any given day. In Frankfurt big 5 FKK's there are 500-700 on a good day. That's why there are many dogs in Pattaya. Just pure numbers available for Cheap Charlies and guys who seek the best of the best.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2025690] "What would I get in Thailand for 100 Euros?".[/QUOTE]You can't compare an FKK club to Thailand, its like comparing a single grape to an entire orchard. The sheer numbers are staggering and don't believe the guys who say the quality isn't there. Then there's all the extra's you can do during the day like hitting the beach, grabbing a massage, hitting the bars, playing some pool, etc. And usually if you repeat with the girl AO is given, nothing better than spending 100 euro's and pounding a hot girl all night and then waking up and sliding it in while she sleeps. Buddy of mine and I also gangbanged two sisters AO, 100 euro's each for four hours of fun. And in Pattaya its easy to find girls willing to stay all night from anywhere from 30 to 100 euro's. You will find dud's, everyone runs into them. But when you find a keeper, that's when things get interesting.

Thanks for the price update for Thailand. Is this still valid that Pattaya is the cheapest place in Thailand and that average price at Bangkok and Phuket is around between 30 and 50 % more expansive?

And I see in total a large price increase over the last ten years in Thailand for P6 different to Germany where official price is same for around twenty years. But I think this will change in Germany in July.

I don't think the 3 cities vary widely in pricing. I think Phuket is the most expensive only because it's mainly for tourists. Pattaya gogo bar barfines and possibly rates are more expensive than Bangkok. Bangkok lady drinks may be 1 euro more. Bangkok is much smaller scale than Pattaya numbers wise. Maybe Syzygies can update us on BKK pricing.

BKK pricing from my limited experience. I mainly only go to Thermae for my girls.

- Thermae - 2500 set price for one hour at your hotel. Service varies widely.

- oily massage - 2000-3000 for 90 minutes.

- Baccara gogo - 2500 for girl for 2+ hours plus 800 barfine.

Thermae video. Not representative of what Thermae can be like but this is the only recent video of Thermae I know of. Start at 1:30. First part of video are ladyboys outside.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NczOig0hcM&t=250s[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2025410]I had a girl at Oase tell me that I was not "normal" because I was patronizing an FKK. I wasn't sure how to take that at first. I mean, was she trying to insult me or what? It was actually somebody who I had a great session with. Then it hit me last night. I could have retorted that she wasn't normal for working there! But, that's actually not what I believe. What I believe is that she and I, and people like us, are actually quite normal. Very! What goes on at an FKK club would be going on all over the place all over the world but for societal norms trying to tamp in down and eliminate the "behavior". The world's oldest profession. The world's oldest profession people! It's what human beings, if left to their own devices, would engage in. Therefore, in my view it's all quite normal, and the girl who said that too me is still letting the voice of society get inside of her head and tell her what she' doing is not normal. And what she did was project that onto me and other guys who enjoy buying sex. This is what she did.[/QUOTE]Marriage and normal way is different to each era.

Now these thing are consumed in to extreme capitalism and has totally different meaning to our parent or grand parent days. It is all polluted now, thanks to information revolution via internet etc. Girls and men, we both got smarter and began to think rationally.

In such era we live in today, we men are all buying sex in one way or another, but some men are stupid and blind to see or admit it.

Like they say, love make you blind.

On the other hand, we pro mongers who are more enlighten and see things through to accuracy, just go for most efficient method of getting ourselves heaven.

For pro mongers, fate, destiny and karma are meeting stunners in German FKK or related brothel LOL.

I had such a destined, fateful meeting with love of my life in German FKK, what nights, what nights LOL.

One fine day, these girls will be wife of some damn ass who believe she was working in humanitarian organization like UNICEF.

Well she was very humanitarian to me LOL LOL LOL And it was not UNICEF, but it was humanitarian organization called Palace, Artemis, Oase, sharks, GT, Oceans or LR LOL.

And it was not NPO, but big time PO LOL.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2025563]This is one of my favorite shots of all time because of the mirror effects. Euro-Brazilian blonde with an Aryan anus so tight I nicknamed her "The Pincher". Ouch! Didn't stop me from digging deep up in there though! Hahaha! Is she a "stunner" Mr. Ho? Hmm? Or, is that butt too big? I don't give a damn! I paid for that ass LOL! And loved ever bit of it too! I sure did! Viva Brazil![/QUOTE]Yeah it is fit body, this is good one, but I never get these Kim Khardashian type ass hype that are trend on some guys nowadays.

It is good thing that white folks invaded south america centuries ago, which mass produced many stunners that seems to be around nowadays.

As for now, we still got the main source Germany as mongering destination LOL Thanks god for that, it must be such a master race brain that provide us such services called FKK LOL.