Medellin Reports

Honestly if you are that worried about it then just don't go. No one can predict the future. If you can work remotely then all is fine. If you can't and there is a lack of pilots or a shutdown, well you knew the consequences up front. Just make a decision. No one on the board is going to know what is right for you. Only you do. Your posting questions are getting silly. What do you expect from the board members?

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2648752]My trip to MDE is hanging on by a thread. I know that this is entirely unpredictable. And my question is probably foolish. But based on past experiences, how quickly could they enact shutdown protocols? I have a pretty short trip. I have considered changing to Mexico but I strongly prefer going to MDE. I am definitely concerned about the testing requirement for the return trip, as getting stuck in Colombia for an extended time is not going to work. (Yes, I know that is a big roll of the dice and may yet be the cause of me changing my trip.) But if I am heading out on this Wednesday and returning Saturday, my thought (or strong hope) is that it's almost too late in the game for a shutdown to affect this week.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=SodomizeHer;2648508]Can you post the name of the Dentist that will lead me to their info on Google? [/QUOTE]SOI Vidadent. CLnica Odontolgica.

050012, Calle 50 # 45-56, Medellin, Antioquia.

[URL]https://g.co/kgs/2FfP8T[/URL].

When I put "SOI Vidadent" into Google Maps it popped right up.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2648752]My trip to MDE is hanging on by a thread. I know that this is entirely unpredictable. And my question is probably foolish. But based on past experiences, how quickly could they enact shutdown protocols? I have a pretty short trip. I have considered changing to Mexico but I strongly prefer going to MDE. I am definitely concerned about the testing requirement for the return trip, as getting stuck in Colombia for an extended time is not going to work. (Yes, I know that is a big roll of the dice and may yet be the cause of me changing my trip.) But if I am heading out on this Wednesday and returning Saturday, my thought (or strong hope) is that it's almost too late in the game for a shutdown to affect this week.[/QUOTE]Nothing is going to change in the next week that should effect your trip, but two weeks from now, nobody knows.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2648824]Honestly if you are that worried about it then just don't go. No one can predict the future. If you can work remotely then all is fine. If you can't and there is a lack of pilots or a shutdown, well you knew the consequences up front. Just make a decision. No one on the board is going to know what is right for you. Only you do. Your posting questions are getting silly. What do you expect from the board members?.[/QUOTE]It's a similar reason I haven't taken a trip to an extent. I can't afford to lose my job not because of a shut down which would be the same thing seeing chicas getting covid and getting stuck in the country. Lucky for me have another job that is entirely remote. I'm going to delay my trip to when I can afford to lose my present job which would be this summer.

A pretty and pleasant girl with nice, tight, natural body. She manages the Ciel Health Spa on street level of hotel Habana Vieja on calle 10 A, off Ave Poblado near Santa Fe mall.

I recently heard she broke off with the BF and is open for new relationship. Any bro want a non pro experience should give her a try.

There are 2 other masseuses at that location, both heavier than Tatiana.

More LC and CC notes and hints.

Before coming here, I first concentrated on both Latin Cupid, which I had an old account, and then later Colombia Cupid. I upgraded to Platinum on accounts. Platinum accounts are annoying to those browsing IMHO and might be a little counter productive. They have an oversized thumbnail and they always put you at the top for any activity for the girls. Both are annoying. However, they provide translation in the message and mutual match search. The translation in the site is useful but mediocre. Most translations are accurate but I have had translations which totally screwed up the message. Including one where the girl said she did want to meet in the Google translation and the cupid site said she did not, so double check the translations. She did want to meet me.

In general, I added about one WhatsApp contact a day. Generally the process would work is that I get a like, sometimes after sending a like, other times just viewing their profile and getting a like. The more forward girls would send a like and a message. After getting a like, I would message the girl. About 50% of the time I would get a message back. Some girls would send me a like, then when receiving my message, actually look at my profile and decline to return my message. After that, a few messages back and forth and about half the time I get a contact. Seems like the 50% rule applied to every action. Two messages sent, 1 received back, etc.

All this, of course, takes time. But remember the goal here. The goal is cheap sex with a good looking woman with GFE. Tinder is easy, facebook almost as easy. CC and LC take more time and the pay off, for me and my goals, is more time with the girls for less money. Now, at first every time a girl writes to you and asks the usual questions like where you live, job, family, etc, you write it up. But I kept an open document in Google Drive and after I answered the usual questions, I copied them, as well as things I asked and told them like what I am looking for. So, when messaging I would just copy and paste from the doc for a lot of the messages, so I would start browsing or watching netflix while making it seem I was writing her answer. In general, I would spend an hour or so every night and more on Weekends, maybe 3-4 hours. And remember, I am watching Netflix on TV or something else while this is going on.

As for when to join, pros and cons. I think the ideal time to join is about a month away. The girls do switch on and off their profiles, and the hotter the girl the more likely she will do this, so you have to check daily the sites and search often to find them.

The additional matching options are useful, especially the mutual matches. In one search you can find all the girls who match your criteria and you theirs. Be careful about your match settings. I have found that trying to exclude all but reasonably fit and trim girls you can't just use the slim / athletic / average and so on matches because the girls have different ideas as to what is slim and what is not. Many also just don't pick a category, even those who are slender. Usually, you will see a short, but somewhat heavy girl say she is slim or average, when from looking at her picture, she is clearly not. However, you sometimes find very nice attractive girls from the photos who select a few pounds extra. Now, the photos can be old but some have date and time stamps on the photo and are recent. I believe that the girls are using their smartphones and as we all do, select the wrong choice and do not realize it. What I found works best is a combination of height and weight restrictions, so, heavier weight for taller girls and such. Another thing to note is that girls turn off and on their profiles, so you need to search several times a day if you can. Basically, I used both the search and matching a lot. Search was useful for finding young girls without employment or students and more likely to find p4 p girls.

Onto the meetings:

Girl D came over for an all nighter. We did a mutual strip dance to Santana's "Oye Como Va", an excellent choice for getting a girl into the mood. Excellent sex in the evening but I did not come. I did introduce her to one of my vibrators, and it was a hit. More sex in the morning with her giving me a handjob to get me off. I did give her 150 k for phone and her pet's surgery which I verified was true. I was not asked, but I know even the free girls like cash every once in a while. About 12 hours together.

Girl E: Girl E is in her mid thirties, BBB (Big Bosom Babe) and we met at San Carbon. I had wanted to meet at a nice Italian restaurant nearby but she objected saying it was too far and it had bad service. So we met at the very expensive San Carbon. Food was good, but not at the price I paid. We went back to my apartment, and talked some more and then she left after wanting me to pay her Taxi which I agreed to beforehand. This however, irritated me. I had just spent 330 k on the meal, but I paid if not with the best of grace. Later she wanted me to meet the family, see how she lived, etc and I pushed back, telling her that we were just dating, to read my messages explaining all that and from there, things spiraled down the tube. In short, she wants a husband, not a boyfriend, and that's a no go. Total cost around 350 k.

Girl F. This girl is in her mid 20's, two kids, and the most deceptive photo ever. She looks reasonable, even a little hot but in person, fugly. A 3-4 at best and a mouth breather. We went to eat and I could not wait for the date to end. We did have some sex, with her giving me a blow job. She had good oral skills, I will give her that but not enough to get me off and I did not cum. Cost was mean and the taxi, about 100 k Will not repeat.

Girl A. Repeated with her again. She is taller than average I realize after being with so many spinners. Again she claims to be on her period and that her period lasts a long time because of her anti-contraceptive implant, which I could feel. She is also the only woman with a kid who admits to receiving child support so expect from her profile age being way off, everything she says checks but I am doubtful. We watched some netflix and some heavy petting. I could have had her give me a hand job but I did not. 3 hours, 150 k excluding taxi. I will get inside her next time dammit! She is worth the wait. Those asymmetrical breasts are fascinating.

Tinder girl: All my cupid girls were either unavailable or not answering so I hooked with a mid 20's slightly taller than average slender tinder girl Laura. Lots to tats, little A size breasts which sagged a little. One child, no stretch marks. Good sex, she has better than average hands and after my dick started to go soft, got me hard again and we fucked, first in standard missionary and then in closed legs missionary, my favorite. She was reasonably tight in standard and more so in closed legs. She was tight enough that it felt real good and I came in that position. I will probably repeat. Cost 150 for two hours excluding taxi.

Overall, last week had mixed results. Girl D is willing to meet me several times a week with no expectations of money. Sex is getting better with her. I am also getting better with my legs finally recovering so sex is better for me too. The other girls are the chances you take on any girl. Even when you tell them you only want casual, they believe what they want too sometimes. That's it for now, time to go meet an ISG member to watch some American Football.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2648824]Honestly if you are that worried about it then just don't go. No one can predict the future. If you can work remotely then all is fine. If you can't and there is a lack of pilots or a shutdown, well you knew the consequences up front. Just make a decision. No one on the board is going to know what is right for you. Only you do. Your posting questions are getting silly. What do you expect from the board members?.[/QUOTE]I wasn't asking what is right for me. I thought my question was reasonably straightforward: "But based on past experiences, how quickly could they enact shutdown protocols?" That has nothing to do with me personally. Thankfully, another poster was kind enough to respond. But feel free to ignore my "silliness" LOL.

[QUOTE=ElMoreno92;2645035]Another winner from the Facebook Medellin Chica Mob.

This Facebook Chica (pictured) sent me message and asked did I want company. To be honest, I was tired from bike riding. I looked through her pics and thought okay, she can come through and "keep me company. " I am sure many of you have tagged her already. Now it was my turn.

She came through at the exact time she said that she would. She went straight for the shower. I watched her shower and I got rock hard. I said F it! I joined her in the shower. She lathered me up with soap and washed me off. Then she got down on her knees and put my bone in her mouth. She was sucking me like a damn pro. I had to stop her many time so I wouldn't shoot my load. She moved my hand away and machine gun sucked me until I blasted a load in her mouth. WHEW! Damn. That felt good. She got some hellified the sucking lips on her. I dried off and laid in the bed. She got on top of me and rubbed her body against mine, kissed and licked me from head to toe. That got me hard again quickly. Damn this chica is good. She put a condom on my bone and rode me silly..[/QUOTE]I guess some of y'all be paying these girls like 500 mil plus. She literally got super offended when I offered 2 to 3 which I think is generous. Didn't even discuss any details or make any special requests. She wanted 450 off rip. The review was awesome but damn she gave me some bad vibes from the first time I contacted her. I know it's always ymmv but damn the market has been effed. Seems like I'm offending chicas left and right when I tell them anything less than 400 or 500. Good thing there is plenty of other options available though.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2646384]Others have said the same thing. It's the "give a man a fish, teach a man to fish" concept.

If you're handing out free food, you'll quickly have a bunch of people lining up to get the handouts. If you're giving free lessons on how to get your own free food, you'll have very few students.

Most of the serious Facebook users here don't need any more contacts. They can always find them on their own. They might trade contacts with other people, who they know.

There are 3 other groups you'll find here.

1. Those who have no interest in Facebook.

2. Those who have no serious intention to visit Medellin, but want to play games with Medellin Facebook girls.

3. Those who will go to Medellin, but don't want to do the work, the guys lining up for free food.

Group 2 presents one problem. Depending on the game they are playing, they can chase girls off of Facebook, or make the girls less open to requests from legitimate mongers.

Group 3 presents a couple of problems. First, there are always a few white knights, who will run to the girl and let her know someone is putting her information on the internet. That can come directly back to you, with the girl blaming you.

Some guys will also fuck up a good thing. This one happened to me. I shared info with someone I didn't know. I told him the price, the good and bad about the girl and if he wasn't interested at that price, not to waste her time. He completely low-balled the girl and then started insulting her when she wouldn't come down to his price.

Other guys will bring other problems. In the end, you're just giving handouts to people who will be right back for another handout tomorrow, and those are the good ones.[/QUOTE]Maria has been my FB friend since December and she even shared me her whatsapp number in December. Since I am visiting medellin on Jan. 16, I tried to contact her via fb messenger but got no response till date. She is probably swamped by FB messages. So I sent her Whatsapp message today and got immediate but curt response saying that she no longer does 200 k appointments. Good for her. But this is what happens when exposure turn them into diva, and soon normal rate of 150 k-200 k becomes history.

Kate, another FB girl that got exposure here quoted me 250k + taxi, when I merely announced my travel plans to visit Medellin. I sent same travel announcement message to my other FB friends and over 30 of them responded positively without quoting prices. So Kate and Maria stood out in their response.

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2648979]I tried to contact her via fb messenger but got no response till date. She is probably swamped by FB messages. So I sent her Whatsapp message today and got immediate but curt response saying that she no longer does 200 k appointments. Good for her. But this is what happens when exposure turn them into diva,[/QUOTE]Did she happen to mention what she does do?

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2648675]Opinion only: I arrive in 2 weeks.

My take on this has been to escape. Large events in the USA, CES (150,000 attendees. Just fizzled along with many, many other events. NYE etc. There will be another surge. Lots of flu like illness with Omicron but the triple vaccinated will probably skate with very few getting sick. At all. STILL it's not much fun when your airline employees have 30-50% MIA and flights are getting cancelled all over. Lots of other business slowing down, closing etc. It will pass in 60 days. So I figure 2 months or more in Colombia is just about right for me. God forbid being in Cali fornia. It might catch fire or fall into the ocean! Worse case is if lockdowns come I just order up room service from the escorts and SA girls. I've been ok so far except for that one Chica who had bronchitis. Last summer. ? for the list. Would hotels require visitors to get tested ever? Or just perhaps a temp check?[/QUOTE]2020 into 2021 most places were doing temperature checks on everyone. Mid 2021 almost no places were doing temperature checks.

I would say maybe on temperature checks for guests and maybe a limited number of guests.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2648752]My trip to MDE is hanging on by a thread. I know that this is entirely unpredictable. And my question is probably foolish. But based on past experiences, how quickly could they enact shutdown protocols? I have a pretty short trip. I have considered changing to Mexico but I strongly prefer going to MDE. I am definitely concerned about the testing requirement for the return trip, as getting stuck in Colombia for an extended time is not going to work. (Yes, I know that is a big roll of the dice and may yet be the cause of me changing my trip.) But if I am heading out on this Wednesday and returning Saturday, my thought (or strong hope) is that it's almost too late in the game for a shutdown to affect this week.[/QUOTE]Based on past shutdowns, it's unlikely any shutdown will happen without 5 days or more notice.

Your biggest worry is testing positive when it's time to go home. However, for such a short trip odds are against testing positive on Friday, for a Saturday return flight.

[QUOTE=LebaneseBlonde;2648842]It's a similar reason I haven't taken a trip to an extent. I can't afford to lose my job not because of a shut down which would be the same thing seeing chicas getting covid and getting stuck in the country. Lucky for me have another job that is entirely remote. I'm going to delay my trip to when I can afford to lose my present job which would be this summer.[/QUOTE]I guess I'm lucky in that regard. A month ago I made a joke to my boss, in front of his boss about quitting. Last week I got called in and told they got approval from corporate to give me a 30% raise.

Getting another trip to Colombia unexpectedly extended for 2 weeks would panic my boss, but my job is secure.

Of course, first I have to find the time to take a vacation.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2648891]A pretty and pleasant girl with nice, tight, natural body. She manages the Ciel Health Spa on street level of hotel Habana Vieja on calle 10 A, off Ave Poblado near Santa Fe mall.

I recently heard she broke off with the BF and is open for new relationship. Any bro want a non pro experience should give her a try.

There are 2 other masseuses at that location, both heavier than Tatiana.[/QUOTE]Clarification for anyone looking for the place, it's Calle 10 A Sur, just west of Avenida Poblado.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2648949]I guess some of y'all be paying these girls like 500 mil plus. She literally got super offended when I offered 2 to 3 which I think is generous. Didn't even discuss any details or make any special requests. She wanted 450 off rip. The review was awesome but damn she gave me some bad vibes from the first time I contacted her. I know it's always ymmv but damn the market has been effed. Seems like I'm offending chicas left and right when I tell them anything less than 400 or 500. Good thing there is plenty of other options available though.[/QUOTE]When demand got high she had to raise prices in her mind. But there are probably lurkers on here that already booked and agreed to the price.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2648949]I guess some of y'all be paying these girls like 500 mil plus. She literally got super offended when I offered 2 to 3 which I think is generous. Didn't even discuss any details or make any special requests. She wanted 450 off rip. The review was awesome but damn she gave me some bad vibes from the first time I contacted her. I know it's always ymmv but damn the market has been effed. Seems like I'm offending chicas left and right when I tell them anything less than 400 or 500. Good thing there is plenty of other options available though.[/QUOTE]Most of the High Priced Chicas in Medellin are usually dealing with Gringos, you know, the ones that are paying those rates and the ones that will fall for their ruse. Another clue is that they will quote in dollars or euros. GPS can be avoided without jeopardizing quality and service. There are other successful avenues for achieving desired results.

Where do I start.

Arrived in Medellin on a Tuesday night, after a few self inflicted issues with flights. Before I left I met up with a girl from tinder for a mall trip and had lunch. I floated the idea of her joining me for a weekend in Medellin.

I had very high hopes for one girl from Seeking, who unfortunately, said it was too late when I arrived. Instead arranged to see her the next day for lunch. If she was the only girl I saw this trip, my trip still would have been worth it. She's the unicorn. I finally found her. We ended up spending all day together drinking in bars, she showed me around Poblado, and we then went back to the hotel and watched a movie. She stayed the night with me as well. Whole time I couldn't believe my luck.

The following few days, she was busy, so I made plans with a member of the forum who showed me all the spots. We did a run through the casas during the day, and then the strip clubs and the mansion the following night, which exceeded my expectations. Didn't pick anyone out but got a few numbers, and was glad to visit all the places I've read so much about, in person. There are such a mix of venues, some for locals, some for gringos and what I think is a larger number and broader range of venues (in terms of venue style, but less range in terms of girls) than almost anywhere I've been, except maybe Sao Paulo. The environment and vibe is also incredible. Better than anywhere I've been, including Brazil, I haven't seen a round up of all venues in Medellin in this thread for a while, maybe write something up later.

Also squeezed in another dinner date with a punkish Ruby Rose vibe girl, which also went fairly well.

The following night was a weird one. My Bogota girl came up to visit, we did a tour of commun 13, met some nee friends, including the tour guide and we all went drinking together. I had told both my unicorn and the girl from Bogota about each other, and both were out drinking with us. However, my unicorn wasn't in a great mood and left pretty soon. I found out it was her birthday, but some other things must have happened which upset her. She said she wasn't the jealous type and that it wasn't the other girl, which she actually got along with. But when she left, she really wasn't happy, and it freaked me out.

Thankfully, she texted me back the next day and said everything was fine. I went out on another tour with my Bogota girl, and even went to a spa with her and another girl from the tour (I booked for 3). But after, my girl had to leave to go back to Bogota, I was actually more choked up about it than I thought. She was just very drama free, and although we didn't speak each others language very well, we had a good time and I really liked her company. And the night before, with the drama, it was great to have her as a stabilising force. Then did a night tour with the other girl from the tour to take my mind off things. I think she may be interested, but too bad I Lready told her everything about the other girls, haha.

I organised to meet up with my unicorn today, and it sounds like we're back on track. Wish me luck gentlemen.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2649097]Based on past shutdowns, it's unlikely any shutdown will happen without 5 days or more notice.

Your biggest worry is testing positive when it's time to go home. However, for such a short trip odds are against testing positive on Friday, for a Saturday return flight.[/QUOTE]That's the hope! I'm going to just go for it. If I come down with it, I'm sure one of my local monger brethern will let me crash at their place, right? LOL.

Would anyone be nice enough to send me links to a few Facebook chicas profile so I can get my Facebook list going?

[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2649320]Would anyone be nice enough to send me links to a few Facebook chicas profile so I can get my Facebook list going?[/QUOTE]Search for [URL]facebook.com[/URL] in this forum.

[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2649320]Would anyone be nice enough to send me links to a few Facebook chicas profile so I can get my Facebook list going?[/QUOTE]Follow this post.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2647333]What would actually be great is if guys actually took the time to RTFF (sorry but you teed that up for me).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2649100]I guess I'm lucky in that regard. A month ago I made a joke to my boss, in front of his boss about quitting. Last week I got called in and told they got approval from corporate to give me a 30% raise...[/QUOTE]Congrats! I hope you got a big bonus too.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2649094]2020 into 2021 most places were doing temperature checks on everyone. Mid 2021 almost no places were doing temperature checks.[/QUOTE]The temperature checks were one thing, and there was the mandatory spray of disinfectant on the hands. The most odd thing of all was the disinfecting of the bottom of your shoes that a lot of places required which was the first thing to cease, followed by the temperature checks, and now most places just have hand sanitizer available.

this is a site for mongers. It's not a dating site..... Most people on this site are seeking arrangement or tender or looking for hookers not girlfriends

[QUOTE=ManchesterCat;2649283]Where do I start.

Arrived in Medellin on a Tuesday night, after a few self inflicted issues with flights. Before I left I met up with a girl from tinder for a mall trip and had lunch. I floated the idea of her joining me for a weekend in Medellin.

I had very high hopes for one girl from Seeking, who unfortunately, said it was too late when I arrived. Instead arranged to see her the next day for lunch. If she was the only girl I saw this trip, my trip still would have been worth it. She's the unicorn. I finally found her. We ended up spending all day together drinking in bars, she showed me around Poblado, and we then went back to the hotel and watched a movie. She stayed the night with me as well. Whole time I couldn't believe my luck.

The following few days, she was busy, so I made plans with a member of the forum who showed me all the spots. We did a run through the casas during the day, and then the strip clubs and the mansion the following night, which exceeded my expectations. Didn't pick anyone out but got a few numbers, and was glad to visit all the places I've read so much about, in person. There are such a mix of venues, some for locals, some for gringos and what I think is a larger number and broader range of venues (in terms of venue style, but less range in terms of girls) than almost anywhere I've been, except maybe Sao Paulo. The environment and vibe is also incredible. Better than anywhere I've been, including Brazil, I haven't seen a round up of all venues in Medellin in this thread for a while, maybe write something up later.

Also squeezed in another dinner date with a punkish Ruby Rose vibe girl, which also went fairly well.

The following night was a weird one. My Bogota girl came up to visit, we did a tour of commun 13, met some nee friends, including the tour guide and we all went drinking together. I had told both my unicorn and the girl from Bogota about each other, and both were out drinking with us. However, my unicorn wasn't in a great mood and left pretty soon. I found out it was her birthday, but some other things must have happened which upset her. She said she wasn't the jealous type and that it wasn't the other girl, which she actually got along with. But when she left, she really wasn't happy, and it freaked me out.

Thankfully, she texted me back the next day and said everything was fine. I went out on another tour with my Bogota girl, and even went to a spa with her and another girl from the tour (I booked for 3). But after, my girl had to leave to go back to Bogota, I was actually more choked up about it than I thought. She was just very drama free, and although we didn't speak each others language very well, we had a good time and I really liked her company. And the night before, with the drama, it was great to have her as a stabilising force. Then did a night tour with the other girl from the tour to take my mind off things. I think she may be interested, but too bad I Lready told her everything about the other girls, haha.

I organised to meet up with my unicorn today, and it sounds like we're back on track. Wish me luck gentlemen.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2649097]Based on past shutdowns, it's unlikely any shutdown will happen without 5 days or more notice.

Your biggest worry is testing positive when it's time to go home. However, for such a short trip odds are against testing positive on Friday, for a Saturday return flight.[/QUOTE]When the return testing interval was 72 hrs. I landed on Thursday, have a cita, do my test Friday morning, go about my business Friday, Saturday and Sunday morning and board Sunday afternoon for a flight back home. Now 24 hrs and a highly infectious variant rampaging through makes it more risky to get stuck in quarantine. What's insane is the inconsistency from the CDC. If you are a health worker and we need you, you can return to work with sick and vulnerable patients 5 days or even earlier if you are asymptomatic and without even testing. However if you are an international traveler, it is minimum 10 days to 2 weeks of quarantine with testing and all that crap. I try to respect these agencies but they are not covering themselves in glory with these mixed messages. I think the travel testing should be repealed at this point. What is the point when you don't have it for domestic flights but enforce it for international flights, and when it is rampaging in the country any way. You say to keep out variants? How well did that work for you with omicron? This is beyond sensible containment policy now. It's infringing on people's rights with no reasonable cause. Instead just asking people not to travel while sick and (giving them a free switch option) and staying with temperature checks and masking on aeroplanes is the better approach.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2649471]When the return testing interval was 72 hrs. I landed on Thursday, have a cita, do my test Friday morning, go about my business Friday, Saturday and Sunday morning and board Sunday afternoon for a flight back home. Now 24 hrs and a highly infectious variant rampaging through makes it more risky to get stuck in quarantine. What's insane is the inconsistency from the CDC. If you are a health worker and we need you, you can return to work with sick and vulnerable patients 5 days or even earlier if you are asymptomatic and without even testing. However if you are an international traveler, it is minimum 10 days to 2 weeks of quarantine with testing and all that crap. I try to respect these agencies but they are not covering themselves in glory with these mixed messages. I think the travel testing should be repealed at this point. What is the point when you don't have it for domestic flights but enforce it for international flights, and when it is rampaging in the country any way. You say to keep out variants? How well did that work for you with omicron? This is beyond sensible containment policy now. It's infringing on people's rights with no reasonable cause. Instead just asking people not to travel while sick and (giving them a free switch option) and staying with temperature checks and masking on aeroplanes is the better approach.[/QUOTE]Very well said, true shit! Very good points! Makes lots of sense.

I just got a friend request from this chica but she is not my type at all so I am not biting. I was looking at her photos and though I would share one to demonstrate that centro girls are also giving Facebook a go. I bet the question is what she charges when she is messaged compared to when you see her in the area this photo was taken. I do not need to tell anyone who has been in the area where it was taken.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2649488]I just got a friend request from this chica but she is not my type at all so I am not biting. I was looking at her photos and though I would share one to demonstrate that centro girls are also giving Facebook a go. I bet the question is what she charges when she is messaged compared to when you see her in the area this photo was taken. I do not need to tell anyone who has been in the area where it was taken.[/QUOTE]Are you sure that one is a girl? Looks questionable to me.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2649471]When the return testing interval was 72 hrs. I landed on Thursday, have a cita, do my test Friday morning, go about my business Friday, Saturday and Sunday morning and board Sunday afternoon for a flight back home. Now 24 hrs and a highly infectious variant rampaging through makes it more risky to get stuck in quarantine. What's insane is the inconsistency from the CDC. If you are a health worker and we need you, you can return to work with sick and vulnerable patients 5 days or even earlier if you are asymptomatic and without even testing. However if you are an international traveler, it is minimum 10 days to 2 weeks of quarantine with testing and all that crap. I try to respect these agencies but they are not covering themselves in glory with these mixed messages. I think the travel testing should be repealed at this point. What is the point when you don't have it for domestic flights but enforce it for international flights, and when it is rampaging in the country any way. You say to keep out variants? How well did that work for you with omicron? This is beyond sensible containment policy now. It's infringing on people's rights with no reasonable cause. Instead just asking people not to travel while sick and (giving them a free switch option) and staying with temperature checks and masking on aeroplanes is the better approach.[/QUOTE]I don't set policy. Whether a policy makes perfect sense, or is batshit crazy doesn't matter, from the standpoint of being stuck in quarantine in another country. It might be a stupid rule, but it doesn't change how it affects you if you test positive.

This fits in well with a broader subject. It does no good to complain about things you can't change. Almost everything that guys complain about on this thread falls into the "you can't change it" category.

It's more effective and productive to figure out how to work with the problems.

Did the promised meal today. Delish. 4 bedroom, 1 bath apartment. Rent 500.000 mil COP per month or $124 USD plus utilities which are less than the rent. Dog purebred Husky. Didi ride from El Centro to Castilla less than 10 mil COP or $2.50 USD for what would have easily been a twenty-five dollar taxi ride in the USA. Food was tasty. Four different kinds of animal protein if you include the egg. Grandma did the cooking and ate last. The girls wanted to leave with me and go back to my hotel. Call me old-fashioned but I told them it would be better if we did not leave together in front of their mom and grandmother, and we hooked up several hours later. The giant pendulum over the highway is an earthquake detector, the Didi driver did not know that.

Shot from my hotel window at The Nutti.

Since I last reported I've spent a lot of my time with A including a weekend trip to Cartagena. I've also seen a girl I met last trip from New Life and one more pro from Facebook.

In terms of A, she's not a pro. She has implants as per Turgid's question and is about to do some more surgery (abdominal to gluteal fat transplant). I've paid taxis and paid our expenses in Cartagena but she never asked and I never offered her anything for her time. So I'm not sharing any info on her. She is in the camming world and you might be able to find her there. On balance she's been a lot of fun and the sex is great but as with any girlfriend you have ups and downs. Her family made a lot of drama around her going to Cartagena with me, which upset her at times. So it wasn't all fucking and rainbows. She did lots of little things like shaving me and folding / ironing clothes that were nice signs of affection.

The other issue that you have to deal with with the semi / nonpros that I'd mention is getting them to leave / dealing with more drama. This was the case with the 2nd girl I saw V. She was messaging me nonstop after I saw her and upset when I didn't answer. I had to finally tell her to leave me alone, which is never fun for me at least.

Beyond that, I ended up seeing the girl from New Life on Thursday. I took her out to lunch and had some drinks with her but didn't do anything. She'd gained weight over the pandemic and I was exhausted from staying up all night with A. We talked a bunch on whatsapp since my last trip and I consider her a friend so I had no issues with that.

On Friday I saw my only pro of the trip so far Sara. I'll leave some more details for those of you in the know so you can find her. She's a spinner type, lighter skin with her bangs dyed blonde and she has a picture of a sparkly dress. I'd recommend her as far as pros go. She came over for about 3 hours for 200 k. Had sex with her once for around 20 minutes and she did oral uncovered well, 69 and we had covered sex in multiple positions. She seemed to get into it and told me she enjoyed afterwards. We hung out for the rest of the time had some drinks and talked. She's a cool girl and was fun to talk to. Also hinted to me that she'd be willing to hang out (possibly free) in the future.

That being said, for me at least there is no comparison between the pro and the semi / nonpro experience. The sex is just more passionate (taking into consideration past experience too). Both A and the first girl I saw see fucked me to exhaustion and kept coming back for more. It's harder to find that with a true pro or you need to pay more beforehand. I hinted about a second round to Sara, for example, but she didn't take the bait.

Bros. I haven't been to Medellin since 2011. Is there a guest friendly hotel in poblado? Thanks!

[QUOTE=BrotherP;2649623]Bros. I haven't been to Medellin since 2011. Is there a guest friendly hotel in poblado? Thanks![/QUOTE]Those things change from time to time. Only way to know is to ask when you book.

[QUOTE=BrotherP;2649623]Bros. I haven't been to Medellin since 2011. Is there a guest friendly hotel in poblado? Thanks![/QUOTE]Hotel Haven.

They're fucking you too exhaustion because they're looking for the big payout once they find that they're not going to get it they will truly fuck
Because the truth is you really have no long-term interest in these girls you just using them....

I'm sure you've told him exactly who you are gave them your phone number and all the rest.... I wouldn't want to get on the bad side of a girl down in Colombia. And if you think just because you don't pay them that they're not going to drug you later on .....

[QUOTE=Recondite;2649622]Since I last
reported I've spent a lot of my time with A including a weekend trip to Cartagena. I've also seen a girl I met last trip from New Life and one more pro from Facebook.

In terms of A, she's not a pro. She has implants as per Turgid's question and is about to do some more surgery (abdominal to gluteal fat transplant). I've paid taxis and paid our expenses in Cartagena but she never asked and I never offered her anything for her time. So I'm not sharing any info on her. She is in the camming world and you might be able to find her there. On balance she's been a lot of fun and the sex is great but as with any girlfriend you have ups and downs. Her family made a lot of drama around her going to Cartagena with me, which upset her at times. So it wasn't all fucking and rainbows. She did lots of little things like shaving me and folding / ironing clothes that were nice signs of affection.

The other issue that you have to deal with with the semi / nonpros that I'd mention is getting them to leave / dealing with more drama. This was the case with the 2nd girl I saw V. She was messaging me nonstop after I saw her and upset when I didn't answer. I had to finally tell her to leave me alone, which is never fun for me at least.

Beyond that, I ended up seeing the girl from New Life on Thursday. I took her out to lunch and had some drinks with her but didn't do anything. She'd gained weight over the pandemic and I was exhausted from staying up all night with A. We talked a bunch on whatsapp since my last trip and I consider her a friend so I had no issues with that.

On Friday I saw my only pro of the trip so far Sara. I'll leave some more details for those of you in the know so you can find her. She's a spinner type, lighter skin with her bangs dyed blonde and she has a picture of a sparkly dress. I'd recommend her as far as pros go. She came over for about 3 hours for 200 k. Had sex with her once for around 20 minutes and she did oral uncovered well, 69 and we had covered sex in multiple positions. She seemed to get into it and told me she enjoyed afterwards. We hung out for the rest of the time had some drinks and talked. She's a cool girl and was fun to talk to. Also hinted to me that she'd be willing to hang out (possibly free) in the future.

That being said, for me at least there is no comparison between the pro and the semi / nonpro experience. The sex is just more passionate (taking into consideration past experience too). Both A and the first girl I saw see fucked me to exhaustion and kept coming back for more. It's harder to find that with a true pro or you need to pay more beforehand. I hinted about a second round to Sara, for example, but she didn't take the bait.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Recondite;2649622]In terms of A, she's not a pro. She has implants as per Turgid's question and is about to do some more surgery (abdominal to gluteal fat transplant). Her family made a lot of drama around her going to Cartagena with me,[/QUOTE]So her family made drama about her going to Cartagena with you, but did not make drama about her fucking her body up or however she is getting the money to fuck her body up? Unless they figure regular jobs are paying enough now-a-days for all of these surgeries.

They were bugging her about shit she didn't do before we left and about childcare stuff more than being with me per se. I think her family is fine with her work and the surgeries due to the income stream for them. From what she told me she helps support her dad from the camming. Seems like a typical story for women from poorer families involved in different types of sex work globally. I'm under no illusions she's a princess or a potential wife.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2649735]So her family made drama about her going to Cartagena with you, but did not make drama about her fucking her body up or however she is getting the money to fuck her body up? Unless they figure regular jobs are paying enough now-a-days for all of these surgeries.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2648237]What are these websites in Thailand that you are mentioning about that are free?[/QUOTE]Two of the larger ones are [URL]https://www.sidelinethailand.com/[/URL] and [URL]https://www.fiwfans.com/[/URL].

Used by real sideliners and pros alike.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2649367]this is a site for mongers. It's not a dating site..... Most people on this site are seeking arrangement or tender or looking for hookers not girlfriends[/QUOTE]Most guys here are looking for a girlfriend. Most can't get a decent woman to even acknowledge them consistently if at all back where they live. So the first slightly above average (let's face it Most girls around are not smoke shows you see on front page magazines) woman that gives them a little bit of affection they end up falling for. My source: the long line of girls picking up western union checks among other things. Some are here for straight sex. Some low key east to live out the fantasy they wished they lived back when they were younger and none of the attractive girls their age gave them any action.

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2649108]When demand got high she had to raise prices in her mind. But there are probably lurkers on here that already booked and agreed to the price.[/QUOTE]Yah the demand must be super high. If she raises her price because she got plenty of s1 mps paying that then all the power to her. I just find it real ironic she called me dirty because I fuck girls for 200 k when she used to be one of those girls. She has a bad attitude whether that has changed from how she was before or maybe that's how she has always been. Good luck to any guy thinking they are going to actually get that same type of service the guy who posted that review got. Hope y'all hey what you paid for. I would hate to pay 500 mil with every girl then regret the experience. Her response to that was she don't care. The whole exchange with her was not appealing in the slightest to make someone want to meet her let alone actually spend that type of dough on her regardless of how much money you have. At least if you have some principle. Way too many options out here. Take the time and build up a rotation of quality girls then have them introduce you to their friends. Rinse and repeat. No need to get on a plane and fly to another country to deal with the same entitled BS you get back in the west.

We are all taking a lot of risks by talking to random people on facebook / the internet and having sex pro or nonpro. If you don't want to risk getting drugged, robbed, scammed, getting an std or getting your feelings hurt, stay home and jerk off. I've tried to be as honest as possible with all these girls I've told them what I am looking for in our interactions. I also try to be careful about hiding stuff that's valuable, guarding my drink and staying in places with security etc. These are all things other members talk about to mitigate risk.

Bad shit does happen but a lot of other mongers here and visitors have developed longer term nontraditional relations with girls (I. E. Slapshot, osteonot, tallman etc). My impression is that with time it's not that hard to develop those friendships and relationships. The ultimate outcome all depends a mix of luck, our own interpersonal skills, ability to detect BS, and no dar papaya. Of course there is also usually a price to pay for nonpros in dates, baby sitters, taxis, trips and beyond. That said I'll stop talking to A or any girl the minute they start asking me for money when I'm back home.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2649718]They're fucking you too exhaustion because they're looking for the big payout once they find that they're not going to get it they will truly fuck
Because the truth is you really have no long-term interest in these girls you just using them....

I'm sure you've told him exactly who you are gave them your phone number and all the rest.... I wouldn't want to get on the bad side of a girl down in Colombia. And if you think just because you don't pay them that they're not going to drug you later on .....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2649514]Are you sure that one is a girl? Looks questionable to me.[/QUOTE]You make a good point: but for the record I did say "not my type" LOL. Judging from other photos of this person if you put a gun to my head I would guess it was a female. I even felt like that was her worst photo but since the point of the photo was to draw attention to the location where the photo was taken I didn't think to post other photos of the chica. But like I said she is not my type and you would have to put a gun to my head to make me swear it was a female LOL

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2649519]I don't set policy. Whether a policy makes perfect sense, or is batshit crazy doesn't matter, from the standpoint of being stuck in quarantine in another country. It might be a stupid rule, but it doesn't change how it affects you if you test positive.

This fits in well with a broader subject. It does no good to complain about things you can't change. Almost everything that guys complain about on this thread falls into the "you can't change it" category.

It's more effective and productive to figure out how to work with the problems.[/QUOTE]I just tested positive for covid and my flight to BOG was this Saturday. Had to cancel, luckily AA easily allowed me to reschedule. Had to cancel a flight to Ecuador with avianca. That's another story.

[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2649843]I just tested positive for covid and my flight to BOG was this Saturday. Had to cancel, luckily AA easily allowed me to reschedule. Had to cancel a flight to Ecuador with avianca. That's another story.[/QUOTE]Is the quarantine 10 days or 14 now?

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2649776]Most guys here are looking for a girlfriend. Most can't get a decent woman to even acknowledge them consistently if at all back where they live. So the first slightly above average (let's face it Most girls around are not smoke shows you see on front page magazines) woman that gives them a little bit of affection they end up falling for. My source: the long line of girls picking up western union checks among other things. Some are here for straight sex. Some low key east to live out the fantasy they wished they lived back when they were younger and none of the attractive girls their age gave them any action.[/QUOTE]Most guys here probably aren't looking for a girlfriend, at least those who post. It's pretty obvious. Anyone, without ever leaving their home, can find a girlfriend in Medellin in less than 1 hour. Certainly anyone who has more than 1 visit to Medellin has plenty of women who would be thrilled to hop into the novia role.

Whether they can get a woman back home doesn't matter. Whether they were balling the head cheerleader in school, or didn't get laid until they were 35 doesn't matter. What matters, at least on this thread, is can they find what they are looking for in Medellin?

Telling everyone they are failures, if they go to Medellin to get laid (especially if you go to Medellin to get laid) doesn't help anyone.

[QUOTE=Recondite;2649779]We are all taking a lot of risks by talking to random people on facebook / the internet and having sex pro or nonpro. If you don't want to risk getting drugged, robbed, scammed, getting an std or getting your feelings hurt, stay home and jerk off. I've tried to be as honest as possible with all these girls I've told them what I am looking for in our interactions. I also try to be careful about hiding stuff that's valuable, guarding my drink and staying in places with security etc. These are all things other members talk about to mitigate risk.

Bad shit does happen but a lot of other mongers here and visitors have developed longer term nontraditional relations with girls (I. E. Slapshot, osteonot, tallman etc). My impression is that with time it's not that hard to develop those friendships and relationships. The ultimate outcome all depends a mix of luck, our own interpersonal skills, ability to detect BS, and no dar papaya. Of course there is also usually a price to pay for nonpros in dates, baby sitters, taxis, trips and beyond. That said I'll stop talking to A or any girl the minute they start asking me for money when I'm back home.[/QUOTE]No matter what you do, or how you do it, someone is going to tell you you're doing it wrong. You could be bedding supermodels for the price of a taxi and someone will have a problem with it.

It sounds like you're enjoying yourself. If what you're doing is working for you, keep doing it.

I'm assuming you mean Medellin, not the International Sex Guide which is for men who pay for sex. ? As far as being a good looking guy back home I don't think that has to do with anything. I see plenty of beautiful women here who go out with average looking men.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2649776]Most guys here are looking for a girlfriend. Most can't get a decent woman to even acknowledge them consistently if at all back where they live. So the first slightly above average (let's face it Most girls around are not smoke shows you see on front page magazines) woman that gives them a little bit of affection they end up falling for. My source: the long line of girls picking up western union checks among other things. Some are here for straight sex. Some low key east to live out the fantasy they wished they lived back when they were younger and none of the attractive girls their age gave them any action.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2649519]I don't set policy. Whether a policy makes perfect sense, or is batshit crazy doesn't matter, from the standpoint of being stuck in quarantine in another country. It might be a stupid rule, but it doesn't change how it affects you if you test positive.

This fits in well with a broader subject. It does no good to complain about things you can't change. Almost everything that guys complain about on this thread falls into the "you can't change it" category.

It's more effective and productive to figure out how to work with the problems.[/QUOTE]Point taken. But it might also offer insight to those with a big gubberment proclivity why so many folks have such low trust in their actions. It's not illogical.

That aside, knowing these rules also offers one the ability to best work around them legally. If I take a couple of home test kits with me, and test positive, then do the right thing and extend my stay in a hotel room in isolation by a few days and self quarantine and then on the 5th day, I am asymptomatic and test negative, I can board the plane with an n-95 and negative test and I have broken no rules nor harmed anyone. I have also saved 5-9 days of wasteful time stuck due to idiotic policy. That's not such an outlandish outcome for a younger healthier person who is double vaxed and boosted.

The 10 or 14 days is arbitrary, and discriminatory and against international travel and currently achieving no purpose other than hurting the battered tourism and hospitality industry.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2649861]I'm assuming you mean Medellin, not the International Sex Guide which is for men who pay for sex. ? [/QUOTE]That is maybe partially correct.

"What is the purpose of this Forum?

The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. ".

[QUOTE=Kafka;2649861]I'm assuming you mean Medellin, not the International Sex Guide which is for men who pay for sex. ? As far as being a good looking guy back home I don't think that has to do with anything. I see plenty of beautiful women here who go out with average looking men.[/QUOTE]Bobcat Goldthwait, not the world's most attractive man used to date Courtney Cox. Lyle Lovett was formerly married to Julia Roberts. If you're talking about dating within your peer group, there are many different factors beyond appearance.

When it comes to paying for sex, none of that matters. It doesn't matter how ugly your feet are, or how well you can dance when you go into a shoe store. You're buying shoes, they're selling shoes.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2649869]Point taken. But it might also offer insight to those with a big gubberment proclivity why so many folks have such low trust in their actions. It's not illogical.

That aside, knowing these rules also offers one the ability to best work around them legally. If I take a couple of home test kits with me, and test positive, then do the right thing and extend my stay in a hotel room in isolation by a few days and self quarantine and then on the 5th day, I am asymptomatic and test negative, I can board the plane with an n-95 and negative test and I have broken no rules nor harmed anyone. I have also saved 5-9 days of wasteful time stuck due to idiotic policy. That's not such an outlandish outcome for a younger healthier person who is double vaxed and boosted.

The 10 or 14 days is arbitrary, and discriminatory and against international travel and currently achieving no purpose other than hurting the battered tourism and hospitality industry.[/QUOTE]Knowing the rules and how they can be used to your advantage is important. I do that type of thing every day.

If I was going for a trip of under 2 weeks, I would get tested before the trip, even though it's not required. Although personally, I won't take a trip out of the country until after omicron settles down. Whether 5 days or 14, I don't want to do the quarantine again.

Good luck testing negative after 5 days. Studies show people testing positive for months after being infected.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2649869]Point taken. But it might also offer insight to those with a big gubberment proclivity why so many folks have such low trust in their actions. It's not illogical.

That aside, knowing these rules also offers one the ability to best work around them legally. If I take a couple of home test kits with me, and test positive, then do the right thing and extend my stay in a hotel room in isolation by a few days and self quarantine and then on the 5th day, I am asymptomatic and test negative, I can board the plane with an n-95 and negative test and I have broken no rules nor harmed anyone. I have also saved 5-9 days of wasteful time stuck due to idiotic policy. That's not such an outlandish outcome for a younger healthier person who is double vaxed and boosted.

The 10 or 14 days is arbitrary, and discriminatory and against international travel and currently achieving no purpose other than hurting the battered tourism and hospitality industry.[/QUOTE]

Is it really that dead this week?

I know someone posted to avoid this week but this is the only week I have off until the summer.

Just wondering how bad it is during this time for those that have been there at this time.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=InsolentSpike;2649880]Is it really that dead this week?

I know someone posted to avoid this week but this is the only week I have off until the summer.

Just wondering how bad it is during this time for those that have been there at this time.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I've been in MDE during Semana Santa. It will be ok through Wednesday afternoon. From Wed night through Sat afternoon, you better have girls you've already been with lined up or it will be slim. Saturday and Sunday a bit better.

[QUOTE=Combo;2649885]I've been in MDE during Semana Santa. It will be ok through Wednesday afternoon. From Wed night through Sat afternoon, you better have girls you've already been with lined up or it will be slim. Saturday and Sunday a bit better.[/QUOTE]Thank you brother. I might pull the trigger just want to make sure. Appreciate it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2649872]That is maybe partially correct.

"What is the purpose of this Forum?

The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women..[/QUOTE]I think if you add in the tag line "Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac" the pay for sex angle is pretty obvious.

Right here's some information to share with you, the easiest way to have sex women is to pay for it. Which is what 99% of the men on this site do...

"Money is the worlds greatest aphrodisiac'.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2649872]That is maybe partially correct.

"What is the purpose of this Forum?

The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. ".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kafka;2649923]Right here's some information to share with you, the easiest way to have sex women is to pay for it. Which is what 99% of the men on this site do...

"Money is the worlds greatest aphrodisiac'.[/QUOTE]That does not say giving out money is the aphrodisiac. Just someone believing you have money has that effect. I am sure you have seen the videos of a guy trying to talk to a chick and she won't give him any play, but as soon as she sees him climbing into an expensive car or whatever her tune changes.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2649471]When the return testing interval was 72 hrs. I landed on Thursday, have a cita, do my test Friday morning, go about my business Friday, Saturday and Sunday morning and board Sunday afternoon for a flight back home. Now 24 hrs and a highly infectious variant rampaging through makes it more risky to get stuck in quarantine. What's insane is the inconsistency from the CDC. If you are a health worker and we need you, you can return to work with sick and vulnerable patients 5 days or even earlier if you are asymptomatic and without even testing. However if you are an international traveler, it is minimum 10 days to 2 weeks of quarantine with testing and all that crap. I try to respect these agencies but they are not covering themselves in glory with these mixed messages. I think the travel testing should be repealed at this point. What is the point when you don't have it for domestic flights but enforce it for international flights, and when it is rampaging in the country any way. You say to keep out variants? How well did that work for you with omicron? This is beyond sensible containment policy now. It's infringing on people's rights with no reasonable cause. Instead just asking people not to travel while sick and (giving them a free switch option) and staying with temperature checks and masking on aeroplanes is the better approach.[/QUOTE]You're still good if you are fully vaccinated for the 72 hour rule thr 24 hours only applies to non vaccinated international tourists.

[QUOTE=Gbaby32;2650007]You're still good if you are fully vaccinated for the 72 hour rule thr 24 hours only applies to non vaccinated international tourists.[/QUOTE]I don't think you are correct about this ([URL]https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/ea/requirements-for-air-travelers-to-the-us.html[/URL]).

(Caveat: I'm only responding to this post and haven't followed any posting history).

COVID-19 Travel.

December 30,2021 New Requirements for Air Travelers to the USA.

Updated Pre-departure Testing Requirements for Air Travelers to the USA.

Starting on December 6, air travelers aged two and older, regardless of nationality or vaccination status, are required to show documentation of a negative viral test result taken within one day of the flight's departure to the United States before boarding. You must show your negative result to the airline before you board your flight. That includes all travelers – USA Citizens, lawful permanent residents (LPRs), and foreign nationals.

If you recently recovered from COVID-19, you may instead travel with documentation of recovery from COVID-19 (I. E. , your positive COVID-19 viral test result on a sample taken no more than 90 days before the flight's departure from a foreign country, and a letter from a licensed healthcare provider or a public health official stating that you were cleared to travel).

Exemptions will be considered on an extremely limited basis. Please visit the CDC for more information about exemptions and the requirement for proof of negative COVID-19 test or recovery from COVID-19, including types of accepted tests for all air passengers arriving in the United States.

Please see the CDC website for further information on the Omicron Variant.

CDC Order.

The CDC recommends that you do not travel internationally until you are fully vaccinated. International travel poses additional risks, and even fully vaccinated travelers might be at increased risk for getting and possibly spreading some COVID-19 variants. Delay travel and stay home to protect yourself and others from COVID-19. If you do travel, follow all CDC recommendations before, during, and after travel.

USA Citizens who choose to travel internationally should be aware that they may face unexpected challenges related to COVID-19 as they attempt return to the United States or attempt to travel from one overseas destination to another. If you choose to travel internationally, be sure to make contingency plans, as you may find yourself having to remain in a foreign country longer than originally planned.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Order, which took effect November 8, 2021, requiring all non-immigrant, non-citizen air travelers to the United States to be fully vaccinated and to provide proof of vaccination status prior to boarding an airplane to the United States remains in effect. Travelers should monitor the CDC website on international travel for the latest guidance regarding testing requirements.

Exceptions to the CDC Order requiring all air passengers to be fully vaccinated and to provide proof of vaccination status prior to boarding an airplane to the United States are extremely limited to the following groups:

Children under 18.

People medically unable to receive the vaccine.

Emergency travelers who do not have timely access to a vaccine.

Humanitarian exemptions to the CDC order are granted on an extremely limited basis.

For additional information, please visit our FAQs for answers to questions about the requirement for proof of negative COVID-19 test or recovery from COVID-19 for all air passengers arriving in the United States.

[QUOTE=Gbaby32;2650007]You're still good if you are fully vaccinated for the 72 hour rule thr 24 hours only applies to non vaccinated international tourists.[/QUOTE]That's wrong. Whether or not you are vaccinated, you have to test 1 day before travel back to the US.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Gbaby32;2650007]You're still good if you are fully vaccinated for the 72 hour rule thr 24 hours only applies to non vaccinated international tourists.[/QUOTE]Nope as of 12/6/21 everyone over 2 yrs regardless of nationality or vaccination status has to have a neg. Test within 24 hrs of travel.

[QUOTE=Robhar74;2649879]Good luck testing negative after 5 days. Studies show people testing positive for months after being infected.[/QUOTE]Plenty of such examples especially as I said in the young and double vaxed and boosted groups especially with omicron. Worst case, you recovered but keep testing positive you take the default option the way JJbee did. No downside, only upside. I will take that every time.

LOL. I pay them to leave.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2649909]I think if you add in the tag line "Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac" the pay for sex angle is pretty obvious.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2650212]Nope as of 12/6/21 everyone over 2 yrs regardless of nationality or vaccination status has to have a neg. Test within 24 hrs of travel.[/QUOTE]Colombia's Ministry of Health announced, effective December 14,2021, new entry requirements for all travelers 18 years and older arriving to Colombia by air.

For non-resident foreign travelers 18 years and older:

Vaccinated non-resident foreign travelers must present proof they have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19 for at least 14 days prior to travel.

If less than 14 days have elapsed or if the vaccination scheme is not complete, the traveler must present a PCR test with a negative result taken within 72 hours of boarding.

Unvaccinated non-resident foreign travelers will not be allowed to enter Colombia.

How easy are we able to get test done in Medellin?

I have a short stay plan in Medellin and want to make sure I have time to get PCR test done to get back to USA.

[QUOTE=Butch145;2650254]How easy are we able to get test done in Medellin?

I have a short stay plan in Medellin and want to make sure I have time to get PCR test done to get back to USA.[/QUOTE]+57 314 643 7513 - they do domicilio to your apartment, hotel, or even the local sports bar.

Or, show up an hour early at the airport. Far end on the Arrivals level, across the street from the entrance. Cash only (I forget the price but I think if you have 100 k you'll be good. I'm sure there's info online or WhatsApp message them: +57 312 708 0839).

Last night was my final night in Medellin and I had a hell of a time with one more prepago in denial discovery M. Before that I was talking to the prepago girl I saw Sara to see if I could get her to come for free like she'd suggested. It ended up being a waste of time and I started contacting others. The one that came through for me was M, who had an interesting look in her pictures. She has hazel eyes and light brown hair. She did not mention money when I was talking to her until I asked "que necesitas para movilizarse. Necesitas algo por taxis why la niñera. She hesitated and after a while quoted 200 k. That's standard fare though I saved the price of taxis. She is 23 and has a daughter. She had some flaws, when she showed up, mainly some slight sag in her tits and a few too many tattoos for me taste. However she has a cute face and her personality more than made up for any issues. I'd call her a flower child type, smoked pot (though not with me), she loves non mainstream Spanish music and music in English, and she is a bit alternative generally. That was refreshing as literally every other girl I met told me they loved Carol G and wanted to listen to reggaeton. Like with A I teased her and joked around a lot in Spanish to break the ice. Once we got to the bedroom / sex she turned out to be another freak. She insisted on blowing me including in 69 until I came in her mouth. We took a good 40 minute break where we listened to 80's rock and other music and talked. Then she fucked me to exhaustion in round 2. We started with covered sex but she ended up taking off the condom midway through. I ended things by getting on her chest and cumming all over her face and neck. In total she spent around 3 hours with me and left telling me she wished she could have staid the night.

After my experiences I have some concluding thoughts for those that want to take the same route I did. 1) a big Facebook list is the key to this approach if nothing else it helps you avoid the girls asking for 300 or 400 k. 2) Never ask them about prices directly. Either let them tell you or ask them about their expenses. I think letting them tell themselves they are not prepagos gives you a better experience. Also there are some nonpros that might like you and you don't want to screw that up. 3) A lot of them are moms and you will have to deal with issues around that especially if you get to know them better. 4) there is always price but I got better prices and values by taking that tack that I did. 5) Most of these girls including the innocent looking ones show up knowing they will probably get fucked by you. I tried to take a more subtle approach with the girl / s I though were nonpro but that didn't seem to matter. 6) My fluency and game in Spanish probably helped me a lot. So learn Spanish if you haven't already. 7) If they like you, a lot of them don't want to use protection, keep that in mind and prepare yourself.

Anyway I'm out for now. My ranking of the girls I saw would be A, M, see, Sara and then V. I'm planning on seeing A and M again when I'm back in town.

[QUOTE=Queens35;2650211]That's wrong. Whether or not you are vaccinated, you have to test 1 day before travel back to the US.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html[/URL][/QUOTE]One post talking about requirements to enter Colombia, the other about entering the US. And then arguing about it.

To put it simply, if you are a tourist you need to be fully vaccinated to enter Colombia.

To put it simply, to go back to the US you need to have a test within 1 day before flying, and if you are not a resident or citizen of US you also have to be fully vaccinated.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2650318]+57 314 643 7513 - they do domicilio to your apartment, hotel, or even the local sports bar.

Or, show up an hour early at the airport. Far end on the Arrivals level, across the street from the entrance. Cash only (I forget the price but I think if you have 100 k you'll be good. I'm sure there's info online or WhatsApp message them: +57 312 708 0839).[/QUOTE]If he really wants the PCR test I don't think he will be able to get results in time. The antigen test is the quick one.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2649004]Did she happen to mention what she does do?[/QUOTE]There was no mention of sex on my part or her part. I merely texted her my travel plans and she responded with her price filter.

[QUOTE=ManchesterCat;2649283]The following few days, she was busy, so I made plans with a member of the forum who showed me all the spots. We did a run through the casas during the day, and then the strip clubs and the mansion the following night, which exceeded my expectations. [/QUOTE]Which strip clubs are recommended at night? One of the few downsides of the great work on the map is the lack of differentiation of the offerings.

Also, what are the prime hours for someone to go to the mansion that is not staying there?

[QUOTE=Cm6363;2650353]Which strip clubs are recommended at night? One of the few downsides of the great work on the map is the lack of differentiation of the offerings.

Also, what are the prime hours for someone to go to the mansion that is not staying there?[/QUOTE]Mansion bar 10 pm til midnight or 1 am, strip clubs Fase Dos and laIsla are the 2 higher end ones.

I was in Medellin in December. My friend and I were walk near the park Lleras around 8 pm. My friend spotted a girl sitting in park and started talking to her. She was normal looking girl (non wsw). She was not carrying typical handbag nor wearing exposing cloths. She told us she is waiting for her brother who works at the bar opposite to the park. She told she is a tour guide. We made a friendship and went to near by bar and had couple of bears. After chatting for and hour and half we dropped her to the park and went our ways to the Airbnb. We exchanged the number and she promised to show us Medellin around. Next day at 11 AM she came with a taxi and we went to see plaza Botero, Botanical Garden and Pueblito Paisa. So far everything was charming and nice. We told her we want to have authentic Paisa lunch so she took us at one of the expensive pllace near Poblado, Restaurante Malevo. After nice lunch we separated. In the evening around 8/9 pm she started texting like a girl friend and asked why are we not meeting again. She is waiting at the park. I was busy with other girl so I ignored her. Anyhow she was not interested in fun. I was only interested in banging a nice chic but she was like I am not that kind of person. A Girl with dignity. Anyway, later I met her, around 10 pm and this time she was totally changed and came up with an amazing story. She told she was kicked out of her home and she needs money. Immediately I understood that she is a working girl but she was weird. She should have told us in the beginning. I told her I can give her money since her price was way high. I told I can only buy you food. She bought sooshi and we set at other park. She ate there. Since I didn't give her money she left. But where to? At the park Lleras. Lleras is the park where working woman hangs out. She was a working girl but acting like a normal girl. I wonder why would she do that.

If you have had this experience how did you spend your time in quarantine before you were able to test negative and go back home?

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2650212]Nope as of 12/6/21 everyone over 2 yrs regardless of nationality or vaccination status has to have a neg. Test within 24 hrs of travel.[/QUOTE]Correction:

The test is required within 1 day, not 24 hours. If you are returning on Friday your test must be on either Thursday or Friday. So, if you're flying at 10 pm you could get tested starting at 12:01 am the day before, up to about an hour before departure.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2650432]If you have had this experience how did you spend your time in quarantine before you were able to test negative and go back home?[/QUOTE]A state, period, or place of isolation.

[QUOTE=ScottyMarky;2650384]I She was a working girl but acting like a normal girl. I wonder why would she do that.[/QUOTE]I doubt all the psychologist and psychiatrist in the world can explain why some of these girls do what they do. Some of them are just batshit crazy. But you have to accept it there's no one standard guide or model of a working girl. There are the part-time girls who may go on dates 2-3 times a year and girls who will do dates for money 5 times a week. I know girls that used to be working girls and now they sell stuff on the internet, or they've opened up a fans-only page, or they try to turn themselves into tour guides. Also only a fraction of the girls in Parque Lleras are working, there is every type of girl there so just because she was there does not mean she was a working girl

Could be at the beginning of the day she wanted to be a tour guide by the end of the day she wanted to make money anyway she could. One thing about these girls is it they have a track record for coming up with these awful stories that are so sad. And maybe even one out of ten of them are true, I certainly wouldn't take it personal when they lie to me it's like second nature to them. all in all your weird experience wasn't that weird at all for Medellin

I was positive for covid a week ago and I am waiting for the result of my new test.

I am not symptomatic anymore, and I would like to reschedule another flight to Colombia ASAP.

However on the check mig site it asks: " were you sick within 14 days?" and then "were you diagnosed with covid within 14 days?

I called american airlines and researched on the internet but did not find an answer.

Can Colombia deny you entry if you had covid within 14 days, even with no more symptoms, 3 vaccine shots and a negative covid test?

[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2650455]Can Colombia deny you entry if you had covid within 14 days, even with no more symptoms, 3 vaccine shots and a negative covid test?[/QUOTE]Yes it could, but not if you don't tell them.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2649851]Is the quarantine 10 days or 14 now?[/QUOTE]The isolation is five days in the US; I am not sure in Colombia.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2649830]You make a good point: but for the record I did say "not my type" LOL. Judging from other photos of this person if you put a gun to my head I would guess it was a female. I even felt like that was her worst photo but since the point of the photo was to draw attention to the location where the photo was taken I didn't think to post other photos of the chica. But like I said she is not my type and you would have to put a gun to my head to make me swear it was a female LOL[/QUOTE]To help ease your mind she is 100% woman. I have known her for over 4 years as my Colombian buddy and she were "a thing" for about one year and so I have been with them both in the same hotel room, along with another few chicas as we had a mini-orgy of sorts.

This was more than 4 years ago and since then she has gained weight and is even more pro.

But I recall the first time that my buddy introduced her and my very first thought was. "is she a he", hehehehehe.

The Tall Man.

I saw a recent post here from a fellow mongerer about chicas and mirrors. In less than 4 minutes I scanned my fotos and came up with these. The girls were with me in all but two of the fotos, which were sent to me.

Not only should you embrace the mirror culture here, if you don't have a decent full length mirror in your room, go to the Dollar Store and buy one for less than ten bucks. ROI (Return On Investment)? Priceless. Jeje. The hotel should hang it for you for free, especially after you tell the girl at the reception desk she can keep it as a gift from you when you leave. Don't forget to fuck her, too, but not in the hotel where she works.

And if you don't have decent music in your room (laptop computers don't count, jeje) buy a Blue Tooth speaker here for $10-15 USD and use it. The effect with the mirror is synergistic. Add some pink shit and a little weed (I don't smoke but tell the girls you'll buy them a blunt, costs less the $5 USD and they will bring it with them or a taxi driver they know will deliver it). Provide some beers, by far the most popular brand with the chicas here is Corona and amazingly they usually don't give a shite if they are cold are not, in fact some of my chicas prefer their beer at room temperature. I know, weird. Like the mirrors, it's cultural. If you have attention to detail, cut up a lime (called "limons" here, but they are limes) for the Coronas. A few cheap snacks, they love flavored papitas or potato chips in individual bags.

Now you got yourself a party and trust me, the chicas love it. They will be dancing in their panties while they stare at themselves in the mirror before you know it. The rest is up to you. A happy chica is a well-performing chica. A happy chica always wants to come back and will message you regularly asking to do so. Then you just sit back and take your pick. Ask them to bring their friends. You can screen fotos of their friends first if you want but they know how to make the fotos look better than they really are. Wash, rinse, repeat.

It's too easy, anyone can do it. It's not expensive for what you get and you can scale it back if you are on a budget. Definitely the most expensive item is the pink (or blue, or purple, or yellow) shit and you can skip that if you want but the ROI on it is exponential. One of the best parties I ever had in my life was in a hotel room smaller than my master closet at home, cost $11 USD per night, no window, fuckin' sweat box, with 3 chicas, and we had the time of our lives. You can go 'high end" like SlapShot and have a nice place in Poblado with a jacuzi, but still at a fraction of the cost, I dunno, one-fifth, one-tenth of the cost compared to the USA. I cheap out when it comes to that.

Now you are like a gawd to these chicas and that is how they treat you. When they actually start to like you they will come back for dirt cheap or for free (taxi) or for the pink shit (2 C), but I always give them something. If you want to be loved, be loveable. Ostee Out.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2650432]If you have had this experience how did you spend your time in quarantine before you were able to test negative and go back home?[/QUOTE]I had this experience end of June, in Bogota, not Medellin. Spending the time in quarantine was pretty easy. I was quite sick, barely left the bed and ate very little. During the time when I wasn't sleeping I watched Netflix.

If you test positive, you don't need to wait for a negative test. Delta told me I had to wait 10 days after the positive test before I could fly. I ended up waiting 14. Once I recovered I had a doctor come to my hotel, who gave me a checkup and wrote out a Certificate of Recovery.

The problem is, after catching Covid it's possible to test positive for up to 90 days.

Once I was recovered and cleared, I had 2 girls from Medellin come and spend my last 2 days with me.

More fotos, continued from my previous post.

Does anyone know if haven hotel will let you take 2 or 3 girls even if you only booked for 2?

[QUOTE=ScottyMarky;2650384]I wonder why would she do that.[/QUOTE]My take on it is that the chicas here are not all binary as in, yes I am a sex worker, no I am not a sex worker. Taking money for sex is on a cultural and psychological continuum. There are even chicas hanging out in Botero Park looking to have sex for money but they won't acknowledge that to themselves, consciously. Don't forget the main above-ground religion here by far is Roman Catholicism, and they specialize in instilling guilt. And pedophilia. And raping young nuns. But I digress.

There are obvious pay for play situations and a lot of guys will probably want to stick with those chicas to keep things simple, especially if there is a language barrier. But there are a ton of chicas (most?) here who will have sex for money if it is done in a way that makes them feel like they are not whoring. There is one chica in my (unranked) line up who if I even hint at the suggestion that I am paying her for sex she will freeze up, stonewall me, and even avoid me. She won that game one time until after after six months I finally acquiesced and told her she was a nice girl, a good girl, who I would like to help with a gift to pay her bills. She always had a specific bill and amount in mind. When the amount was too high I would say, "I am sorry I cannot pay all your rent, but this should help. " She is the freakiest girl in my line up. Go figure. There is a special kind of enjoyment in getting a girl who isn't an automatic slam-dunk for a fuck even though you still pay, and to repeat myself, they are on a continuum here. Shades of Gray.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2650465]To help ease your mind she is 100% woman. I have known her for over 4 years as my Colombian buddy and she were "a thing" for about one year and so I have been with them both in the same hotel room, along with another few chicas as we had a mini-orgy of sorts.

This was more than 4 years ago and since then she has gained weight and is even more pro.

But I recall the first time that my buddy introduced her and my very first thought was. "is she a he", hehehehehe.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]That was my thought from the first picture. The other 2 pictures, one was fine and I wouldn't have questioned, but the other was also questionable. Glad to know I'm not the only one who thought that.

I'll be visiting for 2 weeks this month, can anyone give me some average prices on how much a girl would be for the whole night or day? I been to Cartagena before and it was around $160 for the whole night. Also any good massage places you would recommend. Finally overrated clubs to avoid. Thanks.

I've had fun in Mexico, Russia, Ukraine, Thailand, Cambodia, and now my first trip to Medellin. Thanks for all the great information from this amazing forum! It will be a very short taste Jan. 22-25 with a couple of days in Bogota as well. Would enjoy sharing a shot of tequila (on me) with any of the crazy travelers from this site while I am there.

I'm booking my Hotel and I have but to together my wish list. Hoping to get some feedback from you guys.

Close to Lleras Park.

Under $150 a night.

Girl Friendly (Multiple girls at the same time haha, and hopefully a max of 50 k for extra girls).

Swimming Pool or at least jacuzzi (Rooftop a bonus).

Oh, and my new biggest ask. Mirrors strategically placed.

Fun, fun, fun, till daddy takes the Tbird away!

What are overnight or all day prices looking like? I been to Cartagena before and it was around $160 all night. Also any overrated clubs I should avoid. Lastly any good clubs / massage places you recommend. Thanks.

[QUOTE=ScottyMarky;2650384]...... Since I didn't give her money she left. But where to? At the park Lleras. Lleras is the park where working woman hangs out. She was a working girl but acting like a normal girl. I wonder why would she do that.[/QUOTE]My guess is that you met her on her first or second day as a wg. That would be a jackpot for me.

I think there is also more of an expectation in terms of gender norms that men pay for things in Colombia and most Latin Countries (even more than in the US). Thus it's a sign of interest that a man helps out with things. So that weirdly works hand in hand with these needs and helps the girls justify asking for help for sex. Now the special sauce that makes Colombia different in comparison to the many other Latin countries I've visited are the liberal attitudes about sex. It may be a sample bias, but all the girls I met here masturbate and are super in touch with their bodies and sexuality. I've spent a lot of time in Central America and Mexico and it's definitely not like that in all places there. The women I've met in Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador especially are so conservative / out of touch with their bodies that they'd never consider giving or receiving oral sex and have never masturbated in their lives.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2650485]My take on it is that the chicas here are not all binary as in, yes I am a sex worker, no I am not a sex worker. Taking money for sex is on a cultural and psychological continuum. There are even chicas hanging out in Botero Park looking to have sex for money but they won't acknowledge that to themselves, consciously. Don't forget the main above-ground religion here by far is Roman Catholicism, and they specialize in instilling guilt. And pedophilia. And raping young nuns. But I digress.

There are obvious pay for play situations and a lot of guys will probably want to stick with those chicas to keep things simple, especially if there is a language barrier. But there are a ton of chicas (most?) here who will have sex for money if it is done in a way that makes them feel like they are not whoring. There is one chica in my (unranked) line up who if I even hint at the suggestion that I am paying her for sex she will freeze up, stonewall me, and even avoid me. She won that game one time until after after six months I finally acquiesced and told her she was a nice girl, a good girl, who I would like to help with a gift to pay her bills. She always had a specific bill and amount in mind. When the amount was too high I would say, "I am sorry I cannot pay all your rent, but this should help. " She is the freakiest girl in my line up. Go figure. There is a special kind of enjoyment in getting a girl who isn't an automatic slam-dunk for a fuck even though you still pay, and to repeat myself, they are on a continuum here. Shades of Gray.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2650455]Can Colombia deny you entry if you had covid within 14 days, even with no more symptoms, 3 vaccine shots and a negative covid test?[/QUOTE]You are having trouble inferring the answer yourself? Use common sense. If they ask about covid in the last 14 days is because they don't want any travelers that have been sick within 2 weeks because that was the quarantine period at first, but now it's 5-10 days. My wife was diagnosed with covid and she had to quarantine for 5 days and use a mask for 5 additional days (total 10 days).

So, the answer is yes, you will most likely not be admitted into the country. You can wait another week or two.

[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2650473]Does anyone know if haven hotel will let you take 2 or 3 girls even if you only booked for 2?[/QUOTE]All in the El Centro or Estadio or Laureles area.

The only time there was a limit to the number of chicas allowed in the room at one time was in short time or Love Motels. The reason given was that by regulation the rooms were too small to allow occupancy by more than two people, including myself. Otherwise, it is simply a matter of paying the puta tariff or guest fee or joiner tax or whatever you want to call it. Some places will allow as many girls as you can bring for one fee, most places charge per pussy.

Now that I think about it, one hotel limited me to three girls in my room. After that, I paid for the adjoining room and put four more girls in there at the same time for a total of a seven-girl party. Sometimes I would switch rooms, sometimes the chicas would tag in and tag out while I was in the middle of sexing. The second room was cheaper than paying the individual guest fees for each girl so I guess that was a win-win. Honestly, I don't remember most of what happened but I had a good feeling when I regained my senses the next day and amazingly, nothing was stolen, jeje. Ostee Out.

Check Hotel Restaurante Veler near park Lleras in Poblado. It is chica friendly but not sure about swimming pool and jaccuzi.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=SplareMe;2650570]I've had fun in Mexico, Russia, Ukraine, Thailand, Cambodia, and now my first trip to Medellin. Thanks for all the great information from this amazing forum! It will be a very short taste Jan. 22-25 with a couple of days in Bogota as well. Would enjoy sharing a shot of tequila (on me) with any of the crazy travelers from this site while I am there.

I'm booking my Hotel and I have but to together my wish list. Hoping to get some feedback from you guys.

Close to Lleras Park.

Under $150 a night.

Girl Friendly (Multiple girls at the same time haha, and hopefully a max of 50 k for extra girls).

Swimming Pool or at least jacuzzi (Rooftop a bonus).

Oh, and my new biggest ask. Mirrors strategically placed.

Fun, fun, fun, till daddy takes the Tbird away![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Recondite;2650706]Now the special sauce that makes Colombia different in comparison to the many other Latin countries I've visited are the liberal attitudes about sex. It may be a sample bias, but all the girls I met here masturbate and are super in touch with their bodies and sexuality. I've spent a lot of time in Central America and Mexico and it's definitely not like that in all places there. The women I've met in Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador especially are so conservative / out of touch with their bodies that they'd never consider giving or receiving oral sex and have never masturbated in their lives.[/QUOTE]Definitely something wrong with your sample. You must be meeting your chicks at the local convents.

[QUOTE=Recondite;2650706]I think there is also more of an expectation in terms of gender norms that men pay for things in Colombia and most Latin Countries (even more than in the US). Thus it's a sign of interest that a man helps out with things. So that weirdly works hand in hand with these needs and helps the girls justify asking for help for sex. Now the special sauce that makes Colombia different in comparison to the many other Latin countries I've visited are the liberal attitudes about sex. It may be a sample bias, but all the girls I met here masturbate and are super in touch with their bodies and sexuality. I've spent a lot of time in Central America and Mexico and it's definitely not like that in all places there. The women I've met in Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador especially are so conservative / out of touch with their bodies that they'd never consider giving or receiving oral sex and have never masturbated in their lives.[/QUOTE]I agree on both points, expectation and 'special sauce' jeje. I have said sexual mores and values from the USA do not translate smoothly to here. These girls would be viewed as "golddiggers" or some other negative connotation in the United States. For here, their behavior is a social norm. I think I have the right mongerer (you) in mind when I say, I'm very glad you enjoyed Medellin. I am biased and probably delusional but I have myself convinced that Medellin is some sort of positive nexus point in the universe, that's how unique Medellin seems to me and how much I love it here. Keep On Keepin' On my brother in hijinx.

[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2650455]I was positive for covid a week ago and I am waiting for the result of my new test.

I am not symptomatic anymore, and I would like to reschedule another flight to Colombia ASAP.

However on the check mig site it asks: " were you sick within 14 days?" and then "were you diagnosed with covid within 14 days?

I called american airlines and researched on the internet but did not find an answer.

Can Colombia deny you entry if you had covid within 14 days, even with no more symptoms, 3 vaccine shots and a negative covid test?[/QUOTE]Sigh. Are your medical records private? If you put yes, you will be denied. If you put no, then well, why are you even asking that? You mean you do not know? What are you researching?

The airlines are the ones who look at the vaccine record. Yeah, you have to pledge you have not had Covid for 14 days on the airlines too I think.

So yeah, if you tell the truth, you will be denied entry.

[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2650473]Does anyone know if haven hotel will let you take 2 or 3 girls even if you only booked for 2?[/QUOTE]No, any more than one at a time, and you have to pay a guest fee.

Does anyone know where to procure "Large" condoms or happen to have any to spare? Just any normal Trojan magnum or size 56, or normal skyn condom is fine.

I checked at a few stores and pharmacies today but only saw normal today and durex sizes. I'm not particularly big but all the today and Durex ones I see are 52-53 which kill sensation for me.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2650796]No, any more than one at a time, and you have to pay a guest fee.[/QUOTE]How much is the guest fee do you know?

Ignore my previous post. Found a store called guiacereza that sells large condoms.

I'd be proud of myself if I could seduce nuns from a Central American convent regardless of sexual mores. My comparison is probably not an apples to apples comparison as I've met several normal girls while working in the countryside in Northern Central America. I know Northern Central America well though and it's definitely more conservative in both cities and countryside. You won't find many single girls out at clubs or bars and women drinking is taboo. The puta / santa complex seems instilled extra strong in the girls I've met there, though I'm sure there is some of that in Colombia too.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2650773]Definitely something wrong with your sample. You must be meeting your chicks at the local convents.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ScottyMarky;2650746]Check Hotel Restaurante Veler near park Lleras in Poblado. It is chica friendly but not sure about swimming pool and jaccuzi.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thank you for responding. Unfortunately, they have no rooms on the days I will be there. Looks like a good price and location. I could still use some advice from the forum guys!

If you test positive for antigen test in Colombia, What I hear is that the person has to quarantine for 10 days before he can travel to USA. If you staying at a hotel, do you have to notify the hotel that you are positive and do hotel kick you out or charge you more? Is it way to get another hotel, and since you have to inform it too that you are covid positive, do they refuse or charge more?

BTW I am not covid positive but I am planning to visit Medellin soon and may have to deal with a scenario if I catch the virus.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2650773]Definitely something wrong with your sample. You must be meeting your chicks at the local convents.[/QUOTE]Nuns aren't even like that LMAO.

Going to Medellin for the first time and want to be as prepared as possible to maximize the trip. Have a lot of other things planned but was curious about the best way to achieve the following as painless as possible. Please PM if you prefer.

-2 Bi girls coming straight to my room, everyone plays with everyone.

-I record video on my phone.

-Safety first but want both girls to please balls orally.

For something like this it better prepaid to my room or to visit a place.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2650794]Sigh. Are your medical records private? If you put yes, you will be denied. If you put no, then well, why are you even asking that? You mean you do not know? What are you researching?

The airlines are the ones who look at the vaccine record. Yeah, you have to pledge you have not had Covid for 14 days on the airlines too I think.

So yeah, if you tell the truth, you will be denied entry.[/QUOTE]I called Minsalud and they are not really aware that a PCR test can stay positive for months; but they agree that a negative antigene test, a medical clearance, and 14 days after the beginning of symptoms will will be enough to get entry as long as I don't have symptoms. They just follow the WHO recommendations I think. I took the name of the lady who talked to me.

[QUOTE=Recondite;2650855]My comparison is probably not an apples to apples comparison as I've met several normal girls while working in the countryside in Northern Central America. I know Northern Central America well though and it's definitely more conservative in both cities and countryside. You won't find many single girls out at clubs or bars and women drinking is taboo. The puta / santa complex seems instilled extra strong in the girls I've met there,[/QUOTE]First you were talking about fucking, now you are talking about drinking and partying. Those are 2 different things. Women are women no matter where you go.

I have only messed with nonpros (normal chicks that are not hookers that I have given zero money to) in Costa Rica, Honduras, Nicaragua, El Salvador. Never fucked 1 hooker in those places. The chicks there have sucked dick, fucked in the ass, and blamed me for real (pregnant but not actually mine) and fake (not pregnant at all) babies just like chicks anywhere else. Don't be fooled. They are not saints or virgins.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2650945] ran upstairs and grabbed my Blue Tooth speaker and some pink shit we ran over to The Deseo Hotel behind The Nutti that I have listed here before as a place that does not check cedulas (ID). Tonight they did ask for ID but that doesn't necessarily mean I would have been cock-blocked if they weren't able to show their ID's. The one chica only had a foto ID on her phone and that usually works but some places will insist on seeing the actual ID. Note, the cost of this hotel room was less than the dally guest fee at The Nutti. Your call.[/QUOTE]Just some information about Hotel Deseo's for others to know. It costs' 18,000 COP for three hours, and the majority of the rooms have mirrors on the ceiling. I was there today with one of my little spinners, and this is the second time we have been there. She is very young looking, but actually 23, and the first time I took her there, they asked to see her Cedula, yet today upon entering I told her to get her Cedula out, but they didn't even bother to look at it.

More and more short time Hotels in Centro are asking for Cedulas it seems like. I was at the Zona Rosa Hotel yesterday, and they had posted a sign that you needed to show a Cedula, yet they never asked for them.

Lots of times it's totally hit and miss, and on some occasions, at the Premium Plaza they've played hardball requiring ID's, and other times not at all.

All depends on whose is at the front desk, and how young looking the girls are that you bring in.

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2648979]Maria has been my FB friend since December and she even shared me her whatsapp number in December. Since I am visiting medellin on Jan. 16, I tried to contact her via fb messenger but got no response till date. She is probably swamped by FB messages. So I sent her Whatsapp message today and got immediate but curt response saying that she no longer does 200 k appointments. Good for her. But this is what happens when exposure turn them into diva, and soon normal rate of 150 k-200 k becomes history.

Kate, another FB girl that got exposure here quoted me 250k + taxi, when I merely announced my travel plans to visit Medellin. I sent same travel announcement message to my other FB friends and over 30 of them responded positively without quoting prices. So Kate and Maria stood out in their response.[/QUOTE]Update.

I offered 260 k to Maria and she came back asking for us dollar 200 - I said no thanks, bye.

I offered 250 k to Kate and she declined the offer, but she did not say why and did not made counter offer.

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2651173]Update.

I offered 260 k to Maria and she came back asking for us dollar 200 - I said no thanks, bye.

I offered 250 k to Kate and she declined the offer, but she did not say why and did not made counter offer.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't waste 10 seconds worrying over why some puta declined the offer. There are too many out there to obsess over 1 or 2. I used to do that in my newbie days. I'd get all excited over 1 and when it didn't happen, I'd get all bummed out. No more. Next!

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2650890]If you test positive for antigen test in Colombia, What I hear is that the person has to quarantine for 10 days before he can travel to USA. If you staying at a hotel, do you have to notify the hotel that you are positive and do hotel kick you out or charge you more? Is it way to get another hotel, and since you have to inform it too that you are covid positive, do they refuse or charge more?

BTW I am not covid positive but I am planning to visit Medellin soon and may have to deal with a scenario if I catch the virus.[/QUOTE]Courtesy says you inform the hotel. Otherwise they won't know to take extra precautions.

Since this happened to me, I will repeat my experience. After getting the positive test I called the front desk to inform them. It was a Courtyard by Marriott (near Bogota airport) and pretty expensive, about $71 per night. My original plan was a 2 night stay and it was convenient for me.

The hotel manager told me he would inform the staff, and without me mentioning anything about the cost, lowered the price to $59 per night, which saved me a little.

I ordered all my meals from room service. Whenever a meal was delivered they would park a cart in front of my door with the food bagged up on top. After knocking on the door, room service would stand on the other side of the hall while I retrieved the food. Every day the manager would call and ask how I was doing, and whenever I called the restaurant they would also ask about my health. With one meal they even handmade a little get well card for me.

Probably the biggest change was no housekeeping. Instead, after a few days, they brought a tote full of sheets, towels, cleaning supplies, masks, hand sanitizer, and all the soap, shampoo, etc.

If you're planning ahead for this, which is a good idea, I would decide before the trip where to quarantine. If the cost is an issue, choose a more economical hotel. If money isn't a concern, find a place more comfortable. A good in-house restaurant is nice, although expensive, or there's always Rappi. The day before your test, switch hotels, for your last 2 nights. Then, if you test positive, all you need to do is inform the hotel and wait it out.

I doubt if any hotel would kick you out, or raise your rates.

Well I got my facebook all set up, easily added over 200 girls in 4 days. A lot of them will message you first. I've had a few of them quote me 300,000-500,000 cop for 4 to 5 hours. Ill be in Medellin first weekend of Feb I think ill get 2 or 3 and go party for a bit then back to the hotel.

[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2651052]I called Minsalud and they are not really aware that a PCR test can stay positive for months; but they agree that a negative antigene test, a medical clearance, and 14 days after the beginning of symptoms will will be enough to get entry as long as I don't have symptoms. They just follow the WHO recommendations I think. I took the name of the lady who talked to me.[/QUOTE]A few days ago, Minisalud came out with some new guidelines relative to testing. They basically said that if it walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, it's a duck.

In essence what they said was that there was no need to do testing of younger healthy people who had the symptoms of the Omicron variant. In other words, if it is obviously Omicron based on the symptoms, why bother testing. I think Colombia looked at the "gaggle" with testing in the USA, and figured it was a total waste for younger healthy people who basically would have to wallow thru something similar to a cold.

Also, I noticed something today which I found alarming at the Pobaldo Metro Station, they have an electronic billboard stating that if you ride the Metro, you have a much higher risk of becoming infected.

I am on the Metro a lot, and have witnessed people with coughs, and on a few occasions people sweating.

I have curtailed riding the Metro, and always wear a KN95 or N95 mask.

Also, given that very few people are getting tested, I believe the daily COVID infection numbers being reported are way off.

I think on Thursday it was something around 5,000 for Antiquoa, but that number could easily be 3 or more times higher.

[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2651217]Well I got my facebook all set up, easily added over 200 girls in 4 days. A lot of them will message you first. I've had a few of them quote me 300,000-500,000 cop for 4 to 5 hours. Ill be in Medellin first weekend of Feb I think ill get 2 or 3 and go party for a bit then back to the hotel.[/QUOTE]Any girls you can name that you added to get started? I'm planning on setting mine up this weekend to begin the hunt.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011521896428[/URL]

Good source of prospects.

[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2651217]Well I got my facebook all set up, easily added over 200 girls in 4 days. A lot of them will message you first. I've had a few of them quote me 300,000-500,000 cop for 4 to 5 hours. Ill be in Medellin first weekend of Feb I think ill get 2 or 3 and go party for a bit then back to the hotel.[/QUOTE]Don't let the, quote you anything. You offer them 150-200 mil, and most of them will go for it or ask for a little more or taxi additional etc. Not sure why people feel they have to let the girl make the first move. Colombian culture is e guy makes the offer. If you let them they will throw so, e ridiculous rate, and some fools will pay it.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2651250][URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011521896428[/URL]

Good source of prospects.[/QUOTE]Is that your account or sharing someone else's?

Sharing in private via PM is better. It is generally not good idea to post FB profiles as publicity and subsequent deluge ruins it for everybody. Soon 150-200 fb rates would become history and many would turn into Diva.

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2651254]Is that your account or sharing someone else's?

Sharing in private via PM is better. It is generally not good idea to post FB profiles as publicity and subsequent deluge ruins it for everybody. Soon 150-200 fb rates would become history and many would turn into Diva.[/QUOTE]You've got to be kidding me. Sharing is caring.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2651250][URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011521896428[/URL]

Good source of prospects.[/QUOTE]Thank you for sharing this.

Hi,

Last year I was in Medellin at Orange suits in El Poblado I had to pay about $30-50 k if a girl was staying with me. Now I'm staying in Laureles (or any good location). Is there any good hotel girl friendly, or hotel without lobby (camera) thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2650485]My take on it is that the chicas here are not all binary as in, yes I am a sex worker, no I am not a sex worker. Taking money for sex is on a cultural and psychological continuum. There are even chicas hanging out in Botero Park looking to have sex for money but they won't acknowledge that to themselves, consciously. Don't forget the main above-ground religion here by far is Roman Catholicism, and they specialize in instilling guilt..[/QUOTE]I learned this as a kid from the Catholics in my neighborhood and have been reminded of it throughout the years even by an interview with a hit man in a documentary. Catholics can and do go to Confession where they ask for forgiveness but don't have to spell out what they have done. The priest then tells them that they have been forgiven and their conscience is cleared of any guilt they may have had. Guilt is gone and now on to the next sin. But take advantage of it and you are whether or not it was realized. They couldn't do what they do if they had a guilty conscience. Enjoy, you have been forgiven. Too. It's no coincidence that there are so many by the Church Veracruz.

Haven't used Western Union (WU) in a long time because my Chucky Schwab card does the job. Logged on the other day and there were four attempts to transfer money in the amounts of (USD) $1000, $1000, $20, then $1500, all on the same day. All transactions were "canceled". The name used was a girl I have been sexing recently and have known for a couple of years but she never even got close to being on my ranked line-up, mainly because as I have referred to her here before, she is the craziest girl I know in Colombia. Also the freakiest in bed. I don't know how she did it, I don't remember leaving her alone for a second but I was fuckin' high as a kite, who knows. Anywho, of course she denied it, I changed my WU password and blocked her on WhatsApp and her phone number. Sad, really.

Jose Maria Cordova International Airport in Rio Negro will be closed on February 19, 20, 26 and 27th.

If you have flights in or out of Medellin on any of those dates--contact your airline because your flight has been changed.

So now that Colombia requires foreigners to be fully vaccinated, and there are members on this board refuse vaccines before. Now, how many of you are giving up pussies to stand your ground? How many of you will try fake vaccine card and risk Colombian jail to stand your ground?

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2651396]So now that Colombia requires foreigners to be fully vaccinated, and there are members on this board refuse vaccines before. Now, how many of you are giving up pussies to stand your ground? How many of you will try fake vaccine card and risk Colombian jail to stand your ground?[/QUOTE]I can only speak from a USA point of view. How do you tell a "fake" card from a real card? The answer is that you can't. It is a mere index card with your handwritten name and birthday. There is a handwritten vaccine lot and date and the handwritten initials or name of the place where you got it from. It means nothing to someone in the USA and will definitely mean nothing to a person in Colombia looking at one. All they are interested in is your name on the card and that a vaccine is marked in the space.

I once went to a club in Las Vegas and handed the guy my Thai driver's license to go in. He had this book with driver's licenses around the world and he looked it up. My 2-year license has a blue stripe at the top because I do not have a visa to get the five year one which has a purple stripe at the top. In the book it only had a picture of the one with the purple. He did not let me in because according to him my 100% real license is fake.

So what is to stop anyone in Colombia from claiming your real foreign vaccine card is fake (and according to you, throwing you in a Colombian jail) or believing your fake foreign vaccine card is real?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2651422]I can only speak from a USA point of view. How do you tell a "fake" card from a real card?[/QUOTE]- I don't know, and even if I do. I wouldn't point it out either. I know it's not the same but there were people arrested in Cartagena for providing fake Covid test document.

- I'm just curious if people still stand their ground when it comes to vaccine vs "the promised land that we call Colombia" hahaha. Colombia has deported and bane foreigners from returning to Colombia for 10 years for breaking their covid related rules. I think many of the board members will roll up their sleeve and take that jab when it come to Colombian pussies vs vaccine! LOL.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2651431]- I don't know, and even if I do. I wouldn't point it out either. I know it's not the same but there were people arrested in Cartagena for providing fake Covid test document.[/QUOTE]The people in Cartagena were stupid and did not know what they were doing. Same as the lady that had a vaccine card with Maderna written on it. I know these are famous last words, but If you do not know what you are doing then don't do it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2651422]I can only speak from a USA point of view. How do you tell a "fake" card from a real card? The answer is that you can't. It is a mere index card with your handwritten name and birthday. ...[/QUOTE]That maybe true for certain states but not all states. Some states have digital database and may have QR code on the card. This can be used in various apps or displayed online. What I am saying is that it is not absolute.

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2651254]Is that your account or sharing someone else's?

Sharing in private via PM is better. It is generally not good idea to post FB profiles as publicity and subsequent deluge ruins it for everybody. Soon 150-200 fb rates would become history and many would turn into Diva.[/QUOTE]This is a well known page for many years. Instead of asking members to stop posting, you can counter by posting more to average things out, spreading the love.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2651463]That maybe true for certain states but not all states. Some states have digital database and may have QR code on the card. This can be used in various apps or displayed online. What I am saying is that it is not absolute.[/QUOTE]Since it is a Federal government issued card, how can some states have a different one? I'm not saying some states don't have a database and possibly their own card, but what assurance do you have that a state issued card will be accepted internationally?

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2651472]Since it is a Federal government issued card, how can some states have a different one?...[/QUOTE]It's a sticker. Google it and you will find some examples.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2651472]... but what assurance do you have that a state issued card will be accepted internationally?[/QUOTE]I think that is not in the scope of the post. But let's just say you will be required to show a digital version in your Android phone health app wallet. Just this simple step will reduce fake significantly. We can go on and on about this until this is sent to the shit thread but that is the basic idea. It does not completely eliminate fake but make it a lot harder than it is now.

[QUOTE=Shagmeister7777;2651265]You've got to be kidding me. Sharing is caring.[/QUOTE]It really isn't. Especially if you share contact information on a public forum. ISG is (in some ways) the public restroom of the internet. If you go out and find a girl who might occasionally make some extra money on the side, you might pass her number on to a few trusted friends, and everyone is happy.

If you just pull out a Sharpie and write her number next to the urinal, everyone isn't happy. The girl starts getting calls at all hours from a bunch of creepy guys and probably ends up changing her number. You lose out, any friends who you might want to refer to her lose out and she loses out.

Here's a better way:

Use the methods frequently explained here to get started with Facebook. You can find a helpful link near the top of the Links to Reports of Distinction thread.

Start meeting with some Facebook girls. Also start meeting with some mongers while you're in Medellin. Post about your experiences.

As you get to know some mongers learn what they like. If you find someone who seems like a good match for a monger buddy, pass her info on to him.

This benefits everyone without causing problems for anyone.

As you build your Facebook list, you'll start getting requests from girls. It comes and goes. Right now I'm getting about 30 requests each week. As you post about your experiences, you become recognized by other mongers, increasing your options to meet new friends and learn new things. As you share with select people, they share with you. You get girls who are vetted, your friends get girls who are vetted and the girls get new contacts who are vetted.

Only the lurkers lose out.

If you're a lurker here, get involved. Post about your experiences, ask questions. You'll find there are quite a few good people here who are happy to help.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2651422]I can only speak from a USA point of view. How do you tell a "fake" card from a real card? The answer is that you can't. It is a mere index card with your handwritten name and birthday. There is a handwritten vaccine lot and date and the handwritten initials or name of the place where you got it from. It means nothing to someone in the USA and will definitely mean nothing to a person in Colombia looking at one. All they are interested in is your name on the card and that a vaccine is marked in the space.

I once went to a club in Las Vegas and handed the guy my Thai driver's license to go in. He had this book with driver's licenses around the world and he looked it up. My 2-year license has a blue stripe at the top because I do not have a visa to get the five year one which has a purple stripe at the top. In the book it only had a picture of the one with the purple. He did not let me in because according to him my 100% real license is fake.

So what is to stop anyone in Colombia from claiming your real foreign vaccine card is fake (and according to you, throwing you in a Colombian jail) or believing your fake foreign vaccine card is real?[/QUOTE]As I've stated before, learning whether or not a vaccine card is fake is actually quite simple. Anyone with any data analysis experience should be able to figure it out. I expect someone will have a verification service up and running and available to employers and foreign governments before much longer. If I had the time I would start it myself.

Any entrepreneurs out there wanting a high profit, low maintenance business idea?

As for your fake license, you weren't refused entry because the license was fake. Even if that's what you were told. You were refused entry because the ID you provided was not in their list of acceptable IDs. They expect someone from Thailand to provide either a Thai passport or a resident Thai license. Can you imagine how thick the book would have to be to account for every type of ID available in every country.

Of course there was no need for you to be denied entry. You were in the US. You have at least one US form of ID. Why would you go out, knowing you would likely need to provide ID, without carrying an ID you know will be universally accepted? That's like going out in Medellin carrying only US dollars.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2651431]- I don't know, and even if I do. I wouldn't point it out either. I know it's not the same but there were people arrested in Cartagena for providing fake Covid test document.

- I'm just curious if people still stand their ground when it comes to vaccine vs "the promised land that we call Colombia" hahaha. Colombia has deported and bane foreigners from returning to Colombia for 10 years for breaking their covid related rules. I think many of the board members will roll up their sleeve and take that jab when it come to Colombian pussies vs vaccine! LOL.[/QUOTE]I don't think many of them will get vaccinated to get into Colombia. They'll use a fake card. Even after someone gets caught, they'll continue to use fake cards.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2651377]I learned this as a kid from the Catholics in my neighborhood and have been reminded of it throughout the years even by an interview with a hit man in a documentary. Catholics can and do go to Confession where they ask for forgiveness but don't have to spell out what they have done. The priest then tells them that they have been forgiven and their conscience is cleared of any guilt they may have had. Guilt is gone and now on to the next sin. But take advantage of it and you are whether or not it was realized. They couldn't do what they do if they had a guilty conscience. Enjoy, you have been forgiven. Too. It's no coincidence that there are so many by the Church Veracruz.[/QUOTE]One of the priests from Vera Cruz tells it like this, "We have two kinds of hombre sinners here. Those who ask for forgiveness for what they are about to do, and those who ask for for forgiveness for what they just did." Jajajajjajaja, I love it.

Random gratuitous fotos less than one hour old from Ground Zero, right next to Vera Cruz. As sweet as you will ever legally find. Wau, just wau. She deleted all the fotos I took except for these two. She would not even allow her clothes to show in case it could identify her. I always give chicas the right to delete fotos, builds trust. She asked for forty mil, I tossed a cinquenta note on the bed. All day long, again and again, no problema. Ostee Out.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2651396]So now that Colombia requires foreigners to be fully vaccinated, and there are members on this board refuse vaccines before. Now, how many of you are giving up pussies to stand your ground? How many of you will try fake vaccine card and risk Colombian jail to stand your ground?[/QUOTE]I'll say that some will stand firm and say that they're not getting vaccinated, but then will get it once they realize that the policy is not changing. So in the 100% of guys will get vaccinated.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2651383]Jose Maria Cordova International Airport in Rio Negro will be closed on February 19, 20, 26 and 27th.

If you have flights in or out of Medellin on any of those dates--contact your airline because your flight has been changed.[/QUOTE]Is this April fools? They are closing the airport on back-to-back weekends?

Not quite. Airport only closed until 2 pm On the 20th and 27th. I fly in on February 27 at 2:15 pm.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2651383]Jose Maria Cordova International Airport in Rio Negro will be closed on February 19, 20, 26 and 27th.

If you have flights in or out of Medellin on any of those dates--contact your airline because your flight has been changed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2651380]Haven't used Western Union (WU) in a long time because my Chucky Schwab card does the job. Logged on the other day and there were four attempts to transfer money in the amounts of (USD) $1000, $1000, $20, then $1500, all on the same day. All transactions were "canceled". The name used was a girl I have been sexing recently and have known for a couple of years but she never even got close to being on my ranked line-up, mainly because as I have referred to her here before, she is the craziest girl I know in Colombia. Also the freakiest in bed. I don't know how she did it, I don't remember leaving her alone for a second but I was fuckin' high as a kite, who knows. Anywho, of course she denied it, I changed my WU password and blocked her on WhatsApp and her phone number. Sad, really.[/QUOTE]No dar papaya. You got lucky.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2651505]As for your fake license, you weren't refused entry because the license was fake. Even if that's what you were told. You were refused entry because the ID you provided was not in their list of acceptable IDs. They expect someone from Thailand to provide either a Thai passport or a resident Thai license. Can you imagine how thick the book would have to be to account for every type of ID available in every country.[/QUOTE]Good thing you were there to hear first hand more of the story than what I told and to see him waste his time looking up something that he already knew was not in their list of acceptable IDs. I guess 360 pages of 570 IDs from 175 countries is not considered thick enough for you. Damn, if the ID book had only been 361 pages to meet your specifications of being thick. It is a relief that you are here to get MY story right.

A buddy forwarded this to me, and 2,600,000 cop a month for 950 sq feet in a nice area seems low to me. I'll be the first to admit I have not priced out Medellin in several years, and never seriously.

Keep in mind this figure includes furniture, but no utilities.

I really hope Colombia is serious about enforcing Covid laws. I can't to see those unvaccinated Americans telling Colombian government that their rights has been violated LOL. I have no sympathy for those unvaccinated Americans that have to use Colombian ventilators, I hope Colombia government come down hard on them.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2651508]I don't think many of them will get vaccinated to get into Colombia. They'll use a fake card. Even after someone gets caught, they'll continue to use fake cards.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2651741]I really hope Colombia is serious about enforcing Covid laws. I can't to see those unvaccinated Americans telling Colombian government that their rights has been violated LOL. I have no sympathy for those unvaccinated Americans that have to use Colombian ventilators, I hope Colombia government come down hard on them.[/QUOTE]I ended up getting my COVID shot yesterday so I can get into Colombia first weekend in February.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2651533]One of the priests from Vera Cruz tells it like this, "We have two kinds of hombre sinners here. Those who ask for forgiveness for what they are about to do, and those who ask for for forgiveness for what they just did." Jajajajjajaja, I love it.

Random gratuitous fotos less than one hour old from Ground Zero, right next to Vera Cruz. As sweet as you will ever legally find. Wau, just wau. She deleted all the fotos I took except for these two. She would not even allow her clothes to show in case it could identify her. I always give chicas the right to delete fotos, builds trust. She asked for forty mil, I tossed a cinquenta note on the bed. All day long, again and again, no problema. Ostee Out.[/QUOTE]Hahaha, good one. I guess we all will need to go there for both.

Two line of forgiveness fellas, not what you are thinking. Go ask for another forgive me.

Do we need to pay for forgiveness too?

You know you are in Medellin when you are old enough to be your girlfriend's (cough) father, and with all seriousness she asks on her birthday if you are going to leave her for a younger woman. Nope.

Happy Birthday Catgirl.

She came over with her current girlfriend to spend the night. She ditches GF's faster then Kellog's makes new Pop-Tarts and this was the first time I got to sex with Cricket. They look so much alike they could pass for sisters so it really doesn't matter which one is which for the purposes of this post. They are both just a little shy of 4 foot 11. Even their pussies look alike, and that's what they are doing in the mirror.

[QUOTE=Shagmeister7777;2651265]You've got to be kidding me. Sharing is caring.[/QUOTE]You obviously have not been reading this forum. It was only a couple of weeks ago that someone shared a profile online and the next thing you know the girl went from charging 200 k to charging 500 k. Law of supply and demand. The demand went through the roof. I suspect that half of the assholes writing to her were / are lurkers that sit on the internet in their moms basement jacking-off to her FB photos. They are never going to even step foot in Colombia but they can get on FB harrass these chicas with their BS and lies about how they are coming there, then the chica starts thinking all guys are liars, now guys are reporting that she no longer responds to messages.

Caring is not positng a chica profile and causing her price to go through the roof and then her be so flooded with messages from lurkers that she stop responding.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2651533]One of the priests from Vera Cruz tells it like this, "We have two kinds of hombre sinners here. Those who ask for forgiveness for what they are about to do, and those who ask for for forgiveness for what they just did." Jajajajjajaja, I love it..[/QUOTE]Some background on the Veracruz Church. It's over three hundred years old, I believe closer to 340 years old, and prostitutes have been working around it since it was built. Just imagine being there 300 years ago, I have no clue as to what the currency was like back then, it would be interesting to know. And I wonder about condoms back then. I believe they used pig intestines back then, maybe not. As we all know, prostitution is the oldest business on the planet, and imagine that there were guys there banging hoes three hundred years ago.

Most definitely hallow ground!

Last day in Medellin, other than the regular walking around and appreciating the Lleras scenery. Apparently should have planned for more time just to explore the scene outside of Lleras. Ended up in Om Spa and took the bait for 4 hand sensorial for 250 k. I'll admit the girls were pretty damn good at this, they went under, around, just all over and pressing son all the right spots, coulda done this for another hour honestly. If you can speak Spanish it will be a huge benefit as with all things here it seems. My Spanish sucks ass so they asked for 150 k more to each get nude. Hard to say no with balls in one of their hands and shaft in the other. I'd put them both at 8/10 in looks, early 20's, great ssses, but once the clothes came off, damn didn't expect the fitness, firmness and all natural. I gave in but only if I could nut twice. They both looked at each other like I was crazy. Needless to say the first was quick but the second took all their effort. Started clock watching which is a huge turnoff but in the end they worked it until completion. I'd say not so worth it since they didn't take their thongs off. Got numbers and later they offered 200 k for nude and BJ at hotel but only after spa hours, and different girls offered (not as hot but not ugly). Kathe & Johanna were my girls.

Can't for the life of me find a good massage from a total smokeshow. Any help always appreciated.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2651827]Thanks for the free advice, I probably could use it. You just as well could tell me to stop doing drogas, and that ain't going to happen on this reincarnation.

Random gratuitous recent fotos. The empty room was a new (for me) Love Motel across the street from the back corner of the Vera Cruz church. Good. WiFi strong in that room. I asked the chica what was the name of the hotel and she didn't know, jeje. I think it's the SE corner, fuck of that intersection, I dunno. I'll report back.[/QUOTE]Love the pics. Where is that place where you have the Bud in your hand?

Looks like a good and safe place to hang out.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2651812]Some background on the Veracruz Church. It's over three hundred years old, I believe closer to 340 years old, and prostitutes have been working around it since it was built. Just imagine being there 300 years ago, I have no clue as to what the currency was like back then, it would be interesting to know. And I wonder about condoms back then. I believe they used pig intestines back then, maybe not. As we all know, prostitution is the oldest business on the planet, and imagine that there were guys there banging hoes three hundred years ago.

Most definitely hallow ground![/QUOTE]The original church started construction in 1682 and was rebuilt starting in 1791.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2651812]Some background on the Veracruz Church. It's over three hundred years old, I believe closer to 340 years old, and prostitutes have been working around it since it was built. Just imagine being there 300 years ago, I have no clue as to what the currency was like back then, it would be interesting to know. And I wonder about condoms back then. I believe they used pig intestines back then, maybe not. As we all know, prostitution is the oldest business on the planet, and imagine that there were guys there banging hoes three hundred years ago.

Most definitely hallow ground![/QUOTE]Great info. That's a long time and some things haven't changed and why should they? Most likely built by enslaved blacks or Indigenous workers. Still standing and in great shape says a lot about how things were done then. Lots of history in old buildings. When I get back soon, I'll look into the history of it and that area. Thanks for the info Surfer500, I have a minor in Latin American History so I really eat this up.

[QUOTE=DogLife;2651864]Love the pics. Where is that place where you have the Bud in your hand?

Looks like a good and safe place to hang out.[/QUOTE]Mayorca Mega Mall is right, it's huge. Easy to get, just get off at the Intagui metro station, four stops after Poblado heading away from San Antonia (El Centro) and the walkover takes you directly into the mall. I got my follow up dental work there in a 12 story office building attached to the mall, you have to take the programmed elevators next to the near food court (nearest to the metro station) and the entire floor is dentists' offices. Finding the mall was easy, finding the dentist office was not because the place is so huge. See recent previous post for the names of the dentists, I first went to one of their smaller satelite offices in El Centro.

I am arriving in Medellin this weekend. Sat. Jan. 22-23. Thanks to the excellent information gleaned from this forum, I have some Facebook, Prepagos, SA chicas allegedly ready to go. I am ready to have some fun! Would love any suggestions on any bar / restaurants that have American football and chica opportunities?

Would like to buy fellow travelers a beer / tequila and share stories.

BTW following forum advice, I got a CS ATM card. It was easy to sign up and open a checking account that comes with the Debit card. One lesson I just learned is after you open the account you have to make any sized deposit into the account *before* they will send you the card. It didn't say that anywhere in the sign-up process. I found out when it didn't show up in a week after I opened the account and a called in to find out why.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2651699]Good thing you were there to hear first hand more of the story than what I told and to see him waste his time looking up something that he already knew was not in their list of acceptable IDs. I guess 360 pages of 570 IDs from 175 countries is not considered thick enough for you. Damn, if the ID book had only been 361 pages to meet your specifications of being thick. It is a relief that you are here to get MY story right.[/QUOTE]Someone has to get your stories right because they're so often full of inaccuracies, inconsistencies and straight up bullshit. Have you ever considered posting honestly, just as a change of pace?

Don't you find it amazing the club you once went to had the 2021 version of the ID Checking Guide? Personally, if according to you, the guy on the door at a club had memorized every ID included in the book I'm impressed. That's dedication.

Of course none of that matters. What matters is that, as I already stated and you confirmed, your 2 year Thai license wasn't in the book. And my question still remains. Why would you, as a US citizen, go out anywhere in the US carrying only a license from Thailand as your only form of ID? To get back into the US you had to have a passport. I assume, if you had a Thai driver's license you also have a driver's license issued in the US. It's not as if a driver's license issued by a US state is too bulky to carry around.

If someone posted they were walking around in Colombia only carrying US dollars and trying to pay for everything with US dollars, you would be all over them. But when you post that you did something equally foolish, nobody is supposed to point it out?

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2651723]A buddy forwarded this to me, and 2,600,000 cop a month for 950 sq feet in a nice area seems low to me. I'll be the first to admit I have not priced out Medellin in several years, and never seriously.

Keep in mind this figure includes furniture, but no utilities.[/QUOTE]Probably pretty close. The first apartment I was in in Medellin, 3 bed,2 bath, in an estrato 6 area, nice high rise with all the amenities, very convenient location, was 1.8 million unfurnished. The other apartment, 3 bed, 3.5 bath, about 1200 SQ. Ft, estrato 5, quiet neighborhood, was 1.6 million, unfurnished. Those prices were 4 years ago.

I am planning my trip to Columbia in next few weeks. So I got into some FB action and added few chicas to my FB and started chatting with one girl, I would rate her 8/10 in looks and is 23 years old. She is asking for $600 USD for one time sex (including anal and BBFS) but I see that this price is incredibly costly.

If I am looking for light skin hottie with BBFS and anal. For would be the price I should keep in mind?

Also apart from FB, what are other recommendation as pre-preparation? SA?

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2651923]Mayorca Mega Mall is right, it's huge. Easy to get, just get off at the Intagui metro station, four stops after Poblado heading away from San Antonia (El Centro) and the walkover takes you directly into the mall. I got my follow up dental work there in a 12 story office building attached to the mall, you have to take the programmed elevators next to the near food court (nearest to the metro station) and the entire floor is dentists' offices. Finding the mall was easy, finding the dentist office was not because the place is so huge. See recent previous post for the names of the dentists, I first went to one of their smaller satelite offices in El Centro.[/QUOTE]If you use the crosswalk in the mall to go to the main mall, there's a larger food court with some better restaurants.

The next stop north on the Metro will take you to Centro Comercial Viva, which is much bigger, although it's a bit longer of a walk.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2651908]Great info. That's a long time and some things haven't changed and why should they? Most likely built by enslaved blacks or Indigenous workers. Still standing and in great shape says a lot about how things were done then. Lots of history in old buildings. When I get back soon, I'll look into the history of it and that area. Thanks for the info Surfer500, I have a minor in Latin American History so I really eat this up.[/QUOTE]Wolf report inspired me to do a little research on the Church. I need to correct my report. Just read that it was built by immigrants and had to be rebuilt do to poor construction of the original. It's cool to know that others here enjoy some of the history in addition to enjoying something that others have enjoyed in the city and next to the Church for a few hundred years.

Been a lurker for a minute (here and USA guide), but finally getting a chance to go to Medellin. Thank you all for the detailed reviews and especially Osteoknot for great pics / stories.

I've followed the FB instructions (for those who are new and reading this search [URL]facebook.com[/URL] with Colombia as the subforum for search, you'll find some helpful info there), and added some chicas.

One of the chica agreed to 200 k, and another asked for 350 k. It seems that in recent times things have gotten expensive, but is 350 k worth it or am I overpaying?

Also I have a few questions if some of you gents wouldn't mind answering, I'll pay back by writing reviews once there / if you have questions about the scene in NYC happy to answer.

- Looking to stay in the Poblado region for 3 nights, which hotel / accommodation would you recommend? Heard Europa Suites is good (facility + bringing chicas), but would like other options (price, allowing chica (s) as guests).

- What are some common phrases I should know before going? My Spanish is pretty elementary and I do have the translator app, but would like to know a few key phrases so I don't seem completely lost.

- With facebook chicas what is the way to secure pictures / see that they are legitimate? Do you ask by fb chat and they direct you to whatsapp?

- I've also looked at websites such as milerotico, photoprepagos, pasionprepagos, have any of you gents used these services recently and had great results? In NYC, things are usually a scam and / or very overpriced so just being cautious here.

- Do you prefer incall / outcall in terms of safety? I know Medellin is relatively safe as long as you're aware of your surroundings, but I have heard a few horror stories about mongers getting robbed by going to incalls that seemed legitimate at first.

- Also if anyone would like to grab a beer / some food around 01/30 - 02/01, let me know!

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2652022]I am planning my trip to Columbia in next few weeks. So I got into some FB action and added few chicas to my FB and started chatting with one girl, I would rate her 8/10 in looks and is 23 years old. She is asking for $600 USD for one time sex (including anal and BBFS) but I see that this price is incredibly costly.

If I am looking for light skin hottie with BBFS and anal. For would be the price I should keep in mind?

Also apart from FB, what are other recommendation as pre-preparation? SA?[/QUOTE]My suggestion is to make contact and be prepared. Only talk price after you land and be ready to session. This way you will have better bargaining power and the girl is not likely bullshitting. I personally would work my way up and wouldn't talk about BBFS or anal first. There will be enough time to negotiate that after you know more.

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2652022]I am planning my trip to Columbia in next few weeks. So I got into some FB action and added few chicas to my FB and started chatting with one girl,

Also apart from FB, what are other recommendation as pre-preparation? SA?[/QUOTE]Parque Lleras, Gustos use search function here in forum. 300 USD for a hottie and you can try to see the chemistry and her hygiene points.

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2652022]I am planning my trip to Columbia in next few weeks. So I got into some FB action and added few chicas to my FB and started chatting with one girl, I would rate her 8/10 in looks and is 23 years old. She is asking for $600 USD for one time sex (including anal and BBFS) but I see that this price is incredibly costly.

If I am looking for light skin hottie with BBFS and anal. For would be the price I should keep in mind?

Also apart from FB, what are other recommendation as pre-preparation? SA?[/QUOTE]Yeah. Agreed with the other post on this. She's got you pegged as a gringo and is trying to exact a price that is 10 x market rates. I'm here now and no problems getting FB girls for 150 k - 200 k. BBFS shouldn't be a problem. Can't advise as to anal as I don't request it. No sense in negotiating until you get here.

Safe travels.

To those tempted to go without proper papers, my experience with Medellin airport is fresh. I am sitting in the airport, waiting for my flight right now after processing my documents for the flight.

Per the vax passport, the agents looked at it. The real brick passer is the covid test to return home. That document was photographed by flight staff. What they do with it, I don't know. But it does have a QR code on the document, so it's very likely links back to me and the info I gave the clinic. Since it is digital, it could live forever. Since I would like to return once restrictions ease, I followed the rules as best as I could, not missing any of the requirements. I did it all, but it went from having one document to having several plus time and money for tests and where to get one 🕜 and a Sunday. This reduces the luster of the whole experience. It bookends the trip with a lot of stress, even if a test is not needed to get in. You still require a heck of a lot more documents and obligations than you did just a few years ago.

In my opinion, short trips with 1-day COVID return windows are extremely risky. I was constantly trying to tamp down concern about flying into Tijuana and driving home, adding cost and time to getting home. Or just staying in Medellin and trying to figure out how to recover, get the recovery report, book new tickets, which goes to say either way would've been a nightmare with an extra $1000+ thrown on top of what was supposed to be a fun, cheap weekend.

I would say I met with 2 less woman than I would have liked (to maintain some space) and had a constant paranoia. Once the test came back that I was an AAA+++ rated human non-zombie tax ID sheeple, I could then relax and took the last day hard. The last day was a glimpse into how awesome Medellin can be.

Looking forward to when a more pragmatic, less fearful approach to COVID is taken, which goes to say even the prior 3-day test window now looks like nostalgic gold under this current regime of rules.

Make sure you have something good to do during the day. It's a big city and feels like it.

I live in New York for a long time so the last thing I want to do is go to a big ioty.

But the night scene by the park is excellent, and there are a lot of restaurants. Coffee shops it's a great little area actually.

[QUOTE=Nyclooking;2652226]Been a lurker for a minute (here and USA guide), but finally getting a chance to go to Medellin. Thank you all for the detailed reviews and especially Osteoknot for great pics / stories.

I've followed the FB instructions (for those who are new and reading this search [URL]facebook.com[/URL] with Colombia as the subforum for search, you'll find some helpful info there), and added some chicas.

One of the chica agreed to 200 k, and another asked for 350 k. It seems that in recent times things have gotten expensive, but is 350 k worth it or am I overpaying?

Also I have a few questions if some of you gents wouldn't mind answering, I'll pay back by writing reviews once there / if you have questions about the scene in NYC happy to answer.

- Looking to stay in the Poblado region for 3 nights, which hotel / accommodation would you recommend? Heard Europa Suites is good (facility + bringing chicas), but would like other options (price, allowing chica (s) as guests).

- What are some common phrases I should know before going? My Spanish is pretty elementary and I do have the translator app, but would like to know a few key phrases so I don't seem completely lost.

- With facebook chicas what is the way to secure pictures / see that they are legitimate? Do you ask by fb chat and they direct you to whatsapp?

- I've also looked at websites such as milerotico, photoprepagos, pasionprepagos, have any of you gents used these services recently and had great results? In NYC, things are usually a scam and / or very overpriced so just being cautious here.

- Do you prefer incall / outcall in terms of safety? I know Medellin is relatively safe as long as you're aware of your surroundings, but I have heard a few horror stories about mongers getting robbed by going to incalls that seemed legitimate at first.

- Also if anyone would like to grab a beer / some food around 01/30 - 02/01, let me know![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SplareMe;2651979]I am arriving in Medellin this weekend. Sat. Jan. 22-23. Thanks to the excellent information gleaned from this forum, I have some Facebook, Prepagos, SA chicas allegedly ready to go. I am ready to have some fun! Would love any suggestions on any bar / restaurants that have American football and chica opportunities? ... [/QUOTE]The only place that may have American football and available chicas is the Mansion ([URL]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/URL]). They have chicas, but I don't know about football. There are five other restaurants that have American football but no available chicas:

Poblado - Hooters (Cra. 37A ##8-44) Very close to Parque Lleras.
- Patrick's Irish Pub (Cra. 37A ##8A-43) One block from Hooters, closer to Parque Lleras.
- Medellin Beer Factory. Two locations (CL 10 #36-16) (Calle 9A #38-26) Had football in the past, don't know now.

Laureles - Medellin Sports Bar (CL. 41A #70-42) First floor of St Peter apartments.

Maybe Philly Steaks Medellin (Cra. 43B #8-51). I have never been there but on Facebook a couple of months ago they said they have American football on TV.

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2652022]I am planning my trip to Columbia in next few weeks. So I got into some FB action and added few chicas to my FB and started chatting with one girl, I would rate her 8/10 in looks and is 23 years old. She is asking for $600 USD for one time sex (including anal and BBFS) but I see that this price is incredibly costly.

If I am looking for light skin hottie with BBFS and anal. For would be the price I should keep in mind?

Also apart from FB, what are other recommendation as pre-preparation? SA?[/QUOTE]Is that a typo?? Did you say she quoted six hundred united states dollars? If that is what she said it is beyond absurd. She is a con artist becase no one else is paying her 600 USD. If a Chica is quoting you in US Dollars she is already trying to con you. And I would imediately call her out on that shit. She lives in Colombia and they use Colombian pesos so what would be the point of her quoting a price in US dollars. The average price is 150,000 Colombian Pesos (currently equivalent to $37.50 USD) up to 200,000 Colombian Pesos for a real pretty one. Then occasionally there are more gorgeous ones who have a repuation for excellent service that charge more than that but they are the exception.

Negotiate Negotiate Negotiate. And be prepared to move on to another chica if they keep trying to bullshit you. They either want to work or they are trying hustle you. If she is already trying to hustle you I would just about guarantee the service is going to be crap anyway. She is going to do the least she can to get that money.

A registered nurse in Colombia with a lot of experience, supervisory responsibilities and literally had peoples lives has her responsibility (in the age of Covid may be risking her own life) earns the max of 20,000 Colombian pesos and hour so maybe I might pay a chica 200,000 two hours. And the centro guys are catching their hair on fire at the mention of that much money for a chica LOL.

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[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2652316]The only place that may have American football and available chicas is the Mansion ([URL]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/URL]). They have chicas, but I don't know about football. There are five other restaurants that have American football but no available chicas:

Poblado - Hooters (Cra. 37A ##8-44) Very close to Parque Lleras.
- Patrick's Irish Pub (Cra. 37A ##8A-43) One block from Hooters, closer to Parque Lleras.
- Medellin Beer Factory. Two locations (CL 10 #36-16) (Calle 9A #38-26) Had football in the past, don't know now.

Laureles - Medellin Sports Bar (CL. 41A #70-42) First floor of St Peter apartments.

Maybe Philly Steaks Medellin (Cra. 43B #8-51). I have never been there but on Facebook a couple of months ago they said they have American football on TV.[/QUOTE]Add Ay Wey Sports bar, Calle 10 #35-33.

Also I believe they will show the games at Sweet Georgia Cafe, Carrera 78 #32 ee-25.

Visiting from Jan 21st-Feb 2nd, I have a guest friendly bnb, and was hoping to have a few overnight stays, just curious what would be a reasonable price for this?

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2652022]I am planning my trip to Columbia in next few weeks. So I got into some FB action and added few chicas to my FB and started chatting with one girl, I would rate her 8/10 in looks and is 23 years old. She is asking for $600 USD for one time sex (including anal and BBFS) but I see that this price is incredibly costly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nyclooking;2652226]One of the chica agreed to 200 k, and another asked for 350 k. It seems that in recent times things have gotten expensive, but is 350 k worth it or am I overpaying?[/QUOTE]Many people have already posted that the normal FB price is 150/200 K COP for one or two hours. If any chica wants more than 250 K, you should forget her because almost surely you will be disappointed in her performance.

I have had very good success not discussing what I want before meeting in person. I only discuss price before meeting. I think most of the chicas decide what they will do after meeting you. If you're a dick, that's probably how they will treat you and do the minimum necessary to get your money and go. If you treat her well, and she still doesn't do what you want, you've only spent about $60.

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2652022]I am planning my trip to Columbia in next few weeks. So I got into some FB action and added few chicas to my FB and started chatting with one girl, I would rate her 8/10 in looks and is 23 years old. She is asking for $600 USD for one time sex (including anal and BBFS) but I see that this price is incredibly costly.

If I am looking for light skin hottie with BBFS and anal. For would be the price I should keep in mind?

Also apart from FB, what are other recommendation as pre-preparation? SA?[/QUOTE]I never discuss pricing until I'm in town and ready to make a date. Whatever price you're quoted is subject to change. I also won't discuss anything in dollars. If some girl in Medellin quoted me $600 I would tell her to call when she's in the US and I might consider that price.

I do something others will tell you not to do. I ask them how much. Cuanto quieres por un rato? How much do you want for a little while? If they respond with a price higher than I want to pay, I respond siempre pago along with my price. In most cases they either accept or might ask for a bit more for taxi. If she won't commit to a price I'll say the same thing with my price. Siempre pago 200 mil. Está bien? I always pay 200 k. Is that okay?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2652321]Is that a typo?? Did you say she quoted six hundred united states dollars? If that is what she said it is beyond absurd. She is a con artist becase no one else is paying her 600 USD. If a Chica is quoting you in US Dollars she is already trying to con you. And I would imediately call her out on that shit. She lives in Colombia and they use Colombian pesos so what would be the point of her quoting a price in US dollars. The average price is 150,000 Colombian Pesos (currently equivalent to $37.50 USD) up to 200,000 Colombian Pesos for a real pretty one. Then occasionally there are more gorgeous ones who have a repuation for excellent service that charge more than that but they are the exception.

Negotiate Negotiate Negotiate. And be prepared to move on to another chica if they keep trying to bullshit you. They either want to work or they are trying hustle you. If she is already trying to hustle you I would just about guarantee the service is going to be crap anyway. She is going to do the least she can to get that money.

A registered nurse in Colombia with a lot of experience, supervisory responsibilities and literally had peoples lives has her responsibility (in the age of Covid may be risking her own life) earns the max of 20,000 Colombian pesos and hour so maybe I might pay a chica 200,000 two hours. And the centro guys are catching their hair on fire at the mention of that much money for a chica LOL.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your insights and yeah no kidding on 600 USD. That's why I was shocked too. What are the places I can go to get girls in Medellin and Cartagena?

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2652022]I am planning my trip to Columbia in next few weeks. So I got into some FB action and added few chicas to my FB and started chatting with one girl, I would rate her 8/10 in looks and is 23 years old. She is asking for $600 USD for one time sex (including anal and BBFS) but I see that this price is incredibly costly.

If I am looking for light skin hottie with BBFS and anal. For would be the price I should keep in mind?

Also apart from FB, what are other recommendation as pre-preparation? SA?[/QUOTE]She sees you as a newbie and priced accordingly. That's a 400-500% premium.

First personally I would avoid any girls who quote you in US Dollars. That means that they have been around the block, probably hardened pro.

As Americans, we like to plan everything, but the Latino culture lives day to day. Feet on the ground mean a lot more than scheduling ahead because for every 1 that schedules and shows up, 10 schedule and ghost them. There are losers sitting in their mommy's basement or married guy dreaming of being able to bang a hot Colombian instead of their bitchy gringa wife, so they talk these girls up and schedule a meet, with no intention of actually going to Colo. When you arrive, you will be able to find what you are looking for.

'Is that a typo? Did you say she quoted six hundred united states dollars? If that is what she said it is beyond absurd. She is a con artist because no one else is paying her 600 USD. If a Chica is quoting you in US Dollars she is already trying to con you.'

The fact he could not spell the name of the country correctly could be a first clue.

[QUOTE=SplareMe;2651979]BTW following forum advice, I got a CS ATM card. It was easy to sign up and open a checking account that comes with the Debit card. One lesson I just learned is after you open the account you have to make any sized deposit into the account *before* they will send you the card. It didn't say that anywhere in the sign-up process. I found out when it didn't show up in a week after I opened the account and a called in to find out why.[/QUOTE]It also takes three business days before any money you deposit becomes available to take out, which is annoying. At least that is what applies to me.

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2652022]I am planning my trip to Columbia in next few weeks. So I got into some FB action and added few chicas to my FB and started chatting with one girl, I would rate her 8/10 in looks and is 23 years old. She is asking for $600 USD for one time sex (including anal and BBFS) but I see that this price is incredibly costly.[/QUOTE]One thing I just thought of. What exactly did she write, "$600"? Or "$600 USD".

Because on the prepago websites, the prices are often quoted in this format: $150 which means 150,000 COP. Now I'm thinking she wants 600,000 COP. $600 USD would be almost 2. 5 million COP. That's beyond unimaginable that one would even quote that, unless she was a known model or tv personality.

[QUOTE=OneEyedMan;2652398]It also takes three business days before any money you deposit becomes available to take out, which is annoying. At least that is what applies to me.[/QUOTE]Yes, but you can deposit money into the Brokerage account, and transfer as needed instantly. Or if you deposit at a Schwab bank branch, it becomes available right away if cash or usually next day for checks.

[QUOTE=MedalloBum;2652371]She sees you as a newbie and priced accordingly. That's a 400-500% premium.

First personally I would avoid any girls who quote you in US Dollars. That means that they have been around the block, probably hardened pro.

As Americans, we like to plan everything, but the Latino culture lives day to day. Feet on the ground mean a lot more than scheduling ahead because for every 1 that schedules and shows up, 10 schedule and ghost them. There are losers sitting in their mommy's basement or married guy dreaming of being able to bang a hot Colombian instead of their bitchy gringa wife, so they talk these girls up and schedule a meet, with no intention of actually going to Colo. When you arrive, you will be able to find what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]Exactly. If a chica quotes you in USD, best policy is to ignore her. She's taking you for a fool right off the bat.

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2652342]Thank you for your insights and yeah no kidding on 600 USD. That's why I was shocked too. What are the places I can go to get girls in Medellin and Cartagena?[/QUOTE]Clock tower in Cartagena, lots of girls there. Medellin depends on your budget and taste.

Weather was great today. Low 80's, sunny, partly cloudy, light breeze. One of the main reasons we are all here. El clima es perfecto. I went for a stroll to Ground Zero with my new mongering buddy who is staying in the room next to mine at The Nutti. He came in on a Canadian passport from Czechoslovakia. His passport has so many stamps on it you can't read it. And he has more than one passport. Cool and interesting dude who has the true mongering vibe. I am learning A LOT from him. He has the heightened baseline paranoia that seems to come in the baggage with most guys from Eastern Europe which I find amusing. I am laughing with him, not at him. Friends.

Anywho, the unplanned stroll turned into a great day. Within 90 seconds of being in sight of Ground Zero, Pumpkin ran up to me and we both knew in an instant that our next stop was one of the nearby Love Motels. I let her choose which one. I booked an hour for the room. Had my mini-Blue Tooth speaker with me. I owed her one orgasm from a previous session when I edged her at The Nutti. She was fantastic. This girl is so special that I offered her a ranked number in my Top Ten. She put in my place. She said, "I don't like boyfriends, they are too jealous. I don't like girls. I don't do anal. I concentrate on my child. " This increased my desire for her.

She delivered, as she always has. She was so hypersensitive after her orgasm that if I stroked her thigh, she would have a full-body twitch. That phase lasted about three minutes. The cost was 60 mil COP plus the price of the room for one hour, I forget, cheap. In a moment of drugged euphoria, (she won't do drugs) I offered to take her and her kid to Disney World for a long weekend. She showed me a foto of her son, 6 years old. Looks just like her. Gorgeous. She smiled and did not comment on the offer.

I was three steps out of the hotel when another puta I knew ran up and we did a you-turn (fucking auto-editor) right back inside to the same hotel. She's a pro, I fucked her and her "sister" before in a three-way but this was the first time we were alone together. She has an awesome well maintained high mileage but still fresh muscular snap-back pussy. See close-up fotos. Great session. 40 mil COP for 30 minutes. She wants to set up a six-way "fiesta" at my hotel with two other chicas we both know, and two new girls she knows. I said sounds good, but I did not commit to a time or place. Yet.

Spanish Teacher came in the evening and gave me a stellar lesson. She is also a good pupil so the best blowjob chica in my line-up, is getting better. Jeje. Did I mention lately that I fucking love Medellin?

By numbers, 3 chicas in one day drags down my average a little. By quality, it was off the hook and chain. Osteeeee Oouuuut!

Apart from hunting chicas from ground, is there whatsapp group or escort site I should be part of to reserve chicas to room?

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2652342]Thank you for your insights and yeah no kidding on 600 USD. That's why I was shocked too. What are the places I can go to get girls in Medellin and Cartagena?[/QUOTE]
For starters, your question is way too broad and even still the standard answer to general questions is RTFF - (read the fucking forum) because all the information you seek is here but no one is going to spoon feed it to anyone. Its just not designed to be a place to post general questions (The answers could be pages long in this case) - its really designed to just make reports that are than read by those seeking info. Its not perfect and yes people do as and answer questions sometimes but I am going to do you one favor

You need to study the forum for a while but whats more is you need to learn how to use the whole forum too. Not just this thread and the Cartagena reports thread. Though changes on the ground in Cartagena really do need to be followed becuase they have this threat to crack down on sex tourism there. But so far it has not stopped guys from gettin chicas in the clubs there.

If you back out of this thread and go back out to the Colombia sub-forum you see the list of threads. Scroll down far enough to the User Blog section and see threads that say like "Cartagena Lists" "Medellin Map and List" Study the maps and the lists. The maps are custom made by World Travel 69 who also puts the lists together and does not get enough thanks for his work on those tools.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2180-Cartagena-Lists&p=2652501[/URL]#post2652501.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4002-Medellin-Map-and-List[/URL]

Then go here and start reading any report related to Medellin or Cartagena - you may have to copy and paste this link

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2016-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2652447]Clock tower in Cartagena, lots of girls there. Medellin depends on your budget and taste.[/QUOTE]I went to clock tower last night a little after 8 and saw no chicas. Saw some cops standing around and mostly tourists.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2652503]For starters, your question is way too broad and even still the standard answer to general questions is RTFF - (read the fucking forum) because all the information you seek is here but no one is going to spoon feed it to anyone. Its just not designed to be a place to post general questions (The answers could be pages long in this case) - its really designed to just make reports that are than read by those seeking info. Its not perfect and yes people do as and answer questions sometimes but I am going to do you one favor

You need to study the forum for a while but whats more is you need to learn how to use the whole forum too. Not just this thread and the Cartagena reports thread. Though changes on the ground in Cartagena really do need to be followed becuase they have this threat to crack down on sex tourism there. But so far it has not stopped guys from gettin chicas in the clubs there.

If you back out of this thread and go back out to the Colombia sub-forum you see the list of threads. Scroll down far enough to the User Blog section and see threads that say like "Cartagena Lists" "Medellin Map and List" Study the maps and the lists. The maps are custom made by World Travel 69 who also puts the lists together and does not get enough thanks for his work on those tools.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2180-Cartagena-Lists&p=2652501[/URL]#post2652501.[/QUOTE]You enlightened me. Thanks a lot my friend.

Maybe a few of you will find this helpful. The question was which hotels to stay in?

Absolutely nothing personal but I don't meet up with random guys from here for a bromance beer date. If I responded to every guy who asked me that I would be taking too much fun time away from fucking, licking and getting sucked, jajaja.

I stay in a lot of cheap hotels that a lot of guys would consider unacceptable. I am more of a shit, shower and shave kinda guy so my needs are not plenty. My favorite hotel went out of business. I've never stayed in Poblado where most guys go. If you want high end in the tourist district, go for Hotel La Dorado on Avenida 70. Other than that, what I usually do is go to [URL]Booking.com[/URL] and put the word Ayenda in the search box. Sign up for the frequent stayer program, I get 15% off everything and their prices are usually better than what you get at the front desk. For the location field you can look at these four choices: Poblado is where most gringos go (Gringo City and the most expensive); Estadio near Avenida 70 (touristy but nice); El Centro (gritty, but near the action); and Laureles (the most "residential" of all the choices). Good luck, and don't forget to Keep On Keepin' On!

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2652316]The only place that may have American football and available chicas is the Mansion ([URL]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/URL]). They have chicas, but I don't know about football. There are five other restaurants that have American football but no available chicas:

Poblado - Hooters (Cra. 37A ##8-44) Very close to Parque Lleras.
- Patrick's Irish Pub (Cra. 37A ##8A-43) One block from Hooters, closer to Parque Lleras.
- Medellin Beer Factory. Two locations (CL 10 #36-16) (Calle 9A #38-26) Had football in the past, don't know now.

Laureles - Medellin Sports Bar (CL. 41A #70-42) First floor of St Peter apartments.

Maybe Philly Steaks Medellin (Cra. 43B #8-51). I have never been there but on Facebook a couple of months ago they said they have American football on TV.[/QUOTE]I will give Medellin Sports bar a thumbs up. Excellent hand made burgers and onion rings and the owner Joe has been know to pass out free shot samples of different whiskeys and bourbons.

So, this is the situation. I got a beautiful 22 year old slim college student who is bisexual. In my book she is a solid an 8. 5 approaching 9. Could be a little bit bustier and taller, but an ass to die for. Sweet and wanting to please me. Here is the problem. She has NEVER orgasmed in her life. And gentlemen, I have tried. I am good at DATY, and I went down on her for over an hour. Close, no finish. I fucked her using the Colitis Alignment Technique (CAT) position until I was exhausted. Again, close but no luck. I have four different vibrators, each specialized in it's focus, like G-Spot and each highly rated, and again, real close but no orgasm. So, we talked it over and we believe the solution is a threesome, with the focus on my 22 year old girl. Her girlfriends are gorda (fat woman) and have not been able to get her off, so I need a different girl. Now, I know of some girls who are bi-sexual but they are just contacts, and I do not know how good they are or their altitude. So, I am asking if anyone has contact on this board know of a girl, good looking, with hopefully some education and willing to join myself and accept this challenge of giving this 22 year old woman her first orgasm this coming weekend. You can message me on board. I treat all girls respectfully and I pay reasonable rates, so no worries about sharing a contact. This is after all, a mission from the far Above or Below. I am not sure if this is a good or evil action. I think good.

[QUOTE=CageMonkey;2652724]So, this is the situation. I got a beautiful 22 year old slim college student who is bisexual. In my book she is a solid an 8. 5 approaching 9. Could be a little bit bustier and taller, but an ass to die for. Sweet and wanting to please me. Here is the problem. She has NEVER orgasmed in her life. And gentlemen, I have tried. I am good at DATY, and I went down on her for over an hour. Close, no finish. I fucked her using the Colitis Alignment Technique (CAT) position until I was exhausted. Again, close but no luck. I have four different vibrators, each specialized in it's focus, like G-Spot and each highly rated, and again, real close but no orgasm. So, we talked it over and we believe the solution is a threesome, with the focus on my 22 year old girl. Her girlfriends are gorda (fat woman) and have not been able to get her off, so I need a different girl. Now, I know of some girls who are bi-sexual but they are just contacts, and I do not know how good they are or their altitude. So, I am asking if anyone has contact on this board know of a girl, good looking, with hopefully some education and willing to join myself and accept this challenge of giving this 22 year old woman her first orgasm this coming weekend. You can message me on board. I treat all girls respectfully and I pay reasonable rates, so no worries about sharing a contact. This is after all, a mission from the far Above or Below. I am not sure if this is a good or evil action. I think good.[/QUOTE]She may still be young to have an O. I wouldn't keep trying to force it.

Are you sure a bi-girl would do it. Maybe she requires the service of a young handsome stud?

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2652738]She may still be young to have an O. I wouldn't keep trying to force it.

Are you sure a bi-girl would do it. Maybe she requires the service of a young handsome stud?[/QUOTE]She might! I am an old fart to be sure. But, I like the challenge. I have done some research on this, it is most likely all mental. She wants to have the Big O, and gets stressed out when she gets close. My idea is to tell her we have all night to get her to orgasm and to relax and enjoy the attention even if no orgasm.

What up bros. Let me start off by saying I have been studying this forum for the last six months and just not reading threads but actually doing the research and prep-work that has been advised. I have 200 plus facebook and I would say about 20 I got to WhatsApp (have not messaged all on facebook yet). Out of that 20 I have got some to video call me I also have tinder and have pulled most of them to whatsapp also. Have messaged back and forth with plenty of them and they know my arrival date but I know that they not just waiting for me LOL but I do put that bug in their ear. I have sent some $10 here and there for videos of them or what not but it's always in conversation of meeting them and trying to put them on a hook hopefully I am doing that right. I talk no prices because it will be March when I arrive 17th to be exact but the same message is always "of course I would love to meet you when you get here" and then they give their whatsapp and we message from there. I have what I believe to be very good prospects lined up and others I believe will come through if some don't. The casas, la Isla, Parque Lleras, centro and milerotics I am going to do the because from my research this is what you bros have mapped out for me here. I am going to be solo yes I am so I know the risk with that. I am in an Airbnb with 24 hours security that said absolutely no one comes up with out ID I told them how important that was to me. I can have up to 4 people in the place including me with no problem no plans at all to have more than one. I am 45 and don't drink I use to heavily not anymore I am careful but nothing is full proof. I am 2 months away still on my research hunger so I will continue to learn. But from the bros who know this game the important question I am asking is am I doing it right? FYI I am also not going to get over there and fuck up the church's money so I will not overspend I know it's enough not to have to I know how to say no gracias. So I want inflate no prices. Thanks for letting me to put this out there all and any feedback welcomed.

[QUOTE=CageMonkey;2652724]So, this is the situation. I got a beautiful 22 year old slim college student who is bisexual. In my book she is a solid an 8. 5 approaching 9. Could be a little bit bustier and taller, but an ass to die for. Sweet and wanting to please me. Here is the problem. She has NEVER orgasmed in her life. And gentlemen, I have tried. I am good at DATY, and I went down on her for over an hour. Close, no finish. I fucked her using the Colitis Alignment Technique (CAT) position until I was exhausted. Again, close but no luck. I have four different vibrators, each specialized in it's focus, like G-Spot and each highly rated, and again, real close but no orgasm. So, we talked it over and we believe the solution is a threesome, with the focus on my 22 year old girl. Her girlfriends are gorda (fat woman) and have not been able to get her off, so I need a different girl. Now, I know of some girls who are bi-sexual but they are just contacts, and I do not know how good they are or their altitude. So, I am asking if anyone has contact on this board know of a girl, good looking, with hopefully some education and willing to join myself and accept this challenge of giving this 22 year old woman her first orgasm this coming weekend. You can message me on board. I treat all girls respectfully and I pay reasonable rates, so no worries about sharing a contact. This is after all, a mission from the far Above or Below. I am not sure if this is a good or evil action. I think good.[/QUOTE]Let her fool around with the vibrators by herself at your place when you're not there. She can't take the gear home and she's too embarassed to let go when you're there. Go away for a few days and leave her alone. It's not going to happen by hammering away on it.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2652182]Wolf report inspired me to do a little research on the Church. I need to correct my report. Just read that it was built by immigrants and had to be rebuilt do to poor construction of the original. It's cool to know that others here enjoy some of the history in addition to enjoying something that others have enjoyed in the city and next to the Church for a few hundred years.[/QUOTE]The Metropolitan Cathedral of Medellin at Parque de Bolivar (Catedral Metropolitana de Medellin) is also worth a look, it is the largest Roman Catholic church in Medellin, built in a Romanesque style with some Byzantine details. The church is dedicated to the Virgin Mary and was built over a period of over 50 years from 1875 to the late 1920's.

The church was built using solid brick construction with about 1,120,000 adobe bricks, which makes it one of the largest baked clay structures in the world. The Cathedral organ was manufactured in Germany by the organ maker Walcker Orgelbau of Ludwigsburg, Baden-Wrttemberg in 1932 and cost 25,000 dollars, a lot of $ in those days.

It has a working original Otis elevator between the walls from 1933. The black & white pic is from 1922 and shows how much the city has grown.

To add some sex guide stuff the side street CL 55 usually has women? Hanging outside the hotel Milan as seen in this streetview.

[QUOTE=CageMonkey;2652741]She might! I am an old fart to be sure. But, I like the challenge. I have done some research on this, it is most likely all mental. She wants to have the Big O, and gets stressed out when she gets close. My idea is to tell her we have all night to get her to orgasm and to relax and enjoy the attention even if no orgasm.[/QUOTE]Prescription for O.

Tell her no sex for 2 weeks.

Then give her a few drinks.

Get her in the bedroom and blindfold her. She will only have her smell and touch sensories.

Slowly touch and kiss her. Occasionally slip your balls and cock in and out of her mouth.

Build it up slowly. Keep her blindfolded. Enter her slowly. Do a slow fuck and build it up. Do not go into a hard fuck. Let it build up.

Do this on a few occasions.

[QUOTE=CageMonkey;2652724]So, this is the situation. I got a beautiful 22 year old slim college student who is bisexual. In my book she is a solid an 8. 5 approaching 9. Could be a little bit bustier and taller, but an ass to die for. Sweet and wanting to please me. Here is the problem. She has NEVER orgasmed in her life. And gentlemen, I have tried. I am good at DATY, and I went down on her for over an hour. Close, no finish. I fucked her using the Colitis Alignment Technique (CAT) position until I was exhausted. Again, close but no luck. I have four different vibrators, each specialized in it's focus, like G-Spot and each highly rated, and again, real close but no orgasm. So, we talked it over and we believe the solution is a threesome, with the focus on my 22 year old girl. Her girlfriends are gorda (fat woman) and have not been able to get her off, so I need a different girl. Now, I know of some girls who are bi-sexual but they are just contacts, and I do not know how good they are or their altitude. So, I am asking if anyone has contact on this board know of a girl, good looking, with hopefully some education and willing to join myself and accept this challenge of giving this 22 year old woman her first orgasm this coming weekend. You can message me on board. I treat all girls respectfully and I pay reasonable rates, so no worries about sharing a contact. This is after all, a mission from the far Above or Below. I am not sure if this is a good or evil action. I think good.[/QUOTE]I think John Clayton may be on the right track. NLet her go to it with the toys. Magic wand is nearly fool proof. LOL I have started off with it many times but it never seems to be in my hands once things get going. They always seem to take over- also. Could be she is straight up gay and would prefer a woman. Also - it is rare but there are some women who will never get that bell to chime. On the plus side. I can't imagine a better quest. Keep fighting the good fight CM.

[QUOTE=CageMonkey;2652741]She might! I am an old fart to be sure. But, I like the challenge. I have done some research on this, it is most likely all mental. She wants to have the Big O, and gets stressed out when she gets close. My idea is to tell her we have all night to get her to orgasm and to relax and enjoy the attention even if no orgasm.[/QUOTE]I'll do it. I'll join you. And I won't even charge you. How's that for a deal! . I'll even wear a wig if it helps.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2652756]The Metropolitan Cathedral of Medellin at Parque de Bolivar (Catedral Metropolitana de Medellin) is also worth a look, it is the largest Roman Catholic church in Medellin, built in a Romanesque style with some Byzantine details. The church is dedicated to the Virgin Mary and was built over a period of over 50 years from 1875 to the late 1920's.

The church was built using solid brick construction with about 1,120,000 adobe bricks, which makes it one of the largest baked clay structures in the world. The Cathedral organ was manufactured in Germany by the organ maker Walcker Orgelbau of Ludwigsburg, Baden-Wrttemberg in 1932 and cost 25,000 dollars, a lot of $ in those days.

It has a working original Otis elevator between the walls from 1933. The black & white pic is from 1922 and shows how much the city has grown.

To add some sex guide stuff the side street CL 55 usually has women? Hanging outside the hotel Milan as seen in this streetview.[/QUOTE]I think we are talking about 2 different churches. This one is spectacular for sure. The other one is Iglesia De La Veracruz.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2652761]I'll do it. I'll join you. And I won't even charge you. How's that for a deal! . I'll even wear a wig if it helps.[/QUOTE]My nomination for post of the month if there is one on this board! So, do you swallow?

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2652764]I think we are talking about 2 different churches. This one is spectacular for sure. The other one is Iglesia De La Veracruz.[/QUOTE]Yes, the 2 churches are about 8 blocks apart.

I was in a similar situation that really bothered me because I just couldn't get my GF to orgasm and she had never experienced one. Somehow all the stars aligned while one of her hot friends (preggo at the time) was over and we decided to have a threesome. I was on top of the preggo chic ploughing away and motioned my GF to come closer as she was busy fidgeting with something in the corner. I had her walk up to my face and I started eating her pussy while still ploughing away. After about 5 minutes she orgasmed so hard that her knees and legs gave in and she collapsed on the floor. Till date I don't understand what happened but you may just find out. Funny thing is I don't know if they are it were ever bi or not. Many years have passed but she still thinks I'm the man for making it happen.

[QUOTE=Norbert61;2652758]I think John Clayton may be on the right track. NLet her go to it with the toys. Magic wand is nearly fool proof. LOL I have started off with it many times but it never seems to be in my hands once things get going. They always seem to take over- also. Could be she is straight up gay and would prefer a woman. Also - it is rare but there are some women who will never get that bell to chime. On the plus side. I can't imagine a better quest. Keep fighting the good fight CM.[/QUOTE]I have that, and more different vibrators. I have a U shaped one that vibrates both the G-spot and her clit at the same time, get's her quivering like jello in an earthquake but never orgasm. She gets close to the big O, but never crosses the threshold. I actually had this situation before. I had a mid 20's Thai girl who never had an Orgasm but I gave her one with oral sex. Took over an hour but I got it done. In any case, I agree, this is a fun quest. She is enthusiastic about the idea of a threesome. And if she really likes women over men then I would love to see what she does with women for she is pretty wild with me. There are also little things like insisting taking our showers together which makes me believe she is truly bi, or at least, does not mind being with me. And, in an interesting juxtaposition, I have another girl that I can make her have an orgasm just by sucking on her tits. I love Colombia and Colombian women!

[QUOTE=CageMonkey;2652797]I have that, and more different vibrators. I have a U shaped one that vibrates both the G-spot and her clit at the same time, get's her quivering like jello in an earthquake but never orgasm. She gets close to the big O, but never crosses the threshold. I actually had this situation before. I had a mid 20's Thai girl who never had an Orgasm but I gave her one with oral sex. Took over an hour but I got it done. In any case, I agree, this is a fun quest. She is enthusiastic about the idea of a threesome. And if she really likes women over men then I would love to see what she does with women for she is pretty wild with me. There are also little things like insisting taking our showers together which makes me believe she is truly bi, or at least, does not mind being with me. And, in an interesting juxtaposition, I have another girl that I can make her have an orgasm just by sucking on her tits. I love Colombia and Colombian women![/QUOTE]I guess you learn something here everyday. I'm having a hard time imagining a woman in her early twenties who is sexually active and into sex not ever having an orgasm.

I wish you luck. I hope you find something that works. But it's not unheard of for a younger woman to NOT be able to orgasm. Some woman don't find the secret until they are in their late 20's and beyond. I have found that some of the ones who drink a lot or use certain drugs also have a harder time. I remember having one girl at the Mansion years ago fuck me all night without cumming because that is what coke did to her. My ex-girlfriend had a real hard time cumming and even when she did, it wasn't that great for her. There might have been a drop of liquid. It just didn't happen easy for her. But she loved to take it doggy.

PS - I should also mention that many think that strong vibration or strong licking or rubbing always does the trick. Some girls like it very soft and the result is very powerful. I personally enjoy a soft BBBJ with a lot of tongue licking the shaft....gets me off way better than too much sucking, especially when they try to use teeth and think you will like it.

[QUOTE=CageMonkey;2652724]So, this is the situation. I got a beautiful 22 year old slim college student who is bisexual. In my book she is a solid an 8. 5 approaching 9. Could be a little bit bustier and taller, but an ass to die for. Sweet and wanting to please me. Here is the problem. She has NEVER orgasmed in her life. And gentlemen, I have tried. I am good at DATY, and I went down on her for over an hour. Close, no finish. I fucked her using the Colitis Alignment Technique (CAT) position until I was exhausted. Again, close but no luck. I have four different vibrators, each specialized in it's focus, like G-Spot and each highly rated, and again, real close but no orgasm. So, we talked it over and we believe the solution is a threesome, with the focus on my 22 year old girl. Her girlfriends are gorda (fat woman) and have not been able to get her off, so I need a different girl. Now, I know of some girls who are bi-sexual but they are just contacts, and I do not know how good they are or their altitude. So, I am asking if anyone has contact on this board know of a girl, good looking, with hopefully some education and willing to join myself and accept this challenge of giving this 22 year old woman her first orgasm this coming weekend. You can message me on board. I treat all girls respectfully and I pay reasonable rates, so no worries about sharing a contact. This is after all, a mission from the far Above or Below. I am not sure if this is a good or evil action. I think good.[/QUOTE]

This place seems to have many good features including good location, price, and my favorite being the rooms have private jacuzzis. Any feedback guys?

You guys know a lot more about it than I do. I should probably buy some toys and Medellin has some great sex shops. I remember this one chica in college who could not have an orgasm in less than three hours of solid oral, or at least I couldn't bring it out in her sooner than that. We had to schedule our sex sessions in advance.

Amazonia is still pregnant and now she tells me her due date has been changed to later this month and now she is classified as high risk. I can't really tell WTF is going on but she is the most honest and sweet chica in my line up, not P4 P, and the best I can tell is that it is gross medical mismanagement. As if things weren't bad enough her brother got murdered yesterday on her birthday in a gang related incident. He was only 21 yo and they were very close.

Strangely, my number one girlfriend Catgirl's birthday is 3 days before Amazonia's. Two years ago, her best friend got murdered by the cartel in Bogota for trying to sell cocaine freelance, two days before her birthday. They cut off his face (not his head, his face, I have the foto) and one of his hands. So my Numero Uno and Tres girls have bad memories on their birthdays now. Colombia can be a violent place, there is no doubt about it. I look at it as Colombia is a nice and generally safe place unless you piss off the wrong people, and then your life is not worth a plug nickel. An assassination can be bought for $300 USD at the Officina in San Javier no questions asked, so I guess that's more than a nickel. The Officina represents the remnants of what is left over from Pablo Escobar's gang, and I used to walk by their front door on a regular basis when Catgirl lived nearby.

Scarlet my Number Two girl got swooped by another girl and had her cell phone stolen, and knocked unconscious from getting stomped. Her story is also legit based on her bad bruising and the panic mode she has been in for the few days since the event from being without a cell phone. This will make the third cell phone I have replaced for her. Like another one of my chicas, Secret told me once, "Without my cell phone, I would cease to exist" and that culture is pervasive for all chicas here.

So life is not all fun and games in Medellin, obviously. Sometimes you have to keep a body count.

There is some pale blue tussi going around that is strongest I have ever seen. One of my girls who has a nose like a Hoover vacuum cleaner (or Dyson if you prefer) went through less than a fifth of her normal evening intake. I never heard her say "no mas" before when it came to tussi so that should tell you something. I am staying away from it.

Pumpkin messaged me asking for two hours of work because she has an "immediate need." I got to respect a chica who wants to work for her money instead of just asking for it. I gave her a time for tomorrow after my teeth cleaning.

#7 Purrfekt Piel and #4 Super Groovy came over in the afternoon and evening. Purrfekt is almost six months pregnant. Solid, dependable performances which is why they are in my Top Ten.

My new next door neighbor at The Nutti understands five languages and is fluent in Spanish. He is an experienced international mongerer, and an incredible wingman. I am getting an amazing amount of the most valuable commodity in the world for free, accurate and useful information.

Fotos are all Purfekt Piel and Super Groovy.

I already mentioned the one girl who needed three hours of oral to come, you could almost set your watch to it.

I had one girlfriend, a beauty queen, literally. Her talent in the beauty competition was roller skating so you can imagine the legs and ass on her. She never had an orgasm until after her mother died and then her orgasms were off the hook and chain. Some kind of guilt complex.

So if we take her out of the equation, then I can only remember one girlfriend who didn't orgasm. Chinese. She would get so close but never tip over the edge. She freaked me out a little bit one time when she started rocking her body so hard when I was finger fucking her while she was sitting in the passenger seat of my car screaming, "Make me come, Ostee! Over and over. I failed.

In a Pay for Play situation I don't really keep track of the chicas orgasms since I am paying for it and not trying necessarily to pleasure my partner, although often times I do. I remember back in the day the saying in America was that a prostitute never had a real orgasm. Times have changed and that saying certainly does not hold true in Medellin. I have never been to a place where girls like to fuck more than here in Medellin, and that includes Brazil.

I dunno, 20-30, girls told me I gave them the first orgasms of their lives and that was always with oral. Super Groovy told me I was the first guy who ever gave her an orgasm without a vibrator and that was oral. Oh yeah, one trick I use for tough cases is while I am licking their clit in missionary I cradle my chin in the palm of my hand. This allows my index and or my middle finger to naturally reach in their pussy and tickle their G-spot. If you don't know where the G-spot is, if she is laying on her back, reach up and behind the pubic bone in the middle. You should feel soft tissue with ridges, on either side it will be smooth. Stroke back and forth in the direction of her belly button. This combined with oral on the clit almost always works for me. Just do the oral first and save the combo oral and finger for the last half.

I saw a pattern with girls who came only if they were prepped with oral first then giving a good dick pounding. Position mattered. I remember this one chica as long as my dick was at full mast and the tip could hit this one spot deep, slightly off to angle, it was pressing a magic button and she would climax. Obviously not the classic G-spot base on the previous description unless my dick was three inches long and pointing straight up when hard. I had girls who could only come in doggy, both from straight fucking and oral, someone mentioned that I think already.

Shit, now a bunch of memories are flooding back. Maybe I know a little more about this subject than I thought. But I will stop for now, hopefully the best memories surfaced first. I believe there can be a huge mental or psychological component, although I think some chicas are just not wired for it, and they can still have fufilling sexual lives. If a chica was truly "frigid" I guess I would reach for a vibrator, I dunno, never had to and I didn't try with the Chinese chick. I believe in feedback, as in while you are going down on her, ask her, "faster, slower, harder, softer, here, there?" Fun topic. In closing, no one will ever solve the solution to the mysterious female orgasm. I've had several females tell me they had mind-blowing orgasms during a session and I didn't even know it happened. Go figure. Ostee Out.

[QUOTE=Vicman;2647869]I went to parque Lleras in my last trip to medellin and there was a club that has "Lleras park" written in lights. What is the name of that place? Is that club gusto? I went in with a group of friends and it was loaded with girls willing to leave with me, but I did not partake. I definitely want to return. How much are the prices? Will these girls come to my hotel room? What are the recommended hotels in this area?[/QUOTE]It's called Lleras Park bar, Moet is on top of it and Gustos is around the corner inside the park. I prefer Lleras Park to Gustos.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2652756]The Metropolitan Cathedral of Medellin at Parque de Bolivar (Catedral Metropolitana de Medellin) is also worth a look, it is the largest Roman Catholic church in Medellin, built in a Romanesque style with some Byzantine details. The church is dedicated to the Virgin Mary and was built over a period of over 50 years from 1875 to the late 1920's.

The church was built using solid brick construction with about 1,120,000 adobe bricks, which makes it one of the largest baked clay structures in the world. The Cathedral organ was manufactured in Germany by the organ maker Walcker Orgelbau of Ludwigsburg, Baden-Wrttemberg in 1932 and cost 25,000 dollars, a lot of $ in those days.

It has a working original Otis elevator between the walls from 1933. The black & white pic is from 1922 and shows how much the city has grown.

To add some sex guide stuff the side street CL 55 usually has women? Hanging outside the hotel Milan as seen in this streetview.[/QUOTE]Another interesting bit of history on Medellin Churches with flashback pictures. Same as the Veracruz as far as the women and women? Is this a Latin thing or common throughout the world to have working girls working near a church? Safety reasons maybe? Even the other type of girl likes to be around both of these churches. I will need to go inside this one. It is truly spectacular inside. Excellent report Wolf!

I use it as a time-management tool. Maybe you are too smart and know too much about Medellin and other topics and that challenges my ego. To keep me from getting dragged into endless circular arguments that usually lead to nowhere, because we are not following any formal debate rules, I put people on my Ignore List so I am not tempted to spend more time on line. The Ignore List is one of my favorite features of this Web site. My List is fluid and it changes.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2652761]I'll do it. I'll join you. And I won't even charge you. How's that for a deal! . I'll even wear a wig if it helps.[/QUOTE]Jeje. Keep On Keepin' On.

Huh? Seriously.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2652808]I guess you learn something here everyday. I'm having a hard time imagining a woman in her early twenties who is sexually active and into sex not ever having an orgasm.[/QUOTE]

Which one has the glue freaks outside!

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2652764]I think we are talking about 2 different churches. This one is spectacular for sure. The other one is Iglesia De La Veracruz.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kafka;2653009]Which one has the glue freaks outside![/QUOTE]There's nothing like a good glue sniffer, commonly referred to as a" 'sacalero" to service you if you can stand the stench.

Literally anything goes with them, meaning you can do just about anything you want with them, as most times they won't have a clue what your doing to them, as they can be so spaced out.

If your looking to do one, you will find them around the Veracruz area.

Pretty hard to miss, just look for thin, skinny, emaciated looking Chica's with a small plastic bag in one hand.

You can't miss them, and some are very pretty, with killer tight bodies, and for guys who like thin Chicas, you've got it made, as I have never seen a fat or overweight Sacalero.

Sometimes guy's unknowingly have gone with them, myself included years ago, and after my experience, I decided it wasn't for me.

The Chica I went with didn't have a bag with her, was thin and attractive which I like.

But in the room the stench was bad coming from her body.

Similar to a very heavy smoker with the nicotine smell, but worse.

[QUOTE=Atlnightmare;2652750]What up bros. I have sent some $10 here and there for videos of them or what not but it's always in conversation of meeting them and trying to put them on a hook hopefully I am doing that right. I am asking is am I doing it right? FYI I am also not going to get over there and fuck up the church's money so I will not overspend I know it's enough not to have to I know how to say no gracias. So I want inflate no prices. Thanks for letting me to put this out there all and any feedback welcomed.[/QUOTE]Not so sure. You already paid some $ 10 for videos of them. If they got tons of videos out there like that they must be real pro. You are starting off already inflating price and for next guy in line. If you read the forum past six mo back I don't think any body here does that. Imagine what would they ask when you meet them. When you pay them to get their numbers they will hustle you more.

[QUOTE=CoolGregg;2653189]Not so sure. You already paid some $ 10 for videos of them. If they got tons of videos out there like that they must be real pro. You are starting off already inflating price and for next guy in line. If you read the forum past six mo back I don't think any body here does that. Imagine what would they ask when you meet them. When you pay them to get their numbers they will hustle you more.[/QUOTE]Not a lot and I no how to say no it will not be no hustle at all. If I give money it is because I choose to but $10 not going to make or break no one. If anyone when I get there talk more than 200 mill at the most 3 I know it is to many other avenues for less. My question was not so much about a video but about the whole of what I wrote. I do appreciate the feedback and it's a wrap on any video or whatever I agree with you it was harmless to me because I know what my cost limit will be.

[QUOTE=CoolGregg;2653189]If you read the forum past six mo back I don't think any body here does that.[/QUOTE]Tons of guys do it, few have the guts to admit it. I paid for one video to girls from Medellin, when I was already here. I already fucked one of them a bunch of times who was desperate for money. I told her I had to get something back for my money. I made a list of things in writing I wanted to see. I knew her roommate was hawt as fuck, and I told her that that she needed to join in. They did it. I overpaid but that's not the point. She got the money and in her mind it allowed her to retain some self respect, she nor her roommate looked upon it as a degrading experience. They wanted to do it. If I tell the rest of the story you wouldn't believe me but I'll tell you anyway and fuck the haters. Those exact same two chicas are coming over tonight for some 3-way action, one for "free", the other for 150 + 20 taxi mil COP. I'll take fotos, not a shocker, jeje. Ostee out.

I don't like to go with hookers who do drugs, partly because I don't want to share my drugs, but I do just want to point out one more time, and only one more time, that a 'sacalero' would be a GUY. I don't care what people are into, and I know I pointed this out one time before, and I won't point it out a third time. But in Spanish the adjective has to match the noun in both number and gender. And, the male gender dominates if there are both genders in the group.

Sacaleros: Glue sniffers in general but at least one must be male. If you have 100 glue sniffers and even one is male, they are all 'sacaleros.'

Sacalero: One male glue sniffer.

Sacalera: One female glue sniffer.

Sacaleras: More than one female glue sniffer. Every single glue sniffer must be female. Even one male turns the whole group into 'sacaleros.'

So I don't care who is looking for [I]sacaleros[/I] and who is looking for [I]sacaleras[/I]. I just want to make sure everybody gets what they are looking for:

[QUOTE=Huacho;2653199]...But in Spanish the adjective has to match the noun in both number and gender. And, the male gender dominates if there are both genders in the group.

Sacaleros: Glue sniffers in general but at least one must be male. If you have 100 glue sniffers and even one is male, they are all 'sacaleros.'

Sacalero: One male glue sniffer.

Sacalera: One female glue sniffer.

Sacaleras: More than one female glue sniffer. Every single glue sniffer must be female. Even one male turns the whole group into '
...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the grammar lesson.

[QUOTE=Atlnightmare;2652750]What up bros. Let me start off by saying I have been studying this forum for the last six months and just not reading threads but actually doing the research and prep-work that has been advised. I have 200 plus facebook and I would say about 20 I got to WhatsApp (have not messaged all on facebook yet). . The casas, la Isla, Parque Lleras, centro and milerotics.[/QUOTE]You are doing fine. Its good that you can get a hold of these chicas and put a bug in their ear that you are going to be there on whatever time period. It works well for me. I would not worry about paying money for videos if its a couple of bucks as long as you enjoy them. Keep in mind that Facebook chicas are 150 k Colombian Pesos (COP) for a 6-7 200 k COP for 8-9 and alsways add 20 k cop for taxi. If the chica is what you think is mre than an 8. 5 she and has a repuatation for good service she may charge 250 k COP or more its up to you but negociate negotiate and be prepared to walk away if she tries to scam.

Also you mention Lleras Park but do not take it serious as a place to go monger. There are a few SWs in Lleras but the choices are limited and for the service you get the price. Standard in Lleras is 200 k but that is inflated price becuase that is for a quickie (twenty munutes to an hour) with no guarantee for GFE. With a Facebook chica you are going to negociate 2 hours full GFE and BBBJ.

I came across one my first day in Medellin by the church and the next day I booked a flight to the beach. I can't imagine being in a room with one alone.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2653129]There's nothing like a good glue sniffer, commonly referred to as a" 'sacalero" to service you if you can stand the stench.

Literally anything goes with them, meaning you can do just about anything you want with them, as most times they won't have a clue what your doing to them, as they can be so spaced out.

If your looking to do one, you will find them around the Veracruz area.

Pretty hard to miss, just look for thin, skinny, emaciated looking Chica's with a small plastic bag in one hand.

You can't miss them, and some are very pretty, with killer tight bodies, and for guys who like thin Chicas, you've got it made, as I have never seen a fat or overweight Sacalero.

Sometimes guy's unknowingly have gone with them, myself included years ago, and after my experience, I decided it wasn't for me.

The Chica I went with didn't have a bag with her, was thin and attractive which I like.

But in the room the stench was bad coming from her body.

Similar to a very heavy smoker with the nicotine smell, but worse.[/QUOTE]

I


My only suggestion would be don't over plan....'ve been out of for 50 years. Probably the first blowjob in 1974 was the best. I couldn't believe that all I needed to do to get a blowjob was to pay 20 bucks.
Just trust your instincts and have a good time


[QUOTE=Atlnightmare;2652750]What up bros. Let me start off by saying I have been studying this forum for the last six months and just not reading threads but actually doing the research and prep-work that has been advised. I have 200 plus facebook and I would say about 20 I got to WhatsApp (have not messaged all on facebook yet). Out of that 20 I have got some to video call me I also have tinder and have pulled most of them to whatsapp also. Have messaged back and forth with plenty of them and they know my arrival date but I know that they not just waiting for me LOL but I do put that bug in their ear. I have sent some $10 here and there for videos of them or what not but it's always in conversation of meeting them and trying to put them on a hook hopefully I am doing that right. I talk no prices because it will be March when I arrive 17th to be exact but the same message is always "of course I would love to meet you when you get here" and then they give their whatsapp and we message from there. I have what I believe to be very good prospects lined up and others I believe will come through if some don't. The casas, la Isla, Parque Lleras, centro and milerotics I am going to do the because from my research this is what you bros have mapped out for me here. I am going to be solo yes I am so I know the risk with that. I am in an Airbnb with 24 hours security that said absolutely no one comes up with out ID I told them how important that was to me. I can have up to 4 people in the place including me with no problem no plans at all to have more than one. I am 45 and don't drink I use to heavily not anymore I am careful but nothing is full proof. I am 2 months away still on my research hunger so I will continue to learn. But from the bros who know this game the important question I am asking is am I doing it right? FYI I am also not going to get over there and fuck up the church's money so I will not overspend I know it's enough not to have to I know how to say no gracias. So I want inflate no prices. Thanks for letting me to put this out there all and any feedback welcomed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kafka;2653352]My only suggestion would be don't over plan....'ve been out of for 50 years. Probably the first blowjob in 1974 was the best. I couldn't believe that all I needed to do to get a blowjob was to pay 20 bucks.[/QUOTE]Wow, $ 20 USD for a blow job almost 50 years ago, which I'm assuming took place in the USA.

And nowadays, for the equivalent of that amount, or about 80,000 Colombian Pesos, this will get you two "ratos", including a blow job, and short time room in Centro.

You probably could of never imagined anything like this back in 1974 regarding what things would cost fifty years in the future.

[QUOTE=CoolGregg;2653189]Not so sure. You already paid some $ 10 for videos of them. If they got tons of videos out there like that they must be real pro. You are starting off already inflating price and for next guy in line. If you read the forum past six mo back I don't think any body here does that. Imagine what would they ask when you meet them. When you pay them to get their numbers they will hustle you more.[/QUOTE]I've done that. Starting almost 2 years ago, for the first 6-8 months of the pandemic, I bought videos from quite a few girls. Many of the girls have disappeared since then, a few still contact me from time to time and 1 talks to me daily.

Some of the ones who disappeared, after I'd bought videos, decided to constantly ask for money, or to make up stories to get more money. They got blocked. The ones who contact me occasionally are pretty straightforward. They'll say they have new videos and ask if I'm interested. Usually I say no and no hassle.

There's really no definite type who will offer to sell videos. Some are as hardcore as they come. Others are regular girls who lost income from the pandemic and are trying to get paid.

It doesn't inflate the price for the next guy, although they might ask him if he wants to buy videos. Some of them might insist on buying videos, but that just makes them easier to weed out.

What they ask when you meet them depends on the girl, and how involved you have gotten with her. I can't think of any who wanted more than normal, and 1 just asked for taxi money, although I paid the going rate.

It's not much different than the RFMs, requests for money. Except, you're getting something in return. Some girls who ask for money have a legitimate need, some are just trying to take advantage of you. Some really appreciate the money and will happily pay you back in services. Others will figure if you were generous once, you're a sucker to be bled dry.

My opinion has always been, if you want to send money, or buy videos, there's only one reason why you should do it. Only do it if it's something you want to do.

Don't do it if you think you'll get special favors, extra access or cheaper sex. Don't do it because of whatever need the girl claims to have. Don't do it to be her white knight. All of those things mean you'll always be handing out money, because there will always be someone looking for a handout.

[QUOTE=Atlnightmare;2653192]Not a lot and I no how to say no it will not be no hustle at all. If I give money it is because I choose to but $10 not going to make or break no one. If anyone when I get there talk more than 200 mill at the most 3 I know it is to many other avenues for less. My question was not so much about a video but about the whole of what I wrote. I do appreciate the feedback and it's a wrap on any video or whatever I agree with you it was harmless to me because I know what my cost limit will be.[/QUOTE]It sounds to me like you're doing fine. You'll know for sure in March. Make your plans, learn what you can and keep your options open.

Kafka,

Thank you for that I have been obsessed with the planning to make it as smooth and safe and cheap as possible. Will be in Medellin for 12 days and Cartagena for 5.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2653291]You are doing fine. Its good that you can get a hold of these chicas and put a bug in their ear that you are going to be there on whatever time period. It works well for me. I would not worry about paying money for videos if its a couple of bucks as long as you enjoy them. Keep in mind that Facebook chicas are 150 k Colombian Pesos (COP) for a 6-7 200 k COP for 8-9 and alsways add 20 k cop for taxi. If the chica is what you think is mre than an 8. 5 she and has a repuatation for good service she may charge 250 k COP or more its up to you but negociate negotiate and be prepared to walk away if she tries to scam.

Also you mention Lleras Park but do not take it serious as a place to go monger. There are a few SWs in Lleras but the choices are limited and for the service you get the price. Standard in Lleras is 200 k but that is inflated price becuase that is for a quickie (twenty munutes to an hour) with no guarantee for GFE. With a Facebook chica you are going to negociate 2 hours full GFE and BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Thank you and I am surely looking for GFE so I hear you about the park. But if I get one from the park or centro to agree to come back to the place with me do you think that would that change the GFE situation?

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2653195]Tons of guys do it, few have the guts to admit it. I paid for one video to girls from Medellin, when I was already here. I already fucked one of them a bunch of times who was desperate for money. I told her I had to get something back for my money. I made a list of things in writing I wanted to see. I knew her roommate was hawt as fuck, and I told her that that she needed to join in. They did it. I overpaid but that's not the point. She got the money and in her mind it allowed her to retain some self respect, she nor her roommate looked upon it as a degrading experience. They wanted to do it. If I tell the rest of the story you wouldn't believe me but I'll tell you anyway and fuck the haters. Those exact same two chicas are coming over tonight for some 3-way action, one for "free", the other for 150 + 20 taxi mil COP. I'll take fotos, not a shocker, jeje. Ostee out.[/QUOTE]I respect this thanks.

[QUOTE=SplareMe;2652884]This place seems to have many good features including good location, price, and my favorite being the rooms have private jacuzzis. Any feedback guys?[/QUOTE]Ya. Not bad. I stayed there. It is pricey for what you get but it was good and they are friendly. No laundry and if you want to cook in you can but it is a pretty rudimentary kitchen- I had a two bedroom cause that's what they had and it was great cause the one bedroom was separated from the outside wall by the living area and a patio door so it was nice and quiet to sleep. This left another bedroom and bathroom for chica activities. Also nice because you don't have to worry about the chicas getting in your stuff. I should mention that they are strict on cedula control for your visitors so make sure any girls you have over have papers- there was a heartbreaking incident with a hot AF Vennie.

You must wait for the Tourists to leave before the Chicas show up.

[QUOTE=Midnighter99;2652609]I went to clock tower last night a little after 8 and saw no chicas. Saw some cops standing around and mostly tourists.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AtlNightmare;2652750]I have sent some $10 here and there for videos of them or what not[/QUOTE]Why? There are tons of free videos on the internet. Or is there something special in having a video of the hooker you are talking to? I remember being at a chick's house and fucking her all night for $30. Meanwhile she showed me her paypal of all the dudes sending her up to hundreds of dollars for videos. The crazy part was that some of the guys were in the same city and could actually come fuck her all night for the same $30 that I was, but would rather have the videos instead. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

I am a cut to the chase guy. I was in a strip club in Florida with another board member. I asked the stripper how much to fuck. She said come into the back room and buy some dances first then we could talk about it. I asked her why would I buy dances when that is money that I could put towards fucking you. Same as why would I buy videos when that is money that I could put towards fucking you.

I met a chick online in Barranquilla. She started asking me about buying videos. I asked if she was a hooker and she said no. She does not sleep with people for money. She only sells content. I said but I am in Barranquilla now. I do not need to buy any videos; I need to see you in person. 5 minutes later she was asking if I would pay for her company. She said she wanted 200,000 pesos plus taxi. I told her no way and that I would give her 120,000 pesos. She said okay, pay the Indriver too and she was on her way.

You guys make things more complicated and spend unnecessary money and time when you are trying to procure these chicks without being in town or do not plan to be in town in the next couple of days.

****Now wait for JjBabbleOn to say how this post was full of lies and it is not possible for any of this to really happen.

[QUOTE=AtlNightmare;2653411]Thank you and I am surely looking for GFE so I hear you about the park. But if I get one from the park or centro to agree to come back to the place with me do you think that would that change the GFE situation?[/QUOTE]The "place" does not have anyhting do do with it. You can try to negotiate GFE with any chica for that matter. I am just speaking from my personal experience in Lleras as my example, I never had a good GFE experience and most. I have never gone to Lleras for the sole purpose of mongering. Have gone there to people watch often and then if I get a little drunk and happen to see something walking around that temps me then I take them back to my apartment.

If you have enough FB contacts its way better than going to Lleras anyway. FB chicas are not as apt to be as hardcore as the Lleras chicas and you get a better variety to choose from- more time to negotiate with chica than the on the spot thing you have to do at Lleras.

As for centro I have not mongered there but I read this thread regularty and most guys do not take those chicas far from centro. Depending on traffic and where you are staying (I'm thinking about Laureles or Poblado) then the chica is looking at anything from 40 - over an hour of roundtrip travel time and will want more money and then once you start negotiating for GFE and paying for the taxi ride both ways you might just wish you had gotten a 150 k chica off of Facebook and save yourself the travel time.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2653483]The "place" does not have anyhting do do with it. You can try to negotiate GFE with any chica for that matter. I am just speaking from my personal experience in Lleras as my example, I never had a good GFE experience and most. I have never gone to Lleras for the sole purpose of mongering. Have gone there to people watch often and then if I get a little drunk and happen to see something walking around that temps me then I take them back to my apartment.

If you have enough FB contacts its way better than going to Lleras anyway. FB chicas are not as apt to be as hardcore as the Lleras chicas and you get a better variety to choose from- more time to negotiate with chica than the on the spot thing you have to do at Lleras.

As for centro I have not mongered there but I read this thread regularty and most guys do not take those chicas far from centro. Depending on traffic and where you are staying (I'm thinking about Laureles or Poblado) then the chica is looking at anything from 40 - over an hour of roundtrip travel time and will want more money and then once you start negotiating for GFE and paying for the taxi ride both ways you might just wish you had gotten a 150 k chica off of Facebook and save yourself the travel time.[/QUOTE]Thank you!

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2653291]You are doing fine. Its good that you can get a hold of these chicas and put a bug in their ear that you are going to be there on whatever time period. It works well for me. I would not worry about paying money for videos if its a couple of bucks as long as you enjoy them. Keep in mind that Facebook chicas are 150 k Colombian Pesos (COP) for a 6-7 200 k COP for 8-9 and alsways add 20 k cop for taxi. If the chica is what you think is mre than an 8. 5 she and has a repuatation for good service she may charge 250 k COP or more its up to you but negociate negotiate and be prepared to walk away if she tries to scam.

Also you mention Lleras Park but do not take it serious as a place to go monger. There are a few SWs in Lleras but the choices are limited and for the service you get the price. Standard in Lleras is 200 k but that is inflated price becuase that is for a quickie (twenty munutes to an hour) with no guarantee for GFE. With a Facebook chica you are going to negociate 2 hours full GFE and BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Thank you sir.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2653481]Why? There are tons of free videos on the internet. Or is there something special in having a video of the hooker you are talking to? I remember being at a chick's house and fucking her all night for $30. Meanwhile she showed me her paypal of all the dudes sending her up to hundreds of dollars for videos. The crazy part was that some of the guys were in the same city and could actually come fuck her all night for the same $30 that I was, but would rather have the videos instead. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

I am a cut to the chase guy. I was in a strip club in Florida with another board member. I asked the stripper how much to fuck. She said come into the back room and buy some dances first then we could talk about it. I asked her why would I buy dances when that is money that I could put towards fucking you. Same as why would I buy videos when that is money that I could put towards fucking you.

I met a chick online in Barranquilla. She started asking me about buying videos. I asked if she was a hooker and she said no. She does not sleep with people for money. She only sells content. I said but I am in Barranquilla now. I do not need to buy any videos; I need to see you in person. 5 minutes later she was asking if I would pay for her company. She said she wanted 200,000 pesos plus taxi. I told her no way and that I would give her 120,000 pesos. She said okay, pay the Indriver too and she was on her way.

You guys make things more complicated and spend unnecessary money and time when you are trying to procure these chicks without being in town or do not plan to be in town in the next couple of days..[/QUOTE]But bro what if I gave the chick you fucked $10 for a video got there and fucked her for $30 what makes me doing to much when I got the same chick but spent $10 more. I can care less what she has in her paypal as long as it is $30 for me.

Escorts from a classy service werer $100 in New York, there were the apartments all over town with GFE type girls. Every night on Park avenue S they'd be like 30 girls all over the place. On Lexington avenue walking right on the street at night. This was before internet and before the international sex guide All we had was screw magazine. But I would travel to another city the only way to find an escort service was in the yellow pages or maybe at a strip club.. those days will kind of challenging nowadays everything is really much better, and the best part is the little head isn't talking as much these days..... But back then they'll be a line of cars with girls giving head right in the middle of Manhattan

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2653404]Wow, $ 20 USD for a blow job almost 50 years ago, which I'm assuming took place in the USA.

And nowadays, for the equivalent of that amount, or about 80,000 Colombian Pesos, this will get you two "ratos", including a blow job, and short time room in Centro.

You probably could of never imagined anything like this back in 1974 regarding what things would cost fifty years in the future.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AtlNightmare;2653499]But bro what if I gave the chick you fucked $10 for a video got there and fucked her for $30 what makes me doing to much when I got the same chick but spent $10 more.[/QUOTE]That is why I said different strokes. Me personally I can not see calling up the manager at McDonald's and sending him money for pictures of a hamburger when I can get online and see all the hamburgers I want for free. And when I am in the area, for a little more money than I paid for pictures, I can go into McDonald's and actually eat one of the burgers. But if that is your thing then enjoy it.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2653291]You are doing fine. Its good that you can get a hold of these chicas and put a bug in their ear that you are going to be there on whatever time period. It works well for me. I would not worry about paying money for videos if its a couple of bucks as long as you enjoy them. Keep in mind that Facebook chicas are 150 k Colombian Pesos (COP) for a 6-7 200 k COP for 8-9 and alsways add 20 k cop for taxi. If the chica is what you think is mre than an 8. 5 she and has a repuatation for good service she may charge 250 k COP or more its up to you but negociate negotiate and be prepared to walk away if she tries to scam.

Also you mention Lleras Park but do not take it serious as a place to go monger. There are a few SWs in Lleras but the choices are limited and for the service you get the price. Standard in Lleras is 200 k but that is inflated price becuase that is for a quickie (twenty munutes to an hour) with no guarantee for GFE. With a Facebook chica you are going to negociate 2 hours full GFE and BBBJ.[/QUOTE]200 k for 8-9? I would say it is almost impossible, if we are talking about high quality women (fitness models, instagram models, etc). They are hard to find and usually are taken or unavailable, unlike 6's and 7's which can be found everywhere. You probably would need to revise your 1-10 scale, because your 8's and 9's for 200 k are probably 6's and 7's (no offense). If you go to a place like La Isla or Gusto, or Loutron, how many real 8's and 9's will you see on a given night that are readily available? Realistically, very very few, (if any) even though all of these venues are supposed to have the hottest working girls in town. Obviously these venues are at a different price point, but what I'm saying is that even these venues lack quality. Same thing with Tinder and Seeking, very very few gorgeous women percentage wise. And a few hot ones are overwhelmed with the number of messages and offers, and will certainly not fuck a stranger for 200 k.

[QUOTE=AtlNightmare;2653499]But bro what if I gave the chick you fucked $10 for a video got there and fucked her for $30 what makes me doing to much when I got the same chick but spent $10 more. I can care less what she has in her paypal as long as it is $30 for me.[/QUOTE]In theory, you can buy the video at any time and the timing does not make a difference, right? So why not wait until you are in Medellin to buy it, or maybe even better to skip the buying and fuck her for $30.

I am not telling you to save $10 or anything like that so just take it as a feedback as you said feedback is welcome.

Now you have 200 FB friends, if you keep on going, you will get another 200, just something to think about.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2653545]In theory, you can buy the video at any time and the timing does not make a difference, right? So why not wait until you are in Medellin to buy it, or maybe even better to skip the buying and fuck her for $30.

I am not telling you to save $10 or anything like that so just take it as a feedback as you said feedback is welcome.

Now you have 200 FB friends, if you keep on going, you will get another 200, just something to think about.[/QUOTE]I do and respect the feedback and I apologize if I came across that way. It is me asking y'all for advice so I am humble enough to listen. My only point was I have done that only a couple of times at my choosing that is not my M / O. I took that feed back and will not do it anymore really no need to. The truth is a lot not all have facetime me from facebook to show they are real some done some nasty shit and some just in there underwear. That is what I am most trying to get when I get there whatsapp. I write "thank you I appreciate you giving me this, I will contact you when I land and it will not be a waist of your time". All of them write back ok and most continue where I can ask them for private calls to show they are real. The ones from FB that do I edit the number to know who I at least seen live rather they fake me out or not about coming.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2653538]200 k for 8-9? I would say it is almost impossible..[/QUOTE]This is my understanding when I read the post. He is talking about average chicas, and above average chicas.

I would say you won't find 10 online based on very strict criteria due the the asymmetrical nature of online dating. You may be able to find 9, but she will be inundated with so many men so she can pick someone much better than her.

There was a girl in local Brazil forum. She was criticized charging too much. She was mad because someone accused her being a trans. She said why fuck 6 men a day when she could make the same amount of money by fucking only 2.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2653519]That is why I said different strokes. Me personally I can not see calling up the manager at McDonald's and sending him money for pictures of a hamburger when I can get online and see all the hamburgers I want for free. And when I am in the area, for a little more money than I paid for pictures, I can go into McDonald's and actually eat one of the burgers. But if that is your thing then enjoy it.[/QUOTE]Exactly, I'll never understand guys that pay for videos or pics or only fans type of shit. If I'm not getting my dick wet my money stays in my pocket. That $10 spent on a video I'd rather get a Botero chick. Like you said different strokes LOL.

Everyone has different standards of beauty anyway. I don't like girls who look like professional beauty queens I like the more natural type. Other people like your beauty contestant. I think you get your best results by giving the girl what she wants if it's within your budget. If not just move on. Generally you going to get them both for your money if you give the women what they are asking for. I mean generally speaking.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2653575]This is my understanding when I read the post. He is talking about average chicas, and above average chicas.

I would say you won't find 10 online based on very strict criteria due the the asymmetrical nature of online dating. You may be able to find 9, but she will be inundated with so many men so she can pick someone much better than her.

There was a girl in local Brazil forum. She was criticized charging too much. She was mad because someone accused her being a trans. She said why fuck 6 men a day when she could make the same amount of money by fucking only 2.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2653538]200 k for 8-9? I would say it is almost impossible, if we are talking about high quality women (fitness models, instagram models, etc). They are hard to find and usually are taken or unavailable, unlike 6's and 7's which can be found everywhere. You probably would need to revise your 1-10 scale, because your 8's and 9's for 200 k are probably 6's and 7's (no offense). If you go to a place like La Isla or Gusto, or Loutron, how many real 8's and 9's will you see on a given night that are readily available? Realistically, very very few, (if any) even though all of these venues are supposed to have the hottest working girls in town. Obviously these venues are at a different price point, but what I'm saying is that even these venues lack quality. Same thing with Tinder and Seeking, very very few gorgeous women percentage wise. And a few hot ones are overwhelmed with the number of messages and offers, and will certainly not fuck a stranger for 200 k.[/QUOTE]There's lots of girls who are average who simply won't take 200-250 mil for a date and it's not because they're so much hotter than the next girl. Yes I would say they are better than average looking girls but they also have a brain. Meaning they socialize within a different circle.

There are some girls who simply won't accept it thinking their body is worth more. And I'm ok with that from a personal pov.

But the reality is that it's a business market.

Perfect example is Fernanda Rodriguez or Saray Manuela on FB.

They were 250 girls with BBBJ and all.

Now both got their tits done and one is on onlyfans and won't come out and the other wants min 400 per date.

Neither of these girls are more than a7-8 for fb standards or a 6 in real life standards. But to each their own.

And also the older they get they get wiser and surround themselves with girls who give them advice based on their own experiences on better ways to make $$.

But if a girl is truly a universal 9 or 10 meaning to many eyes they don't charge by the hour.

Usually it's a date dinner and back to the bedroom and the price is a milly and up.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2653597]Everyone has different standards of beauty anyway.[/QUOTE]Exactly why I do not like when people talk about these numbers without posting examples of them. Show me what a 9 is and tell me why she is not a 10. Show me what an 8 is and tell me why she is not a 9. Just saying 8, 9, 10 tells me absolutely nothing.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2653605]Now both got their tits done and one is on onlyfans and won't come out and the other wants min 400 per date.[/quote]It is shit like getting their tits done that would lower their beauty rating to me. I don't see surgery as making a woman look better. It actually gives me the creeps.

The standard 1-10 scale is too subjective so I have developed two additional scales. The first is the zero to five scale. A zero you would not fuck or eat. A one you would fuck but not eat. A two you would fuck or eat. A three you would eat and then fuck. A four you would fuck and then eat. And, a five, you would eat after your buddy just fucked her.

Another scale is the Budweiser scale. This is not how many Budweiser's I would need to drink to fuck her; it's the number of Clydesdales it would take to drag her off my face.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2653575]This is my understanding when I read the post. He is talking about average chicas, and above average chicas.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2653597]Everyone has different standards of beauty anyway. [/QUOTE]Of course you are correct. Average and above average are probably better terms to use. The numbers description is highly subjective.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2653538]200 k for 8-9? I would say it is almost impossible,.[/QUOTE]As said the number system is highly subjective. But when I think of a 6's-7's I think of a chica that is just doable. Cute at best. If you are only finding 6's - 7's than I am sorry for you. I have over 3000 profiles and of those there are close to 50 - 75 that I would consider (in my ever so humble opinion) to be 8 to 9's so you have figure that is less than 3%

There are some very beautiful women who are prepagos working off of FB in Medellin. I talk to a lof of guys in PMs who swap profiles with me and we are all in the ballpark of agreeing on which ones are 8s and 9s. I trade profiles with guys through PM and they too have the same opinion that I do about which ones are the hottest. So it works for me. So either you are very very very picky with your assigned numbers or you are having rotten luck. Or you have not done enough digging. The biggest challenge is to keep the list steady and that means doing work to find the fresh meat and the ones that barely mess with gringos.

Regardless though you cannot judge my experience with your experience. Sorry you only get 6's and 7's.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2653597]Everyone has different standards of beauty anyway...[/QUOTE]Not according to [B]The Cane[/B].

Is Bocagrande or Centro better to find girls? Also, are most hotels OK with bringing unregistered guests (prostitutes, non-working girls, etc.) Also, how do I avoid underage girls? [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2653609]It is shit like getting their tits done that would lower their beauty rating to me. I don't see surgery as making a woman look better. It actually gives me the creeps.[/QUOTE]Depends on the surgeon. I have one chica that I always see when I'm in town that has the nicest set of implants that I'd ever seen. They look and feel natural. Perfect size (D / DD). Not one visible scar. Then there are most that have the horizontal scar under the breast, or the horizontal along with a vertical from the nipple down, that's a real butcher job.

In my opinion, in order for a woman to be a 9 or 10 she has to have an all natural well proportioned body and a stunning face. Almost a perfect body in every way. Even though body enhancements can provide eye candy, it's the all natural beauty that takes 1st place.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2600916]Amazing you are a regular reader but not reading other sections. Someone asked in the "Other areas" section. Nobody answered so I did and was willing to walk him to each one. I know of 6-7 preggos. Guy never responded which tells me he is full of crap (not here, no membership, etc). Tomorrow I meet one at 10:00 am who is 4 months along. Want her before she gets too big. Good luck to you and the gurus on this site who seem to know everything. I am not a picture taker but if I remember I will take a tummy picture and post it for you.[/QUOTE]Finally I was able to find one Morena preggo. I asked her ID and all was good. She was on 6th month and already has a 2 years old kid. Negotiate 80 cop which might be bit more for el centro but hell with the money I was going to get my life long fetish. Off to love motel have a quick shower in cold water and the action starts looking at her 6 months tummy I am already nuts then the gal gives a amazing CBJ. Since was in El centro though it was good idea to have CBJ. We try various positions she allows me to suck and play with her best and I simulate them enough the she starts giving drops of milk. As she rides me I am squirt her milk all over me. What a experience and after like 10 minutes I am all messed up with the milk over me. Tried other positions and am done. Was so happy gave another 15 USD and she is happy. Since she was so cooperative I ask her if she could give me a warm golden shower and she did!! Amazing experience of my life. Thank you to LoveItHere69 and surfer for the tips.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2653630]The standard 1-10 scale is too subjective so I have developed two additional scales. The first is the zero to five scale. A zero you would not fuck or eat. A one you would fuck but not eat. A two you would fuck or eat. A three you would eat and then fuck. A four you would fuck and then eat. And, a five, you would eat after your buddy just fucked her.

Another scale is the Budweiser scale. This is not how many Budweiser's I would need to drink to fuck her; it's the number of Clydesdales it would take to drag her off my face.[/QUOTE]I use scale #1 (modified) all the time. What you forgot to mention, though, is that the scale assumes everything is bareback. Therefore, there are damn few 4's and far fewer 5's.

I don't know why I ever post here what is planned ahead with these chicas because nothing ever turns out as planned and what happens usually ends up being better. After going to Jumbo and replacing Scarlet's stolen cell phone, we went back to grandma's house for another home-cooked meal. Scarlet and her roommate Sam dyed my hair. The girls there said they would come to my hotel later. Scarlet is Number Two, her roommate Sam is unranked and has a boyfriend. The boyfriend hits her is what Scarlet told me. The boyfriend showed up later and Sam could not get away.

Scarlet sent me a foto of sub #1 who I know I had seen before but I could not remember any details about her performance. She was on her period but promised a "special" blowjob. Then Scarlet replaced her with a chica I thought I would never see again and one of my favorites, Purrfekt Paisa. She is one of the chicas with a fashion model build, and tall. I always felt lucky to get her especially for the price I was paying, I had never given her more than 120 mil COP.

I was told Paisa was working on a "yacht" somewhere and I thought some high-roller recognized talent when he saw her and took her off the market. Besides her Victoria's Secret figure, she has a super-cute face especially if you like that Paisa look. She has a sweet disposition and a simple mind that is super-pliable.

At any rate, I was happy to see her again. None of the really good shit ever makes it to camera. Even if you have a photographer like a porn shoot, the girls never really totally let loose until they know and can feel a camera is not pointed at them so whatever perverted thing they are doing won't have an image to haunt them for the rest of their lives, jeje.

Once we started in on the Mattress Olympics things got hot and heavy. I think we peaked when I was standing at the edge of the bed fucking Paisa who was prone flat on her belly. Scarlet was laying face up with her head draped over the edge of the bed next to Paisa's ass, and I went back and forth between Scarlet's mouth and Paisa's pussy. I tried to stick it in Paisa's ass but she would have none of it.

They both left at 3 AM after Scarlet took a phone and they both suddenly got real quiet. I was so fucked up by then that my limited Spanish comprehension had long left the room. I gave Scarlet a 20 mil COP note for them so share a taxi and I gave Paisa 120 mil COP and she was happy. Plus the cost of the pink shit and some jugo and papitas. Stellar evening.

I am supposed to hook up with my Numero Uno Catgirl today at our apartment in Aurora, but I wouldn't call them "plans" jeje.

I am hoping to meet up with Pumpkin over at Ground Zero this morning. If I fuck her in a Love Motel across the street instead of here in Hotel Nutibara, ends up costing me less than half. That doesn't really make sense because we do the exact same shit but I am not going to argue the point against my own interest.

[QUOTE=MedalloBum;2653684]Depends on the surgeon. I have one chica that I always see when I'm in town that has the nicest set of implants that I'd ever seen. They look and feel natural. Perfect size (D / DD). Not one visible scar. Then there are most that have the horizontal scar under the breast, or the horizontal along with a vertical from the nipple down, that's a real butcher job.[/QUOTE]Those "perfect ones" are probably silicone through the armpit. I'd guess they were enhancements of the smaller size, especially if she was already somewhat petite to begin with. The horizontal scar under the breast is the "standard" method. The "butcher job" of horizontal and vertical from the nipple down (often with surgical scars all around the nipple) was probably a breast reduction and lift.

Hi all,

Coming to the Medellin first time and staying in Poblado area -- and was wondering what is the going rate for the girls overnight? Is 500 Mil too much lets say from 9 PM to 7 in the morning? I m in touch with couple of girls that's what they want to charge me. Looking at these posts, I think I may be paying a bit more. Please help brother out and also if anyone wants to help me with contacts of the girls, always appreciated.

Thank you,

Jigs.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2653588]Exactly, I'll never understand guys that pay for videos or pics or only fans type of shit. If I'm not getting my dick wet my money stays in my pocket. That $10 spent on a video I'd rather get a Botero chick. Like you said different strokes LOL.[/QUOTE]Bruh I piss out $10. Some of you cats try and make it like no one spends money. Been a lot of attention on $10 damn dollars. I am going on vacation anything I think will make my chances better and safer that I will do. I am not from Colombia never been there in my life so if $10 will have them on a live feeds with me on numerous occasions to at least know who the hell I am messaging with then so be it. Seen plenty of dinner, drugs, alcohol, extra tips, gift giving, paid SA subscriptions, spending money even when they leave, $500 and $800 HR pay guys list goes on money will be spent and I see a hell of a lot more than $10. Just my thoughts. So yeah different strokes but the same thing is still being done and most times at a very higher scale.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2653630]The standard 1-10 scale is too subjective so I have developed two additional scales. The first is the zero to five scale. A zero you would not fuck or eat. A one you would fuck but not eat. A two you would fuck or eat. A three you would eat and then fuck. A four you would fuck and then eat. And, a five, you would eat after your buddy just fucked her.

Another scale is the Budweiser scale. This is not how many Budweiser's I would need to drink to fuck her; it's the number of Clydesdales it would take to drag her off my face.[/QUOTE]Sounds good but you left one out: the -1 (negative one) the chica I would not fuck even with my own worst enemy's dick.

[QUOTE=L00PY;2653853]Those "perfect ones" are probably silicone through the armpit. I'd guess they were enhancements of the smaller size, especially if she was already somewhat petite to begin with. The horizontal scar under the breast is the "standard" method. The "butcher job" of horizontal and vertical from the nipple down (often with surgical scars all around the nipple) was probably a breast reduction and lift.[/QUOTE]Nowadays many girls have scars close to their vaginas. To remove fat from waistlines or straight lipo. They do laser body sculpting to have their abs and lower back shaped up. Prosthetic asses. There's a lot of surgeries that aren't even necessarily plastic that they're doing to keep up their looks. I got to think this is will all have a negative long term effect somehow.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2653538]You probably would need to revise your 1-10 scale, because your 8's and 9's for 200 k are probably 6's and 7's . how many real 8's and 9's will you see ?... very very few, (if any)[/QUOTE]I must say this is a ridiculous discussion, not just bcos it is all subjective. How many times have we watched Miss Uiniverse / World, and wondered, HTF did she qualify? Bcos we have different tastes, that's why.

But, MB, if you think there are very few 8's and 9's (not to even consider 10's), then it seems to be you that needs to adjust your scale. It sounds like you need a 1-10,000 scale, not one 1-10. Then you can put your 8's at 9998,9's at 9999, an 10's at 10000. That seems more realistic to reflect your views.

I would prefer a linnear scale:

1 - lowest 10%.

2 - 11-20% best looking.

10 - top 10% best looking.

Simple as. But totally meaningless all the same. Unless your sole objective is to notch empty top 10%ers and don't give a shit about all the factors that are far far far more important, like attitude, performance, adventurousness etc.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2653663]Of course you are correct. Average and above average are probably better terms to use. The numbers description is highly subjective.

As said the number system is highly subjective. But when I think of a 6's-7's I think of a chica that is just doable. Cute at best. If you are only finding 6's - 7's than I am sorry for you. I have over 3000 profiles and of those there are close to 50 - 75 that I would consider (in my ever so humble opinion) to be 8 to 9's so you have figure that is less than 3%

There are some very beautiful women who are prepagos working off of FB in Medellin. I talk to a lof of guys in PMs who swap profiles with me and we are all in the ballpark of agreeing on which ones are 8s and 9s. I trade profiles with guys through PM and they too have the same opinion that I do about which ones are the hottest. So it works for me. So either you are very very very picky with your assigned numbers or you are having rotten luck. Or you have not done enough digging. The biggest challenge is to keep the list steady and that means doing work to find the fresh meat and the ones that barely mess with gringos.

Regardless though you cannot judge my experience with your experience. Sorry you only get 6's and 7's.[/QUOTE]Hey Mojo,

I totally agree with you, 6's and 7's are girls next door types, sweet and cute, but not gorgeous. Your 3% guesstimate seems to be very accurate. I don't have a roster of 3000 profiles, but I would estimate 3 to 5 8's and up for every 100 girls online or offline. I have met a few fellow mongers with whom exchanged contacts and shared stories, and none of them fucked or dated a girl above 7. 5 on my scale, they were all average looking, girls next door types. It is not that I can't find 8's and up at all, I do see them here and there occasionally, even though very few, my issue is that they do not respond, not interested, or rates are way out of my budget, much more that 200-250 k. Too much competition for high quality pussy. But in the 6-7's category Colombia stands out, one can get the best bang for his buck. If you could pm me with a few profiles of 8's and 9's I would appreciate it (I got boots on the ground), unfortunately I got nothing to offer in exchange except a couple of beers / drinks if you are down here.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2653940]I must say this is a ridiculous discussion, not just bcos it is all subjective. How many times have we watched Miss Uiniverse / World, and wondered, HTF did she qualify? Bcos we have different tastes, that's why.

But, MB, if you think there are very few 8's and 9's (not to even consider 10's), then it seems to be you that needs to adjust your scale. It sounds like you need a 1-10,000 scale, not one 1-10. Then you can put your 8's at 9998,9's at 9999, an 10's at 10000. That seems more realistic to reflect your views.

I would prefer a linnear scale:

1 - lowest 10%.

2 - 11-20% best looking.

10 - top 10% best looking.

Simple as. But totally meaningless all the same. Unless your sole objective is to notch empty top 10%ers and don't give a shit about all the factors that are far far far more important, like attitude, performance, adventurousness etc.[/QUOTE]Hey, this is a never ending conversation. Whether you like it or not, 1. 10 scale is the best tool to assess women's looks (looks ONLY, it has nothing to do with performance, attitude, etc. Because all of these are way more subjective than looks and depend on various factors) and is most commonly used among mongers all over the world. If you don't like it, don't use it, period.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2653944]Whether you like it or not, 1. 10 scale is the best tool to assess women's looks. If you don't like it, don't use it, period.[/QUOTE]Am sure I could never use it, not least bcos I just don't objectify women in that way. But also I don't find it useful at all, even if just for assessing looks, even if just for my own assessment of looks. I have no idea what is in your mind when you say for example "9" - what does that include and exclude and why. And why should that mean anything to me and my assessment of that same person?

I can look at a nose on one person and think its good, but that same nose on another person would look ridiculous. And maybe you would not like either.

Even the "girl next door" idea - again that is culture-related. I am not part of ur culture and do not share the same image when you say girl next door, nor have the same opinion of that image.

So you might as well be speaking Chinese for all I understand or care. No offense, meant.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2653941]... even though very few, my issue is that they do not respond, not interested, or rates are way out of my budget, much more that 200-250 k. Too much competition for high quality pussy...[/QUOTE]That is what I think in my earlier reply.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2653575]...I would say you won't find 10 online based on very strict criteria due the the asymmetrical nature of online dating. You may be able to find 9, but she will be inundated with so many men so she can pick someone much better than her...[/QUOTE]My guess is a 9 can have several men that are 10 to choose from. The numbers are used to demonstrate the relative relationship and you can interpret it anyway you want. Being in Latin America changes the equation but it's still difficult if you want the top on online dating.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2653944]Hey, this is a never ending conversation. Whether you like it or not, 1. 10 scale is the best tool to assess women's looks (looks ONLY, it has nothing to do with performance, attitude, etc. Because all of these are way more subjective than looks and depend on various factors) and is most commonly used among mongers all over the world. If you don't like it, don't use it, period.[/QUOTE]You are right, we have been through this circular argument that leads to nowhere before. If you are like minded to MiamiBoy then engage and share or you can ignore him or whatever but there is no point in one side trying to convince the other side other than sharing alternate viewpoints, which is a valid reason.

I don't think you can definitively say it is the "most commonly used" tool among mongers unless you have the results of some sort of statistically valid poll. You experience has sampling bias because you will trend towards others mongers with similar viewpoints. We have spoken about this one on one before. Among my cohorts, there are more people who see the 1-10 scale as near pointless. We all bring personal bias to the table, to varying degrees, and no one especially myself, is immune from that potential foible. Enough said, let's Keep On Keepin' On and keep this as fun as possible!

It's definitely not too much. I'd start off by getting them over for a short time and then talking about extending rather than going all in for the all night right away. Or do a short time in the next time all night. There's so much pussy there's ridiculous.

[QUOTE=DaJigsking;2653854]Hi all,

Coming to the Medellin first time and staying in Poblado area -- and was wondering what is the going rate for the girls overnight? Is 500 Mil too much lets say from 9 PM to 7 in the morning? I m in touch with couple of girls that's what they want to charge me. Looking at these posts, I think I may be paying a bit more. Please help brother out and also if anyone wants to help me with contacts of the girls, always appreciated.

Thank you,

Jigs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2653823]They both left at 3 AM after Scarlet took a phone and they both suddenly got real quiet. I was so fucked up by then that my limited Spanish comprehension had long left the room. I gave Scarlet a 20 mil COP note for them so share a taxi and I gave Paisa 120 mil COP and she was happy. Plus the cost of the pink shit and some jugo and papitas. Stellar evening.

I am supposed to hook up with my Numero Uno Catgirl today at our apartment in Aurora, but I wouldn't call them "plans" jeje.

I am hoping to meet up with Pumpkin over at Ground Zero this morning. If I fuck her in a Love Motel across the street instead of here in Hotel Nutibara, ends up costing me less than half. That doesn't really make sense because we do the exact same shit but I am not going to argue the point against my own interest.[/QUOTE]Long time lurker here. Why do you think they got so quite after the phone call? I'm visiting Medellin for the first time in mid Feb. Still nailing down a place to stay but Hotel Nutibara was on my radar. What's the best option for getting the pink shit? Just give a chica a few COP and let them handle it?

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2653941]Hey Mojo,

I totally agree with you, 6's and 7's are girls next door types, sweet and cute, but not gorgeous. Your 3% guesstimate seems to be very accurate. I don't have a roster of 3000 profiles, but I would estimate 3 to 5 8's and up for every 100 girls online or offline. I have met a few fellow mongers with whom exchanged contacts and shared stories, and none of them fucked or dated a girl above 7. 5 on my scale, they were all average looking, girls next door types. It is not that I can't find 8's and up at all, I do see them here and there occasionally, even though very few, my issue is that they do not respond, not interested, or rates are way out of my budget, much more that 200-250 k. Too much competition for high quality pussy. But in the 6-7's category Colombia stands out, one can get the best bang for his buck. If you could pm me with a few profiles of 8's and 9's I would appreciate it (I got boots on the ground), unfortunately I got nothing to offer in exchange except a couple of beers / drinks if you are down here.[/QUOTE]What type of body do you look for on a chica. I have a wider variety of taste than some guys. I do not mind a chica that is thicker if she has a flat stomach and a really pretty face. I will send you some examples. You must first promise not to post thier profiles or photos on here.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2654012] I have a wider variety of taste than some guys. [/QUOTE]Me too and it's served me well over the years. Apply some kind of minimum standard such as '6' or '7' or whatever and then it should be about the vibe with the woman. That will result in the best sex. That's what the board should be about: the best sex and how and where to get it as quickly and cheaply as possible with the least hassle. Running around looking for the elusive '10' or your narrow idea of a '9' will eliminate a lot of great sex. And I don't know from personal experience but I bet chasing '10's' gets mighty costly with only occasional results.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2654012]What type of body do you look for on a chica. I have a wider variety of taste than some guys. I do not mind a chica that is thicker if she has a flat stomach and a really pretty face. I will send you some examples. You must first promise not to post thier profiles or photos on here.[/QUOTE]Pm'ed you.

Perfect example is Fernanda Rodriguez or Saray Manuela on FB.

They were 250 girls with BBBJ and all.

Now both got their tits done and one is on onlyfans and won't come out and the other wants min 400 per date.

Neither of these girls are more than a7-8 for fb standards or a 6 in real life standards. But to each their own.

You are not kidding about Fernanda, I had a great date with her a couple of years ago but now she won't even respond to me. Oh well!

[QUOTE=Huacho;2654033] Running around looking for the elusive '10' or your narrow idea of a '9' will eliminate a lot of great sex..[/QUOTE]Wow, we agree for once. Hehe. Still waiting for your trait equaliser though. Ha.

[QUOTE=FlappyGilmore0;2654009]Long time lurker here. Why do you think they got so quite after the phone call? I'm visiting Medellin for the first time in mid Feb. Still nailing down a place to stay but Hotel Nutibara was on my radar. What's the best option for getting the pink shit? Just give a chica a few COP and let them handle it?[/QUOTE]1. The answer to your first question is too personal for me to share.

2. The same way you do it all over the world, and MiamiBoy1 knows exactly what I am talking about. Taxi drivers and chicas are a good place to start. You will get screwed.

As always, stories about recreational drugs are purely fictional and are for entertainment purposes only. I am simply doing research for a fictional book I am writing about Medellin. I do not condone the use of illicit drugs and would never buy, sell, transport or use any illegal substances in any countries of the world.

Gratuitous fotos from today.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2654033]Running around looking for the elusive '10' or your narrow idea of a '9' will eliminate a lot of great sex.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=JustTK;2654078]Wow, we agree for once. Hehe.[/QUOTE]Hence the saying as applied to the mongering game, "Don't go chasing waterfalls".

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2653538]200 k for 8-9? I would say it is almost impossible, if we are talking about high quality women (fitness models, instagram models, etc). They are hard to find and usually are taken or unavailable, unlike 6's and 7's which can be found everywhere. You probably would need to revise your 1-10 scale, because your 8's and 9's for 200 k are probably 6's and 7's (no offense). If you go to a place like La Isla or Gusto, or Loutron, how many real 8's and 9's will you see on a given night that are readily available? Realistically, very very few, (if any) even though all of these venues are supposed to have the hottest working girls in town. Obviously these venues are at a different price point, but what I'm saying is that even these venues lack quality. Same thing with Tinder and Seeking, very very few gorgeous women percentage wise. And a few hot ones are overwhelmed with the number of messages and offers, and will certainly not fuck a stranger for 200 k.[/QUOTE]I have pretty high standards and couple that with my preference of no fake body parts I would have to say the majority of women I see walking around Medellin are just cute or above average. I actually rarely ever see a girl that really stands out to me. She either has some redeemable qualities yet a few flaws that bring her down to average at best in my eyes. Now with all that being said I have yet to see anything above average at any of these clubs everyone is always talking about. The last time I went to Gustos all I saw were less than desirables and Lleras Park had better quality (not much better) that same night minus the entrance and bar fees. Been to LA Isla 3 times and only ever saw one girl who stood out. And it was mainly because of her dancing skills although she was still above average on looks and body but yet nothing I would call a 9 or better. She still was asking 450 k per hour when I texted her the next day and she wasn't budging on her price. She obviously was quite popular seeing as her tip walk after dancing lasted well over an hour after she was done dancing. These top level girls are getting their aforementioned initial price they quote you. This was back in 2020 so I'm sure she probably now asking for 600 these days. Back in 2020 when I first came girls were accepting 150 k to 200 k with barely any negotiations. Now I'm getting ghosted when I quote anything less than 300 and up on Facebook. Again my standards are quite high and I'm probably seeking the really good looking one's who seem to be very popular when they consistently post status updates from different hotels, restaurants, beaches, different countries etc. Although I still go after these girls they are so flakey and inconsistent that I have to settle for the more average looking chica which isn't bad because the experience is usually better and I tend to get more but at the end of the day they aren't 8 or 9 and definitely not dime pieces.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2653954]Am sure I could never use it, not least bcos I just don't objectify women in that way.[/QUOTE]Objectify- good lord man- you realize this is a hooker review board right. They are regularly commodified here- you don't want a rating scheme but you want to know how pretty they are. Would an essay work for you. Get over it and give some money to a women's shelter if you want to assuage your feminist guilt.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2654033]Me too and it's served me well over the years. Apply some kind of minimum standard such as '6' or '7' or whatever and then it should be about the vibe with the woman. That will result in the best sex. That's what the board should be about: the best sex and how and where to get it as quickly and cheaply as possible with the least hassle. Running around looking for the elusive '10' or your narrow idea of a '9' will eliminate a lot of great sex. And I don't know from personal experience but I bet chasing '10's' gets mighty costly with only occasional results.[/QUOTE]I personally will not approach what I call the "trophy fucks", aka the 9-10"s that are coveted by so many guys here.

Lots of the trophy fucks don't think their shit stinks, and have lot's of rules. Lots of guys are totally focused on how beautiful the woman is, meaning how pretty they are. I look at a woman's body first, with a pretty face not high on my list. And in reality, once the lights are dimmed, does it really matter so much how pretty their faces are.

Your not fucking their face, but for some guys, that's what they are looking for, and if that's what turns them on, than that is what matters, and our opinions don't matter.

This board covers the entire spectrum of what's available, and some guys love Gusto's and LLeras, others are just into Fayboo Chicas, or the casa's, or Centro.

As far as the correlation of the quality of the sex potentially being better with a 6 versus a 10, I agree with this for lots of reasons, yet the adage your mileage may vary definitely comes into play here, and whether you have any Spanish speaking skills.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2654190]You're not fucking their face[/QUOTE]Speak for yourself, jeje.

BTW, she loved it and asked me not to stop until I exploded on her face.

One man's 8 is another man's 10, and for me they are both right. Go for it, enjoy and don't sweat the ratings details.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2654005]It's definitely not too much. I'd start off by getting them over for a short time and then talking about extending rather than going all in for the all night right away. Or do a short time in the next time all night. There's so much pussy there's ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Thank you Kafka for the advice, and I think I will follow the same. Anyway -- where do you go find these pussies? I found couple of FB they want me to buy their videos first.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2654130]I have pretty high standards and couple that with my preference of no fake body parts I would have to say the majority of women I see walking around Medellin are just cute or above average. I actually rarely ever see a girl that really stands out to me. She either has some redeemable qualities yet a few flaws that bring her down to average at best in my eyes. Now with all that being said I have yet to see anything above average at any of these clubs everyone is always talking about. The last time I went to Gustos all I saw were less than desirables and Lleras Park had better quality (not much better) that same night minus the entrance and bar fees. Been to LA Isla 3 times and only ever saw one girl who stood out. And it was mainly because of her dancing skills although she was still above average on looks and body but yet nothing I would call a 9 or better. She still was asking 450 k per hour when I texted her the next day and she wasn't budging on her price. She obviously was quite popular seeing as her tip walk after dancing lasted well over an hour after she was done dancing. These top level girls are getting their aforementioned initial price they quote you. This was back in 2020 so I'm sure she probably now asking for 600 these days. Back in 2020 when I first came girls were accepting 150 k to 200 k with barely any negotiations. Now I'm getting ghosted when I quote anything less than 300 and up on Facebook. Again my standards are quite high and I'm probably seeking the really good looking one's who seem to be very popular when they consistently post status updates from different hotels, restaurants, beaches, different countries etc. Although I still go after these girls they are so flakey and inconsistent that I have to settle for the more average looking chica which isn't bad because the experience is usually better and I tend to get more but at the end of the day they aren't 8 or 9 and definitely not dime pieces.[/QUOTE]Not only I see very few gorgeous girls at La Isla, etc. But also pretty much everywhere else. I walk around a lot, frequent malls, parks, cafes, Provenza, etc. Plenty of girls, but nobody stands out. So I have no other choice but to stick to 6. 5-7 girls, which is not bad, I agree, but still want to get better quality, because I can fuck 6's back home.

[QUOTE=Norbert61;2654176]Objectify- good lord man- you realize this is a hooker review board right. They are regularly commodified here- you don't want a rating scheme but you want to know how pretty they are. Would an essay work for you. Get over it and give some money to a women's shelter if you want to assuage your feminist guilt.[/QUOTE]You misunderstand me a little. I mean that I would not rate a girl purely on her looks. Bcos that means nothing to me.

I am happy with a rating system. Here is mine, it has 3 scores and is based on a combo of looks, attitude, performance. The whole experience. - great, ok, shlt.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2654275]You misunderstand me a little. I mean that I would not rate a girl purely on her looks. Bcos that means nothing to me.

I am happy with a rating system. Here is mine, it has 3 scores and is based on a combo of looks, attitude, performance. The whole experience. - great, ok, shlt.[/QUOTE]That was funny.

[QUOTE=Norbert61;2654176]Objectify- good lord man- you realize this is a hooker review
board right. They are regularly commodified here- you don't want a rating scheme but you want to know how pretty they are. Would an essay work for you. Get over it and give some money to a women's shelter if you want to assuage your feminist guilt.[/QUOTE]You can't buy their souls anyway so, just a good blowjob and a fantasy.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2654190]I personally will not approach what I call the "trophy fucks", aka the 9-10"s that are coveted by so many guys here...[/QUOTE]Would you fuck her if she is fresh from Venezuela, for example.

These posts are meaningless because there is no context, no picture of any sort, or even comparison to tell people which country they have more success finding them. All we know is that who is [B]not 10[/B] but we don't know what [B]10[/B] is. LOL. This to me is that people are looking for something that does not exist. The reason members are still posting here is telling me this remain to be the best city.

SJobs is the only member that I know who came straight out posted who he thought was the best looking FB chica on here and there was no disagreement to his post.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2653605]...Neither of these girls are more than a7-8 for fb standards or a 6 in real life standards. But to each their own....[/QUOTE]These two are 6 in real life? Are you able to find 7-8 relative to these two in Medellin? You seem to imply that there are 9 and 10 on FB, is that correct?

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2654244]Speak for yourself, jeje.

BTW, she loved it and asked me not to stop until I exploded on her face.[/QUOTE]After looking at the foto you posted, it appears as though the girl was gagging / choking as it looks like you were squeezing her cheeks together, kind of like creating a wet moist vice grip on your cock, and perhaps, she was begging you to blow your load to get it over with, but nobody will ever know. LOL.

Ok let's see how predictable a scoring system is across different users.

Let's say you met a girl and she looked like the spitting image of Barbie (you know, Barbie Doll, the dream girl of toy marketing). What score would you give her out of 10?

Now let's give her some context. She remembers your name and laughs at your jokes. She swallows and enjoys rimming. She let's you fuck her up the arse without a condom in the hotel swimming pool when all the other guests have gone to bed. What score now?

Now, let's say she charges you 50.000. What score now? Now the price is 500.000. What score?

Now she tells you that your the first guy she has ever gone with for money. Score? Now she tells you she usually fucks 6 guys per day. ?

Finally she tells ypou she wants a weekend-long threesome with you and her sister Black Barbie. What score now?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2654306]Would you fuck her if she is fresh from Venezuela, for example.

These posts are meaningless because there is no context, no picture of any sort, or even comparison to tell people which country they have more success finding them. All we know is that who is [B]not 10[/B] but we don't know what [B]10[/B] is. LOL. This to me is that people are looking for something that does not exist. The reason members are still posting here is telling me this remain to be the best city.

SJobs is the only member that I know who came straight out posted who he thought was the best looking FB chica on here and there was no disagreement to his post.[/QUOTE]I on occasion have seen some women here in Medellin (not working girls) that are so beautiful, I just stare at them with a deer in the headlight look.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2654321]These two are 6 in real life? Are you able to find 7-8 relative to these two in Medellin? You seem to imply that there are 9 and 10 on FB, is that correct?[/QUOTE]Yes that's just my opinion.

And no I don't think there are 9-10's on fb.

I've seen both in real life and banged them both.

But I will say in the FB scene they are upper tier. But if they worked at la Isla they would struggle to get clients. And I don't even think la Isla has a lot of hot girls but there might be an occasional 8-9 there.

The cycle is once they hit 25 and they enhance their looks they'll transfer to the Gusto / La Isla scene.

Then when they run their course there they'll hit the Panama or Costa Rica scene.

Also realize they're many mongers on FB who prefer to have them early in their 18-21 days with that young flaca look. If that's your thing then these girls would be a 8. This is all subjective and just my opinion on the fb girls.

Just to give you an idea this is my idea of an 8 in real life because I have partied with her.

https://instagram.com/isscarletspring?utm_medium=copy_link

[QUOTE=JustTK;2654337]Ok let's see how predictable a scoring system is across different users.

Let's say you met a girl and she looked like the spitting image of Barbie (you know, Barbie Doll, the dream girl of toy marketing). What score would you give her out of 10?

Now let's give her some context. She remembers your name and laughs at your jokes. She swallows and enjoys rimming. She let's you fuck her up the arse without a condom in the hotel swimming pool when all the other guests have gone to bed. What score now?

Now, let's say she charges you 50.000. What score now? Now the price is 500.000. What score?

Now she tells you that your the first guy she has ever gone with for money. Score? Now she tells you she usually fucks 6 guys per day. ?

Finally she tells ypou she wants a weekend-long threesome with you and her sister Black Barbie. What score now?[/QUOTE]You fail to understand that 1-10 scale is used to assess LOOKS only. When you a see a girl online or in person, you have no clue how she will perform in bed if you ever get to fuck her. There is no way to know this in advance. There are too many factors that affect her performance and attitude. But we all believe our eyes. If you show girl's photos to 100 mongers asking them to rate her LOOKS and she receives an average score of, say, 8. 3 - she is a solid 8, period. Some mongers would rate her 6, some 7, others 9, but the average number can't lie. And if that 8. 3 girl gives you a shitty service, she is still solid 8, because none of that matters. Why is it so difficult to understand? Your "bad, okay, good" scale is totally useless and makes no sense, nobody here will ever use it.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2654337]Ok let's see how predictable a scoring system is across different users...[/QUOTE]This is just my personal observation. At most and on average, the best one can find is to fuck his equal for cheap, especially online. Money can be used as an equalizer and it means spend more.

I think RR, SS, and SJ or people like them are the ones that can get the best because the way they monger. They are unique in some aspects and share some common attributes. SJ does not know Spanish but money is no subject and that equalizes his shortcomings.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2654337]...looked like the spitting image of Barbie (you know, Barbie Doll...[/QUOTE]Probably thirty years ago I was at a posh wedding in the DR. The bride, a niece, was a card carrying NY fashion model. At the reception, a beautiful young woman came up to me. 'You must be related to Tina?' 'She's my cousin!' Without thinking about it (I was drunk), I said, 'You are so pretty and put together. You look just like Barbie'. In Berkeley, where I live, that is the single most offensive insult (implying being empty headed and plastic). But to this young woman, it was apparently the highest compliment -- she blushed right up to the roots of her hair.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2654342]You fail to understand that 1-10 scale is used to assess LOOKS only. When you a see a girl online or in person, you have no clue how she will perform in bed if you ever get to fuck her. There is no way to know this in advance. There are too many factors that affect her performance and attitude. But we all believe our eyes. If you show girl's photos to 100 mongers asking them to rate her LOOKS and she receives an average score of, say, 8. 3 - she is a solid 8, period. Some mongers would rate her 6, some 7, others 9, but the average number can't lie. And if that 8. 3 girl gives you a shitty service, she is still solid 8, because none of that matters. Why is it so difficult to understand? Your "bad, okay, good" scale is totally useless and makes no sense, nobody here will ever use it.[/QUOTE]If she is a 6, 7, 8, 9 or 10 to you then that is what she is to you. Who gives a damn about what the next man think he has his own 6,7,8,9, and 10's in his head and they prob not be yours so what? Only valid scale is yours not the next man.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2654341]Yes that's just my opinion.

And no I don't think there are 9-10's on fb....[/QUOTE]Thank you, that helps.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2654342]You fail to understand that 1-10 scale is used to assess LOOKS only. Why is it so difficult to understand? [/QUOTE]I understand it perfectly well. My little test is to highlight that looks are really irrelevant alone (and to have a bit of fun). So how would you rate Barbie? . And in the contexts that I gave?

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2654342] Your "bad, okay, good" scale is totally useless and makes no sense, nobody here will ever use it.[/QUOTE]I understand that you don't like ti. But why do you think it makes no sense, and how do you know that no one here will ever use it?

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2654345]But to this young woman, it was apparently the highest compliment -- she blushed right up to the roots of her hair.[/QUOTE]BUt the big Q is. Did you manage to FK her in the swimming pool after everyone went to bed?

I agree with that. A rating would be a lot different, in most cases, if you factor in personality, performance, genuineness. And let's face it, most of these 9-10's (the high-end girls people talk about) only look that good because of surgery, treatments and make-up. A true judge of beauty, to me, is seeing a girl when she gets out of the shower. No make-up, no hair done. Most of these 9-10's lose their "value" without their make-up clothes and surgeries / enhancements, IMO.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2654342]You fail to understand that 1-10 scale is used to assess LOOKS only. When you a see a girl online or in person, you have no clue how she will perform in bed if you ever get to fuck her. There is no way to know this in advance. There are too many factors that affect her performance and attitude. But we all believe our eyes. If you show girl's photos to 100 mongers asking them to rate her LOOKS and she receives an average score of, say, 8. 3 - she is a solid 8, period. Some mongers would rate her 6, some 7, others 9, but the average number can't lie. And if that 8. 3 girl gives you a shitty service, she is still solid 8, because none of that matters. Why is it so difficult to understand? Your "bad, okay, good" scale is totally useless and makes no sense, nobody here will ever use it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Huacho;2653199]I don't like to go with hookers who do drugs, partly because I don't want to share my drugs, but I do just want to point out one more time, and only one more time, that a 'sacalero' would be a GUY. I don't care what people are into, and I know I pointed this out one time before, and I won't point it out a third time. But in Spanish the adjective has to match the noun in both number and gender. And, the male gender dominates if there are both genders in the group.

Sacaleros: Glue sniffers in general but at least one must be male. If you have 100 glue sniffers and even one is male, they are all 'sacaleros.'

Sacalero: One male glue sniffer.

Sacalera: One female glue sniffer.

Sacaleras: More than one female glue sniffer. Every single glue sniffer must be female. Even one male turns the whole group into 'sacaleros.'

So I don't care who is looking for [I]sacaleros[/I] and who is looking for [I]sacaleras[/I]. I just want to make sure everybody gets what they are looking for:[/QUOTE]Just asking'?

This whole argument is so useless.

The only thing I know is that if someone says. Oh, she was a 9, or 8, or 10. He really liked her, or how she looked, or something. That's all I hear.

And if I then see her, meet her, whatever, and it isn't that way for me I just think, well, different strokes for different folks. That's a.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2654389]Just asking'?[/QUOTE]Haha, using similar logic, I think Portuguese is ahead by just a hair in that regard. Portuguese has um / uma for 1, and dois / duas for 2. It also has a many more contractions based on gender.

Maybe Mr E can chime in here.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2654442]Haha, using similar logic, I think Portuguese is ahead by just a hair in that regard. Portuguese has um / uma for 1, and dois / duas for 2. It also has a many more contractions based on gender.

Maybe Mr E can chime in here.[/QUOTE]They are all the same. It is a common characteristic of Romance languages (Latin-based languages: French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Romanian) that things are assigned a gender and the article (the, a, one, two) that refers to the word must coincide with the gender assigned to that word.

No easy way or pattern. You just learn the gender of each word with experience from hearing or using it. It really gets fucked up when a thing in one of the languages is considered masculine, but in one of the other languages is considered feminine. But those are really rare. Most things have the same gender across the languages.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2654462]They are all the same. It is a common characteristic of Romance languages (Latin-based languages: French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Romanian) that things are assigned a gender.[/QUOTE]A group of 999,999 females and you add one male and that flips the gender from feminine to masculine? Show me something, anything, that is more sexist than that, jajajaja.

Wondering if anyone who has been to both Cartagena and Medellin would share their opinion for me. I was in Cartagena last summer and had a great time, wondering if I should hit it again or try Medellin.

Things I enjoyed about Cartagena:

-Had no issue not being fluent in Spanish (Google translate and such).

-Loved the club scene for picking up girls (places like Space).

-Beaches weren't bad either.

-Enjoyed the general attitude of girls I was with. Didn't feel rushed to finish or anything. Just about all gave BBBJ before.

-Looking for caramel to brown complexion, not into the darker almost black so much.

-Usually paid 250 K for short time with multiple finishes, didn't do more that 300 K.

Any feedback you can give me on Medellin vs Cartagena on the above points is appreciated. Also thinking about trying Rio.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2654462]They are all the same. It is a common characteristic of Romance languages (Latin-based languages: French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Romanian) that things are assigned a gender and the article (the, a, one, two) that refers to the word must coincide with the gender assigned to that word.
[/QUOTE]You could jump ahead of the times and start practising with an -"e" now. There is already a movement among educated younger people:

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/world/americas/argentina-gender-language.html[/URL]

In Spanish, the only Romance language in which I consider myself fluent, there are two main things to remember when considering gender. First, although there are very few words that end in -o that are feminine, [I]la mano[/I] being the only common one, there are quite a few verbs that are masculine but end in -a. The good news there is, most of those end in -ma and have Greek rather than Latin origin. The most common one is [I]el problema[/I] but you have el drama, el tema, etc. One that does not follow that pattern is [I]el planeta[/I].

Then you have the fact that if a feminine noun begins with an unstressed 'a' or 'ha,' the article reverts to 'el' even though the noun remains feminine. Common examples would be [I]el arma[/I] and [I]el hacha[/I]. This is to avoid 'glottal stops' and make the language flow more smoothly. Try it both ways. Say 'la hacha' and then 'el hacha' and you will see what I mean. This is not necessary in the plural versions [I]las armas[/I] and [I]las hachas[/I]. Those would be pronounced like 'la sarmas' and 'la sachas' and don't require the pause or gottal stop.

Finally, there is 'apocopation. ' That means that if you have a masculine noun, you drop the final 'o' from the indefinite article. Un peso and not uno peso. Tercer piso and not tercero piso. Buen theía and not bueno theía. Those are all examples of apocopation, which does not exist on the feminine side of things.

Also remember the rules apply to numbers as well, both cardinal and ordinal. Doscientos pesos, doscientas mujeres. La tercera vez, el cuarto cuarto (the fourth quarter of a game, sounds very funny to angloparlantes).

This is a message from a FB chick in Medellin this morning "yes of course love I charge 250 plus taxi". I only said it would be nice to meet her when I arrived LOL. She did not beat around the Bush I see but I told her I would have to pass. I know it is not everyone but yeah those prices are out there I see. It will be a cold day in hell before I pay some shit like that.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2654618]...

Finally, there is 'apocopation. ' That means that if you have a masculine noun, you drop the final 'o' from the indefinite article. Un peso and ...[/QUOTE]Thank you, I did not know that and have been wondering about it!

[QUOTE=AtlNightmare;2654635]... It will be a cold day in hell before I pay some shit like that.[/QUOTE]I have paid 250 when the exchange rate was 2900. I was fully aware of the going rate and been in Medellin for a while. Sometimes (but not always) a little (but not too much, LOL) flexibility does not hurt, and like JB says, one can negotiate more time.

[QUOTE=AtlNightmare;2654635]"yes of course love I charge 250 plus taxi".[/QUOTE]You do know that means 250 thousand pesos colombianos and not 250 Yew Ess dollars, right? So a little over sixty dollars.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2654697]I have paid 250 when the exchange rate was 2900. I was fully aware of the going rate and been in Medellin for a while. Sometimes (but not always) a little (but not too much, LOL) flexibility does not hurt, and like JB says, one can negotiate more time.[/QUOTE]I will do 250 Colombian pesos I thought she meant US.

One place Spanish has English beat in terms of sexism (if only a little) is with last names or apellidos. You carry the apellido of both parents (father's first then mother's). Of course your mom's name gets dropped for your kids. They take your and their own mom's first apellido. So there is that.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2654464]A group of 999,999 females and you add one male and that flips the gender from feminine to masculine? Show me something, anything, that is more sexist than that, jajajaja.[/QUOTE]

I honestly enjoy Cartagena more when I got for vacation with family or went with a significant other in the past for romance. As opposed to mongering. Here are my thoughts:

-Medellin is a bit more of an issue if you don't know any Spanish, but it's doable.

-Lots of fun clubs in Medellin if that's what you want.

-No beaches in Medellin, but I don't care because I live in Florida and we have better, cleaner beaches without the folks constantly trying to sell you something. I avoid the beach when I go to Cartagena and stick with the hotel pool.

-Weather is usually better in Medellin if you like moderate temperatures. Cartagena is always hot and humid, like it is here in Florida in the summer. Since I can get that here, I don't need to go to CTG for it.

-I have no issues with most of the girls I see in Medellin. Many give GFE. The girls I see always give BBBJ and most of the ones I see give BBFS (although most of them are not hardened pros. I would require a condom for them).

-You can get all complexions in MDE. White to dark.

-Paisa accent is much clearer and prettier than CTG accent, often which I cannot understand (e. G. , the taxistas).

-I never pay 250 - 300 in MDE. I pay 150 to 150 plus taxi (which gets you to 170-200).

Just my two cents. Actually, MDE sucks. All of you guys considering MDE should go to CTG instead and I will rough it in MDE. .

[QUOTE=Jefferson1993;2654544]Wondering if anyone who has been to both Cartagena and Medellin would share their opinion for me. I was in Cartagena last summer and had a great time, wondering if I should hit it again or try Medellin.

Things I enjoyed about Cartagena:

-Had no issue not being fluent in Spanish (Google translate and such).

-Loved the club scene for picking up girls (places like Space).

-Beaches weren't bad either.

-Enjoyed the general attitude of girls I was with. Didn't feel rushed to finish or anything. Just about all gave BBBJ before.

-Looking for caramel to brown complexion, not into the darker almost black so much.

-Usually paid 250 K for short time with multiple finishes, didn't do more that 300 K.

Any feedback you can give me on Medellin vs Cartagena on the above points is appreciated. Also thinking about trying Rio.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jefferson1993;2654544]Wondering if anyone who has been to both Cartagena and Medellin would share their opinion for me. I was in Cartagena last summer and had a great time, wondering if I should hit it again or try Medellin.

Things I enjoyed about Cartagena:

-Had no issue not being fluent in Spanish (Google translate and such).

-Loved the club scene for picking up girls (places like Space).

-Beaches weren't bad either.

-Enjoyed the general attitude of girls I was with. Didn't feel rushed to finish or anything. Just about all gave BBBJ before.

-Looking for caramel to brown complexion, not into the darker almost black so much.

-Usually paid 250 K for short time with multiple finishes, didn't do more that 300 K.

Any feedback you can give me on Medellin vs Cartagena on the above points is appreciated. Also thinking about trying Rio.[/QUOTE]I think if you want value Medellin is better, but honestly you can't go wrong with either. I've had good experience in both cities.

Arrived at the airport and couldn't buy a sim there so I offered the taxi 90,000 pesos to poblado. That is actually the same rate that I paid when I took uber back to the airport when I went home, so you really don't have to worry about being ripped off like cancun. Offer 90 k and off you go. The hotel I stayed at had to meet the girls in the lobby to bring her up. Hassle. My advice is get a apartment in medellin with airbnb or poblado rentals. Avoid hotels and the walk of shame.

I went to Oviedo mall to change dollars and buy a sim on the second floor. Store had a red sign forgot the name. I received 3900 to 1 at the cambios. The mall is where I saw the hottest girls. If you want to practice game, this is the place.

First night I slept to recover from flight. Got up in the morning and went to loutron. Nasty attitude. Didn't take a girl. The place had a bad feel and bad attitude, so I left. Went to energy casa and they had a large lineup there. Didn't take. Went to casa sexy amigas. Picked a girl from there and got a BBJ for extra 50 k pesos. After busting a nut I was done for the night. Next couple nights I checked out the strip clubs and will condense:

I went to La Isla, Fase dose, Luna Lunera, and san diego show bar. They all sucked. The girls were so much uglier than a few years ago. La isla was the best but that isn't saying much. That place was like the playboy mansion 4 years ago. Now you will find a couple girls there. Fase dos and the now smaller san diego show bar was awful. Luna lunera is now a Clip joint. I saw a girl there tried to sit with her, but the waiter said it was 150,000 minimum consumption to sit with her. Avoid this place. I don't know if the locals pay this and I was being targeted for being American, but this place was a hustle from the second I walked. Awful place. Most of the girls looked like they were hit by the ugly stick at the all the strip clubs. Next night I went to gustos for the first time. Again, I wasn't attracted to one girl. Really hard looking older girls there. I left after 30 minutes. Outside gustos on the street are where all the hookers gather. It was like being in front of Help in Brazil back in the day. You can find a girl in this area for sure but you should have a apartment because the nice hotels will probably give you crap if you bring girls from there every night. Next day I ate a the best seafood restaurant I ever had. Its called Pesqueira- Charcuteria del Mar. So many unique dishes on the menu. I wish I went the first day.

Last day I went to OM spa in the mall. Got the 2 girl massage and happy ending / topless which cost me an extra 100 k for each girl. I know its more than I should have payed but when 2 topless girls are ready to do their thing, 100 k each seemed fine. LOL. At night I did the hookah bar until closing at 4 am. Bottom line, I didn't like Medellin this time. Its the cheapest bang per buck right now but the girls just weren't that attractive. When I got home I booked a flight to Rio which is the gold standard. I'm done with these subpar mongering destinations.

[QUOTE=Jefferson1993;2654544]Wondering if anyone who has been to both Cartagena and Medellin would share their opinion for me. I was in Cartagena last summer and had a great time, wondering if I should hit it again or try Medellin.

Things I enjoyed about Cartagena:

-Had no issue not being fluent in Spanish (Google translate and such).

-Loved the club scene for picking up girls (places like Space).

-Beaches weren't bad either.

-Enjoyed the general attitude of girls I was with. Didn't feel rushed to finish or anything. Just about all gave BBBJ before.

-Looking for caramel to brown complexion, not into the darker almost black so much.

-Usually paid 250 K for short time with multiple finishes, didn't do more that 300 K.

Any feedback you can give me on Medellin vs Cartagena on the above points is appreciated. Also thinking about trying Rio.[/QUOTE]Well, my two cents worth view: my routine is to usually visit both places every time I go to Col. The only thing that CTG has better is the wonderful fresh seafood that I crave. And yes it does cost much more to P4 P in CTG. You won't find the 30 k diamond in the rough street chicas of MDE which I luv to chase, and are my preference. I do speak fluent Espanol, which definitely helps me in my conquests. Buena suerte. Luvchicas.

I left the airport and offered 90 k to taxi. It was the same price as uber on the way back so you don't have to worry about being ripped off like Cancun. Went to Oviedo mall and bought sim card on the second floor. Had a big red sign. The hottest girls were at the mall. Great place to practice game. Changed dollars at the cambios at the mall and received 3900 to 1.

Went to Loutron, energy casa and sexy amigas. Loutron had a bad feel and bad attitude. Energy had large lineup. Didn't pick a girl. Sexy amgas had a girl. I paid her 50 k extra for BBBJ.

Next night went to the strip clubs: la isla, fase dos, san diego show bar, and luna lunera. The girls all looked like they were hit by a ugly stick. Las isla had a couple girls that were cute but the place went downhill. Used to look like the playboy mansion 4 years ago. Luna lunera is now a Clip joint. Waiter said I had to pay 150,000 for minimum consumption to sit with the girl I was going to drink with. I left. Its a real hustle when you walk in there. Avoid. San Diego is now half the size it was. Avoid.

Went to Gustos next night. All the girls looked ugly hard and older. I left. Outside gustos is where all the hookers hang out, like Help in Brazil. You will find a girl there but I would get a apartment so the nicer hotels don't give you crap. Next day went to a amazing seafood restaurant called Pesqueira Charcuteria del Mar. The menu had amazing unique dishes. Last day went to OM spa in the mall and did the 2 girl massage and paid an extra 100 k for each girl to get the happy ending and go topless. I know its a lot but I wasn't in the mood to negotiate. At night I did the hookah bar until 4 am. Bottom line Medellin is a great cheap bang per dollar but its not that great anymore compared to 4 years ago. When I got home I booked a trip to RIO which is the gold standard. I'm done with the subpar mongering destinations.

[QUOTE=AtlNightmare;2654711]I will do 250 Colombian pesos I thought she meant US.[/QUOTE]That is something you should always clarify. It's very common for girls to say 200 or 250 when they mean 200 or 250 mil pesos. However, there are some girls who expect you to think they are talking in pesos, bit they want dollars when in your room.

The solution is simple. Respond with, for the girl you mentioned.

Siempre pago 200 mil mas taxi, o 250 mil no mas para taxi.

I always pay 200 k plus more for taxi, or 250 k with nothing more for taxi.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2654618]
… there are quite a few verbs that are masculine but end in -a. The good news there is, most of those end in -ma and have Greek rather than Latin origin. The most common one is [I]el problema[/I] but you have el drama, el tema, etc. One that does not follow that pattern is [I]el planeta[/I].
[/QUOTE]Great lesson, except those aren't verbs señor.

Ha ha yeah I meant nouns. Un pedo de cerebro. Es malo que hiciera el error. Also [B]nouns[/B] ending in -cion (the oh will have an accent but I cannot defeat the autocorrect) will be feminine. I do not think there are any exceptions on that one. -ion (also with accent on the oh) same but there may be a few exceptions on that one, not sure. The worst ones are the [B]nouns[/B] that end in -e. Those you pretty much have to memorize. If you have to guess, guess feminine on those. La parte, el balde, la suerte, el chinche. No real pattern but I do believe numerically a majority are feminine.

Then you have your abbreviations, which can be confusing. [I]La[/I] moto and [I]la[/I] foto are not feminine nouns ending in -o; they are abbreviations of the feminine nouns 'motocicleta' and 'fotografia' (should have an accent on the eye). La combi, la bici, la tele, same thing. Abbreviated feminine nouns. And don't get me started about 'el radio' vs. 'la radio. ' The forearm bone is 'el' radio and that is also the radius of a circle. But the thing you listen to? Hmm well there is 'la radiografia' (again with an accent on the second eye to avoid a diphthong where there is a 'weak' vowel), and the word radio comes from 'radiograma. ' But in some parts of the Spanish-speaking world, the thing you listen to is feminine (la radio) and in other parts it's masculine (el radio).

Another confusing family of [B]nouns[/B] are those nouns ending in -ista. Those always refer to people's jobs or roles so a male dentist is 'el dentista' and a female dentist is 'la dentista. ' Things like el periodista, el recepcionista, etc. Will sound funny at some point as you start to understand more. Then you have certain nouns where the article actually determines the meaning. El papa = the pope. La papa = a fucken potato. El cura = a priest. La cura = the cure. And for all you people buying tussi from taxistas (another example of -ista being gender neutral), when your portero says, 'Viene la policia' he could mean any number of police in general, or one single female cop. If he says 'Viene el policia,' it means one single male cop is coming. Again, 'policia' should have an accent on the second eye because of the strong / weak vowel thing. I do commend the autocorrecting software since you get banned if you slag it.

I'm not saying a total fall off but my last 6 months there it seems like there has been few far in between GFE pretty girls. Yes they are still there, and no I'm not talking about the "Perfect 10 paisa" who are dead fish and check their Insta all the time.

I think some Great ones have retired as well. Kathy, Angel and Vanessa come to mind.

It's almost as if between the rise of social media and girls able to cut deals with foreigners, ease of accents to Shengen Euro Tourist Visa and girls knowing their value more, the 8's are harder to find in this profession in this city.

I know they aren't all gone however it seems I have to search more and more for those types. Have you noticed also on all the prepago sites that they are very one note girls.

Also contributing to this is the Venezualns flooding the market, cheaper product kinda muddy the waters a bit.

I know that this profession is ebys and flows but who knows what will happen in the future. I wonder with inflation if girls rates will finally go up or stay to the prices in CO that they hace been for the past 7 years.

Just wanted to chime in here, I'll write some reviews because I know some of you still enjoy my writing and photos but the last crop made it less enjoyable or "nothing to write home about".

Just some thoughts.

- Blue.

[QUOTE=RecoIndite;2654721]One place Spanish has English beat in terms of sexism (if only a little) is with last names or apellidos. You carry the apellido of both parents (father's first then mother's). Of course your mom's name gets dropped for your kids. They take your and their own mom's first apellido. So there is that.[/QUOTE]They seem to understand names here in this country. Also, when they turn 18 they are allowed to change their given (first) name to anything they want on their cedula, and that instantly becomes their legal name. Simply brilliant. I was very glad Catgirl took advantage of that option. Geez.

When you said dropped for the mother's maternal apellido, that could be interpreted two ways, as in retained or lost. I believe in your example you meant remove or lose the maternal last name for the child, which would be the traditional way here. However, it is not a legal requirement to give the child his (or hers) paternal name.

How do I know this? Amazonia finally birfused the baby on January 21, a healthy thriving boy. There is some confusion about the paternity which as you can imagine is not an uncommon situation, obviously and especially if there was no prenatal paternity testing. Let's just say I have a keen interest in this subject and leave it at that for now, jaja. She gave both her same last names to the boy, and there is no paternal name for the child. Get the picture?

Ostee Out, I have never been happier, in fact, it would not be too much of a stretch to say congratulations could be in order. I will keep you posted and maintain to the best of my ability, my posts as a No Bullshit Zone. My audience gets me and they are mostly lurkers and you know who you are. I will as always, Keep on keeping' On.

[QUOTE=LuvChicas;2654786]You won't find the 30 k diamond in the rough street chicas of MDE which I luv to chase[/QUOTE]I differ on that opinion based on personal experience, although we both may be projecting a bit.

I have found several exactly what I call diamonds in the rough. I don't use a numerical rating system because other's peoples opinions on how attractive a girl is to me, is irrelevant.

With that said, I will post fotos of my current diamond in the rough, Pumpkin, who was exactly as you described, a random Ground Zero, 30 mil COP find. And as cute and even gorgeous as she is physically, her personality and sexual proclivities are off the hook and chain. That means exceptional. And she is not the only one, by far.

The Blue Tooth speaker in her hand was a gift or regalo I gave her because she loved mine. The chicas love regalos and they generally assign a psychological value to the gift or regalo that is greater than the actual cost. For example, that little speaker cost me 35 mil COP. From the way she squealed and carried on about it, you would have thought I paid 100 K. Most recently, two days ago, she came to my hotel, stayed for over two hours and charged me 70 K. She lives two blocks from the The Nutti and Ground Zero, so there is no taxi.

I paid her under fair market value determined by The Law of Supply and Demand and yet another reason why it is beneficial to understand that inviolate economic rule. She was happy, I was happy, and that is the hallmark of a good deal, when both parties are happy. Ostee Out.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2654846]I'm not saying a total fall off but my last 6 months there it seems like there has been few far in between GFE pretty girls. Yes they are still there, and no I'm not talking about the "Perfect 10 paisa" who are dead fish and check their Insta all the time.

I think some Great ones have retired as well. Kathy, Angel and Vanessa come to mind.

It's almost as if between the rise of social media and girls able to cut deals with foreigners, ease of accents to Shengen Euro Tourist Visa and girls knowing their value more, the 8's are harder to find in this profession in this city.

I know they aren't all gone however it seems I have to search more and more for those types. Have you noticed also on all the prepago sites that they are very one note girls.

Also contributing to this is the Venezualns flooding the market, cheaper product kinda muddy the waters a bit..[/QUOTE]Your observations could be true if you are a strongly accurate intuitive person. If like most people in the American culture, you trend more toward judgmental than intuitive (this is Myers-Briggs shit) then I am afraid you need data. Statistics are not the end-all answer to everything which is why we say, in statistics the only absolute truth is that statics can absolutely be made to lie.

The underlying point is that basing your conclusions on two or three or two hundred chicas you call "eights" who are not around any more, would still not have the power of statistical significance based on the rough numbers of chicas overall in Colombia, in the P4 P game. Maybe it's more true for the Facebook population and than other subsets, I don't know, I don't have a Facebook account.

In conclusion your observations could be true if you have strong accurate intuition. Otherwise, a lifetime of mongering will not approach statistical significance to draw the kinds of conclusions you suggested, and you would be projecting and not understanding that you don't know what you don't know. Ostee Out, and Keep On Keepin' On.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2654275]You misunderstand me a little. I mean that I would not rate a girl purely on her looks. Bcos that means nothing to me.

I am happy with the rating system. Here is mine, it has 3 scores and is based on a combo of looks, attitude, performance. The whole experience. - great, ok, shlt.[/QUOTE]Yes, your rating system might be different and include all that extra stuff but none of that matters to the rest of us because your not going to share her contact info unless you really know a monger on here, which I agree with seeing as what happened recently with Maria as an example. But the regular rating system based on strictly her looks is what matters to the rest of us. This board is literally full of guys bragging (I am not complaining keep the pics coming) or debating over various topics for the most part. So yah we all have to implore our own rating system when looking for chicas online through various sources because your system won't apply.

Just want to add this as I just randomly ran into it and it definitely explains all the rate changes and GPS attitude. Not that it matters as there is so much available but one should know when using seeking this is what you will encounter. Hopefully, she gets even more attention. In other words, seeking is not worth the price of admission for Colombia. If you already have it for other countries then it is a great extra source but Facebook is sufficient.

Sweetexpectative (in case the link is against the rules).

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f188b563-d8d5-4d41-846f-b87e4d99492b[/URL]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2654784]Arrived at the airport and couldn't buy a sim there so I offered the taxi 90,000 pesos to poblado. That is actually the same rate that I paid when I took uber back to the airport when I went home, so you really don't have to worry about being ripped off like cancun. Offer 90 k and off you go. The hotel I stayed at had to meet the girls in the lobby to bring her up. Hassle. My advice is get a apartment in medellin with airbnb or poblado rentals. Avoid hotels and the walk of shame.

I went to Oviedo mall to change dollars and buy a sim on the second floor. Store had a red sign forgot the name. I received 3900 to 1 at the cambios. The mall is where I saw the hottest girls. If you want to practice game, this is the place.

First night I slept to recover from flight. Got up in the morning and went to loutron. Nasty attitude. Didn't take a girl. The place had a bad feel and bad attitude, so I left. Went to energy casa and they had a large lineup there. Didn't take. Went to casa sexy amigas. Picked a girl from there and got a BBJ for extra 50 k pesos. After busting a nut I was done for the night. Next couple nights I checked out the strip clubs and will condense..[/QUOTE]Yes, please spread the word, preach it, Medellin is a subpar mongering destination.

BTW mi amigos, that is what can controls price, not what you pay. You will understand it one day, or I will die trying. Figuratively, por supuesto.

Love you guys, and I want to bear your children. Figuratively, speaking, jajjajjaa.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2654464]A group of 999,999 females and you add one male and that flips the gender from feminine to masculine? Show me something, anything, that is more sexist than that, jajajaja.[/QUOTE]Old school Muslim religion. That's one example, if we take it out of the language arena. However, language, culture and therefore religion are all related. So we did not take it out of the arena, we moved it to a multi-purpose stadium.

Started talking to some chick that lives in Laureles on cupid the other day. She sent me a bunch of pictures and videos and told me her story. Parents died when she was young, bla, bla, bla. She is from Bmanga and when she first went to Medellin got a roommate who she did not know was a cam model and hooker. She said she soon moved out from staying with the chick.

The next day I told her I wanted to check out Bmanga and asked for suggestions on what I should see. She damn near cursed me out telling me to look on google because she is not a tour guide. So I deleted her. Later that day she sent more pics and videos but they all had captions in English and there was no time between them, which means a mass copy and paste job. Then she sends more a few minutes ago.

I have not responded since I deleted her, and she has not spoken, only sending out the photos and shit at random. Of course her angle would be money. But this seems to be a sloppy way of trying to get it. Is it that many guys that fall for this? (Well I guess so since people are afterall sending money for pics and videos.) But it seems she could have at least tried to be sweet and lure me in instead of biting my head off when I asked for things to do in her hometown.

She is here now, in my bed, sleeping. She is a Web cam model and got off work at 6 AM, and showed up on my doorstep early this morning. I unblocked her a few days after the incident, I don't remember exactly, when she tried to hack my WU account. This is the first time I have seen her since then. I am going out now with my amigo to get a black market WiFi hot spot SD chip for my fone because the Internet signal is so fucking weak at The Nutti. For those of you guys coming here to The Nutti (Nutibara Hotel) PM me after you arrive and I may be able so solve the same problem for you, cheap, if Internet is important to you.

I am leaving her alone in my room. My computer is locked, my true valuables are in the room safe or on me. There is a ton of little stuff she can pilfer but I say she won't and if I am wrong, I don't really care. She will probably sleep the entire time because she was up all night. I told her if she touched any of my things I would dangle her out my eighth story window by her ankles as a warning, and next time I would drop her. I said it in a way just crazy enough that she wonders if I really would. I am crazy. I wouldn't do it because I am not strong enough. Otherwise, I would. Nobody here is strong enough to do it if she was conscious. Remember what I told you about her before, big and muscular and strong.

Put that in your bong and smoke it. When you start fucking and sucking and 7 AM in the morning, it's not so hard to average 3.5 chicas per day. Jajajajajajajaaaaajajaa.

Ostee Out.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2655017]Started talking to some chick that lives in Laureles on cupid the other day. She sent me a bunch of pictures and videos and told me her story. Parents died when she was young, bla, bla, bla. She is from Bmanga and when she first went to Medellin got a roommate who she did not know was a cam model and hooker. She said she soon moved out from staying with the chick.

The next day I told her I wanted to check out Bmanga and asked for suggestions on what I should see. She damn near cursed me out telling me to look on google because she is not a tour guide. So I deleted her. Later that day she sent more pics and videos but they all had captions in English and there was no time between them, which means a mass copy and paste job. Then she sends more a few minutes ago.

I have not responded since I deleted her, and she has not spoken, only sending out the photos and shit at random. Of course her angle would be money. But this seems to be a sloppy way of trying to get it. Is it that many guys that fall for this? (Well I guess so since people are afterall sending money for pics and videos.) But it seems she could have at least tried to be sweet and lure me in instead of biting my head off when I asked for things to do in her hometown.[/QUOTE]That is more than cultural differences, she is certifiably loca. I have one sleeping in my bed now. The reason they can still be worth it is as my dad taught me, the crazier the chica, the better she fucks. That is a generalization, which I have found to be remarkably true.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2654901]I differ on that opinion based on personal experience, although we both may be projecting a bit.

I have found several exactly what I call diamonds in the rough. I don't use a numerical rating system because other's peoples opinions on how attractive a girl is to me, is irrelevant.

With that said, I will post fotos of my current diamond in the rough, Pumpkin, who was exactly as you described, a random Ground Zero, 30 mil COP find. And as cute and even gorgeous as she is physically, her personality and sexual proclivities are off the hook and chain. That means exceptional. And she is not the only one, by far.

The Blue Tooth speaker in her hand was a gift or regalo I gave her because she loved mine. The chicas love regalos and they generally assign a psychological value to the gift or regalo that is greater than the actual cost. For example, that little speaker cost me 35 mil COP. From the way she squealed and carried on about it, you would have thought I paid 100 K. Most recently, two days ago, she came to my hotel, stayed for over two hours and charged me 70 K. She lives two blocks from the The Nutti and Ground Zero, so there is no taxi.

I paid her under fair market value determined by The Law of Supply and Demand and yet another reason why it is beneficial to understand that inviolate economic rule. She was happy, I was happy, and that is the hallmark of a good deal, when both parties are happy. Ostee Out.[/QUOTE]So I get stories, pictures and lessons in economics. Ostee is a true legend.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2654033]Me too and it's served me well over the years. Apply some kind of minimum standard such as '6' or '7' or whatever and then it should be about the vibe with the woman. That will result in the best sex. That's what the board should be about: the best sex and how and where to get it as quickly and cheaply as possible with the least hassle. Running around looking for the elusive '10' or your narrow idea of a '9' will eliminate a lot of great sex. And I don't know from personal experience but I bet chasing '10's' gets mighty costly with only occasional results.[/QUOTE]It's very time consuming and expensive. Fortunately I'm in a great financial situation. I'll agree there performance isn't always the best, but when it is? Or when you end up having some chemistry (I'm fluent in Spanish) it's fucking awesome.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2655017]... Of course her angle would be money. But this seems to be a sloppy way of trying to get it. Is it that many guys that fall for this? (Well I guess so since people are afterall sending money for pics and videos.) ...[/QUOTE]I think that may be her handler who can be a man if you have not confirmed before. That person could be talking to many men so is not keeping track and sending out the pictures to everyone.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2654833]..El cura = a priest. La cura = the cure...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the interesting post, What is the difference between la mar. And el mar.? I see many restaurants are called "la mar." and not "el mar.".

[QUOTE=Jimbox;2655052]So I get stories, pictures and lessons in economics. Ostee is a true ******.[/QUOTE]If I Die Tomorrow I Die a Happy Man (that will be my epitaph on my tombstone).

Until such time, I will continue to document this journey. I have no idea what is next, but I promise it will be different and better.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2654808]That is something you should always clarify. It's very common for girls to say 200 or 250 when they mean 200 or 250 mil pesos. However, there are some girls who expect you to think they are talking in pesos, bit they want dollars when in your room.

The solution is simple. Respond with, for the girl you mentioned.

Siempre pago 200 mil mas taxi, o 250 mil no mas para taxi.

I always pay 200 k plus more for taxi, or 250 k with nothing more for taxi.[/QUOTE]Noted will do thanks!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2655100]Thanks for the interesting post, What is the difference between la mar. And el mar.? I see many restaurants are called "la mar." and not "el mar.".[/QUOTE]So that one is like radio but not for the same reason. Nouns that can be feminine or masculine depending on context are known as 'sustantivos ambiguos. ' With 'Mar.' the story I heard was it was originally a neuter noun in Latin. Interestingly, and there are few other [B]nouns[/B] like this, even though you can say 'el Mar.' OR 'la Mar.' in the singular, in the plural it is always male, 'LOS mares. ' What I would hear a lot in Spain was 'el Mar.' for the sea but 'alta Mar.' (feminine) for high tide. Here is a decent explanation:

[URL]https://www.diccionariodedudas.com/la-mar-o-el-mar/[/URL]

Note that you will fairly often hear native speakers of Spanish say 'la problema' and one time in a shit hole called Clorinda there was a kid selling water in the street yelling 'La agua la agua la agua' (agua is a feminine noun but takes the masculine article because the initial -a is stressed). Yet another time I heard a chicano in Guatemala bragging about being bilingual and he then said 'la agua,' 'la problema,' and 'la DIA' (should have an accent over the eye) all in the same paragraph. My point is, just like native speakers of English say shit like 'if I was you' doesn't mean it's correct and as you learn Spanish you will hear a lot of bad grammar on the streets.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2655100]Thanks for the interesting post, What is the difference between la mar. And el mar.? I see many restaurants are called "la mar." and not "el mar.".[/QUOTE]I cannot say for sure that the restaurants are playing on this or not but you might want to blame Ernest Hemingway (he had a second home in Cuba) for the restaurants calling themselves that, here is a quote from "The Old Man and the Sea" which was written in Cayo Blanco Cuba.

"he always thought of the sea as 'la Mar.' which is what people call her in Spanish when they love her. Sometimes those who love her say bad things of her but they are always said as though she were a woman. Some of the younger fishermen, those who used buoys as floats for their lines and had motorboats, bought when the shark livers had brought much money, spoke of her as 'el Mar' which is masculine. They spoke of her as a contestant or a place or even an enemy. But the old man always thought of her as feminine and as something that gave or withheld great favours, and if she did wild or wicked things it was because she could not help them. The moon affects her as it does a woman, he thought. "

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2655017]But this seems to be a sloppy way of trying to get it. Is it that many guys that fall for this? (Well I guess so since people are afterall sending money for pics and videos.) But it seems she could have at least tried to be sweet and lure me in instead of biting my head off when I asked for things to do in her hometown.[/QUOTE]Nobody ever accused these chicks of being smart businesswomen. Yes, lots of gullible, desperate, and / or dumb gringos who fall for this nonsense.

[QUOTE=AtlNightmare;2654711]I will do 250 Colombian pesos I thought she meant US.[/QUOTE]And it gets down to 20 degrees at night so be sure to bring a big down jacket. But seriously, any country that uses pesos makes it more complicated for the newbie gringo, because the $ sign is also used for pesos and in fact originated that way. Gringos don't face that issue with euro, yen, sterling, etc. Because the symbols are different. Then there is the height and weight thing. If a chica says she is 1,70 and 60 that doesn't mean she is 5 feet tall and weighs 170 pounds. That would be kinda fat to say the least. She means is 1,7 meters tall (between 5'6" and 5'7") and weighs 60 kilograms or 132 pounds. So get a bit familiar with the money, the temperature system, the measurement schemes, and so forth before you go.

[QUOTE=Jimbox;2655052]So I get stories, pictures and lessons in economics. Ostee is a true legend.[/QUOTE]I blocked him. A woman's asshole does not arouse me. Or photos of them.

[QUOTE=AtlNightmare;2654711]I will do 250 Colombian pesos I thought she meant US.[/QUOTE]She wouldn't be asking for $5 taxi fare if she meant $250 usd.

I'm not much of a poster, but the information here really helped me, so I want to give out the info that I have accumulated this past month. First off, I came on the first of January and just took a taxi because I was tired as shit and paid 90 k. I didn't speak more than 5 words in Spanish, so I recommend a few apps preloaded. 1. is sayhi by amazon which I enjoyed when talking to the girls but required internet and 2. Is of course google translate when you got no internet and need to say shit at a snail's pace. Regarding hotels, I moved between Leblon suites hotel and Estelar apartments Medellin. For both I recommend to book for two people then even though you bring different people they never charge the guests (at least in my experience). During my stay I hung out with a couple of ISG guys, and they were great guys and showed me great things. So, I recommend you try to make some friends here which if anyone is coming into Medellin or is here message me and we can meet up because I am in Medellin till the end of February.

The internet Chicas:

In my experience Medellin is a place that can make any man happy, you just have to know what you like. Me as the ISG boys would say am a sentimental * and so I came in with my shit ready. I added up a lot of Facebook girls' weeks before coming as well as started tinder Platinum for that non pro experience. Facebook girls is once again based on what you want. I like to make an hour session into a 3 hour or an overnight stay. So, I try to go with girls who seem less pro and always smoked weed with them to get them to relax, not to mention the better sex. Tinder girls on the other hand is an interesting game to play which I enjoyed because I am too much of a * to talk to girl in real life with just a translator. I am 30 so I think that helped me with getting matches as well as the premium. I was honest with them about my language skills but told them half-truths of what I was looking for. Something I recommend for guys going this route is understand your assets and use them. I am never going to as interesting to them as a native speaker will or will have the shared experiences that they would share with their male counterparts. But what I do have is money and a different attitude towards things which I think really helped my game. So, I used them, I would pay for things like dinner and transport while they showed me places that I would otherwise never see as well as amazing Latina sex. I was never really afraid to show that I had money because let's be honest there really isn't too much else a gringo can offer and a lot of them were OK with that. When it came to drugs, I got tired of people trying to hustle the gringo so I would just get these girls to bring me shit I wanted to do with them which was weed for the most part, other than a few times in which I wanted to try Colombian drugs which made them open up to me and made the experience more authentic.

The Street walkers:

My boy Blingz loved the street walkers and did well with them. We would go to Lleras park, and he taught me a great method which as a non Spanish speaker is a fucking blessing. He would just put in +57 on his phone and go to the girl and she would just put in her number, and you could talk to her later and set whatever you want up. A couple things of note and keep in mind I'm a sentimental * so your experience might differ and your end result might be different because of your expectations. These girls are trying to get back to the park as fast as possible. So don't expect an amazing experience often or anything more in regard to service. The Lleras park club is not really a club but rather a stupid way to waste money because every single girl there is a working girl. So, picking them up in the club is kind of pointless because they also have a deal with the club to get you to pay 50 mil on a drink as a way for them to make more money. Also, don't take taxi from the park because they will overcharge you, but rather just take Didi or uber. But like I said the benefit of these girls and the park is that you get what you see and they seem good for the most part, but make sure to use common sense and remember that you are in foreign country at the end of the day.

Non girl info.

Like I said try to get these girls to take you places once you trust them because why the fuck not LOL. Go see some of Medellin because it's honestly beautiful and so different to the garbage I see in Canada. Places like Comuna 13 with the graffiti as well as the cable cars that take you to Avri park. Sabaneta at night or even for breakfast is such a beautiful experience so make sure you hit that shit up as well as all the other places I forgot to mention.

Things I stumbled on:

- Don't stay in Botero plaza past daytime and make sure to watch your surroundings.

- While I haven't been robbed, I have had a few close calls, so make sure to take some precautions. Like separating your money in case, you get robbed and need money to get back to your hotel.

- Don't fucking think your special to these Facebook girls and grow feelings for them. Understand what you are and try getting a better experience, but no matter what they say, know that you don't mean shit to these girls.

- If you are a non Spanish speaker like me, don't be afraid to ask for help and try to remember that we are all people so most people are nice enough to help.

- The first few days of being here, I really had trouble getting rid of the street hustlers, but just learned to say gracias and not give them attention as I walked.

- if you sit on the patio right beside to walkway in a restaurant and you are accessible from the street, by the pedestrians, be prepared to get hassled by guys trying to get money from you.

That's all I can think of right now, but hopefully this helps somebody who is interested in Medellin. Also, I just want to say this community of guys is great and I wouldn't have had the experience that I had without the guys I met in real life from this message board. But I am still here for a while so anyone who is cool to hang, private message me.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2655161]... Here is a decent explanation:

[URL]https://www.diccionariodedudas.com/la-mar-o-el-mar/[/URL]...[/QUOTE]Thank you, I learn another thing, next time I should google in Spanish for Spanish question too.

[QUOTE=AtlNightmare;2654711]I will do 250 Colombian pesos I thought she meant US.[/QUOTE]You are not in Medellin, right? Based on your reaction to her price, think about her reaction to you not in Medellin. The other member reported similar price also not in Medellin, that is easily two reported in a short time, it can easily be 100 men not ready to session contacting her. Based on this reason, I won't necessary write her off.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2655197]Thank you, I learn another thing, next time I should google in Spanish for Spanish question too.[/QUOTE]Actually I googled in English 'el Mar. Vs la Mar.'

Now I hope no one takes this as a complaint about the autocorrecting software, which is truly awesome, but periods and commas go inside quotation marks. Semi-colons and colons go outside quotation marks. I write correctly.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2655199]You are not in Medellin, right? Based on your reaction to her price, think about her reaction to you not in Medellin. The other member reported similar price also not in Medellin, that is easily two reported in a short time, it can easily be 100 men not ready to session contacting her. Based on this reason, I won't necessary write her off.[/QUOTE]You are right and thanks.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2655161]Note that you will fairly often hear native speakers of Spanish say 'la problema' and one time in a shit hole called Clorinda there was a kid selling water in the street yelling 'La agua la agua la agua' (agua is a feminine noun but takes the masculine article because the initial -a is stressed). Yet another time I heard a chicano in Guatemala bragging about being bilingual and he then said 'la agua,' 'la problema,' and 'la DIA' (should have an accent over the eye) all in the same paragraph. My point is, just like native speakers of English say shit like 'if I was you' doesn't mean it's correct and as you learn Spanish you will hear a lot of bad grammar on the streets.[/QUOTE]Huacho, I really enjoy your detailed Spanish grammar lessons.

It's Italian, not Spanish, but I think most of you will understand. As Huacho mentioned, many words from the Greek end in "a," which makes them look feminine though their gender is masculine. One of my Italian teachers once said, "Tutti I problemi sono maschili. " (Singular: il problema; plural: I problemi).

[QUOTE=Ricardo01;2655196]I am 30. I was honest with them about my language skills but told them half-truths of what I was looking for. Something I recommend for guys going this route is understand your assets and use them. I am never going to as interesting to them as a native speaker. But what I do have is money and a different attitude towards things which I think really helped my game. I was never really afraid to show that I had money because let's be honest there really isn't too much else a gringo can offer and a lot of them were OK with that.[/QUOTE]Great report man, but what type of attitude is this to have? If you are searching for one night stands and chicks to have sex with for money then of course you are right on target to use your assets. Afterall, that is what hookers are after.

But if you think that you will not be as interesting to a chick as a native speaker would be then you are wrong. I was 33 when I first started learning Spanish. I remember like yesterday my first trip to the Dominican Republic in 2005 and a chick on the street in Boca Chica asked me when I arrived. I had to ask my friend how to say yesterday in Spanish.

17 years later, I speak the language well and hardly take hookers because there are enough normal chicks that do find me interesting. If you believe in yourself and put in the effort then chicks that are not hookers will see you as having something to offer besides money.

[QUOTE=Ricardo01;2655196] Medellin is a place that can make any man happy, you just have to know what you like[/QUOTE]Cool. Very cool. I read every word.

Lucky Nuts Your mailbox is Full.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2655208]Actually I googled in English 'el Mar. Vs la Mar.'

Now I hope no one takes this as a complaint about the autocorrecting software, which is truly awesome, but periods and commas go inside quotation marks. Semi-colons and colons go outside quotation marks. I write correctly.[/QUOTE]Ah, I got that. I skipped the Spanish result.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2654934]Yes, your rating system might be different and include all that extra stuff but none of that matters to the rest of us because your not going to share her contact info unless you really know a monger on here, which I agree with seeing as what happened recently with Maria as an example. But the regular rating system based on strictly her looks is what matters to the rest of us. This board is literally full of guys bragging (I am not complaining keep the pics coming) or debating over various topics for the most part. So yah we all have to implore our own rating system when looking for chicas online through various sources because your system won't apply.

Just want to add this as I just randomly ran into it and it definitely explains all the rate changes and GPS attitude. Not that it matters as there is so much available but one should know when using seeking this is what you will encounter. Hopefully, she gets even more attention. In other words, seeking is not worth the price of admission for Colombia. If you already have it for other countries then it is a great extra source but Facebook is sufficient.[/QUOTE]I use a simple rating system which works spectacularly. First a point I think you were making. The 1-10 scale is almost exclusively used here for bragging. Beyond that use it serves almost no purpose.

My rating system is a nested boolean system. It starts with.

1. Do I want to fuck her? If the answer is yes:

2. Is she available for me to fuck? If yes:

3. Can we agree on a price?

That's it. I don't need to worry whether other people want to fuck her, or how much they would pay. It doesn't matter if someone would rate her a 9 and someone else would mark her as a 6. There's no crap about how well she'll perform, because I'll figure that out afterwards.

Occasionally, I'll modify that. I'll ask myself if something I know might want to fuck her. If I think the answer is yes, I'll send them her info.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2655288]But if you think that you will not be as interesting to a chick as a native speaker would be then you are wrong.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it's not the difference between a native speaker and a non-native speaker they care about; they're just obviously not to into the whole translator thing. And the way to get to where you can speak good Spanish is to speak bad Spanish, any kind of Spanish. You don't need to be a 'native speaker.' But once you can hold a real conversation, doors and pussies will start to open up even if you don't have a lot of money to throw around.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2655400]Yeah, it's not the difference between a native speaker and a non-native speaker they care about; they're just obviously not to into the whole translator thing. And the way to get to where you can speak good Spanish is to speak bad Spanish, any kind of Spanish. You don't need to be a 'native speaker.' But once you can hold a real conversation, doors and pussies will start to open up even if you don't have a lot of money to throw around.[/QUOTE]Very true what you and Mr. Entertainment brought up. Learning Spanish has become a top priority for me.

I was in Veracruz / Botero area last month. There were a few Israeli, Spaniard, French and American guys hanging around together. They were drinking with Venezuelan working girls in the middle of promenade with no shirts on for hours every day. They were disrespectful and argumentative to locals and cops, and some of them were arrested and thrown into jail a few times. Locals hated them a lot, and some bars and hotels prohibited the Spaniard and Israeli guys from entering their places. I saw that other gringos stayed away from them.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2655400]Yeah, it's not the difference between a native speaker and a non-native speaker they care about; they're just obviously not to into the whole translator thing. And the way to get to where you can speak good Spanish is to speak bad Spanish, any kind of Spanish. You don't need to be a 'native speaker.' But once you can hold a real conversation, doors and pussies will start to open up even if you don't have a lot of money to throw around.[/QUOTE]Money versus Spanish fluency for Medellin pussy access advantage.

My gut reaction was Spanish fluency wins by a margin.

Then my brain kicked in and said, "No, money. "

I don't know.

What I do know is that having both would be the ideal, jeje.

Ernest Hemingway wrote in English. Back to the subject at hand, what do all of you linguists talk about with girls, the latest reggaeton hits, the cost of their daily room rents in San Diego, how much you are willing to pay for a rato at that moment?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2655169]I cannot say for sure that the restaurants are playing on this or not but you might want to blame Ernest Hemingway (he had a second home in Cuba) for the restaurants calling themselves that, here is a quote from "The Old Man and the Sea" which was written in Cayo Blanco Cuba.

"he always thought of the sea as 'la Mar.' which is what people call her in Spanish when they love her. Sometimes those who love her say bad things of her but they are always said as though she were a woman. Some of the younger fishermen, those who used buoys as floats for their lines and had motorboats, bought when the shark livers had brought much money, spoke of her as 'el Mar' which is masculine. They spoke of her as a contestant or a place or even an enemy. But the old man always thought of her as feminine and as something that gave or withheld great favours, and if she did wild or wicked things it was because she could not help them. The moon affects her as it does a woman, he thought. "[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2655340]I use a simple rating system which works spectacularly. First a point I think you were making. The 1-10 scale is almost exclusively used here for bragging. Beyond that use it serves almost no purpose.

My rating system is a nested boolean system. It starts with.

1. Do I want to fuck her? If the answer is yes:

2. Is she available for me to fuck? If yes:

3. Can we agree on a price?

That's it. I don't need to worry whether other people want to fuck her, or how much they would pay. It doesn't matter if someone would rate her a 9 and someone else would mark her as a 6. There's no crap about how well she'll perform, because I'll figure that out afterwards.

Occasionally, I'll modify that. I'll ask myself if something I know might want to fuck her. If I think the answer is yes, I'll send them her info.[/QUOTE]That is spot on G. That is the real rating system don't give a damn what the next man think. My 8 is my 8 and nobody else's.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2655340]The 1-10 scale is almost exclusively used here for bragging.[/QUOTE]I don't think the default is automatically "bragging" but some need for self validation, without necessarily tacking on Super Ego. It's deep. It is part of the projection and self validation that is rampant on this Web site. Otherwise, pointless from where I sit, but hey, I don't think anyone else is getting harmed by it, so be it. Even when you find like-minded mongers, in theory you are creating more competition for yourself by using a rating system. Jajaja. Mongering is a group effort while being every man for himself at the same time. Yin and Yang.

[QUOTE=Taylor707;2655183]She wouldn't be asking for $5 taxi fare if she meant $250 usd.[/QUOTE]Valid point sir thanks.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2655177]And it gets down to 20 degrees at night so be sure to bring a big down jacket. But seriously, any country that uses pesos makes it more complicated for the newbie gringo, because the $ sign is also used for pesos and in fact originated that way. Gringos don't face that issue with euro, yen, sterling, etc. Because the symbols are different. Then there is the height and weight thing. If a chica says she is 1,70 and 60 that doesn't mean she is 5 feet tall and weighs 170 pounds. That would be kinda fat to say the least. She means is 1,7 meters tall (between 5'6" and 5'7") and weighs 60 kilograms or 132 pounds. So get a bit familiar with the money, the temperature system, the measurement schemes, and so forth before you go.[/QUOTE]I appreciate that and will take all of that into account.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2655400]Yeah, it's not the difference between a native speaker and a non-native speaker they care about; they're just obviously not to into the whole translator thing. And the way to get to where you can speak good Spanish is to speak bad Spanish, any kind of Spanish. You don't need to be a 'native speaker.' But once you can hold a real conversation, doors and pussies will start to open up even if you don't have a lot of money to throw around.[/QUOTE]So true, and whenever someone on this board say's they can function just fine using a translator, they are clueless.

Besides being able to converse with women which takes everything to a totally different level as you have stated, those who can speak some Spanish, can also avoid and diffuse awkward situations which a lot of guys find themselves in when relying on a translator.

I consider myself an intermediate Spanish speaker, I get all the tenses wrong, have problems pronouncing words, and am screwed up on masculine / feminine usage, yet understand probably at least four times more than I can say. As an example, I know the meaning of lots of words, and cannot at times pronounce them correctly, or even remember them, yet when I hear the word being used, I know the meaning of it.

I studied formally at EAFIT for a while, and then had a private tutor for a few months everyday, and it was an eye opener to the language.

Spanish in my opinion is a much harder language than English to learn, in Spanish you can have like four different words for the same thing versus one word in English.

And then you have the "subjunctive tense" which doesn't exist in English as far as I know.

So many rules / regulations on using Spanish as well.

I'm sure you can further elaborate on all this.

Just my two cents on this topic.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2655526]Spanish in my opinion is a much harder language than English to learn, in Spanish you can have like four different words for the same thing versus one word in English.

And then you have the "subjunctive tense" which doesn't exist in English as far as I know.

So many rules / regulations on using Spanish as well.[/QUOTE]So I really, really do not agree that Spanish is the harder language. There they're their. Rough doesn't rhyme rhyme with through and neither rhymes with bough. Tons of silent letters in English where in Spanish you only have one, and it's always silent (unless combined as ch-; 'ch' used to be a separate letter in Spanish, as did 'rr' but the authorities have decided that is no longer true). And then you have lead as in metal and lead as in follow. None of that in Spanish. You can show me a word in Spanish I've never seen before and I can pronounce it correctly. There's rules on what syllable is stressed, and they're quite clear and simple. I would say one thing that's harder about Spanish is the existence of the two past tenses, preterit and imperfect. There is just nothing like that in English. And I guess the masculine vs. Feminine thing. My neighbor is from Macedonia and he said Spanish was easier. My other neighbor said the same thing but she is a native speaker of French and acknowledged that helped.

Regarding the subjunctive in English, it definitely exists but its use is more limited. The most common use is for 'contrary to fact conditions' and that is why 'if I was you,' which you hear all the time, is flat out [B]wrong[/B] It is impossible for you to be me, nor for me to be you. Therefore the subjunctive mood 'were' must be used. 'I would not do that if I were you. ' Another example of the subjunctive in English: 'It is necessary that he go to the store. ' Most native English speakers, though, would probably just say 'he needs to go to the store. ' The first sentence has a change of subject between the independent and dependent clauses and the second one does not, is the difference.

Somebody the other day asked me how I became completely fluent and how I could tell. Most people won't be able to do this but I spent six months without speaking any English at all. By then I was even dreaming in Spanish and that's how I knew. At the point I began that, I had Spanish I-IV at the community college (I later completed a bachelor's in Spanish), so I knew all the tenses but did not have a good grasp of the subjunctive (which is not a tense). The way I learned that was I first learned how to recognize it in speech (the terminal vowel changes, 'escriba' instead of 'escribe,' for example) when I heard it. Then, I asked myself why that person had used the subjunctive instead of the indicative. Same thing when I was reading the newspaper. I did that every day too and did not read in English any more than my job required.

I would say that becoming fluent in Spanish, which took me thirty years, was one of the two or three hardest things I have ever done. I have no inherent talent for languages at all.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2654341]Yes that's just my opinion.

And no I don't think there are 9-10's on fb.

I've seen both in real life and banged them both.

But I will say in the FB scene they are upper tier. But if they worked at la Isla they would struggle to get clients. And I don't even think la Isla has a lot of hot girls but there might be an occasional 8-9 there.

The cycle is once they hit 25 and they enhance their looks they'll transfer to the Gusto / La Isla scene.

Then when they run their course there they'll hit the Panama or Costa Rica scene.

Also realize they're many mongers on FB who prefer to have them early in their 18-21 days with that young flaca look. If that's your thing then these girls would be a 8. This is all subjective and just my opinion on the fb girls.[/QUOTE]Did you part with Scarlett? Or is she also available?

When I first started to go to MDE back in 2006, I was paying 120 mil at the Mansion at an exchange rate of about 2200 or so. So I was paying about $55. In 2022, $55 equates to about 220 mil at an exchange rate of 4000. I usually pay 150 mil plus some for transportation, so I'm paying less now than I was back in 2006. Got to love it!

As far as "girls knowing their value" I am not sure that these girls so-called "high-end" girls really have the kind of value they think. The reality is that you have stupid gringos chasing pussy they could never get in the USA And paying what these girls want without ever bothering to do research to see if the "high end" girl can actually perform well (which often they do not). Their true value is not really much more than the average FB girl. Guys are paying for luck. To say they had a trophy fuck. It's certainly not for performance.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2654846]

It's almost as if between the rise of social media and girls able to cut deals with foreigners, ease of accents to Shengen Euro Tourist Visa and girls knowing their value more, the 8's are harder to find in this profession in this city.

I know that this profession is ebys and flows but who knows what will happen in the future. I wonder with inflation if girls rates will finally go up or stay to the prices in CO that they hace been for the past 7 years.


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[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2655020]She is here now, in my bed, sleeping. She is a Web cam model and got off work at 6 AM, and showed up on my doorstep early this morning. I unblocked her a few days after the incident, I don't remember exactly, when she tried to hack my WU account. This is the first time I have seen her since then. I am going out now with my amigo to get a black market WiFi hot spot SD chip for my fone because the Internet signal is so fucking weak at The Nutti. For those of you guys coming here to The Nutti (Nutibara Hotel) PM me after you arrive and I may be able so solve the same problem for you, cheap, if Internet is important to you.

I am leaving her alone in my room. My computer is locked, my true valuables are in the room safe or on me. There is a ton of little stuff she can pilfer but I say she won't and if I am wrong, I don't really care. She will probably sleep the entire time because she was up all night. I told her if she touched any of my things I would dangle her out my eighth story window by her ankles as a warning, and next time I would drop her. I said it in a way just crazy enough that she wonders if I really would. I am crazy. I wouldn't do it because I am not strong enough. Otherwise, I would. Nobody here is strong enough to do it if she was conscious. Remember what I told you about her before, big and muscular and strong..[/QUOTE]Hi,

Could you please help with weak wifi in the nuttibera hotel? Having terrible weak wifi connection and unable to dial into work and getting into trouble.

Need the SD chip you are talking about in your posting.

Can't PM your mail box full.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2655488]Ernest Hemingway wrote in English.[/QUOTE]The quote is directly from the book. The setting is Cuba, The main character of the book is Cuban, So it seems he needed to mix in a little spanish also.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2655526]So true, and whenever someone on this board say's they can function just fine using a translator, they are clueless.

Besides being able to converse with women which takes everything to a totally different level as you have stated, those who can speak some Spanish, can also avoid and diffuse awkward situations which a lot of guys find themselves in when relying on a translator.

I consider myself an intermediate Spanish speaker, I get all the tenses wrong, have problems pronouncing words, and am screwed up on masculine / feminine usage, yet understand probably at least four times more than I can say. As an example, I know the meaning of lots of words, and cannot at times pronounce them correctly, or even remember them, yet when I hear the word being used, I know the meaning of it.

I studied formally at EAFIT for a while, and then had a private tutor for a few months everyday, and it was an eye opener to the language..[/QUOTE]I got sucked into a debate here one time with a monger here who felt it was not necessary to know Spanish to get laid, which I never said. Yes, anyone can come here and fuck around and even have a good time without speaking a word of Spanish, but every bit of Spanish you learn takes it to another level. I got so frustrated in the debate and the time I wasted that I swore off posting responses for several months. But that was my problem, not his.

I would go as far to say even though I am constantly awash in this feeling that my life can't get any better, the single biggest factor that is making it better, is learning Spanish.

My problem now, is that I am having such a good time already it's hard to find the motivation and discipline to undergo formal Spanish instruction. So I am learning by immersion and osmosis. I may be lazy on the Spanish, but I am a Happy Lazy. The penalty will be I am taking longer than I should, but it feels like in the long run that won't bother me because like I said, I am already happier than a pig in shit.

Learning a foreign language has been called single the hardest thing a brain can do. I don't know exactly what that means, but sometimes I think I feel it. I am certainly not a natural at it.

Someone else said, nothing worthwhile doing is easy. When I hear a mongerer say he's not happy here about the pussy here and he doesn't give a shit about learning any Spanish, I think to myself, "he doesn't really want it."

Sounds like you are functionally literate, which is usually around 12,000 words for educated listeners. The "problem" with Medellin is their Spanish is very idiomatic, it has an accent, and the listeners are mostly uneducated, so if you vary even slightly off of what they are used to hearing, they don't even try to understand you, they give up early and quick. In a way that's good, because it forces me to say the words "right", for here.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2655587]When I first started to go to MDE back in 2006, I was paying 120 mil at the Mansion at an exchange rate of about 2200 or so. So I was paying about $55. In 2022, $55 equates to about 220 mil at an exchange rate of 4000. I usually pay 150 mil plus some for transportation, so I'm paying less now than I was back in 2006. Got to love it!

As far as "girls knowing their value" I am not sure that these girls so-called "high-end" girls really have the kind of value they think. The reality is that you have stupid gringos chasing pussy they could never get in the USA And paying what these girls want without ever bothering to do research to see if the "high end" girl can actually perform well (which often they do not). Their true value is not really much more than the average FB girl. Guys are paying for luck. To say they had a trophy fuck. It's certainly not for performance.[/QUOTE]I pay for opportunity, nothing more.

If I'm willing to pay, then the girl already passed my requirements for attractiveness. I can't speak for anyone else, but for me any girl's attractiveness varies depending on my mood. Paying more because one girl is more attractive than another is a losing game, because it sets the bottom limit on price on the day I am most attracted to her.

Paying for performance is a guessing game. There are a lot of factors that go into performance. Even the world elite athletes have bad days. Expecting a working girl to always have her best day, because someone else reported about her skills will often lead to disappointment.

Instead I pay for opportunity. I have an opportunity to get her comfortable and interested. I have the opportunity to coax an excellent performance out of her. I have the opportunity to get to know her and enjoy the entire encounter.

When it's done, if I took the most of the opportunity, I'm satisfied.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2655526]So true, and whenever someone on this board say's they can function just fine using a translator, they are clueless.

Besides being able to converse with women which takes everything to a totally different level as you have stated, those who can speak some Spanish, can also avoid and diffuse awkward situations which a lot of guys find themselves in when relying on a translator.

I consider myself an intermediate Spanish speaker, I get all the tenses wrong, have problems pronouncing words, and am screwed up on masculine / feminine usage, yet understand probably at least four times more than I can say. As an example, I know the meaning of lots of words, and cannot at times pronounce them correctly, or even remember them, yet when I hear the word being used, I know the meaning of it.

I studied formally at EAFIT for a while, and then had a private tutor for a few months everyday, and it was an eye opener to the language..[/QUOTE]I agree with you. Guys come here and think that using the translator is all they need. It's funny in so many ways. First of all, the translators work great for simple 5 word sentences. What time is it?, Where is the bathroom? Is there a barber nearby? Etc.

But try to form a complex sentence and your translator will leave you in the twilight zone. The other problem is girls here (Latinas in general) have a very short attention span. Especially when they are on FB messenger or WhatsApp with 5 other conversations going simultaneously. Needing to copy her sentence and paste it in the translator and then write out a response and copy the translation and paste it into your communication app is going to take a few minutes no matter how fast you are at it. God forbid she uses some abbreviations which might completely confuse your translator. Meanwhile she has gotten 5 other messages and is concentrating on the ones that have quick responses. Translator users? Ever notice how your conversations sometimes stall out? Now you know why.

As to Spanish being difficult. Yes verb conjugation and extra tenses make the language different than English. But there are some big and I mean huge advantages too. In Spanish, letters and consonants have consistent patterns and sounds. Words spell like they sound. Basically if you can spell it you can pronounce it. Think about English for a second. Take the "A" vowel. Sometimes it is silent. Like in boat, moat, coat, float. Some times it is hard like in: mate, hate, fate, bait and other times it is medium like in: father, matter, hat, cat, flat. So to pronounce words perfectly in English you have to know almost all the words. Because there are so many variations and exceptions.

The reason. Is that English is a amalgamation of many languages. Which really makes the language difficult.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2655340]I use a simple rating system which works spectacularly. First a point I think you were making. The 1-10 scale is almost exclusively used here for bragging. Beyond that use it serves almost no purpose.

My rating system is a nested boolean system. It starts with.

1. Do I want to fuck her? If the answer is yes:

2. Is she available for me to fuck? If yes:

3. Can we agree on a price?

That's it. I don't need to worry whether other people want to fuck her, or how much they would pay. It doesn't matter if someone would rate her a 9 and someone else would mark her as a 6. There's no crap about how well she'll perform, because I'll figure that out afterwards.[/QUOTE]I really like this post, thanks. I completely agree but would also add a subroutine to 2, which is: "Is she available to fuck me in the manner I require (BBBJ) ?

I look back on a session and ask myself, "did I get off?" and the affirmative answer doesn't have a lot to do with this whole ratings scale. Sure there is a minimum threshold- but so many other factors come into play in a positive experience. It's been often said but bears repeating that the hottest girls are often the worst lays.

The monger / friend I know who uses the scale a lot and posts on it here often I think sees it as a market research tool- one more data point to map a particular scene and to gauge its economics. The trouble he runs into- the main conclusion that we all seem to agree upon-is that it's largely unreliable because a 10 to some guys is usually a 6 to him, so the datasets will be inevitably compromised or need adjusting to account for this wild deviation. It's a methodology that has some limited use, but should not be part of the primary tool kit. In a sense it might be usable only for one to keep internal tabs rather than as a networked information pool.

Thanks to all you guys for all the great info in this thread! I'll be in Medellin all of February for my first time. Flying in and out of Bogota so I'll probably hang there for 4-7 days and experience their scene first (not to mention Airbnb's seem much cheaper here, maybe seasonal) before hopping a flight down to MDE for the rest of the month. Maybe hitting Carty for a few days at the end of the trip. I'd love to connect with some of you guys while in town!

I did the Colombian Cupid thing and also followed advice here with a new facebook profile and it's honestly hard to keep up with all the messages I get, especially on Cupid. I'm in the states begging 5's and 6's off sugar daddy sites to meet me so I've had to adjust my expectations and my new motto is "If she ain't a dime, she aint worth my time" I say this in my head every time I view a new facebook / CC profile haha. And by dime I really mean at least an 8. I'll probably add Tinder in the next couple days and was debating Seeking but Seeking seems unnecessary at this point.

Currently shopping for Airbnb's. Wanting something for under $50 a day with a nice balcony w great wifi so I can smoke cigars and work from my laptop. It's interesting trying to read between the lines in the descriptions to figure out if they're "guest" friendly or not. I remember reading on here to first book an airbnb for a day and then negotiate with the owner for a longer stay, right? Also, I've found an apartment I think I like in Poblado but it's on the ground floor with no security. I see this as good and bad. No guest fees or hassles but I feel like a bit of a target too. Do you guys know of any spots in Poblado where I could smoke a cigar and get some work done too? I was looking at Laureles but my Spanish sucks (working hard on it though) so I figured I'd just stick to Poblado.

On the topic at hand, I've dabbled with learning Spanish for years and have played around on Duolingo but have really hit it hard the past few weeks with this trip upcoming. I've still got a long way to go but the key is to just enjoy the journey I think. It will take however long it takes. I've jumped around youtube channels and podcasts and trying to watch Netflix in Spanish only but the Language Transfer podcast is currently my favorite. The English language is made up of mostly Latin and German words while Spanish comes from Latin so there are lots of similarities and Language Transfer starts with what you already know in English and builds from there. To Go in Spanish is Voy and we have a similar English word from the same Latin root, Voyage. Also, Confirmation comes from the latin root of Con Firma. With signature. Spanish word for signature is Firma. Confrontation is Con Front. With front aka forehead. Etc etc. So it's not like trying to learn Chinese. You just have to make the connections and you'll learn about 3 k words.

Unless I'm talking out of my ass because I still suck.

[QUOTE=MateoCast98;2655578]Did you part with Scarlett? Or is she also available?[/QUOTE]I was never with Scarlet. I wish I was LOL. Just giving my opinion on what an 8-9 would be in my book. She is a webcam girl but I have partied with her. That's about it.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2655568]So I really, really do not agree that Spanish is the harder language. There they're their. Rough doesn't rhyme rhyme with through and neither rhymes with bough. Tons of silent letters in English where in Spanish you only have one, and it's always silent (unless combined as ch-; 'ch' used to be a separate letter in Spanish, as did 'rr' but the authorities have decided that is no longer true). And then you have lead as in metal and lead as in follow. None of that in Spanish. You can show me a word in Spanish I've never seen before and I can pronounce it correctly. There's rules on what syllable is stressed, and they're quite clear and simple. I would say one thing that's harder about Spanish is the existence of the two past tenses, preterit and imperfect. There is just nothing like that in English. And I guess the masculine vs. Feminine thing. My neighbor is from Macedonia and he said Spanish was easier. My other neighbor said the same thing but she is a native speaker of French and acknowledged that helped.

Regarding the subjunctive in English, it definitely exists but its use is more limited. The most common use is for 'contrary to fact conditions' and that is why 'if I was you,' which you hear all the time, is flat out [B]wrong[/B] It is impossible for you to be me, nor for me to be you. Therefore the subjunctive mood 'were' must be used. 'I would not do that if I were you. ' Another example of the subjunctive in English: 'It is necessary that he go to the store. ' Most native English speakers, though, would probably just say 'he needs to go to the store. ' The first sentence has a change of subject between the independent and dependent clauses and the second one does not, is the difference..[/QUOTE]Especially with regards to pronunciation English is much harder to learn than Spanish. To, too and two rhyme with you, flu, slough, flew and true. Most of us here grew up with English, making every moment of every day a learning opportunity.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2655623]I really like this post, thanks. I completely agree but would also add a subroutine to 2, which is: "Is she available to fuck me in the manner I require (BBBJ) ?

I look back on a session and ask myself, "did I get off?" and the affirmative answer doesn't have a lot to do with this whole ratings scale. Sure there is a minimum threshold- but so many other factors come into play in a positive experience. It's been often said but bears repeating that the hottest girls are often the worst lays.

The monger / friend I know who uses the scale a lot and posts on it here often I think sees it as a market research tool- one more data point to map a particular scene and to gauge its economics. The trouble he runs into- the main conclusion that we all seem to agree upon-is that it's largely unreliable because a 10 to some guys is usually a 6 to him, so the datasets will be inevitably compromised or need adjusting to account for this wild deviation. It's a methodology that has some limited use, but should not be part of the primary tool kit. In a sense it might be usable only for one to keep internal tabs rather than as a networked information pool.[/QUOTE]I disagree that the best looking girls are necessarily the worst performers. I put some of the blame on the man.

I might be generalizing too much here. Many guys, when they get a really hot girl are too eager. They don't establish a mood, and put the girl in the right frame of mind to enjoy the session.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2655526]So true, and whenever someone on this board say's they can function just fine using a translator, they are clueless...[/QUOTE]Haha, I will be one of those that think translator is fine, at least for the first time. But I do think if you want to get to the next level, knowing the language will help a lot as I have seen it first hand. Because not knowing the language well enough, I had date that the girl thought I cancelled and did not show up. I also had date that the girl showed up when I thought she wasn't coming. All the sentences were short, I actually could understand without translator. The problem was the context switching was too quick, or the girl was using slang that had the opposite meaning. I once had to tell the girl that I won't cancel no matter what to avoid any misunderstanding.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2655623]...is that it's largely unreliable because a 10 to some guys is usually a 6 to him, so the datasets will be inevitably compromised or need adjusting to account for this wild deviation.[/QUOTE]What others think about his 10? It is possible that others all agree with him when he does not agree with others.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2655568]So I really, really do not agree that Spanish is the harder language. There they're their. Rough doesn't rhyme rhyme with through and neither rhymes with bough.l.[/QUOTE]There are 8 different ways to pronounce '. Ough" in English. It is not a phonetci language, unlike Spanish. So also has way more exceptions to rules. So it is much harder to read and write than Spanish. It also has 1. 000 upon 1. 000's more words. A consequence of its evolution through mergers with Latin, Nordic, French, Germanic.

Yes, Huacho is correct (twice in one week) about subjunctive. It does exist but is often not used / used incorrectly. But its use is more limited than in Spanish.

Another factor that slowed my own learning down is this. Colombia is a hugely noisy country and my hearing is not what it once was. It would be difficult enough to pick up small but important inflections in tone, but impossible in a club with 1. 000 decibels of reggaeton.

Here's one way to compare the two languages' vocabularies: Current editions of the "Diccionario de la Real Academia Española" (the "Dictionary of the Royal Spanish Academy" the closest thing there is to an official list of Spanish vocabulary, has around 88,000 words. In addition, the Academy's list of Americanismos (Americanisms) includes about 70,000 words used in one or more Spanish-speaking countries of Latin America. So to round things off, figure there are around 150,000 "official" Spanish words.

In contrast, the Oxford English Dictionary has about 600,000 words, but that includes words that are no longer in use. It has full definitions of around 230,000 words. The makers of the dictionary estimate that when all is said and done, "there are, at the very least, a quarter of a million distinct English words, excluding inflections, and words from technical and regional vocabulary not covered by the OED, or words not yet added to the published dictionary. ".

[QUOTE=JustTK;2655822]Another factor that slowed my own learning down is this. Colombia is a hugely noisy country and my hearing is not what it once was. It would be difficult enough to pick up small but important inflections in tone, but impossible in a club with 1. 000 decibels of reggaeton.[/QUOTE]When this covid is over we will all be Spanish experts after having to listen and interpret through all these masks and glass windows and shit for all this time.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2655825]When this covid is over we will all be Spanish experts after having to listen and interpret through all these masks and glass windows and shit for all this time.[/QUOTE]Haha, that's very true. I am going to develop a Spanish speech impediment accent. Makes it extra-difficult to understand with muffles and without lips.

Comparing the number of words gets tricky if you consider every conjugation of the verb tenses and moods. And of course the imperfect subjunctive can be formed two ways. Are the two alternatives 'hubiera' and 'hubiese' different words? We had a long and inconclusive discussion about this in I believe it was Spanish IV. I will give one piece of anecdotal evidence leaning towards Spanish: a good friend of mine from Argentina said her brother knew over forty different words for 'pussy. ' I don't know anywhere near that many.

Another thing about Spanish is you could learn it in Country A and then go to Spanish-speaking Country be and not understand jack shit for quite a while. I learned mostly in Spain and then I went to Argentina and had NO idea what the fuck they were saying and why they misspelled so many words all the time. I remember going to La Boca in BsAs and a guy in a kiosko was counting out my change in one peso coins (which are now completely worthless). 'Uno, dos, tres, cuatro, chinco' and I am like 'chinco? Where the fuck am I?' Or learn in MDE where the Spanish is quite clear IMO, and then go to Puerto Rico. Good luck with that!

Of course that is true in English as well. If I am absolutely sure someone is speaking English, but I have absolutely no idea what they are saying, they are Scottish. I had an employee from Louisiana and I asked him his name three times. Then I went and looked at his timecard.

Punto Com is 55 K now I was told. An increase of 5 K. Talent looked the same as always. They could use an upgrade, but a decent spot for those that have never been. Had a good session with a repeat. BBBJ and sex in several positions.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2655848]Comparing the number of words gets tricky[/QUOTE]I don't think they count conjugated verb variations in the numbers.

Scottish can be very tough. Scouse too. But for me the country accents of Ireland are the worst. Try this fella out:

[URL]https://youtu.be/pit0OkNp7s8[/URL]

What I have found in Medellin is a lot of the girls are not hardened prostitutes but more like regular girls that have a little side hustle.

I consider myself half fluent and have no problem carrying on a conversation. I have met working girls and take them out to dinner and go dancing and back to my apartment afterwards. If I didn't know any spanish it would be a little awkward in my opinion. Sex is nice but it is much better once a mental connection is made and the girl likes you. Yes you can go to Medellin with little or no Spanish but if you take the time to learn it there is so much more that you can tap into.

[QUOTE=Ricardo01;2655476]Very true what you and Mr. Entertainment brought up. Learning Spanish has become a top priority for me.[/QUOTE]

I hit ground zero today at high noon, and it was quite disappointing.

Lots and lots of ugly chunky Venezuelans milling about, and I didn't see any thin cute ones out, perhaps they were all occupied.

Perhaps it will be better tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2655736]Haha, I will be one of those that think translator is fine, at least for the first time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2655720]Especially with regards to pronunciation English is much harder to learn than Spanish. To, too and two rhyme with you, flu, slough, flew and true. Most of us here grew up with English, making every moment of every day a learning opportunity.[/QUOTE]I have studied Spanish on and off for years, wish I had more time to study the immersion way it is the best. Use it or lose it.

I agree that comparing learning Spanish to learning English is a moot point for a native English speaker. We learned English so young and picked up our language habits so young that there is know way to remember the learning of it,

I think with Spanish there is some frustration with for example having to learn all the conjugations because it is just counterintuitive for an English speaker to find out they have to learn so many different forms of what is one word in English. We get off easy in English by just haveing to add an S to a verb when talking about the second person (I write, you write, they write, we write, he writes) compared to Spanish (Yo escribo, tu escribes, ellos escriben, nosotros escribimos, el escribe) of course in some cases it saves writing because if I say "escribimos" then I do not have to write "nosotros" for the reader to understand - so this does have its advantages - but it just adds to the learning in the meantime.

About a year ago I started studying French. And now Spanish seems much easier LOL. I do appreciate that Spanish has a straightforward 5 vowels sounds. English has 14. Spanish has 16 and 4 of them are nasal vowels which explains why the French sound like snobs when they talk LOL.

[QUOTE=DirtyDJ;2655700]Currently shopping for Airbnb's. Wanting something for under $50 a day with a nice balcony w great wifi so I can smoke cigars and work from my laptop. It's interesting trying to read between the lines in the descriptions to figure out if they're "guest" friendly or not. I remember reading on here to first book an airbnb for a day and then negotiate with the owner for a longer stay, right? Also, I've found an apartment I think I like in Poblado but it's on the ground floor with no security. I see this as good and bad. No guest fees or hassles but I feel like a bit of a target too. Do you guys know of any spots in Poblado where I could smoke a cigar and get some work done too? I was looking at Laureles but my Spanish sucks (working hard on it though) so I figured I'd just stick to Poblado.[/QUOTE]When looking at Airbnb's, always check the "house rules". Also, make your reservation for 2 people. Not one. So you can always justify your guest. PobladoRentals is a place I used to rent from when I first started coming down here because they are very chica friendly, and they have some nice properties.

Speaking good Spanish was probably the greatest single contributor to my success on my recent trip to Medellin. I'd consider myself fluent due to being married to a Central American and working in Central America. I speak Spanish almost every day as my Spanish is stronger than my wife's English. Actually, one of the funniest backhanded compliments I got this trip was from one of the facebook girls, Sara, who told me "no hablas como un gringo. Tienes un accento como un campesino". Or you don't speak like a gringo. You've got a peasant accent. I'd notch that as a win for me and my Central American Spanish. That's not to say I don't make mistakes. I still get noun genders mixed up for some words and my grasp of the subjunctive is less than perfect. But being able to flirt with them and ask them about their lives and families pays dividends in terms of how they treat you.

I don't think Spanish is that hard if you're motivated and in the right environment. It probably took me 2 or 3 years to get close to where I am now. Just like lifting weights, it's about getting something done every day / week. In terms of environment, you can either travel and immerse yourself, or if you are in the States make friends with your Hispanic contractor, yard worker house cleaner, etc. That's also a great way to get discounts and contacts for other jobs. I find that most Spanish-speaking Latinos both abroad and in the US are usually really happy to speak with you, no matter how bad your Spanish, and really glad to teach you about their culture and language.

Also, don't be shy. Use what you know and you will get better / learn more. I've found at least that some of my biggest language mistakes from when I was learning Spanish ended up making good stories later. For example, I used to work with my wife's brother-in-law in Honduras. We don't have a concise term for this familial relationship but in Spanish, he and I are "concuños". Now my big Spanish mistake happened after someone asked us how we knew each other and I proudly stated "somos con cuernos" wanting to say concuños. The literal translation is we are with horns. But the expression "con cuernos" refers to someone whose been cheated on by their spouse. It's something he and I still laugh about.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2655926]I don't think they count conjugated verb variations in the numbers.[/QUOTE]I am not sure either but it would definitely make a difference.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2655926]Scottish can be very tough. Scouse too. But for me the country accents of Ireland are the worst.[/QUOTE]Probably equally challenging but I've spent time in England and Ireland but not in Scotland. So less of an ear for the Scots. I spent half my time in England so I can speak Scouse but it's tough, oi?

If someone wants to start a thread for talking about the Spanish language so it doesn't clutter up all the pussy, feel free. I just met a gringo in a bar and we were chatting and he said, 'It is a shame there aren't any hookers here. ' I said, 'Who told you there weren't any hookers here?' 'Um well I haven't seen any. ' So I showed him on Google maps where the *****houses were, and he did not want to go there because he 'could not speak Spanish. ' That gives one more data point on whether it does or does not matter if you speak Spanish. Now in this particular gringo's case, whether it was a language problem or a [I]huevos[/I] problem, I am not sure. Some of both so why not eliminate the former problem?

"I think with Spanish there is some frustration with for example having to learn all the conjugations because it is just counterintuitive for an English speaker to find out they have to learn so many different forms of what is one word in English."

All verbs in English must also be conjugated. To me, the problem is that because the US educational system sucks, native speakers of English don't know what a perfect tense is, for example, and when confronted with "conjugating verbs," they don't realize they have been doing it in English since they were three years old. Example verb, to fuck. Obviously I fuck, you fuck, we fuck, they fuck. Simple indicative. English grammar is no longer being taught in Yew Ess schools because it's been so long since they taught it, the teachers don't know it. I have fucked a hooker. Past perfect. I fucked a hooker. Simple past tense. I fucked one or more hookers a lot over some period of time. Imperfect. Or in general if I say I fucked a lot of but hookers. How I feel about that and where I am going with that will determine preterite vs imperfecto. If I think of my past fucking as being over and done with, 'Cogí con muchas putas. ' Pretérito because over and done with. But if I view my current situation as being more open ended and it's possible I might screw more hookers, I might go with 'Cogí a con muchas putas,' meaning I fuck a lot of working girls in general, no real time frame.

[QUOTE=Recondite;2655989]Speaking good Spanish was probably the greatest single contributor to my success on my recent trip to Medellin. I'd consider myself fluent due to being married to a Central American and working in Central America. I speak Spanish almost every day as my Spanish is stronger than my wife's English. Actually, one of the funniest backhanded compliments I got this trip was from one of the facebook girls, Sara, who told me "no hablas como un gringo. Tienes un accento como un campesino". Or you don't speak like a gringo. You've got a peasant accent. I'd notch that as a win for me and my Central American Spanish. That's not to say I don't make mistakes. I still get noun genders mixed up for some words and my grasp of the subjunctive is less than perfect. But being able to flirt with them and ask them about their lives and families pays dividends in terms of how they treat you.

I don't think Spanish is that hard if you're motivated and in the right environment. It probably took me 2 or 3 years to get close to where I am now. Just like lifting weights, it's about getting something done every day / week. In terms of environment, you can either travel and immerse yourself, or if you are in the States make friends with your Hispanic contractor, yard worker house cleaner, etc. That's also a great way to get discounts and contacts for other jobs. I find that most Spanish-speaking Latinos both abroad and in the US are usually really happy to speak with you, no matter how bad your Spanish, and really glad to teach you about their culture and language..[/QUOTE]The correct word is not "concu nos". Is concu nados (with and enie).

When you guys start talking grammar I get left back at the bus station. I am a product of a weird Florida public education system that at that time, English instruction was called "Humanities" and I never got any sentence structuring or diagraming or whatever it's called after elementary school. Subject, predicate, noun, verb. That's pretty much it for me. I don't know where I heard it, but somewhere I read for humanoids in my situation, who are older, transplanting to a new country that speaks a foreign language, was to not concentrate on getting everything purrfekt but focus on how to communicate, how to understand and be understood, there won't be any tests, and learn by immersion and osmosis. Half the battle is culture and not specific sounds. That resonated with me because it sounded like less work, jaajjajjaa. Give me another year, I will be functionally fluent in Spanish.

Recent gratuitous fotos.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2656030]"I think with Spanish there is some frustration with for example having to learn all the conjugations because it is just counterintuitive for an English speaker to find out they have to learn so many different forms of what is one word in English."

All verbs in English must also be conjugated. To me, the problem is that because the US educational system sucks, native speakers of English don't know what a perfect tense is, for example, and when confronted with "conjugating verbs," they don't realize they have been doing it in English since they were three years old. Example verb, to fuck. Obviously I fuck, you fuck, we fuck, they fuck. Simple indicative. English grammar is no longer being taught in Yew Ess schools because it's been so long since they taught it, the teachers don't know it. I have fucked a hooker. Past perfect. I fucked a hooker. Simple past tense. I fucked one or more hookers a lot over some period of time. Imperfect. Or in general if I say I fucked a lot of but hookers. How I feel about that and where I am going with that will determine preterite vs imperfecto. If I think of my past fucking as being over and done with, 'Cog con muchas putas. ' Pretrito because over and done with. But if I view my current situation as being more open ended and it's possible I might screw more hookers, I might go with 'Cog a con muchas putas,' meaning I fuck a lot of working girls in general, no real time frame.[/QUOTE]All due respect, and perhaps I started this rampage of Spanish posts, but enough is enough, and I don't mean this in a dis-respectful way, in fact I'm envious of you and others on this board who are totally fluent in Spanish, but this board as of lately has been somewhat devoid of some meaty, nasty posts of what's going on in Medellin, and yes, there are a few members physically here besides me, but seems to be a lot less than prior to the Holidays. Again, no dis-respect.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2656030]"I think with Spanish there is some frustration with for example having to learn all the conjugations because it is just counterintuitive for an English speaker to find out they have to learn so many different forms of what is one word in English."

All verbs in English must also be conjugated. To me, the problem is that because the US educational system sucks, native speakers of English don't know what a perfect tense is, for example, and when confronted with "conjugating verbs," they don't realize they have been doing it in English since they were three years old. Example verb, to fuck. Obviously I fuck, you fuck, we fuck, they fuck. Simple indicative. English grammar is no longer being taught in Yew Ess schools because it's been so long since they taught it, the teachers don't know it. I have fucked a hooker. Past perfect. I fucked a hooker. Simple past tense. I fucked one or more hookers a lot over some period of time. Imperfect. Or in general if I say I fucked a lot of but hookers. How I feel about that and where I am going with that will determine preterite vs imperfecto. If I think of my past fucking as being over and done with, 'Cog con muchas putas. ' Pretrito because over and done with. But if I view my current situation as being more open ended and it's possible I might screw more hookers, I might go with 'Cog a con muchas putas,' meaning I fuck a lot of working girls in general, no real time frame.[/QUOTE]I am; you / we / they are; he / she / it is.

I / he / she / it was; you / they / we were.

I / you / he / she / they / it / we will be.

Etcetera.

Not only does English have conjugations, but the rules aren't consistent. Except for the irregular verbs, conjugation in Spanish is consistent.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2656172] Recent gratuitous fotos.[/QUOTE]Seems like your expanding your horizons, besides the backdoor, your into the pregnant ones. LOL.

There's a whole crew of guys here into them, and I think Tallman spotted like nine pregnant ones out working in Centro a while back he posted about, or maybe it was only a half-dozen.

And on occasion, I have seen three to four out working in Centro.

About a decade ago, I did one that was close to popping, but it just isn't my cup of tea.

Perhaps a three-some of two very pregnant women is in the cards for you, but it might be a bit awkward.

But if anyone can pull this off, I'm sure it's you! LOL.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2656030]" If I think of my past fucking as being over and done with, 'Cog con muchas putas. ' Pretrito because over and done with. But if I view my current situation as being more open ended and it's possible I might screw more hookers, I might go with 'Cog a con muchas putas,' meaning I fuck a lot of working girls in general, no real time frame.[/QUOTE]So the autocorrect defeated my lesson by erasing the 'a' in my example of the imperfect, making it look exactly like the preterite, and making the post useless while making Huacho look stupid. It's really fabulous software, though.

Coger in the first person preterite is see oh gee eye with an apostrophe.

Coger in the first person imperfect is see oh gee eye with an apostrophe and then a 'A' which the autocorrect software erases if you put in accent marks.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2656291]I am; you / we / they are; he / she / it is.

I / he / she / it was; you / they / we were.

I / you / he / she / they / it / we will be.

Etcetera.

Not only does English have conjugations, but the rules aren't consistent. Except for the irregular verbs, conjugation in Spanish is consistent.[/QUOTE]For, four, fore.

Here, hear.

There, their, they're.

Hair, hare.

Etc.

All languages are difficult to learn. The hardest one is the one that you are trying to learn. When you speak your own language you don't stop to think what tense etc you just know what to say and you should do the same for Spanish. Just learn dialogue and how to say something in a particular situation. If you are over 45 or so, it will be difficult so make up cheat sheets of what you want to say and keep it simple. A good canslator can help but better to look up phrases.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2656291]

I / you / he / she / they / it / we will be


Not only does English have conjugations, but the rules aren't consistent. Except for the irregular verbs, conjugation in Spanish is consistent.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ParamySpam;2656108]The correct word is not "concu nos". Is concu nados (with and enie).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Huacho;2656030]"I think with Spanish there is some frustration with for example having to learn all the conjugations because it is just counterintuitive for an English speaker to find out they have to learn so many different forms of what is one word in English."
To me, the problem is that because the US educational system sucks, native speakers of English don't know what a perfect tense is, for example, and when confronted with "conjugating verbs," they don't realize they have been doing it in English since they were three years old. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2656283]All due respect, and perhaps I started this rampage of Spanish posts, but enough is enough, and I don't mean this in a dis-respectful way, in fact I'm envious of you and others on this board who are totally fluent in Spanish, but this board as of lately has been somewhat devoid of some meaty, nasty posts of what's going on in Medellin, and yes, there are a few members physically here besides me, but seems to be a lot less than prior to the Holidays. Again, no dis-respect.[/QUOTE]Out of respect for Surfer's respectful request I started a User Blog called "Learning Spanish" - to find it you back out to the "Colombia Forum" and scroll down past the "Reports" threads and down to the "User Blogs" section. If anyone is interested: As of right now it is on top but of course the order of the threads change according to when the last post was made in each thread. So this may be a conversation that runs its course in a short while but in the mean time I copied and pasted some of the recent posts here (which means the content is not my post but it will say it was posted by me).

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4283-Learning-Spanish&p=2656361[/URL]#post2656361.

Thank you, this is much appreciated.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2656373]Out of respect for Surfer's respectful request I started a User Blog called "Learning Spanish" - to find it you back out to the "Colombia Forum" and scroll down past the "Reports" threads and down to the "User Blogs" section. If anyone is interested: As of right now it is on top but of course the order of the threads change according to when the last post was made in each thread. So this may be a conversation that runs its course in a short while but in the mean time I copied and pasted some of the recent posts here (which means the content is not my post but it will say it was posted by me).

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4283-Learning-Spanish&p=2656361[/URL]#post2656361.[/QUOTE]

Yes I RTTF. In fact I do daily. The Medellin thread is super active and as many of you may know I contribute regularly in other major threads where I have knowledge. Here's the rub. I hve no knowledge of Med. I like to read about it but it all just washes over me. Like some warm pussy juice.

So now here I am most likely coming to Med end of March and have questions as I start planning. So I would trul appreciate it if we could skip the RTTF comments and some generous members provide concise answers. (I am glad to provide any in return on US, Brazil, UK, Germany, Switzerland, Japan, China and Taiwan.

Often questions get asked with no context which is lame. So here is the context:

I prefer to stay at nice hotels in a part of the city that has a lot to do. Cafes. Restaurants and Bars. I am amazed to see a ton of hotels at $35 a night or something. I'm happy to pay to have a nice fit and finish. Maybe balcony and jacuzzi. I am always envious when you guys are showing all that. The buck goes far in Med. So where should I stay what part of city or preferably recommend hotels.

I have a huge list of Facebook girls and maybe I will just do the party in the room thing. But honestly I love the real world club pickup. For reference Scandallo is a fave. I also like Sharks in Germany where obviously it's a lot more commercial but a nice place to relax and chat up your fave girl. It needn't be super luxe like Scandallo but not dicey either. What are the places like this in Med or should I stick to Facebook girls.

Although I've been a ton of places as a Medellin virgin I might enjoy a wingman with similar tastes so feel free to HMU by message. Happy to generally cover drinks or other for my wing. Spanish speakers particularly welcome tho not necessary.

I'm sure I have other questions so def contact me if you are open to helping guide my virgin ass or wing with me.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2656436]
...So where should I stay what part of city or preferably recommend hotels.
...What are the places like this in Med or should I stick to Facebook girls
.[/QUOTE]I always stay in Poblado and I like it. Other folks prefer the Laureles area. Yet others like Envigado or Sabaneta. Poblado is probably the most expensive but also offers the most. There are many nice hotels In Poblado, just check the prices and you will know. I had a wingman this past December and he stayed at the Marriott in Poblado. Nice hotel but quite expensive. I stay in an apartment, and I can bring in chicks any time I want. Very convenient.

Keep in mind that unlike Brazil, most hotels in Medellin are not girl friendly, I. E. They don't let you have female visitors. My buddy who stayed in Marriott did not have a problem with bringing girls. Therefore, the rule varies from hotel to hotel. If you rtff, you will get a list of hotels that are girl friendly.

You cannot find anything like Scandallo or Sharks in Medellin. There are 2 clubs that are a poor version of Scandallo, Fase Dos and La Isla. Practically, any taxi driver knows where they are. They get going late so don't go there before 10 pm.

Parque Lleras in Poblado is a poor version of Sharks. You will find girls roaming around at night. Once you find one you like, either take her to your place or ask her to take you to an ST hotel, within walking distance. The cost of the ST hotel is about 100 K cops, and the girls typically ask around 200 k to 300 k for a session. Most of them would go for 200 k.

Finally, parque Lleras has another club called Gusto, another poor version of Scandallo. Most of the girls there are hard core and ask for too much money. I never liked it.

BTW, Fase Dos and La Isla are strip clubs, but have rooms in the club where you can enjoy some time with a girl from the club. Gusto is a regular club and you can take the girl either to your place or to an ST hotel.

All of the above are in addition to FB girls, my favorites.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2656373]Out of respect for Surfer's respectful request I started a User Blog called "Learning Spanish" -

...[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot buddy. I very much enjoyed the discussion about Spanish grammar, especially coming from folks who know what they are talking about, but it seems to have taken over this thread. Thanks for taking this initiative.

I'm in Medellin and Bogota monthly and I'm going to give my 2 cents. Meeting girls on Tinder is the way to go. Many will say that is a good way to get drugged. In many years of traveling there it has never happened to me. I stay in apartments that have a porter. You just have to be smart. But you can easily meet girls on there for 200,000 pesos or less per encounter. Some of them are just looking for a foreigner to take them on trips. Show them a good time. I met a beautiful 24 year old that spent an entire week with me in Cartagena. I gave her 500,000 pesos as a gift. It was a week of wonderful amazing sex. We even hooked up with a girl at the club and took her back to the hotel and had fun. I'm not much into Street action or the strip clubs. I like to meet normal girls. And tender has been an easy way to do that.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2656436]Yes I RTTF. In fact I do daily. The Medellin thread is super active and as many of you may know I contribute regularly in other major threads where I have knowledge. Here's the rub. I hve no knowledge of Med. I like to read about it but it all just washes over me. Like some warm pussy juice.

So now here I am most likely coming to Med end of March and have questions as I start planning. So I would trul appreciate it if we could skip the RTTF comments and some generous members provide concise answers. (I am glad to provide any in return on US, Brazil, UK, Germany, Switzerland, Japan, China and Taiwan.

Often questions get asked with no context which is lame. So here is the context:

I prefer to stay at nice hotels in a part of the city that has a lot to do. Cafes. Restaurants and Bars. I am amazed to see a ton of hotels at $35 a night or something. I'm happy to pay to have a nice fit and finish. Maybe balcony and jacuzzi. I am always envious when you guys are showing all that. The buck goes far in Med. So where should I stay what part of city or preferably recommend hotels..[/QUOTE]You didn't say how long your coming to Medellin for, and it sounds like based on your previous mongering background that you are used to paying what would be considered lots of money for services which in Medellin will be at a fraction of the cost.

I know some guys might wince at this, but since it's your maiden voyage, and sounds like you have disposable income, you might just stay at the Mansion, or I guess it's called Casa Blanca in Poblado if your only going to be town for a short period of time, or at least for the first week. Lots of newbies stay there, utilize their services which aren't cheap, including the girls that frequent the place, but you can quickly get a taste of things and will be in Poblado, which seems like it will be a good fit for you versus other parts of town.

I'm not inferring that your not capable of managing a monger trip on your own with my recommendation, but Medellin in contrast to the Countries you mentioned is very different, and more diverse, meaning all kinds of venues that you might want to sample, and places you won't even want to get near.

Hopefully this helps.

I am purchasing at apartment and I wanted to know if anyone knew the best vendor to send 70 k usd. The online companies have limits.

[QUOTE=ElCapo;2656494]I like to meet normal girls. And tender has been an easy way to do that.[/QUOTE]I hate to be the one to break this to you, but women who fuck foreigners for money are not 'normal girls.'

[QUOTE=ElCapo;2656494]I'm in Medellin and Bogota monthly and I'm going to give my 2 cents. Meeting girls on Tinder is the way to go. Many will say that is a good way to get drugged. In many years of traveling there it has never happened to me. I stay in apartments that have a porter. You just have to be smart. But you can easily meet girls on there for 200,000 pesos or less per encounter. Some of them are just looking for a foreigner to take them on trips. Show them a good time. I met a beautiful 24 year old that spent an entire week with me in Cartagena. I gave her 500,000 pesos as a gift. It was a week of wonderful amazing sex. We even hooked up with a girl at the club and took her back to the hotel and had fun. I'm not much into Street action or the strip clubs. I like to meet normal girls. And tender has been an easy way to do that.[/QUOTE]Sounds like fun.

I think there is a new and improved version of Google Translate on line I just noticed, or is it just me? Jjajaja. Anywho, at first blush looks much more user friendly and I am excited to take it for a test spin. Uh oh, does this belong in the new Spanish Learning Blog here? I dunno. Let's have fun.

[QUOTE=MedellinLove;2656602]I am purchasing at apartment and I wanted to know if anyone knew the best vendor to send 70 k usd. The online companies have limits.[/QUOTE]Allianza will probably be the best way to bring the money into the Country. But before you can utilize their services you will need to be fully vetted by them meaning providing tax returns and other information. Also, however you bring the money into the Country, if the transaction is not registered with the Colombian government which will involve an attorney or a Colombian tax accountant, if at a later date you sell the property, it will be a problem getting the money out of the Country. What you want to do for this sum of money is not as easy as it sounds as your finding out.

Good Luck!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2656598]You didn't say how long your coming to Medellin for, and it sounds like based on your previous mongering background that you are used to paying what would be considered lots of money for services which in Medellin will be at a fraction of the cost.

I know some guys might wince at this, but since it's your maiden voyage, and sounds like you have disposable income, you might just stay at the Mansion, or I guess it's called Casa Blanca in Poblado if your only going to be town for a short period of time, or at least for the first week. Lots of newbies stay there, utilize their services which aren't cheap, including the girls that frequent the place, but you can quickly get a taste of things and will be in Poblado, which seems like it will be a good fit for you versus other parts of town.

I'm not inferring that your not capable of managing a monger trip on your own with my recommendation, but Medellin in contrast to the Countries you mentioned is very different, and more diverse, meaning all kinds of venues that you might want to sample, and places you won't even want to get near.

Hopefully this helps.[/QUOTE]Yeah only in town a few days. All my adventures are on business trips and so I am generally in a town 3-5 days. The Mansion sounds intriguing and thanks for the tip that it's Casa Blanca. I can't find shit about it on the web tho. Surely there are some pics or a website or something somewhere?

P.S. Thanks to all for the tips both here and in I'm. You guys are great.

[QUOTE=Ricardo01;2655196] Regarding hotels, I moved between Leblon suites hotel and Estelar apartments Medellin. For both I recommend to book for two people then even though you bring different people they never charge the guests (at least in my experience). During my stay I hung out with a couple of ISG guys, and they were great guys and showed me great things. So, I recommend you try to make some friends here which if anyone is coming into Medellin or is here message me and we can meet up because I am in Medellin till the end of February.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the report Ricardo. I'm planning on visiting Medellin this year. How was the internet connection at Estelar and Leblon? The reason I ask is because I plan on working from Medellin when I visit.

I'm going to be back in Medellin at the end of February beginning of March. If anyone has some good Laureles airbnbs or buildings they'd recommend please PM me. I am looking for potential alternatives to San Peter, where I've stayed my previous two trips. I stayed on the 15th floor last time, which wasn't bad but don't see anything on the higher floors listed for my dates at San Peter. I stayed on the 4 rth floor once as well and don't want to repeat that. In terms of another building, I would love a slightly quieter place. I'd want a doorman and good security like SP. Also, a gas vs. Electric cooktop would be a plus (though not a must). Of course girl friendly goes without saying. I'm happy to trade some fb contacts / recs over pm or in person when I'm there in exchange for any info.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2656619]I hate to be the one to break this to you, but women who fuck foreigners for money are not 'normal girls.'[/QUOTE]You are projecting different values, I am assuming American values, onto a foreign culture. Maybe not normal to you. Normal for them. Normal for me.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2656436]Yes I RTTF. In fact I do daily. The Medellin thread is super active and as many of you may know I contribute regularly in other major threads where I have knowledge. Here's the rub. I hve no knowledge of Med. I like to read about it but it all just washes over me. Like some warm pussy juice.

So now here I am most likely coming to Med end of March and have questions as I start planning. So I would trul appreciate it if we could skip the RTTF comments and some generous members provide concise answers. (I am glad to provide any in return on US, Brazil, UK, Germany, Switzerland, Japan, China and Taiwan.

Often questions get asked with no context which is lame. So here is the context:

I prefer to stay at nice hotels in a part of the city that has a lot to do. Cafes. Restaurants and Bars. I am amazed to see a ton of hotels at $35 a night or something. I'm happy to pay to have a nice fit and finish. Maybe balcony and jacuzzi. I am always envious when you guys are showing all that. The buck goes far in Med. So where should I stay what part of city or preferably recommend hotels.

I have a huge list of Facebook girls and maybe I will just do the party in the room thing. But honestly I love the real world club pickup. For reference Scandallo is a fave. I also like Sharks in Germany where obviously it's a lot more commercial but a nice place to relax and chat up your fave girl. It needn't be super luxe like Scandallo but not dicey either. What are the places like this in Med or should I stick to Facebook girls.

Although I've been a ton of places as a Medellin virgin I might enjoy a wingman with similar tastes so feel free to HMU by message. Happy to generally cover drinks or other for my wing. Spanish speakers particularly welcome tho not necessary.

I'm sure I have other questions so def contact me if you are open to helping guide my virgin ass or wing with me.[/QUOTE]I haven't stayed at Haven hotel but from what I can tell it's highly recommended here. And it's right in the middle of parque lleras. They have rooms with jacuzzi also for about 120 usd, it's also chica friendly. I'll be going next week ended up booking 1 night at The Charlee Hotel and the rest at Haven.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2656643]... The Mansion sounds intriguing and thanks for the tip that it's Casa Blanca. I can't find shit about it on the web tho. Surely there are some pics or a website or something somewhere?

P.S. Thanks to all for the tips both here and in I'm. You guys are great.[/QUOTE]The thread is here. The web site is [URL]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2509207]Hotelmedellinplaza.[/QUOTE]It is a good suggestion but I don't think you will like the ambiance. The quality of the place does not match the price and you said you already have a large list of FB girls. You can just pay a fee to get into the bar to check out the girls. I think you want to check out Mechanic88's post below. There is a roof top bar Envy on top of Charlee that you can check out.

I want to reduce your expectation so you don't disappoint. To rate the overall facility, relatively speaking, Scandallo is like 5 star hotel, Cafe Foto / Lotus Club is 4 star. Gusto is 2. 5. But for bar only, I think it is pretty nice, on par with a downsized Cafe Foto, minus the stage.

[QUOTE=MedellinLove;2656602]I am purchasing at apartment and I wanted to know if anyone knew the best vendor to send 70 k usd. The online companies have limits.[/QUOTE]RiceRocket99 did that. You don't want to wire money before you talk to a lawyer or someone familiar with this. I think in order for you to get the money out of Colombia in the future, you need to follow certain procedure.

[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2656690]I haven't stayed at Haven hotel but from what I can tell it's highly recommended here. And it's right in the middle of parque lleras. They have rooms with jacuzzi also for about 120 usd, it's also chica friendly. I'll be going next week ended up booking 1 night at The Charlee Hotel and the rest at Haven.[/QUOTE]I don't recommend Haven. Yes its chica friendly the usual 1 chica per day rule as all hotels are but the staff gets a 1/2 out of 5 star service rating from me. Ask for towels good luck for them to bring it up. Manager the balding older guy is a rude douchebag and shady too. He gave me some BS reason for moving me floors that there is flooding in my room, but it was super dry. He just wanted to rent out my room at a higher price or it was just plain incompetence - either way inexcusable. So instead of complaining and getting some retaliation, I just switched hotels.

Anyways you've been warned.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2656436]Yes I RTTF. In fact I do daily. The Medellin thread is super active and as many of you may know I contribute regularly in other major threads where I have knowledge. Here's the rub. I hve no knowledge of Med. I like to read about it but it all just washes over me. Like some warm pussy juice.

So now here I am most likely coming to Med end of March and have questions as I start planning. So I would trul appreciate it if we could skip the RTTF comments and some generous members provide concise answers. (I am glad to provide any in return on US, Brazil, UK, Germany, Switzerland, Japan, China and Taiwan.

Often questions get asked with no context which is lame. So here is the context:

I prefer to stay at nice hotels in a part of the city that has a lot to do. Cafes. Restaurants and Bars. I am amazed to see a ton of hotels at $35 a night or something. I'm happy to pay to have a nice fit and finish. Maybe balcony and jacuzzi. I am always envious when you guys are showing all that. The buck goes far in Med. So where should I stay what part of city or preferably recommend hotels.

I have a huge list of Facebook girls and maybe I will just do the party in the room thing. But honestly I love the real world club pickup. For reference Scandallo is a fave. I also like Sharks in Germany where obviously it's a lot more commercial but a nice place to relax and chat up your fave girl. It needn't be super luxe like Scandallo but not dicey either. What are the places like this in Med or should I stick to Facebook girls.

Although I've been a ton of places as a Medellin virgin I might enjoy a wingman with similar tastes so feel free to HMU by message. Happy to generally cover drinks or other for my wing. Spanish speakers particularly welcome tho not necessary.

I'm sure I have other questions so def contact me if you are open to helping guide my virgin ass or wing with me.[/QUOTE]I have questions about Brazil as I will be going there in late spring to early summer. Planning on SP and Rio split trip. So here's my take. If you go to The Mansion just limit your stay. The girls aren't the hottest and its good for a newbie that doesn't speak good Spanish, but you can get so much more for your buck with Facebook girls and getting girls from Fase Dos and La Isla to see you off the clock.

Gusto is super overpriced but its not too hard to haggle down the price if you're negotiating skills are good. You can find some really hot Venezuelan girls around Lleras just don't pay their 300 k asking price haggle them down to 200 k at the most.

Some good casas worth visiting: Energy Massage in Laureles and New Life in Centro.

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2656711]I

Some good casas worth visiting: Energy Massage in Laureles and New Life in Centro.[/QUOTE]Is Energy kinda around the corner from the Exito at La 70 and San Juan? If no, please give general or specific location as you please and rates. Are the Venezuelan girls in Lleras there at any specific hour? Thanks in advance. Have never used a casa but Energy gets mentioned a lot and a pretty Venezuelan would be nice especially if they are open to negotiating. My Spanish is decent and I know some Venezuelan history etc so it may get very interesting.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2656717]Is Energy kinda around the corner from the Exito at La 70 and San Juan? If no, please give general or specific location as you please and rates. Are the Venezuelan girls in Lleras there at any specific hour? Thanks in advance. Have never used a casa but Energy gets mentioned a lot and a pretty Venezuelan would be nice especially if they are open to negotiating. My Spanish is decent and I know some Venezuelan history etc so it may get very interesting.[/QUOTE]Just google Spa Fantasias Energy Laureles. The girls around Lleras start coming out around 10 pm just do a few blocks around lleras. I only prefer the light skin flaca Venezuelans and they usually relent to 200 k around lleras after asking for $100 USD but ymmv.

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2656751]Just google Spa Fantasias Energy Laureles. The girls around Lleras start coming out around 10 pm just do a few blocks around lleras. I only prefer the light skin flaca Venezuelans and they usually relent to 200 k around lleras after asking for $100 USD but ymmv.[/QUOTE]Got it, thanks.

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2656710]I don't recommend Haven. Yes its chica friendly the usual 1 chica per day rule as all hotels are but the staff gets a 1/2 out of 5 star service rating from me. Ask for towels good luck for them to bring it up. Manager the balding older guy is a rude douchebag and shady too. He gave me some BS reason for moving me floors that there is flooding in my room, but it was super dry. He just wanted to rent out my room at a higher price or it was just plain incompetence - either way inexcusable. So instead of complaining and getting some retaliation, I just switched hotels.

Anyways you've been warned.[/QUOTE]Interesting. What other hotel in parque lleras would you recommend?

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2656717]Is Energy kinda around the corner from the Exito at La 70 and San Juan? If no, please give general or specific location as you please and rates. Are the Venezuelan girls in Lleras there at any specific hour? Thanks in advance. Have never used a casa but Energy gets mentioned a lot and a pretty Venezuelan would be nice especially if they are open to negotiating. My Spanish is decent and I know some Venezuelan history etc so it may get very interesting.[/QUOTE]Cra. 74 #101 # 49, Medellin. You could just google the address. I did and it took less than 1 minute.

I've been there and it is not very close to Exito at La 70 & San Juan. The price used to be 140 mil for 1 hour. Expect it might well be 150 mil for the hour now. Take a pencil and note pad (they absolutely will not let you take notes on your phone). They used to have about 20 girls working mid-afternoon and as they do the parade your head will spin if you try to remember the names and numbers of the girls.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2656643]Yeah only in town a few days. All my adventures are on business trips and so I am generally in a town 3-5 days. The Mansion sounds intriguing and thanks for the tip that it's Casa Blanca. I can't find shit about it on the web tho. Surely there are some pics or a website or something somewhere?

P.S. Thanks to all for the tips both here and in I'm. You guys are great.[/QUOTE]Google "Hotel M Medellin" and you will find it, or go directly to the website.

[URL]Http://hotelmedellinm.com[/URL]

You can search this thread for information about the "Mansion" or you can scroll down to the user blogs and find old information in the Casa Blanca Medellin thread.

On their website you can sign up for their newsletter, which will get you information about parties and special events. If you plan to stay there, you'll want to make a reservation soon. They are usually booked up.

There are 2 locations, about 3 blocks apart. The main 1, referred to as M1, or the Mansion has a bar and pool where girls looking for customers hang out. The other building, referred to as M2 or the Castillo, is 3 blocks up the hill. It has a pool, but no bar and no girls hanging out. I believe most of the rooms have been remodeled in the past 2-3 years. Before the furniture was rather dated.

The girls who you will find there are all approved by the management. You can bring outside girls in, as long as they haven't been blacklisted by the management. Ideally, it's best to stay in M1. It's closer to restaurants and malls and it's where you'll find the girls.

Most of the other guys staying there are repeat customers and can usually give you information. Unless things have changed, they have generic Viagra and Cialis along with some other medications, available at the front desk. Any outside girl you bring in will need to be registered at the desk.

Rooms are expensive for Medellin. 332 k for a hot tub room, but it might be worth it for the convenience.

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2656710]I don't recommend Haven. Yes its chica friendly the usual 1 chica per day rule as all hotels are but the staff gets a 1/2 out of 5 star service rating from me. Ask for towels good luck for them to bring it up. Manager the balding older guy is a rude douchebag and shady too. He gave me some BS reason for moving me floors that there is flooding in my room, but it was super dry. He just wanted to rent out my room at a higher price or it was just plain incompetence - either way inexcusable. So instead of complaining and getting some retaliation, I just switched hotels.

Anyways you've been warned.[/QUOTE]Excellent way to sum up this property junk, douchbag management and staff, tiny junk rooms, a friend (3rd or 4th) one just telling me about your same observation yesterday! Junk!

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2656751]Just google Spa Fantasias Energy Laureles. The girls around Lleras start coming out around 10 pm just do a few blocks around lleras. I only prefer the light skin flaca Venezuelans and they usually relent to 200 k around lleras after asking for $100 USD but ymmv.[/QUOTE]You can also go to the Medellin Map made by World Travel. It is searchable also.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4002-Medellin-Map-and-List&p=2656795[/URL]#post2656795.

My goodness, Parque Lleras really is the Gold Coast.

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2656751]Just google Spa Fantasias Energy Laureles. The girls around Lleras start coming out around 10 pm just do a few blocks around lleras. I only prefer the light skin flaca Venezuelans and they usually relent to 200 k around lleras after asking for $100 USD but ymmv.[/QUOTE]

It's normal here. I know what you meant. I'm not sure what guys who come and talk about "normal" and "semi" are imagining.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2656619]I hate to be the one to break this to you, but women who fuck foreigners for money are not 'normal girls.'[/QUOTE]

Do you have your visa sorted out or are you skipping that step?

[QUOTE=MedellinLove;2656602]I am purchasing at apartment and I wanted to know if anyone knew the best vendor to send 70 k usd. The online companies have limits.[/QUOTE]

All fotos new since my last foto post.

Street crowd is watching COL versus PER futbol.

Landscape is Ground Zero, in front of the Vera Cruz Church.

The most expensive meal on the cafeteria menu sign is $1.53 USD.

Chica holding $4 USD shirt regalo acted like it cost $50.

Keep On Keepin' On.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2656779]Cra. 74 #101 # 49, Medellin. You could just google the address. I did and it took less than 1 minute.

I've been there and it is not very close to Exito at La 70 & San Juan. The price used to be 140 mil for 1 hour. Expect it might well be 150 mil for the hour now. Take a pencil and note pad (they absolutely will not let you take notes on your phone). They used to have about 20 girls working mid-afternoon and as they do the parade your head will spin if you try to remember the names and numbers of the girls.[/QUOTE]If (as it seems) you're staying near La 70 and feel like a walk:

Go to the large sports complex on the other side of Estadio Metro plaza.

Walk straight through the complex, keeping to the right of the main football stadium, till you come out on Cra. 74.

Go right on Cra 74 past parking lot for tennis courts.

The Spa's on the other side of Cra 74, right across from the baseball field.

About 10 minute walk from the Metro; 15-20 minutes from Exito on La 70.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2656825]Do you have your visa sorted out or are you skipping that step?[/QUOTE]Doesn't sound like he's done his homework on this, or is just starting to figure it out.

There's been quite a bit of changes within the last couple of years regarding visa's and health insurance requirements, and he may just be buying a property and figuring to only be in Medellin six months a year on a tourist visa.

If this is the case, opening a bank account and getting utility and internet services without a Cedula will be challenging.

[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;2656992]If (as it seems) you're staying near La 70 and feel like a walk:

Go to the large sports complex on the other side of Estadio Metro plaza.

Walk straight through the complex, keeping to the right of the main football stadium, till you come out on Cra. 74.

Go right on Cra 74 past parking lot for tennis courts.

The Spa's on the other side of Cra 74, right across from the baseball field.

About 10 minute walk from the Metro; 15-20 minutes from Exito on La 70.[/QUOTE]I confused it with another that is close to the Exito and know where it is. Now. There's a gym close by and you get 3 free visits for anyone interested. At least it was that way 3 years ago. Some real model types in there keeping their bodies in tip top shape but they were as conceded as I've ever seen. By the way, if you would like to see some beauties go to the pool area at the Stadium. They have water aerobics and some doing laps. Thanks to all you guys who answered. !

This may have been discussed before but I thought I would share what I just found out from Apple Card. I asked whether or not they have any Foreign Transaction fees on Credit card purchases, not ATM, and was told that they have no foreign transaction fees. Seems like good news and the way to go if you want to charge something. Like liquor at the duty free. If anyone knows something different than this or has had first hand experience with Apple Card please advise. Just like other cards, I gave them my dates of travel.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2657065]This may have been discussed before but I thought I would share what I just found out from Apple Card. I asked whether or not they have any Foreign Transaction fees on Credit card purchases, not ATM, and was told that they have no foreign transaction fees. Just like other cards, I gave them my dates of travel.[/QUOTE]Capital One Venture has no forex fees, gives you 1. 5% back on everything, and you don't have to fucken tell them where you are going. Apple Card only gives you 1% on most purchases. Yeah, they have 3% from a few merchants and 2% if you use Apple Pay (but then you're stuck to Apple devices, which should be an illegal tying arrangement in the Yew Ess and an antitrust violation per the Sherman Act) and have to carry your expensive phone around. Maybe have both cards but Capital One is quite good and their dispute resolution process has been as well.

Agreed a stark contrast from tinder experience in the USA. The allure of being a foreign isn't quite what it was 20 yrs ago but in a relatively poor country with lots of young beautiful curious women with nothing to do its a gold mine especially the 22 and younger ID say. ID say if a girl is not a straight prepago or interesada and she is even slightly into you and you are paying for drinks restaurants travel etc and gives great sex and company a 400 k-500 k gift week of company is a win win situation.

[QUOTE=ElCapo;2656494]I'm in Medellin and Bogota monthly and I'm going to give my 2 cents. Meeting girls on Tinder is the way to go. Many will say that is a good way to get drugged. In many years of traveling there it has never happened to me. I stay in apartments that have a porter. You just have to be smart. But you can easily meet girls on there for 200,000 pesos or less per encounter. Some of them are just looking for a foreigner to take them on trips. Show them a good time. I met a beautiful 24 year old that spent an entire week with me in Cartagena. I gave her 500,000 pesos as a gift. It was a week of wonderful amazing sex. We even hooked up with a girl at the club and took her back to the hotel and had fun. I'm not much into Street action or the strip clubs. I like to meet normal girls. And tender has been an easy way to do that.[/QUOTE]

ID check out some of the offerings by liv realty they are known to be guest friendly. How I usually guarantee guess friendly is by getting an apt in laureles where the key is in a lockbox outside but sounds like you want the security. Never had an issue in 7 yrs I speak Spanish. They have some offerings in buildings message them and prices are reasonable.

[URL]https://www.livrealtymedellin.com/for-rent/?sortby=price-asc[/URL]

[QUOTE=Recondite;2656649]I'm going to be back in Medellin at the end of February beginning of March. If anyone has some good Laureles airbnbs or buildings they'd recommend please PM me. I am looking for potential alternatives to San Peter, where I've stayed my previous two trips. I stayed on the 15th floor last time, which wasn't bad but don't see anything on the higher floors listed for my dates at San Peter. I stayed on the 4 rth floor once as well and don't want to repeat that. In terms of another building, I would love a slightly quieter place. I'd want a doorman and good security like SP. Also, a gas vs. Electric cooktop would be a plus (though not a must). Of course girl friendly goes without saying. I'm happy to trade some fb contacts / recs over pm or in person when I'm there in exchange for any info.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2657008]I confused it with another that is close to the Exito and know where it is. Now. There's a gym close by and you get 3 free visits for anyone interested. At least it was that way 3 years ago. Some real model types in there keeping their bodies in tip top shape but they were as conceded as I've ever seen. By the way, if you would like to see some beauties go to the pool area at the Stadium. They have water aerobics and some doing laps. Thanks to all you guys who answered.[/QUOTE]Just walk around all the buildings on the east side of the stadium. You'll often find cheerleader squads practicing there. There's also quite a bit going on in the buildings. I've seen basketball, volleyball, gymnastics, karate and other competitions. There's also a smaller football stadium on the north side of the main stadium, where you can watch local games for free.

[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2656765]Interesting. What other hotel in parque lleras would you recommend?[/QUOTE]I've used Charlee Hotel which I really liked and Hotel Du Parc. Hotel Dix.

Since they all use the 1 girl per day rule, only metric left to use is customer service.

[QUOTE=MedellinLove;2656602]I am purchasing at apartment and I wanted to know if anyone knew the best vendor to send 70 k usd. The online companies have limits.[/QUOTE]ML, I would space it out among agencies. Remitly allows tier 3 members to send $60,000 over a 180 day period and $30,000 over a 30 day period and they have great exchange rates. So use them then Pangea, Western Uniion, Xoom ETC.

Other thing I would consider is going through Rickerocket99's comments and seeing how he set up a bank account in Colombia. Once you have an account, I think doing a bank transfer is a piece of cake. I think Bancocolombia is the easiest place for a foreigner to get a bank account.

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2656751]Just google Spa Fantasias Energy Laureles. The girls around Lleras start coming out around 10 pm just do a few blocks around lleras. I only prefer the light skin flaca Venezuelans and they usually relent to 200 k around lleras after asking for $100 USD but ymmv.[/QUOTE]Ok starting to get the lay of the land. Thanks.

I don't have to work during my 3 days in Medellin so I'm thinking brunch and midday fuck and evening at bars and night fuck. That's probably good for me. Three might be pushing it esp since going to Brazil next. So a few questions.

I will prob stay in Poblado. In SP there are CLnicas for day activity. Is that the idea with places like Spa Fantasias Energy Laureles?

And evenings obv I could Las Isl or the like with proper caveat emptor or bring Facebook girls to my room more likely. I'the really like to perhaps find a wingman to hit the bars and chat up girls but eventually bring back for the night I think. Any and all advice welcome.

Oh and since MDE is so cheap I will prob want to take two girls a few times. When I hear the “one girl” hotel rule what does that mean? Can I pay extra for the third girl? Or just book a three person room ? Or is it seriously one girl limit?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2657189]Ok starting to get the lay of the land. Thanks.

I don't have to work during my 3 days in Medellin so I'm thinking brunch and midday fuck and evening at bars and night fuck. That's probably good for me. Three might be pushing it esp since going to Brazil next. So a few questions.

I will prob stay in Poblado. In SP there are CLnicas for day activity. Is that the idea with places like Spa Fantasias Energy Laureles?

And evenings obv I could Las Isl or the like with proper caveat emptor or bring Facebook girls to my room more likely. I'the really like to perhaps find a wingman to hit the bars and chat up girls but eventually bring back for the night I think. Any and all advice welcome.

Oh and since MDE is so cheap I will prob want to take two girls a few times. When I hear the one girl hotel rule what does that mean? Can I pay extra for the third girl? Or just book a three person room ? Or is it seriously one girl limit?[/QUOTE]First girl is free no charge. After that the hotel will charge around 50 k to 90 k each additional. Energy Spa is about a 15-20 minute ride from Poblado so just plan for that during the day.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2657189]Ok starting to get the lay of the land. Thanks.

I don't have to work during my 3 days in Medellin so I'm thinking brunch and midday fuck and evening at bars and night fuck. That's probably good for me. Three might be pushing it esp since going to Brazil next. So a few questions.

I will prob stay in Poblado. In SP there are CLnicas for day activity. Is that the idea with places like Spa Fantasias Energy Laureles?

And evenings obv I could Las Isl or the like with proper caveat emptor or bring Facebook girls to my room more likely. I'the really like to perhaps find a wingman to hit the bars and chat up girls but eventually bring back for the night I think. Any and all advice welcome.[/QUOTE]Yes Energy spa and most of the casas are open daytime until 7 or 8 pm. They are hit or miss.

It depends on the girl, but most Facebook girls will be happy to meet for brunch or to go out clubbing. Just clarify your plans with the girls. In my experience, most will be happy to go out drinking and dancing and then spend a few hours in the room with you, without extra charges.

Having 2 girls at once in Medellin can be disappointing. Many of them will treat it like a tag team wrestling match. One will be sitting out of reach, on her phone while the other services you. Then they will switch. Be specific with what you expect before agreeing to anything.

For threesomes I have usually used Motel Ibiza. Adding the extra person and a few items from the mini bar, it will cost about 120 k for 6 hours. There's a jacuzzi big enough for 3, a sex chair, a stripper pole, a nice stereo, sound system, a couch, an awesome shower and a well stocked mini bar. There's also a full restaurant and sex shop available. You can order steak with furry handcuffs and a double dildo for the girls.

There are advantages to using a nice love motel. You don't have to worry about the stuff in your room. You don't have to worry about noise complaints. Plus, I'd you have already had a girl in your room, it costs about the same.

Along with the exchange rate. Gas is 2 mil COP more per liter but I don't buy it. My chicas are telling me across the board rent is up 150 mil COP per month, from a baseline of around 500 +/- 100 mil COP. Oil was 8 now 12. Servicios (utilities) average went up from 130 to 153 per month. All in the past couple of months. The bus ride from the airport used to be 10 mil COP now it's 13. I am here to tell you the bottom baseline at Ground Zero has gone up from 30 to 40 mil COP. Other opinions welcome and wanted. I am not sure what is going on.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2657189]Ok starting to get the lay of the land. Thanks.

I don't have to work during my 3 days in Medellin so I'm thinking brunch and midday fuck and evening at bars and night fuck. That's probably good for me. Three might be pushing it esp since going to Brazil next. So a few questions.

I will prob stay in Poblado. In SP there are CLnicas for day activity. Is that the idea with places like Spa Fantasias Energy Laureles?

And evenings obv I could Las Isl or the like with proper caveat emptor or bring Facebook girls to my room more likely. I'the really like to perhaps find a wingman to hit the bars and chat up girls but eventually bring back for the night I think. Any and all advice welcome.

Oh and since MDE is so cheap I will prob want to take two girls a few times. When I hear the one girl hotel rule what does that mean? Can I pay extra for the third girl? Or just book a three person room ? Or is it seriously one girl limit?[/QUOTE]The facebook chicas love to visit Poblado early to mid-afternoon and be on their way home before the heavy evening traffic. There are massage parlors in Poblado but no brothels afaik. You will need to take an Uber or taxi to Laureles or el cento for that as far as I know. Cheap and easy depending on traffic. Just FYI if you are a flaca hunter like many of us it's hard to find them at Energy anymore or other casas in el centro. If you like regular or curvy chicas you will have no problem finding them. I haven't kept up with all the posts Steve but you should definitely make an afternoon run up to Loutron just to check that box. Again you will have no problem finding a good target unless you are a flaca hunter.

The FB chicas also like visiting 9 o 10 PM when it's easy to get back and forth from their homes to / from Poblado.

The latest weird, wonderful and wacky thing that has worked its way into my journey is the Web cam model Caribe. She works nights and gets off at six AM. She is a sex machine. For the last five days or so, she writes me near the end of her shift and tells me she has "an orgasm that needs to come out. " She's not kidding. Unlike half my girls who I can't even be sure if they had a climax, Caribe moans, convulses, I don't know what to call the sounds that come out of her mouth, and then collapses for a couple of minutes. I think she gets turned on at work from all the edging and then comes over to see me to finish the dirty deed. Very powerful and a total turn on. She doesn't want money for sex and calls me her boyfriend. She mentioned bills or rent to pay a couple of times and I gave her a "regalo" the other morning of 100 mil COP.

Starting my fucking, sucking and licking the past few days at 7 AM instead of early afternoon is taking a toll. I woke up tonight with Spanish Teacher next to me in bed and she said (in English), "You have been sleeping for an hour and 45 minutes". Hmmm. She didn't charge me any extra for the time and like I mentioned before, Spanish Teacher is also a good pupil, and my best blowjob girl keeps getting better. Ostee Out.

For me if a girl says "no kissing" it's an instant turn down. I don't care how hot she is. Just turned down a smoke show at gustos. It's was 200 $ (ik ik, I don't really care about the money). I was willing to pay. I asked her if kissing she said no. I said alright thanks, I had bought her a drink at that point and was grinding on her. She started back peddling, it was about 2:45 am (they close at 4 am). I know from experience once a girl says no kissing even if you pay extra or convince them, it s a half-assed attempt and they'll do it for 1 minute then turn away. I need to kiss while I'm pumping in mish, that's the only way I finish. I want to know what your "nope" is?

[QUOTE=Alaska1986;2657147]Agreed a stark contrast from tinder experience in the USA. The allure of being a foreign isn't quite what it was 20 yrs ago but in a relatively poor country with lots of young beautiful curious women with nothing to do its a gold mine especially the 22 and younger ID say. ID say if a girl is not a straight prepago or interesada and she is even slightly into you and you are paying for drinks restaurants travel etc and gives great sex and company a 400 k-500 k gift week of company is a win win situation.[/QUOTE]I should be so lucky.

Just a quick post, just left Medellin after five months and want to say the casa prices are holding steady to what's on the list. I stayed pretty much to the El Centro area and things are running pretty much the way they always have though everyone seems to be sick at the moment and since before Christmas. Combo of Flu, Gripe and Omnicrom seem to be going around. Haven't heard of anyone getting really sick and of course the girls are not taking time off if they are sick so be prepared to probably pick up something. Stiff dicks have no conscious so all the guy's I knew there including myself had a about of something. Now in Mx. And missing my daily casa runs. Now in Puerto Vallarta and all the older Gringas are rather nauseating. Anyone have any tips for over in this part of Mx. Would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2657277]The facebook chicas love to visit Poblado early to mid-afternoon and be on their way home before the heavy evening traffic. There are massage parlors in Poblado but no brothels afaik. You will need to take an Uber or taxi to Laureles or el cento for that as far as I know. Cheap and easy depending on traffic. Just FYI if you are a flaca hunter like many of us it's hard to find them at Energy anymore or other casas in el centro. If you like regular or curvy chicas you will have no problem finding them. I haven't kept up with all the posts Steve but you should definitely make an afternoon run up to Loutron just to check that box. Again you will have no problem finding a good target unless you are a flaca hunter.

The FB chicas also like visiting 9 o 10 PM when it's easy to get back and forth from their homes to / from Poblado.[/QUOTE]Thanks man. This is great info. I am completely a FACE and tits man so I can work with a wide variety of body types and can even do a fatty when required tho surely not required and therefore not happening in Colombia. I def don't like the silly cones but can tolerate a well done one where they had something to start with and the girly stuff is on top.

Anyhow I do not think I will have a problem finding a ton of girls I like as I am a face guy and my face aesthetic skews towards latinas to begin with! Only problem is deciding. I like that problem! Target rich!

That doesn't seem fair. Some of those hotel rooms cost 300,000 pesos or more.

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2657209]First girl is free no charge. After that the hotel will charge around 50 k to 90 k each additional. Energy Spa is about a 15-20 minute ride from Poblado so just plan for that during the day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2657187]ML, I would space it out among agencies. Remitly allows tier 3 members to send $60,000 over a 180 day period and $30,000 over a 30 day period and they have great exchange rates. So use them then Pangea, Western Uniion, Xoom ETC.

Other thing I would consider is going through Rickerocket99's comments and seeing how he set up a bank account in Colombia. Once you have an account, I think doing a bank transfer is a piece of cake. I think Bancocolombia is the easiest place for a foreigner to get a bank account.[/QUOTE]Just a couple of notes here, for a guy bringing in a bit of money, like 70 K, he would be better pressed to set up an account with Alianza and bring the monies into the Country, because the exchange rate will be much more favorable than the other providers you mentioned.

As far as it being easy to transfer funds from a USA bank to a Colombian bank, the limits are quite low, I know that at Wells Fargo, you just can't walk in and automatically deposit a sum of like $ 70 k directly into a Bancolombia account, and for anyone bringing this amount of money in, it should be recorded / reported as required in Colombia, or when a guy wants to pull the money out of the Country, it may be a problem getting it out with out back-up information, proof, of money being brought into the Country.

What do you think of the way they enclosed the park with this black fencing? Do you think it makes the park more or less safe?

I can see it both ways, more safe from improved crowd control flow. Less safe because you are more trapped. What do you think? See photo.

Purrfekt weather today, warm, mostly sunny. My friends back in the states are buried in snow.

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2657166]I've used Charlee Hotel which I really liked and Hotel Du Parc. Hotel Dix.

Since they all use the 1 girl per day rule, only metric left to use is customer service.[/QUOTE]Would I be able to pay extra and take a third?

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2657407]What do you think of the way they enclosed the park with this black fencing? Do you think it makes the park more or less safe?

I can see it both ways, more safe from improved crowd control flow. Less safe because you are more trapped. What do you think? See photo.

Purrfekt weather today, warm, mostly sunny. My friends back in the states are buried in snow.[/QUOTE]Would rather have the police or public forces around perimeter. Fencing makes it a trap.

Snow and cold all over the USA. Must be tough in perfect weather. But looks like you make the best of such a tough situation. Sunny and warm with lots of women can't be easy. Ill come down and help soon.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2657274] I am here to tell you the bottom baseline at Ground Zero has gone up from 30 to 40 mil COP. Other opinions welcome and wanted. I am not sure what is going on.[/QUOTE]The pricing is a moving target, more so for the foreigners, versus the locals.

Lot's of the locals approach the girls, and just tell them what they are willing to pay, and the locals are typically quoting less than 30 mil COP.

A local will walk up to a girl, talk a bit, and then if he walks away, it's been a failed negotiation, meaning the girl didn't accept the offer.

We both know how variable things can be there, especially depending on how badly the girl needs the money when approached.

[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2657428]Would I be able to pay extra and take a third?[/QUOTE]From what I gather if you book a double then one girl is fine. The Charlee charges 145 K for another girl, which seems quite high but it is a 4. 5 ish five star and they usually are high on everything. They address this in their FAQ. It's a frequently asked question. LOL.

I just read a post from a guy who has been in Colombia maybe Medellin for past 5 months. He said lots of gripe or omicron etc but mostly mild cases and all his buddies have gotten sick sooner or later since the girls work no matter if sick or not. My contacts there, all Paisas, say everything is good come down. So what really gives and are most restaurants open, especially in Laureles? Any other advice about situation is welcomed but no political or philosophical rants, just the facts ma'am. Thanks!

How much the facebook girls charges in Medellin.

What is approx allowances for SA girls.

[QUOTE=Aksmn;2657452]How much the facebook girls charges in Medellin.

What is approx allowances for SA girls.[/QUOTE]Whatever they ask for. Read the forum and you'll find out the range.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2657401]That doesn't seem fair. Some of those hotel rooms cost 300,000 pesos or more.[/QUOTE]It doesn't seem fair? That's hilarious.

It's nothing to do with what it costs them. It is all about the fact that they want to discourage that kind of business. Many, if not most, have big signs and posters about stopping sex tourism. So I guess the compromise is that they will look the other way for a fee.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2657447]From what I gather if you book a double then one girl is fine. The Charlee charges 145 K for another girl, which seems quite high but it is a 4. 5 ish five star and they usually are high on everything. They address this in their FAQ. It's a frequently asked question. LOL.[/QUOTE]Your SA girl would be on cloud 9 at the Charlee. She may fancy her chances of going to Cancun with you.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2657441]...Snow and cold all over the USA. Must be tough in perfect weather. But looks like you make the best of such a tough situation. Sunny and warm with lots of women can't be easy. Ill come down and help soon.[/QUOTE]I live in California and we've been enjoying Spring weather here practically throughout this month.

[QUOTE=MateoCast98;2657305]...I know from experience once a girl says no kissing even if you pay extra or convince them, it s a half-assed attempt and they'll do it for 1 minute then turn away. I need to kiss while I'm pumping in mish, that's the only way I finish. I want to know what your "nope" is?[/QUOTE]Yes, it's been my experience too. Once she says no kissing and then changes her mind, you are likely to get chitty kissing for a few seconds. Better to look For another girl.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2657451]I just read a post from a guy who has been in Colombia maybe Medellin for past 5 months. He said lots of gripe or omicron etc but mostly mild cases and all his buddies have gotten sick sooner or later since the girls work no matter if sick or not. My contacts there, all Paisas, say everything is good come down. So what really gives and are most restaurants open, especially in Laureles? Any other advice about situation is welcomed but no political or philosophical rants, just the facts ma'am. Thanks![/QUOTE]I'm big into facts. So, one place to see for yourself what is happening is Worldometer. Scroll down the Colombia which will be #13 on the list and click on the country info.

Here is what I recall seeing. For several months (mid August to mid December) new cases were running between 1,000 and 3,000 per day. Right around the last week of December new cases started rising precipitously.

Daily cases were spiking at or above 30,000 per day but are tailing off now and we're seeing daily cases under 20,000 the last few days. Deaths were running at about 40 per day but after the climb in cases, deaths have been running between 200 and 300 per day. You can put this all in perspective. Colombia has a population of about 52 million.

Colombia is not a very conspiracy theory kind of place. The 1 or more vaccination count is at 79% and the fully vaccinated number is 62% (as of Jan. 27th).

Almost all restaurants are open in Laureles. At this time there are no odd and even day restrictions like there were 6 or 7 months ago. My only suggestion is follow the laws in Colombia.

I think the entry requirements have been discussed many times. In a nutshell have your vaccinations before coming and be prepared to show your vaccination card (and a negative test if your 2nd vaccination is less than some number of days old).

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2657451]I just read a post from a guy who has been in Colombia maybe Medellin for past 5 months. He said lots of gripe or omicron etc but mostly mild cases and all his buddies have gotten sick sooner or later since the girls work no matter if sick or not. My contacts there, all Paisas, say everything is good come down. So what really gives and are most restaurants open, especially in Laureles? Any other advice about situation is welcomed but no political or philosophical rants, just the facts ma'am. Thanks![/QUOTE]Take away the masks and right now you wouldn't even know there was a Covid, except that a lot of people seem to have a cold, which I believe to be Covid variant that does not test positive. Whut, whut? Oh sorry, you said just the facts. I tried.

[QUOTE=MateoCast98;2657305]For me if a girl says "no kissing" it's an instant turn down. I don't care how hot she is. Just turned down a smoke show at gustos. It's was 200 $ (ik ik, I don't really care about the money). I was willing to pay. I asked her if kissing she said no. I said alright thanks, I had bought her a drink at that point and was grinding on her. She started back peddling, it was about 2:45 am (they close at 4 am). I know from experience once a girl says no kissing even if you pay extra or convince them, it s a half-assed attempt and they'll do it for 1 minute then turn away. I need to kiss while I'm pumping in mish, that's the only way I finish. I want to know what your "nope" is?[/QUOTE]I kissed right on the spot 95% of the time in the club after kissing is agreed to. If I get a half-ass kiss, I don't take her. In rare occasions, a girl will give me a reasonable excuse why they don't do it on the spot and I will accept that if I really like her, they do deliver as agreed in the room.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2657518]I kissed right on the spot 95% of the time in the club after kissing is agreed to. If I get a half-ass kiss, I don't take her. In rare occasions, a girl will give me a reasonable excuse why they don't do it on the spot and I will accept that if I really like her, they do deliver as agreed in the room.[/QUOTE]Doh. So in Med I need to negotiate kissing? I've never done that in Brazil. I always just go to the room only having negotiate price. I've gotten a CBJ once which was a total surprise. But always kissing. Always. And of 10 girls I saw my last visit in SP 7 did CIM and 5 swallowed. No discussion. Just organic. I guess that's one reason I love Brasil. So In Med I need to specify services ahead?

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2657451]I just read a post from a guy who has been in Colombia maybe Medellin for past 5 months. He said lots of gripe or omicron etc but mostly mild cases and all his buddies have gotten sick sooner or later since the girls work no matter if sick or not. My contacts there, all Paisas, say everything is good come down. So what really gives and are most restaurants open, especially in Laureles? Any other advice about situation is welcomed but no political or philosophical rants, just the facts ma'am. Thanks![/QUOTE]What you heard from the other poster is accurate, at least in Medellin.

Everything in Medellin is wide open all across town as though there was no Pandemic, no restrictions, except lots of eating places will want to see your vax card, and everyone is required to wear a mask outside and in all indoor venues.

And of course all your contacts are telling you everything is good and to come down, things are good, and of course things will be even better for them if they get to session with you.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2657522]Doh. So in Med I need to negotiate kissing? I've never done that in Brazil. I always just go to the room only having negotiate price. ...[/QUOTE]That is why Brazil is great in this aspect.

I think it is a YMMV situation, for me places like Energy, Loutron, or casas that are popular with foreigners, my experience is probably no kissing or no BBBJ if it is not agreed to before. FB girls are GFE by default. You probably will need to check at La Isla too unless you are already kissing. I had met one that just stood up and walked away at the mention of kissing alone. LOL.

Piece of advice coming from my experience in recently buying an apartment 6 months ago.

-Hire a reputable and bilingual lawyer that has experience dealing with foreigner real estate investment.

-Open a Colombian investment account, not a regular bank account, go with Alianza or Acciones / Valores. They have US-based bank affiliates, so you can make transfer directly from your US bank to their US bank. They will convert the money to Colombian currency once you are ready to buy. Their exchange rates are fair and reasonable. You can open an account with them with just a passport and they have bilingual service. You must register the transfer funds with the Colombian government / central bank (Banco de la Republica), I think within 24 hours of the wire transfer for the exact amount of the apartment purchase price. If you don't, you will not be able to get the money out of Colombia if you end up selling the apartment later on. You can also be taxed / fined for not registering the funds as well.

-You can open a regular Colombian bank account (Bancolombia) with just a passport and proof of apartment purchase / ownership. Go to the branch inside Santa Fe mall since they have experience dealing with foreigners. The only thing I couldn't open on my own without a Colombian cedula or cedula de extranjera was Internet service. I had to use name and cedula of one amiga for that. Kinda sucks, but oh well.

On a side note, I'm back in the good ol' USA. But not for long, returning to MDE in 3 weeks and will spend more time in the barrios. Last trip, I reconnected with SA girl I've known for a few years who lives in Barrio Popular, way up in the hills and far from gringo civilization hehe. She's the only paisa I know that can speak fluent English and Chinese (Mandarin). She's trying to climb up the Colombian economic ladder, and has travelled to Europe for work. For being 22 yrs old, not too shabby. I've visited her barrio both day and night. Being a chino, I def stood out and people were looking at me like is this chino lost, someone take his ass back to Poblado hehe. The people were friendly and even had groups of kids running up to me like I'm Bruce Lee incarnate. Told them my uncle is Jackie Chan haha.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2657187]ML, I would space it out among agencies. Remitly allows tier 3 members to send $60,000 over a 180 day period and $30,000 over a 30 day period and they have great exchange rates. So use them then Pangea, Western Uniion, Xoom ETC.

Other thing I would consider is going through Rickerocket99's comments and seeing how he set up a bank account in Colombia. Once you have an account, I think doing a bank transfer is a piece of cake. I think Bancocolombia is the easiest place for a foreigner to get a bank account.[/QUOTE]

Valuable info, thanks for share.

[QUOTE=Ricardo01;2655196]I'm not much of a poster, but the information here really helped me, so I want to give out the info that I have accumulated this past month. First off, I came on the first of January and just took a taxi because I was tired as shit and paid 90 k. I didn't speak more than 5 words in Spanish, so I recommend a few apps preloaded. 1. is sayhi by amazon which I enjoyed when talking to the girls but required internet and 2. Is of course google translate when you got no internet and need to say shit at a snail's pace. Regarding hotels, I moved between Leblon suites hotel and Estelar apartments Medellin. For both I recommend to book for two people then even though you bring different people they never charge the guests (at least in my experience). During my stay I hung out with a couple of ISG guys, and they were great guys and showed me great things. So, I recommend you try to make some friends here which if anyone is coming into Medellin or is here message me and we can meet up because I am in Medellin till the end of February.

The internet Chicas:

In my experience Medellin is a place that can make any man happy, you just have to know what you like. Me as the ISG boys would say am a sentimental * and so I came in with my shit ready. I added up a lot of Facebook girls' weeks before coming as well as started tinder Platinum for that non pro experience. Facebook girls is once again based on what you want. I like to make an hour session into a 3 hour or an overnight stay. So, I try to go with girls who seem less pro and always smoked weed with them to get them to relax, not to mention the better sex. Tinder girls on the other hand is an interesting game to play which I enjoyed because I am too much of a * to talk to girl in real life with just a translator. I am 30 so I think that helped me with getting matches as well as the premium. I was honest with them about my language skills but told them half-truths of what I was looking for..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2657531]That is why Brazil is great in this aspect.

I think it is a YMMV situation, for me places like Energy, Loutron, or casas that are popular with foreigners, my experience is probably no kissing or no BBBJ if it is not agreed to before. FB girls are GFE by default. You probably will need to check at La Isla too unless you are already kissing. I had met one that just stood up and walked away at the mention of kissing alone. LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm in Medellin right now! I fuck only Facebook Girls! And they're all great till now! They kiss me like their own boyfriend and they even accept bareback with me! For bareback they ask extra but it's not a problem for me!

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2657451]I just read a post from a guy who has been in Colombia maybe Medellin for past 5 months. He said lots of gripe or omicron etc but mostly mild cases and all his buddies have gotten sick sooner or later since the girls work no matter if sick or not. My contacts there, all Paisas, say everything is good come down. So what really gives and are most restaurants open, especially in Laureles? Any other advice about situation is welcomed but no political or philosophical rants, just the facts ma'am. Thanks![/QUOTE]1) Everywhere is open, though a few places closed down during the pandemic and never reopened.

2) In the streets 50% wear masks over nose and mouth, 40% under chin, maybe 10% no mask.

3) In shops, shopping centres, transport etc 100% masks.

4) in clubs bars restaurants no masks.

5) I've noticed a fair number of people going about their daily lives with mild coughs etc, and most people seek relaxed about this. I am not sure to what extent people are just relaxed about omicron and to what extent they don't realize these are omicron symptoms. I've asked a few people and the got both replies.

6) Some places ask for vaccination certificates, some don't. Not a lot of rhyme or reason to which do from what I can see.

I'd head down. You can do pretty well everything you could before the pandemic, lots of people out having fun, both normal and mongering.

I am trying to build a network of girls on Facebook. Would appreciate if someone can give one or two links to add. I have tried searching but they are not really good.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2657470]Whatever they ask for. Read the forum and you'll find out the range.[/QUOTE]I had one girl tell me she gets 300-400 USD for videollamada. I am sure you can imagine how the conversation went when I mentioned yo siempre pago 200 l mil pesos why mas por taxi por unos horas etc. Those are the ones who are being spoiled by s1 mps because I actually do believe someone is paying those prices to see a moderately attractive woman naked on cam. I've been on cam sites and see what guys are paying these below average looking girls. It seems they are super entitled on SA though. Had one tell me respete and immediately block me because I called her mami. You will probably pay more than what you pay facebook chicas on SA. Guess I'll have to RTFF because this is new territory for me. Good thing I have a month to do so. Anyone want to make my life a lttle easier can hit my DMs. I haven't really gotten around to quoting any prices with the majority of the ones I am speaking to on SA. I am focusing on just trying to play the lets get a cup of coffee and get to know each other route. I am sure when it comes time to actually make these appointments they will start to be a little more specific on what they want. Some do come out right away and state they are looking for x. Most just say friends with mutual benefits and leave it at that. I am juggling so many that I haven't really gotten into details with most I am speaking to.

Depends on your negotiating skills and the girls need.

Generally you can get them to stay with you for "un rato" meaning as long as she wants to stay typically 2-4 hrs etc for 250 k, all night is typically 400 k. You can take them out to dinner or do what you want just negotiate it all up front kissing, leches etc. Prices can go down or up from there depending on the girl. The seasoned ones, or the ones that do work in panama will likely charge more but there are way too many fish in the sea to be paying more. There is also tinder and Colombian cupid with a similar but different stock of prepagos.

[QUOTE=Aksmn;2657452]How much the facebook girls charges in Medellin.

What is approx allowances for SA girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2657522]Doh. So in Med I need to negotiate kissing? I've never done that in Brazil. I always just go to the room only having negotiate price. I've gotten a CBJ once which was a total surprise. But always kissing. Always. And of 10 girls I saw my last visit in SP 7 did CIM and 5 swallowed. No discussion. Just organic. I guess that's one reason I love Brasil. So In Med I need to specify services ahead?[/QUOTE]Medellin is several thousand miles from Sao Paulo. Why would you think what is customary in Brazil is the same in Colombia? Don't expect kissing in La Isla or any other casas or brothels or el centro bars. You might get kissing with Facebook chicas. Best to ask (or tell) before making the deal of time / money.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2657503]I'm big into facts. So, one place to see for yourself what is happening is Worldometer. Scroll down the Colombia which will be #13 on the list and click on the country info.

Here is what I recall seeing. For several months (mid August to mid December) new cases were running between 1,000 and 3,000 per day. Right around the last week of December new cases started rising precipitously.

Daily cases were spiking at or above 30,000 per day but are tailing off now and we're seeing daily cases under 20,000 the last few days. Deaths were running at about 40 per day but after the climb in cases, deaths have been running between 200 and 300 per day. You can put this all in perspective. Colombia has a population of about 52 million.

Colombia is not a very conspiracy theory kind of place. The 1 or more vaccination count is at 79% and the fully vaccinated number is 62% (as of Jan. 27th).

Almost all restaurants are open in Laureles. At this time there are no odd and even day restrictions like there were 6 or 7 months ago. My only suggestion is follow the laws in Colombia.

I think the entry requirements have been discussed many times. In a nutshell have your vaccinations before coming and be prepared to show your vaccination card (and a negative test if your 2nd vaccination is less than some number of days old).[/QUOTE]I like facts too: [URL]https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/biweekly-covid-cases-per-million-people[/URL].

[QUOTE=Aksmn;2657452]How much the facebook girls charges in Medellin.

What is approx allowances for SA girls.[/QUOTE]Don't ask the SA or FB chicas how much they charge. Tell them what you pay. Don't pay more than 200 mil y 50 mil taxi unless you request bareback.

Sunday, everyone deserves a day off. Tell that to mi polla. Did some last minute scrounging. Pumpkin is turning out to be a real gem and she may end up with a ranked number in my Top Ten although so far she has told me she doesn't want one. For those of you who follow, she was a random 30 mil COP random Ground Zero Vennie find. Hawt as fuk. The first two times we balled in Love Motels off of Vera Cruz Church I let her Trans BFF tag along as a confidence builder. They had been best friends since the age of five. She lives equi-walking-distance from where I am staying at The Nutti and Ground Zero. I call it the Purrfekt Triangle. I called her today, Sunday and she was knocking on my door in 20 minutes. She's got one small kid. Mom lives with her, too. Cesarean section scar so the outlet tract has never been stretched but these Vennies snap back like no chicas I have seen anywhere else in the world. Always a pleasure with Pumpkin. A very satisfying 2 hour session. I let her talk me up from 80 to 90 mil COP. No Taxi, she walks. No Tip, feels like I did something little extra nice for her but for the life of me I can't remember what it was. Drogadas, plus it doesn't matter. Synergy.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2657644]Medellin is several thousand miles from Sao Paulo. Why would you think what is customary in Brazil is the same in Colombia? Don't expect kissing in La Isla or any other casas or brothels or el centro bars. You might get kissing with Facebook chicas. Best to ask (or tell) before making the deal of time / money.

I like facts too: [URL]https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/biweekly-covid-cases-per-million-people[/URL].

Don't ask the SA or FB chicas how much they charge. Tell them what you pay. Don't pay more than 200 mil y 50 mil taxi unless you request bareback.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clearing some of the doubts about Medellin. It will certainly be useful. For me also Kissing is very important. Hence, I should always ask and make sure whether I am going to get it or not.

[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2657428]Would I be able to pay extra and take a third?[/QUOTE]That would depend on the hotel, or apartment security.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2657451]I just read a post from a guy who has been in Colombia maybe Medellin for past 5 months. He said lots of gripe or omicron etc but mostly mild cases and all his buddies have gotten sick sooner or later since the girls work no matter if sick or not. My contacts there, all Paisas, say everything is good come down. So what really gives and are most restaurants open, especially in Laureles? Any other advice about situation is welcomed but no political or philosophical rants, just the facts ma'am. Thanks![/QUOTE]Quite a few of the girls I regularly talk to have been sick recently, only mild illness, out of commission for a few days.

Restaurants should mostly be open in Laureles, along with bars and stores. The only potential problem which could crop up is if the hospitals exceed capacity. I saw a recent article saying ICU beds in Medellin were 96% full and hospital beds were 85% full. Curfews, quarantines and lockdowns are determined by hospital available beds. However, case numbers have been dropping, so it's probably nothing to worry about.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2657522]Doh. So in Med I need to negotiate kissing? I've never done that in Brazil. I always just go to the room only having negotiate price. I've gotten a CBJ once which was a total surprise. But always kissing. Always. And of 10 girls I saw my last visit in SP 7 did CIM and 5 swallowed. No discussion. Just organic. I guess that's one reason I love Brasil. So In Med I need to specify services ahead?[/QUOTE]Not necessarily. With Facebook girls kissing is almost always part of the package, at least in my experience. BBBJ has also been the standard for me. A few girls will get in position and ask if I want the condom. I always tell them it's not important, and most go with the BBBJ.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2657644]Why would you think what is customary in Brazil is the same in Colombia?[/QUOTE]Somebody who should know told me Facebook is the dominant mongering social media in Medellin, and Tinder dominates in Bogota. I wouldn't know but if true, it's a good example.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2657644]Medellin is several thousand miles from Sao Paulo. Why would you think what is customary in Brazil is the same in Colombia? Don't expect kissing in La Isla or any other casas or brothels or el centro bars. You might get kissing with Facebook chicas. Best to ask (or tell) before making the deal of time / money.[/QUOTE]Lucky Nuts, In your response to Steve9696 you've inadvertently drifted into YMMV territory. Admittedly an exception, but just a week ago I received enthusiastic GFE from a chica at Fase II (including DFK and BBBJ without an upcharge or offering a propina (tip). True, night club ladies frequently decline kissing or mamada natural, but, that said, I've negotiated these extras on a numbr of occasions at Luna Lunera, San Diego, and Conejitos by simply offering a good tip for GFE service (and the possibility of follow-up visits at my apartment). In the casas I've almost always been able to get agreement to DFK / BBBJ up front, sometimes for nothing extra; more often for an upcharge or a propina. Eros Spa (Carrera 81 a # 34 a-15, Apt 301) actually has a list of up-charges (including BBBJ and anal) posted on the wall. Per my previous posts, at the casas I've always been able to interview my chica of choice to confirm full GFE service before agreeing to take her to bed.

No doubt other BMs have had comparable experience in securing kissing and blow jobs au natural at the local chica hunting grounds.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2657531]That is why Brazil is great in this aspect.

I think it is a YMMV situation, for me places like Energy, Loutron, or casas that are popular with foreigners, my experience is probably no kissing or no BBBJ if it is not agreed to before. FB girls are GFE by default. You probably will need to check at La Isla too unless you are already kissing. I had met one that just stood up and walked away at the mention of kissing alone. LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Hey Nounce can you clear your inbox? I'the like to chat a bit since you have done both Brasil and Medellin.

I notice new openings in the fence every couple of weeks or so. There is still enough of a fence left to control the flow of the crowds but it is no longer as intact as it once was. I think you will see it gradually continue to go away.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2657441]Would rather have the police or public forces around perimeter. Fencing makes it a trap.

Snow and cold all over the USA. Must be tough in perfect weather. But looks like you make the best of such a tough situation. Sunny and warm with lots of women can't be easy. Ill come down and help soon.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2657490]Yes, it's been my experience too. Once she says no kissing and then changes her mind, you are likely to get chitty kissing for a few seconds. Better to look For another girl.[/QUOTE]I would say 90% of the time you can just get it. But I ask just in case, it's a mood killer later on if she won't.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2657719]Quite a few of the girls I regularly talk to have been sick recently, only mild illness, out of commission for a few days.

Restaurants should mostly be open in Laureles, along with bars and stores. The only potential problem which could crop up is if the hospitals exceed capacity. I saw a recent article saying ICU beds in Medellin were 96% full and hospital beds were 85% full. Curfews, quarantines and lockdowns are determined by hospital available beds. However, case numbers have been dropping, so it's probably nothing to worry about.[/QUOTE]Thanks JB, perfect report, now I have a good feel what to expect but will keep. My guard up without being paranoid.

I did a world wind trip for 3 days to Medellin.

Based on the group talk. Suggestion was to stay at Du Pac Hotel, location was great location but didn't realize that some of the rooms don't have windows in the room which sucked but again it was only for 3 days trip and I dealt with it. They do charge extra for the girl but they do extra check and cleaned my room 2 times a day.

I did prep work a week beforehand with Tinder and SA search got lots of leads and took probably great deal of time to research once I had the info and used whatsapp to communicate. SA was most success for me. Tinder I would need more time to be in Medellin.

Plan was 3 girls per day spaced them 4 hours apart just incase of delay.

First day first girl was great 19 yrs old and cost was around 300,000 pesos.

2nd girl was another 19 and as soon as we start making out per pussy smelled, oh hell no, stopped and threw her out gave her uber money nothing else. She wanted to wash and so on. Nope if your pussy smells multi reason didn't want to take chance.

3rd girl was 26 yr old awesome body all modified ass and breasts but she was the best of the bunch.

2nd day I was down 1 and needed to make up for it.

1st place I went to was massage place that was on the google map.

Price to get in was 120,000 pesos per hour and 50,000 to girl direct for BBBJ.

Next girl was 2 hours later at the hotel and she must have eaten more during covid her ass was firm but not tiny like others. Damage 300,000 pesos.

3rd girl was I could say midget but oh well my screw up should have looked at her measurements but still tiny and decent enough of a job cost 300,000 pesos.

4th girl well got the same girl from the prior night. I got her drunk so much the first night I didn't pay her other than uber fee so gave her some extra cash the 2nd night.

3rd day day just got a massage and flew out until next trip.

All the girls was BBFS and only 1 allowed me to CIP.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2657767]I notice new openings in the fence every couple of weeks or so. There is still enough of a fence left to control the flow of the crowds but it is no longer as intact as it once was. I think you will see it gradually continue to go away.[/QUOTE]I've noticed the same thing, more and more openings seem to appear every few weeks.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2657975]I've noticed the same thing, more and more openings seem to appear every few weeks.[/QUOTE]I wonder WTF "they" are thinking, meaning whoever it is making the calls where to put the gaps in the fence.

Four consecutive girls saw me and did not expect to get paid. The Web cam model has been here 3 out of the past 5 mornings after her night shift. Surprisingly, considering her line of work, she is the most camera shy girl I am seeing right now. I think it is some sort of overcompensation behavior as she also takes Risperdal for paranoid schizophrenia. Like my dad taught me (RIP), the crazier the chica the better she fucks. I am second generation monger and I learned from one of the best. She has started talking about some much needed dental work so I know what's coming and I will probably help her with a gift. We all pay in the end, one way or another.

Two girls from my Top Ten line-up met at random in my hotel room yesterday for the first time. Purrfekt Piel is over five months pregnant and Amazonia just delivered a baby two weeks ago. Amazonia came over to fulfill a fantasy she repeatedly mentioned throughout her pregnancy, to get fucked while holding the baby. But after Purrfekt showed up you can imagine they had a lot to talk about.

Amazonia left first and I gave her 100 mil COP for diapers. Purrfekt was already here having fucked another client at The Nutti. She told me I could have sloppy seconds freebie as a friend. We were fucking five minutes after Amazonia left and it was great. I don't remember Purrfekt having an orgasm with me in the past year and this time she had four and she actually put down her cell phone. Talking about and playing with Amazonia's baby got her all juiced up.

Then, later in the evening one of my faves Super Groovy showed up on my doorstep saying she was in the neighborhood and wanted to see me for free. She Whassaped me from the front steps of the Nutti and was knocking on my door within one minute of her call. She stayed a little over an hour. After a great session she called EnDriver. I gave her 40 mil COP and one of the six mini-Blue-Tooth speakers I bought for regalos for my chicas, but she wasn't expecting anything.

Obviously I would love to see this trend continue but I don't believe it will. Still, all in all a very strange coincidence, or was it?

Fotos. Reclining nude is Purrfekt Piel on year ago to the day obviously before she was pregnant. No tats and no peircings, hence her moniker. Also, she has a damn near pufffekt figure. Chica in the lime yellow short set is the first new girl I fucked in a week or so. Great little spinner who had a few too many rules including very camera shy, but she left me a lot to work with and tapped out after her fourth or fifth orgasm. The green drink at breakfast is LuLu, made from and indigenous Colombian fruit, lime and water. Lightly sweet with a melony flavor and a bit of tang. I like it. Next, Purrfekt in the shower after sex cleaning the goop out of her pregnant, multi-orgasmed pussy. Finally Purrfekt and Amazonia engrossed in baby talk.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2658164]Four consecutive girls saw me and did not expect to get paid. The Web cam model has been here 3 out of the past 5 mornings after her night shift. Surprisingly, considering her line of work, she is the most camera shy girl I am seeing right now. I think it is some sort of overcompensation behavior as she also takes Risperdal for paranoid schizophrenia. Like my dad taught me (RIP), the crazier the chica the better she fucks. I am second generation monger and I learned from one of the best. She has started talking about some much needed dental work so I know what's coming and I will probably help her with a gift. We all pay in the end, one way or another.

Two girls from my Top Ten line-up met at random in my hotel room yesterday for the first time. Purrfekt Piel is over five months pregnant and Amazonia just delivered a baby two weeks ago. Amazonia came over to fulfill a fantasy she repeatedly mentioned throughout her pregnancy, to get fucked while holding the baby. But after Purrfekt showed up you can imagine they had a lot to talk about.

Amazonia left first and I gave her 100 mil COP for diapers. Purrfekt was already here having fucked another client at The Nutti. She told me I could have sloppy seconds freebie as a friend. We were fucking five minutes after Amazonia left and it was great. I don't remember Purrfekt having an orgasm with me in the past year and this time she had four and she actually put down her cell phone. Talking about and playing with Amazonia's baby got her all juiced up.

Then, later in the evening one of my faves Super Groovy showed up on my doorstep saying she was in the neighborhood and wanted to see me for free. She Whassaped me from the front steps of the Nutti and was knocking on my door within one minute of her call. She stayed a little over an hour. After a great session she called EnDriver. I gave her 40 mil COP and one of the six mini-Blue-Tooth speakers I bought for regalos for my chicas, but she wasn't expecting anything.

Obviously I would love to see this trend continue but I don't believe it will. Still, all in all a very strange coincidence, or was it?

Fotos. Reclining nude is Purrfekt Piel on year ago to the day obviously before she was pregnant. No tats and no peircings, hence her moniker. Also, she has a damn near pufffekt figure. Chica in the lime yellow short set is the first new girl I fucked in a week or so. Great little spinner who had a few too many rules including very camera shy, but she left me a lot to work with and tapped out after her fourth or fifth orgasm. The green drink at breakfast is LuLu, made from and indigenous Colombian fruit, lime and water. Lightly sweet with a melony flavor and a bit of tang. I like it. Next, Purrfekt in the shower after sex cleaning the goop out of her pregnant, multi-orgasmed pussy. Finally Purrfekt and Amazonia engrossed in baby talk.[/QUOTE]Do you still have the same girls at your top ten? Sometimes I feel I should be cheering for someone to move up or for someone make it to your top ten. Do you make a congratulatory speech when someone makes it to your top ten?

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2658164]Four consecutive girls saw me and did not expect to get paid. The Web cam model has been here 3 out of the past 5 mornings after her night shift. Surprisingly, considering her line of work, she is the most camera shy gir[/QUOTE]You are the man. I'd be happy with awesome paid experiences like yours let alone getting them for free. How long will you be in Medellin?

[QUOTE=Jimbox;2658231]Do you still have the same girls at your top ten? Sometimes I feel I should be cheering for someone to move up or for someone make it to your top ten. Do you make a congratulatory speech when someone makes it to your top ten?[/QUOTE]I will post my Top Ten again at the end of this trip. Feel free to root. In order for the system to work the girls on it generally should be interested in their number and even when they act like they don't care at first, they all want to know where they stand. Also, Catgirl is the perennial Numero Uno or it really starts to fall apart as she was the reason for the list in the first place. I've had new girls practically beg me for a number, usually after they look at the fotos on my phone, and others call me a crazy gringo. But not by the ones who are on the List. Pumpkin recently refused a ranking, but I sense she is changing her tune.

I see many more girls regularly than Ten but I am not good enough to effectively manage more than Ten. My neighbor today told me it reminds him of a harem, jajaja but I pointed out they are not all living under one roof, yet, so that term really does not apply. Perhaps a coterie? When my same neighbor asks "What Number is she" and I tell him she hasn't made the list yet, his jaw dropped. Suggestions and feedback welcome on a Title for the group, and insults to me will not be held against you, jajajaaja.

Every girl on the list I have known for two years or more, except for one so it's a tough line-up to crack. Scarlet holds the record for biggest mover starting well outside ten (I used to rank 20 chicas but it was untentable) and Jaz is the highest starter around 5 or 6, I forget at the moment because there have been so many changes. Surprisingly mi numero uno novia Catgirl I have seen the least of any one girl on The List this trip, so quality is not quantity, but she had elective surgery recently and was knocked out of commission. Scarlet and Purrfekt Piel get fucked the most. Correction, the number one position was vacated one time when Catgirl and I had a spate but no one directly made a move up as a result. Number One was left open until we made up and then she returned to her former spot at the top. The biggest surprise this trip and black horse? Caribe, the web cam model looks like she will crack the list and I do not know who she will displace yet. She is physically the best fuck but she will be in the bottom five.

Roughly positions 1-3 or 4 are novias, 4-7 are amigas, and 8-10 are chicas, all except position One can be in flux. There are other unwritten rules that I amazingly do not have to invoke very often. The most common rule that gets used is a higher ranked girl's wishes can get deference, which keeps the peace between the girls. Lots of three-ways among them but they all have not met each other. My previous post showed Purrfekt Piel and Amazonia meeting for the first time yesterday, and bonding over babies.

Ostee Out and let's make this fun while we Keep On Keepin' On. After all, if we are not having fun, then what is the fucking fun, pun intended?

[QUOTE=Shagmeister7777;2658257]You are the man. I'd be happy with awesome paid experiences like yours let alone getting them for free. How long will you be in Medellin?[/QUOTE]I have never bought a return ticket basically until forced to because of visa limits or some other pragmatic road block. I am documenting a journey and would never suggest that my way is better or worse than what anyone else does here. That's the beauty of Medellin, options and variety. Follow your heart and woody to what makes you happy.

I have never seen a female population with so much opportunity to engage in sexual fun as here, and I have played this game all around the world, literally.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2658297]Wow if those are the top 10 I'd hate to see with the bottom 10 look like.[/QUOTE]LOL. That was funny.

I will be visiting Medellin tomorrow till Feb. 9. Anyone want to show me the ropes in Medellin? I speak very little Spanish. So any help would be great! Ideally I would like to find a chica that speaks English. And that can also show me around the tourist sites!

[QUOTE=SoulCust;2658323]I will be visiting Medellin tomorrow till Feb. 9. Anyone want to show me the ropes in Medellin? I speak very little Spanish. So any help would be great! Ideally I would like to find a chica that speaks English. And that can also show me around the tourist sites![/QUOTE]You should have paid for a subscription, that way people can send you contacts and stuff like that.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2658164]Four consecutive girls saw me and did not expect to get paid. The Web cam model has been here 3 out of the past 5 mornings after her night shift. Surprisingly, considering her line of work, she is the most camera shy girl I am seeing right now. I think it is some sort of overcompensation behavior as she also takes Risperdal for paranoid schizophrenia. Like my dad taught me (RIP), the crazier the chica the better she fucks. I am second generation monger and I learned from one of the best. She has started talking about some much needed dental work so I know what's coming and I will probably help her with a gift. We all pay in the end, one way or another.[/QUOTE]The camera shy thing is probably business related. Webcam customers mostly need the fantasy that the girl isn't available to anyone, but would be available for them, if they ever went to visit. Some of them will completely meltdown over any indication that the model is involved with any other man. If you posted a picture of her somewhere and one of her tippers saw it, they would probably get really angry with her.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2658269]I see many more girls regularly than Ten but I am not good enough to effectively manage more than Ten. My neighbor today told me it reminds him of a harem, jajaja but I pointed out they are not all living under one roof, yet, so that term really does not apply. Perhaps a coterie? When my same neighbor asks "What Number is she" and I tell him she hasn't made the list yet, his jaw dropped. Suggestions and feedback welcome on a Title for the group, and insults to me will not be held against you, jajajaaja.[/QUOTE]The 94th Aero (smith) Squadron. All for your big 10. It could be simply "The Big 10", but there are 24 schools in the Big 10.

[QUOTE=SoulCust;2658323]I will be visiting Medellin tomorrow till Feb. 9. Anyone want to show me the ropes in Medellin? I speak very little Spanish. So any help would be great! Ideally I would like to find a chica that speaks English. And that can also show me around the tourist sites![/QUOTE]Look up Aleetours on Facebook. I don't know for certain that she's still in the P4 P game. She used to be. She speaks English and gives tours. I have no experience with her, but there have been good reviews.

[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;2657758]Lucky Nuts, In your response to Steve9696 you've inadvertently drifted into YMMV territory. Admittedly an exception, but just a week ago I received enthusiastic GFE from a chica at Fase II (including DFK and BBBJ without an upcharge or offering a propina (tip). True, night club ladies frequently decline kissing or mamada natural, but, that said, I've negotiated these extras on a numbr of occasions at Luna Lunera, San Diego, and Conejitos by simply offering a good tip for GFE service (and the possibility of follow-up visits at my apartment). In the casas I've almost always been able to get agreement to DFK / BBBJ up front, sometimes for nothing extra; more often for an upcharge or a propina. Eros Spa (Carrera 81 a # 34 a-15, Apt 301) actually has a list of up-charges (including BBBJ and anal) posted on the wall. Per my previous posts, at the casas I've always been able to interview my chica of choice to confirm full GFE service before agreeing to take her to bed.

No doubt other BMs have had comparable experience in securing kissing and blow jobs au natural at the local chica hunting grounds.[/QUOTE]Yes Nil Admirari you are correct there is always some YMMV and I'll also agree you can buy kissing with propinas at the "hunting grounds" you mentioned. The OP Steve loves Scandello in Sao Paulo. And La Isla is the closest thing to that in Medellin. I expect that's where he will want to hunt. My experience is that it's very difficult to get kissing let alone GFE kissing from La Isla chicas even when they visit me in my apartment. I had one here Sunday night and was able to get a few seconds of kissing by offering her some lingerie. And again before she walked out the the door with maybe we'll see each other again. But there was no making out. And she's the third La Isla chica I've had in my apartment and they have all been of the same mind on kissing. They don't even want to talk about a price for kissing because they don't want to do it. But then I'm always after the flaca chica with a pretty face so Steve's mileage may vary if he's more flexible with body types. Sounds like you get around Medellin quite a bit have you tried La Isla? My advice to Steve is that if kissing is really important to spend less time at La Isla and more time at places you mentioned. And the most time with Facebook chicas.

[QUOTE=AtlNightmare;2658307]LOL. That was funny.[/QUOTE]Because it is not a beauty ranking?

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2658380]Yes Nil Admirari you are correct there is always some YMMV and I'll also agree you can buy kissing with propinas at the "hunting grounds" you mentioned. .......Sounds like you get around Medellin quite a bit have you tried La Isla? My advice to Steve is that if kissing is really important to spend less time at La Isla and more time at places you mentioned. And the most time with Facebook chicas.[/QUOTE]In answer to your question, an awkward but (in retrospect) amusing experience at La Isla, which I thought I had posted way back when but can't find in the archive. During my annual Medellin visits over the past several years, I've headed up the hill to La Isla a number of times, but, with one exception, I haven't pulled the trigger and taken a chica to a room. This for several reasons: as you report, unable to get agreement to DFK / BBBJ, high price relative to quality compared with other venues, too crowded with big spenders monopolizing the few hot ladies, and, at least during my 2021 stays here, a noticeable decline in the number of doable chicas by my standards.

The exception. Earlier in the pandemic, when La Isla (presumably thanks to friends in high places) was the only club in town remaining open, I showed up there on the early side. After paying the entry fee, I was.

Disconcerted to find the club completely empty, but a waiter took me into the dressing room where about a half-dozen chicas were making their preparations for the evening. One super hot lady flashed me such a flirtatious smile that it prompted me to invite her for a copa. She was among 3 or 4 of the best looking / sexiest ladies I'd met in Medellin, with a very engaging personality--so much so, that, despite her categorical refusal to provide besos or mamada natural (normally an absolute deal killer for me), I forked up the 300 k to session with her. In the room she more than lived up to expectations--playful banter, sexy dancing for my pleasure, super strip tease and lap dance, off-the-chart BJ even with a condom, vocal and apparent O in DATY, and amazing twerking sex in cowgirl and RCG.

Then suddenly about half an hour into our session, she pulled up short. It had happened that (as not uncommon in my late geezerhood) my pecker had softened up a bit and the condom had inadvertently slipped off in her pussy without having my noticed it. The lady (with theatrical indignation) accused me of having deliberately barebacked her and, despite my sincere protestations / explanations, refused to continue. After getting dressed, I appealed up through 3 or 4 layers of the La Isla chain of command to the club's manager, but failed to get a partial refund, and headed somewhat disconsolately back down the magic mountain to Laureles.

A Las Isla. P.S.: Last August, during my two most recent forays to La Isla, a trio of high roller gringos were standing on a table raining dozens of peso bills onto the floor with 10 or so chicas, despite the humiliation, crawling around after the money. A truly disgusting spectacle--not to mention that these guys were monopolizing most all of the talent in the room.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2656436]Yes I RTTF. In fact I do daily. The Medellin thread is super active and as many of you may know I contribute regularly in other major threads where I have knowledge. Here's the rub. I hve no knowledge of Med. I like to read about it but it all just washes over me. Like some warm pussy juice.

So now here I am most likely coming to Med end of March and have questions as I start planning. So I would trul appreciate it if we could skip the RTTF comments and some generous members provide concise answers. (I am glad to provide any in return on US, Brazil, UK, Germany, Switzerland, Japan, China and Taiwan.

Often questions get asked with no context which is lame. So here is the context:

I prefer to stay at nice hotels in a part of the city that has a lot to do. Cafes. Restaurants and Bars. I am amazed to see a ton of hotels at $35 a night or something. I'm happy to pay to have a nice fit and finish. Maybe balcony and jacuzzi. I am always envious when you guys are showing all that. The buck goes far in Med. So where should I stay what part of city or preferably recommend hotels..[/QUOTE]A previous post gave you a good outline. I will say for a first time Poblado parque Lleras is your best bet for picking up in real time type action. Look at Airbnb the trick is finding places that are guest friendly as many places are in high rise buildings with security and have policies that don't allow guests that aren't registered or charge extra. Always good to know this upfront. Hotels can be even worse in that regard. Guest friendly will be your challenge. Airbnbs that aren't in high rise will likely not have as many amenities like jacuzzi pool etc but some have lockbox where you walk directly in front door so there is a tradeoff.

Check out liv realty they have some spots in Poblado and are known to be guest friendly, I believe you pay up front to reserve and its essentially nonrefundable unless they find someone else to rent during your dates.

[URL]https://www.livrealtymedellin.com/[/URL]

Just remember as a general rule for every 5 fb girls that say they will meet you expect 1 to show up LOL. Colombians don't stick to strict schedules like in America.

Ill be in mde the beginning of March (1-14) and if I can pull it off ill stay the whole month. I speak Spanish and have visited Colombia 1-2 x year since 2014 so hit me up if you'd like to link.

I don't know how some of you guys, especially the older ones keep going at it. I have been here a month and a bit getting a little burnt out from all the chicas. I think I have not been hanging with any friends or ISG members for a few weeks and its taking a toll on my mind LOL. But it seems that there is a lot less of us here then there was even two weeks ago. So Message me up boys if your down to go out and hit up some spots in Medellin.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2658409]Because it is not a beauty ranking?[/QUOTE]What is beauty?

Someone said it best a thousand years ago, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."

[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;2658484]Then suddenly about half an hour into our session, she pulled up short. It had happened that (as not uncommon in my late geezerhood) my pecker had softened up a bit and the condom had inadvertently slipped off in her pussy without having my noticed it. The lady (with theatrical indignation) accused me of having deliberately barebacked her and, despite my sincere protestations / explanations, refused to continue. After getting dressed, I appealed up through 3 or 4 layers of the La Isla chain of command to the club's manager, but failed to get a partial refund, and headed somewhat disconsolately back down the magic mountain to Laureles..[/QUOTE]Sounds like you were in a no win situation.

I had something on the same lines happen to me in Hong Kong years ago. I was in a casa or whatever they called them there and picked a girl.

And I'm not bragging, but the girl once in the room, and when I was getting ready to put it in here, she said no, and that I was too large.

Which I found hard to believe as this has never happened to me before, and the girl ended the session.

When I dressed and complained to the Madam, or Mamasun, or whatever they are called, I was given a partial refund.

In your case, and since you did penetrate her and banged her for awhile, I can see how your request for a partial refund fell on deaf ears.

[QUOTE=Alaska1986;2658392][URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100041238544910[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100046765517639[/URL]

Both of their friends list are visible to me although I am their fb friend so maybe that's why.[/QUOTE]I strongly suggest you buy a membership so you can share your Facebook list internally. Posting this Facebook list to a wider audience will automatically turn those Facebook girls into divas. 150 K sessions will turn into USD 150.

Was this one of the posses that have degraded the scene in Cartagena too? Sound familiar.

Not high rollers though. Jet Blue want to-be's. Organized sex tours.

[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;2658484]
A Las Isla. P.S.: Last August, during my two most recent forays to La Isla, a trio of high roller gringos were standing on a table raining dozens of peso bills onto the floor with 10 or so chicas, despite the humiliation, crawling around after the money. A truly disgusting spectacle--not to mention that these guys were monopolizing most all of the talent in the room.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kafka;2658541]Was this one of the posses that have degraded the scene in Cartagena too? Sound familiar.

Not high rollers though. Jet Blue want to-be's. Organized sex tours.[/QUOTE]You're no doubt right. Wannabes with a posse vibe. True highrollers, whatever their ilk, would have more class--or at least constraint.

[QUOTE=Jimbox;2658533]I strongly suggest you buy a membership so you can share your Facebook list internally. Posting this Facebook list to a wider audience will automatically turn those Facebook girls into divas. 150 K sessions will turn into USD 150.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I do have a membership I'll correct it.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2658364]The camera shy thing is probably business related. Webcam customers mostly need the fantasy that the girl isn't available to anyone, but would be available for them, if they ever went to visit. Some of them will completely meltdown over any indication that the model is involved with any other man. If you posted a picture of her somewhere and one of her tippers saw it, they would probably get really angry with her.[/QUOTE]Because as I have often been known to post at such places, "The product they sell here is fantasy."

I plan on visiting Colombia for the first time next month and I'm wondering what city you guys recommend? I see on this forum Medellin is really popular but other forums and on youtube Bogota seems to be the go to spot. Unfortunately I won't be able to visit two cities while I'm there. Have any of you been to both cities and could recommend one or the other?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2658367]The 94th Aero (smith) Squadron. All for your big 10. It could be simply "The Big 10", but there are 24 schools in the Big 10.[/QUOTE]Because those ten to twenty-four numbers paralled what's really going on. I have Ten, but I know around 24 chicas that I would do regularly (including the Top Ten). But I think I will stick with the classic, Top Ten. Thanks for the input.

The Hotel Botero or Real, the closest hotel to the front door of the Vera Cruz church increased their price for 30 minutes from 25 mil COP to 30 mil COP, and for one hour from 50 to 60 mil COP. As I alluded to before, the baseline rate for a no-frill encounter has increased from 30 mil COP to 40 mil COP. Every chica I have talked to has told me their rent went up, food prices went up. Metro fares went up, all in the past two months. Ostee Out.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2658527]What is beauty?

Someone said it best a thousand years ago, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."[/QUOTE]That is the same thing I said. Right? You have to debate this with [B]The Cane[/B] who can school you on this point.

There's some really hot fruit madres on the beach in Cartagena. I guarantee they will treat you like a king. And all the fruit plates you can eat. They might be 10 for somebody..... or maybe not.

After getting bored with Medellin fairly quick, after all the ugly girls I saw, Is there a city in Colombia that has a beach as nice as Cancun. If I do go back I want to go to a different city but want to be next to a nice beach if they exist in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2658638]That is the same thing I said. Right? You have to debate this with [B]The Cane[/B] who can school you on this point.[/QUOTE]Actionable, useful info is the most valuable commodity in the world.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2658663]After getting bored with Medellin fairly quick, after all the ugly girls I saw, Is there a city in Colombia that has a beach as nice as Cancun. If I do go back I want to go to a different city but want to be next to a nice beach if they exist in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Cartagena. But the nice beaches are about and hour boats ride away. Bendita beach is very nice.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2658663]After getting bored with Medellin fairly quick, after all the ugly girls I saw, Is there a city in Colombia that has a beach as nice as Cancun. If I do go back I want to go to a different city but want to be next to a nice beach if they exist in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Supply and Demand, my bothers in hijinx.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2658695]Actionable, useful info is the most valuable commodity in the world.[/QUOTE]LOL, next time when this topic comes up again. I will tell you. He has too many posts for me to find it right now even though this topic came up frequent enough. In a nutshell, The Cane claims everyone agrees with him and I tend to agree with him too, haha.

[QUOTE=Ricardo01;2658520]I don't know how some of you guys, especially the older ones keep going at it. I have been here a month and a bit getting a little burnt out from all the chicas. I think I have not been hanging with any friends or ISG members for a few weeks and its taking a toll on my mind LOL. But it seems that there is a lot less of us here then there was even two weeks ago. So Message me up boys if your down to go out and hit up some spots in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Leather lungs, tethered brain, calloused liver, leather-strap dick, mind control, good genes, and practice, practice, practice. I commonly party my 18+ girlfriends under the table.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2658663]After getting bored with Medellin fairly quick, after all the ugly girls I saw, Is there a city in Colombia that has a beach as nice as Cancun. If I do go back I want to go to a different city but want to be next to a nice beach if they exist in Colombia.[/QUOTE]You're going to be getting on a plane, so might as well go to San Andres to find what your looking for beach wise unless you go to Parque Tyrona outside of Santa Marta, but the beaches within the park can be a pain to get to unless you have a boat, and foreigners get hosed on the entrance fees.

As far as getting bored quickly in Medellin, and seeing so many ugly girls, well sorry to hear this.

It's rough here in Medellin for sure! LOL.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2658640]There's some really hot fruit madres on the beach in Cartagena. I guarantee they will treat you like a king. And all the fruit plates you can eat. They might be 10 for somebody..... or maybe not.[/QUOTE]Yes, I have seen them, they wear the colorful outfits, with their fruit for sale in a basket on their heads.

Not even sure how someone might approach them for services, and some of them are very weathered looking to say the least, and perhaps at least a "minus" 10 for most. LOL.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2658527]What is beauty?.....[/QUOTE]Yesterday a slim attractive escort came to my place. She was like an oasis in the desert of biggies that have been sent to me for tending to in recent times. She came with an attitude, I could see right off that she fancied herself; in her eyes she was the cat's whiskers. She was all business, no time for idle banter. She got undressed as I did and proceeded to unleash a barrage of her 'do not dos' to me. I was having none of it. The chemistry was all bad. I got dressed and suggested that she do the same and get the hell out of my place. She protested while I gave her taxi money and escorted her to the door. Little did she know that the guy who sent her to me and I have known each other for many years. Keep your good looks, I will go for a 6 with a good attitude over a self important 9 any day.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2658868]Yesterday a slim attractive escort came to my place. She was like an oasis in the desert of biggies that have been sent to me for tending to in recent times. She came with an attitude, I could see right off that she fancied herself; in her eyes she was the cat's whiskers. She was all business, no time for idle banter. She got undressed as I did and proceeded to unleash a barrage of her 'do not dos' to me. I was having none of it. The chemistry was all bad. I got dressed and suggested that she do the same and get the hell out of my place. She protested while I gave her taxi money and escorted her to the door. Little did she know that the guy who sent her to me and I have known each other for many years. Keep your good looks, I will go for a 6 with a good attitude over a self important 9 any day.[/QUOTE]We have had several posts on this topic. The point cannot be stressed enough. My own recent example. I met this FB lady. A tad bit older at 27. I usually foam at the mouth for a nice tall flacita with a beautiful face. Well this girl was 4'10" at best. Very pretty face but so-so body. We all judge differently but her pretty face made her about a 7 for me. Probably a 6 for others.

Well after the session as she was leaving I realized she wasn't a 7 she was a 16.7 for looks but 9 for performance.

I discussed my experience with Oste briefly and I have a new formula. I'm willing (in fact delighted) to trade a point or two on the looks scale if I get those points back on the performance scale.

Turgid's point is exactly right. My 7 knows the competition is fierce. She knows she is probably getting only one date but if she makes it the best date possible, she may see the guy a few more times and may get some referrals. So yes. Performance matters and I agree. Give me the 7 that wants to rock my world instead of the 9 who has an attitude that I should thank my lucky stars that she even bothered with me.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2658874] My 7 knows the competition is fierce. She knows she is probably getting only one date but if she makes it the best date possible, she may see the guy a few more times and may get some referrals. So yes. Performance matters and I agree. Give me the 7 that wants to rock my world instead of the 9 who has an attitude that I should thank my lucky stars that she even bothered with me.[/QUOTE]Dig a little deeper, or I guess descend a bit down to the "5" category, and the performance's may be logarithmically better than the 7's.

But I'm not proposing anything lower than that, I do have standards, as low as they may be to maintain. LOL.

The ones with the fruit on their head just post for pictures with tourists the fruit madres I am referencing, line the beach and sell fruit plates, . They'll even squirt cream on them. LOL.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2658838]Yes, I have seen them, they wear the colorful outfits, with their fruit for sale in a basket on their heads.

Not even sure how someone might approach them for services, and some of them are very weathered looking to say the least, and perhaps at least a "minus" 10 for most. LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Villainy;2658874]We have had several posts on this topic. The point cannot be stressed enough. My own recent example. I met this FB lady. A tad bit older at 27. I usually foam at the mouth for a nice tall flacita with a beautiful face. Well this girl was 4'10" at best. Very pretty face but so-so body. We all judge differently but her pretty face made her about a 7 for me. Probably a 6 for others.

Well after the session as she was leaving I realized she wasn't a 7 she was a 16.7 for looks but 9 for performance.

I discussed my experience with Oste briefly and I have a new formula. I'm willing (in fact delighted) to trade a point or two on the looks scale if I get those points back on the performance scale.

Turgid's point is exactly right. My 7 knows the competition is fierce. She knows she is probably getting only one date but if she makes it the best date possible, she may see the guy a few more times and may get some referrals. So yes. Performance matters and I agree. Give me the 7 that wants to rock my world instead of the 9 who has an attitude that I should thank my lucky stars that she even bothered with me.[/QUOTE]You guys make a wrong assumption thinking that if she is a 9 her performance in bed will definitely suck. This assumption also makes you settle for less without even trying to hit on gorgeous girls. I have not had many 8's and 9's in my life, but I had a few, and never got an attitude or shitty performance from any of them, the best sex in my life, say top 5 in terms of performance, has always been with 8's and 9's. Just imagine, you are fucking a smoking hot girl and she is into you, and the sex is passionate and hot, and you are in heaven. This is what every monger should aim for. The real problem with 8's and 9's is not the performance (why would it be different? Hot or not, they are all human beings and love to fuck), the problem is as follows: 1. They are difficult to find. 2. Once you find them, it is difficult to grab their attention or to get a reply, if online. 3. Once they reply, it is hard to negotiate a price / terms. 4. The last one, it is hard to actually meet in person, because they flake or ghost you. But once you get to that point of meeting, her performance should not be an issue if you treat her right, have a good hygiene, etc. And if GFE is what you are looking for, don't go for escorts and hardened pros, otherwise you will have issues described in the recent post. This doesn't have to do anything with the looks, you could fuck an average looking Parque Lleras girl and get equally shitty service, I think we all have been there, done that. My point is that don't assume just because she is hot, you will get disappointed in bed, just don't bother with escorts.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2658902]My point is that don't assume just because she is hot, you will get disappointed in bed, just don't bother with escorts.[/QUOTE]Your point does not require a shared rating system.

I love it when I can win a debate in one simple statement, jeje. Next.

Keep On Keepin' On my brother in hijinx, and try to feel the love.

I am sorry you were bored with MDE so quickly. The city you saw is not the same city I see. I find lots of hot girls, nice people, fun things to do, good weather, etc. But to each his own. One less "competitor" to deal with.

To address your question. Nice beach. Well, CTG does not generally have nice beaches, unless perhaps you to go Playa Blanca. The beaches in Santa Marta are OK, with the best ones being in Tyrona National Park to the north of Santa Marta. Probably the best beaches are in San Andres, but you won't find any chica action there. You need to bring your own.

I should note that I am from Florida and am accustomed to nice beaches. I don't particularly find cancun to be that great, honestly. So if that's the standard, you should be able to find a satisfactory beach in Colombia.

[Should have read the other replies before doing so. It looks like another Board member has a similar opinion to me with regard to the beaches to try.]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2658663]After getting bored with Medellin fairly quick, after all the ugly girls I saw, Is there a city in Colombia that has a beach as nice as Cancun. If I do go back I want to go to a different city but want to be next to a nice beach if they exist in Colombia.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kafka;2658901]The ones with the fruit on their head just post for pictures with tourists the fruit madres I am referencing, line the beach and sell fruit plates, . They'll even squirt cream on them. LOL.[/QUOTE]Well then, if I can squirt cream in them, I'm in. LOL.

Some kind of energy nexus point, as yet to be defined. Two more girls came over late and did not expect payment, Scarlet and unbeknownst to me, Super Groovy came-a-knocking on my door after I told Scarlet I wouldn't pay her to visit. I assumed that meant she would not come but I was wrong. That makes six girls in a row. Scarlet has novia status in my line-up so she does not have to be paid but I usually give her at least a hundred mil COP because she is so poor so you can call that one a cheat and I will acquiesce. I still gave Super 40 mil COP for cab fare but she definitely was not expecting it by the expression and sound that came out of her moufus, you know, one of those Scooby Doo's.

So yesterday ended up being a five girl day, way above my average of 3.2 to 3.3 this trip. This really is a different culture here. When Caribe got off her night shift from the Web camming studio this morning, she walked in (I left the door open for her) walked over to my bed, threw the covers back. The first words out of her mouth were, "Why isn't your cock hard?" She then dragged me out of bed, pushed me in the shower before she would have sex with me. I don't know how she knew I had not showered since Scarlet and Super left late last night, but she did. By the time I got out of the shower, she was passed out asleep. Where she is now.

And not to berate the point, but it looks like the 7th girl not expecting payment is coming over later, although I did promise to take her out to eat and to buy her one cute thing to wear, and of course pay taxi. Like a date. And my outlay will be roughly half compared to fair market value of Pay for Play. So of course, there never really is such a thing as "free", we all pay in the end, one way or another.

Why ask why? I am going to ride this wave until it reaches shore and I have no idea how far from the beach I am. Ostee Out and let's Keep On Keepin' On, together. I am running on fumes. Back to the salt mines and time to dig deep.

Among the fotos, I was playing with Scarlet pale pink pussy and asshole for two hours while she laid on her side on her cell phone. Sometimes I love it when they detach like that. Total ojectification. Sorry JustTK, jeje, if both parties are willing participants I don't see an issue.

Look twice, Jessie is sucking one of my balls, not the shaft, it's an optical illusion, jajajaja. She is my current Ground Zero fave. I have not had her to my hotel room yet. I tried but she was one of the ones who the front desk would not let pass because of how she was dressed. Other than that single isolated episode, no other negative mongering issues here at The Nutti. In fact, now that I have my own WiFi Hotspot, the longer I stay here, the more I like it. Life is good.

Hello,

All I am new to the thread, I have been scouring it for days trying to get prices for women all night. You've given the 200 k rate in gustos, la Isla, parque Lleras, etc.

What would the all night rate be in those places? It is my first time. I plan on hitting Gustos, La Isla (but not so confident in that based on what I've read) outside in Parque LLeras?

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2658902]You guys make a wrong assumption thinking that if she is a 9 her performance in bed will definitely suck. This assumption also makes you settle for less without even trying to hit on gorgeous girls. I have not had many 8's and 9's in my life, but I had a few, and never got an attitude or shitty performance from any of them, the best sex in my life, say top 5 in terms of performance, has always been with 8's and 9's. Just imagine, you are fucking a smoking hot girl and she is into you, and the sex is passionate and hot, and you are in heaven. This is what every monger should aim for. The real problem with 8's and 9's is not the performance (why would it be different? Hot or not, they are all human beings and love to fuck), the problem is as follows: 1. They are difficult to find. 2. Once you find them, it is difficult to grab their attention or to get a reply, if online. 3. Once they reply, it is hard to negotiate a price / terms. 4. The last one, it is hard to actually meet in person, because they flake or ghost you. But once you get to that point of meeting, her performance should not be an issue if you treat her right, have a good hygiene, etc. And if GFE is what you are looking for, don't go for escorts and hardened pros, otherwise you will have issues described in the recent post. This doesn't have to do anything with the looks, you could fuck an average looking Parque Lleras girl and get equally shitty service, I think we all have been there, done that. My point is that don't assume just because she is hot, you will get disappointed in bed, just don't bother with escorts.[/QUOTE]I don't see where anyone made that assumption, at least not recently. Both Turgid and Villainy just reported on specific situations, one where a possible 8 or 9 had attitude issues and the other where a 6 or 7 gave an excellent performance.

I can't say what number rating is appropriate for the women who have given me the best sex of my life. Mainly because, except to make a comparison, I don't use a number scale. Another reason is that there are too many factors in "the best sex" ranking. When I think about the 5-10 top contenders for my #1 sex experience slot, they are all different. There's also the problem that some of them I had sex with several times and not every time was spectacular.

My mood, her mood, how attractive each finds the other, the location, the atmosphere, whether or not there's an emotional connection, how responsive each is to the other's actions, are just some of the factors for me.

The experience can also change drastically while it's happening. I've had sessions which started out average and then finished amazing and vice versa.

While I think most would agree, fantastic sex with a girl who they consider highly attractive is the best, not everyone is willing to jump through all the hoops and deal with all the issues to only seek those experiences.

1. They are difficult to find. I can easily find 20 girls who are above average in looks in the time it takes to find an exceptional girl.

2. It can be hard to get their attention. Drop down one notch and getting their attention requires having a pulse. I get the attention of 15 girls a week by doing absolutely nothing.

3. It can be hard to negotiate a price. When you have 2,000 women all wanting to see you, negotiating a price is simple.

4. They flake or ghost you. Even after overcoming all the other obstacles, you end up with nothing to show for it? For me that's a deal breaker. I'm fine with spending the time searching and I know how to get their attention. I'm willing to pay the price to get what I want. However, after doing everything, I'm probably going to have to start over from the beginning?

I think that's what Turgid and Villainy are saying. Why put all your effort into some endeavor which rarely succeeds, when you can have guaranteed success with very little effort?

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2658663]After getting bored with Medellin fairly quick, after all the ugly girls I saw, Is there a city in Colombia that has a beach as nice as Cancun. If I do go back I want to go to a different city but want to be next to a nice beach if they exist in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Why see ugly girls when there are beautiful girls everywhere? If you couldn't find a beautiful girl in Medellin, you won't be able to find one anywhere in Colombia.

If the beach at Cancun is the place you would rather be, why not just go to Cancun? This is the thing which always confuses me. Guys post on here asking if Medellin has places like they enjoy in other countries. Just go to the other country. While you might find some really good sushi in North Dakota, if you're looking for a place just like one in Tokyo, you're going to be disappointed with North Dakota's best.

My opinion is people should visit a city or country because of what that city or country has to offer, not because they offer something similar to another place. You won't find a Cancun in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2658874]Give me the 7 that wants to rock my world instead of the 9 who has an attitude that I should thank my lucky stars that she even bothered with me.[/QUOTE]I have a great usa friend. He has 2-3 10's every day. Its very rare tgat any of his girls are anything but 10's. They are all "smoking hot", even the ugly ones. They are all really keen on him too, even though he knows only 5-6 words of spanish, and they all love having sex w him, even the ones that don't.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2658874]I'm willing (in fact delighted) to trade a point or two on the looks scale if I get those points back on the performance scale.[/QUOTE]And how are you going to rate performance beforehand? You just plan on picking a bunch of ugly chicks in hopes they perform better than they look?

[QUOTE=Villainy;2658874]Give me the 7 that wants to rock my world instead of the 9 who has an attitude[/QUOTE]Still don't know why these are the 2 choices. What about the 7 with an attitude or the 9 that wants to rock your world? Why are these not options as well? Do all 9s have attitudes? Do all 7s want to rock worlds? Of course I will accept a car that does not look all that good but gets me places over one that just sits in the driveway looking good but does not run. But I would rather have a car that looks good and gets me places if I have that choice. You guys act like that is not an option.

All the hotels around Veracruz raised their rates. The cheapest of them went up 1,000 pesos, the mid range places like mentioned went up 5,000. I have not noticed a change in the price of girls, 25,000 to 30,000 consistently but of course YMMV.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2658628]The Hotel Botero or Real, the closest hotel to the front door of the Vera Cruz church increased their price for 30 minutes from 25 mil COP to 30 mil COP, and for one hour from 50 to 60 mil COP. As I alluded to before, the baseline rate for a no-frill encounter has increased from 30 mil COP to 40 mil COP. Every chica I have talked to has told me their rent went up, food prices went up. Metro fares went up, all in the past two months. Ostee Out.[/QUOTE]

As explained to me by several providers, they don't want to wind up on the Internet. A webcam girl I know was fed a line of bullshit by the studio manager. He told her the site is not reachable from Colombia. Her last day as a webcam girl was the day I showed her the site using a spoofed address. She was horrified.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2658364]The camera shy thing is probably business related. Webcam customers mostly need the fantasy that the girl isn't available to anyone, but would be available for them, if they ever went to visit. Some of them will completely meltdown over any indication that the model is involved with any other man. If you posted a picture of her somewhere and one of her tippers saw it, they would probably get really angry with her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2658628]The Hotel Botero or Real, the closest hotel to the front door of the Vera Cruz church increased their price for 30 minutes from 25 mil COP to 30 mil COP, and for one hour from 50 to 60 mil COP. As I alluded to before, the baseline rate for a no-frill encounter has increased from 30 mil COP to 40 mil COP. Every chica I have talked to has told me their rent went up, food prices went up. Metro fares went up, all in the past two months. Ostee Out.[/QUOTE]This is not true unless maybe your referring to the total price including the girl's fee and the hotel. I was just there this morning bro, Hotel Botero Real (the red hotel). It used to be 7 k and now it is 8 k (un rato / half hour) and for an hour it used to be 14 k and now it is 16 k COP.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2658663]After getting bored with Medellin fairly quick, after all the ugly girls I saw, Is there a city in Colombia that has a beach as nice as Cancun. If I do go back I want to go to a different city but want to be next to a nice beach if they exist in Colombia.[/QUOTE]That is funny, another guy bitching about women in Medellin. Tijuana, you have company here. Where have all the good ones gone? Cartagena is an expensive city but IMO the weather is perfect. High 80's during day, low 70's at night. It is not too big. It is a Caribbean city where the prices, though higher than the rest of Colombia, are much cheaper than the rest of the Caribbean world.

The beaches are dirt. The first time I saw them I thought them ugly. There are a few okay ones, but even though the beach is close, I do not go that much. Still, if you go to Bocagrande, the water is pretty clear, and it is warm. The better beaches are a 30 to 60 minute boat ride away on an island. I have been here 30+ days and done that once.

What I have appreciated more is the beach at back drop. I love watching the pelicans do their dive bombing routine looking for fish and the amazing sunsets. I chose to come back time and again to Cartagena because I like the weather, the food, the air. I did not like it that much at first, but it grew on me. Chances are the first time you see it you will not be that impressed.

As for the women, I have not done much here. Thing is that you have to hunt for the beauties IMO. They are there, at the malls ETC. I went to a dentist here, and she had loose scrubs on but I could see the amazing figure underneath it.

I am just not sure how much is left. I have taken one of the best, and I see all her friends and many are stunning. I just think the best ones have been snatched up. The others are in hiding. Guys from all over the world have been flying to Colombia to try out the women here.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2658902]You guys make a wrong assumption thinking that if she is a 9 her performance in bed will definitely suck. This assumption also makes you settle for less without even trying to hit on gorgeous girls. I have not had many 8's and 9's in my life, but I had a few, and never got an attitude or shitty performance from any of them, the best sex in my life, say top 5 in terms of performance, has always been with 8's and 9's. Just imagine, you are fucking a smoking hot girl and she is into you, and the sex is passionate and hot, and you are in heaven. This is what every monger should aim for. The real problem with 8's and 9's is not the performance (why would it be different? Hot or not, they are all human beings and love to fuck), the problem is as follows: 1. They are difficult to find. 2. Once you find them, it is difficult to grab their attention or to get a reply, if online. 3. Once they reply, it is hard to negotiate a price / terms. 4. The last one, it is hard to actually meet in person, because they flake or ghost you. But once you get to that point of meeting, her performance should not be an issue if you treat her right, have a good hygiene, etc. And if GFE is what you are looking for, don't go for escorts and hardened pros, otherwise you will have issues described in the recent post..[/QUOTE]I have done some of the most beautiful 18 yo, 10's in the world, blonde haired blue eyed goddesses with no ink babies or implants.

Great, amazing sex swallowing my jizz and eating my ass like a porn star, but something is always lacking.

I believe ETooms wrote one day.

Some guys want to drive the expensive sports car.

But he said he rather be the expensive sports car being driven.

In other words, these 10's have large egos.

Guess what so do I (among other things) LOL.

I want them worshipping me, these 10's are used to guys kissing their feet (that's not me).

When I pay a puta for sex regardless of her 1-10 position.

I want her "worshipping me" I want them kissing my feet.

I don't pay 3rd world putas to kiss their asses (or any putas).

The longer I travel, it is having the simple things that I want that matters most: a decent place to eat, good bed, electrical outlets, nice TV, and my God, just hot water. Maybe it is because the mongers have been so bad that in the past that the good hotels have charged through the roof guest fees, and we have been stuck with 2nd rate hotels like Hotel Haven.

My favorite mongering hotels were those in Mexico where the hotel lobby was like on the 6th floor and guest rooms were on floors much higher like the 9th floor and I could just zip by the lobby on the elevator and not have to worry about even checking someone in.

Well, Medellin has a hotel like that now. The Fairfeld Inn by Marriott just opened up, and it has all the amenities we Americans want and it is around $65 a night. The exact address is: Fairfield by Marriott Medellin Sabaneta, Cra. 43 A #50 sur 201, Sabaneta, Medellin, Antioquia.

If you put in Medellin and Fairfield into google maps, you will end up in a parking lot. You have to use the city of Sabaneta in your search.

It would be better if the hotel were closer to the action and to the airport, and I just had a fleeting one night glance but the city of Sabaneta had a nice new mall and it seemed safe to me. Maybe the experts can chime in with more.

If I were still in the game of screening women with SA, this hotel is for certain the one I would use.

Only reason I stayed there is my night flight to Cartagena got bumped until today. My loss is the gain of you guys here.

This is not the high end Marriott though. It is their low cost option. It is more like La Quinta or Holiday Inn than JW Marriott.

Maybe they will have a bellhop monitoring guests on the first floor in the future but for now, there was no one there.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2658975]And how are you going to rate performance beforehand? You just plan on picking a bunch of ugly chicks in hopes they perform better than they look?[/QUOTE]That one is simple. You pay attention. When you're talking or messaging with the girl, you evaluate her responses. Is she just giving the simplest responses, or is she putting in some effort? If you found her on Facebook, check out her page. Is everything self-centered? Does she have any interests other than just posting selfies?

While none of that is definitive, it helps to weed out the ones who are going to just give minimal effort.

Where did anyone mention ugly chicks? I think most guys wouldn't consider a 7 to be ugly, even if they are only looking for an 8-10.

Long ago I played a game whenever I went to a strip club. Obviously there were some dancers I found more attractive than others and some I didn't find attractive. The game was simple. Find the positive. Maybe the ugly girl was a great dancer, or really knew how to work the pole. Maybe she just had a great smile, or personality. It didn't mean I was ready to make it rain for the chubby girl. It just meant I looked for some aspect of each girl which I could appreciate. Not only did it make my night more enjoyable, but it helped me connect with the more attractive dancers. Every beautiful woman has at least 1 fat or ugly friend.

[QUOTE]Still don't know why these are the 2 choices. What about the 7 with an attitude or the 9 that wants to rock your world? Why are these not options as well? Do all 9s have attitudes? Do all 7s want to rock worlds? Of course I will accept a car that does not look all that good but gets me places over one that just sits in the driveway looking good but does not run. But I would rather have a car that looks good and gets me places if I have that choice. You guys act like that is not an option.[/QUOTE]This is simple as well. Nobody said there are only 2 choices. They both just stated that performance is at least as important as appearance. Some agree, some don't.

Ideally, each person decides what is more important to them.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2658958]

1. They are difficult to find. I can easily find 20 girls who are above average in looks in the time it takes to find an exceptional girl.

2. It can be hard to get their attention. Drop down one notch and getting their attention requires having a pulse. I get the attention of 15 girls a week by doing absolutely nothing.

3. It can be hard to negotiate a price. When you have 2,000 women all wanting to see you, negotiating a price is simple.

4. They flake or ghost you. Even after overcoming all the other obstacles, you end up with nothing to show for it? For me that's a deal breaker. I'm fine with spending the time searching and I know how to get their attention. I'm willing to pay the price to get what I want. However, after doing everything, I'm probably going to have to start over from the beginning?

I think that's what Turgid and Villainy are saying. Why put all your effort into some endeavor which rarely succeeds, when you can have guaranteed success with very little effort?[/QUOTE]1. We are talking about smoking hot girls, not just "above average".

2. What girls you are talking about? Parque Lleras? El Centro? Sure, when you show up there, all eyes are on you (and your wallet).

3. When she has 2000 men all wanting to fuck her, negotiating a price is indeed difficult.

4. Why do they flake? Her regular just messaged her he is in town wanting to meet. Or a higher offer just came in. Her friend just offered a free photoshoot. Etc, etc, etc. Good looking girls get a lot of attention and benefits, and are very selective for that reason.

How do you define a success? Is merely getting laid a success for you? Sure, picking up El Centro girl for a quick fuck doesn't require much effort. All you need is a dick and 40 mil. For me, a success is when I get what I really want, the way I want (and that is not an average looking chica or lousy service). High effort, high reward.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2658975]And how are you going to rate performance beforehand? You just plan on picking a bunch of ugly chicks in hopes they perform better than they look?

Still don't know why these are the 2 choices. What about the 7 with an attitude or the 9 that wants to rock your world? Why are these not options as well? Do all 9s have attitudes? Do all 7s want to rock worlds? Of course I will accept a car that does not look all that good but gets me places over one that just sits in the driveway looking good but does not run. But I would rather have a car that looks good and gets me places if I have that choice. You guys act like that is not an option.[/QUOTE]After reading all these posts I think what we can agree on is attitude trumps looks by a good margin? I guess the question is how much can a great attitude make up for in the looks department. Don't know about you but doesn't matter how great the attitude is from a glue sniffing anorexic chica from el centro has, there is definitely a line all of us are not willing to cross. Interesting thought though, for my upcoming trip I'm going to make an effort to find the best positive attitude chica I can find regardless of what she looks like. As Mr Eternational says though its almost impossible to tell until you're both but naked in bed but there are some tell tail signs to look out for beforehand.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2659036]1. We are talking about smoking hot girls, not just "above average".

2. What girls you are talking about? Parque Lleras? El Centro? Sure, when you show up there, all eyes are on you (and your wallet).

3. When she has 2000 men all wanting to fuck her, negotiating a price is indeed difficult.

4. Why do they flake? Her regular just messaged her he is in town wanting to meet. Or a higher offer just came in. Her friend just offered a free photoshoot. Etc, etc, etc. Good looking girls get a lot of attention and benefits, and are very selective for that reason.

How do you define a success? Is merely getting laid a success for you? Sure, picking up El Centro girl for a quick fuck doesn't require much effort. All you need is a dick and 40 mil. For me, a success is when I get what I really want, the way I want (and that is not an average looking chica or lousy service). High effort, high reward.[/QUOTE]You have to read what JB wrote again. Your don't seem get it based on reading what you wrote. One thing JB says is the success rate is low which is basically what you are saying. You also are not counting what you go thru like now, or most of the time we read your posts. Sure you got high reward, but it also seems you are paying for it in some way too which can cancel out the reward that many choose to move on.

Don has no problem getting 10's.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2653473]...
There are too many women and not enough time to meet. And once I land there will be even more. I downsized from over 200 (with their numbers, texting etc.) to [b]only around 50 but in different cities all over Colombia. Most are 10's[/b]. They are all nice people. My penis is apparently running the show. So I increased the time in Colombia to 2 months. I figure 10 of these girls will want long term relationships. If I fall in love, it won't be the first time. I hope to meet them and return to close a deal with someone, maybe more than one. Help Elvis! . I feel kinda bad about that. But you only live once.[/QUOTE]

and this

[QUOTE=JustTK;2658967]I have a great usa friend. He has [b]2-3 10's every day[/b]. Its very rare tgat any of his girls are anything but 10's. They are all "smoking hot", even the ugly ones. They are all really keen on him too, even though he knows only 5-6 words of spanish, and they all love having sex w him, even the ones that don't.[/QUOTE]

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I will be in MED in a few days and was wondering if anyone here was also making the trip? I'm staying at the San Peter Apts, got a top floor soundproof room (yeah right). As this is my first trip, was wondering if anyone would want to meet up, I'll buy the beer for your advice!

I have done some homework, lurked a bit as I planned my trip trying to stack the deck in my favor. I invested in a travel safe, bought and configured a secure travel Wi-Fi router, and other mentioned necessities. Also, I successfully chatted up chicas to snag about 25 WhatsApp numbers from Tinder. They all promised to meet but if I end up closing escrow with a half-dozen, it was worth the time. Will be working the clubs, La Isla (and Gustos, and the couple of casas that I read to be good. Probably hit a strip club or two as well, not really my scene but why not?

I plan to report on my exploits to pay it back for all I gleaned here. Let me know if there's anything else I should be adding to the agenda. Thanks guys!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2659057]

Don has no problem getting 10's.



and this[/QUOTE]Getting (or fucking) 10's or finding 10's? Two different things. Read my prior post again. 50 sounds like a good number but spread out over different cities. Then he has to make them reply, negotiate the price / terms, finally meet in person. I'm awaiting his report, hopefully, with a few photos of his 10's.

[QUOTE=ShamusMcGee1;2659066]I will be in MED in a few days and was wondering if anyone here was also making the trip? I'm staying at the San Peter Apts, got a top floor soundproof room (yeah right). As this is my first trip, was wondering if anyone would want to meet up, I'll buy the beer for your advice!

I have done some homework, lurked a bit as I planned my trip trying to stack the deck in my favor. I invested in a travel safe, bought and configured a secure travel Wi-Fi router, and other mentioned necessities. Also, I successfully chatted up chicas to snag about 25 WhatsApp numbers from Tinder. They all promised to meet but if I end up closing escrow with a half-dozen, it was worth the time. Will be working the clubs, La Isla (and Gustos, and the couple of casas that I read to be good. Probably hit a strip club or two as well, not really my scene but why not?

I plan to report on my exploits to pay it back for all I gleaned here. Let me know if there's anything else I should be adding to the agenda. Thanks guys![/QUOTE]I'm flying tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2658985]As explained to me by several providers, they don't want to wind up on the Internet. A webcam girl I know was fed a line of bullshit by the studio manager. He told her the site is not reachable from Colombia. Her last day as a webcam girl was the day I showed her the site using a spoofed address. She was horrified.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. On all of the webcam sites I'm familiar with the model (or studio) can block access from an entire country. In the US they can block by the state and I think the city in some cases. However, you can get around the block with a VPN, although not all VPNs work on all the sites.

This happened with a model I was working with. Someone from her family found her on the webcam site she used. Both her and her husband came from estrato 6 families. I think the guy was one of her cousins. He told the family and it caused a huge problem for her. She took a month off and came back, but she wasn't the same.

Fortunately, she made enough money to open her own business, very close to Parque Lleras. Last time I talked to her she was doing very well.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2659072]Getting (or fucking) 10's or finding 10's? Two different things. Read my prior post again. 50 sounds like a good number but spread out over different cities. Then he has to make them reply, negotiate the price / terms, finally meet in person. I'm awaiting his report, hopefully, with a few photos of his 10's.[/QUOTE]I already analyzed about situation like yours. You need to be cream of the crop to date cream of the crop. In reality, men likely are dating the lower tier relatively speaking in online dating situation. The reason you are getting it is because you are sharing it. I know someone who does not have problem getting what he wants. He has money but little time so he always line up several girls a day. His deal with girls involves luxury items and cash. When a girl can't make it, the girl introduce another smoking hot girl as replacement. He is not handsome but his generosity makes him the cream of the crop.

So I am wondering why Elvis wears a suit, now it all makes sense.

Have you been to Scandallo? Many think that place has enough 10's. All you have to do is willing to pay for it.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2659013]This is not true unless maybe your referring to the total price including the girl's fee and the hotel. I was just there this morning bro, Hotel Botero Real (the red hotel). It used to be 7 k and now it is 8 k (un rato / half hour) and for an hour it used to be 14 k and now it is 16 k COP.[/QUOTE]I was trying to be helpful but I could have gotten my facts wrong. I was there. I experienced it. My Spanish is good enough to comprehend it. I even asked the chicas I was with at the time if there were different prices on different days, because I did not think their answer made sense the first time and they said "no". Probably, I fucked up. Been known to happen, more than once or twice. I am a Truth Seeker so misinformation cuts me like a knife. Thanks for the help. Lesson learned.

[QUOTE=ElViajero;2659053]After reading all these posts I think what we can agree on is attitude trumps looks by a good margin? I guess the question is how much can a great attitude make up for in the looks department. Don't know about you but doesn't matter how great the attitude is from a glue sniffing anorexic chica from el centro has, there is definitely a line all of us are not willing to cross. Interesting thought though, for my upcoming trip I'm going to make an effort to find the best positive attitude chica I can find regardless of what she looks like. As Mr Eternational says though its almost impossible to tell until you're both but naked in bed but there are some tell tail signs to look out for beforehand.[/QUOTE]He is a rarity around here because he is demonstrating these three constructs at the same time.

Intelligence.

Common sense.

Street smarts.

I bet you will enjoy your time in Medellin. If you add passion or love to the list you will have the time of your life.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2659036]1. We are talking about smoking hot girls, not just "above average".

2. What girls you are talking about? Parque Lleras? El Centro? Sure, when you show up there, all eyes are on you (and your wallet).

3. When she has 2000 men all wanting to fuck her, negotiating a price is indeed difficult.

4. Why do they flake? Her regular just messaged her he is in town wanting to meet. Or a higher offer just came in. Her friend just offered a free photoshoot. Etc, etc, etc. Good looking girls get a lot of attention and benefits, and are very selective for that reason.

How do you define a success? Is merely getting laid a success for you? Sure, picking up El Centro girl for a quick fuck doesn't require much effort. All you need is a dick and 40 mil. For me, a success is when I get what I really want, the way I want (and that is not an average looking chica or lousy service). High effort, high reward.[/QUOTE]1. I know. That's why I said I can easily find 20 above average girls in the time it takes to find an exceptional one. When I'm in Medellin I'm only there for 2 weeks. Usually I am trying to do a lot of things, in addition to getting laid. If I decided to only seek "smoking hot" girls, there's a reasonable chance I would need to give up some of my other interests, just to find a few girls. Then I risk getting ghosted.

2. "I get the attention of 15 girls a week by doing absolutely nothing." Walking around El Centro, or Parque Lleras involves doing something. The girls I'm talking about are mostly on Facebook, although some are on Twitter or Instagram. My pages are out there. Girls either find my page on their own, or one of their friends points them in my direction. These days, I don't do much of anything on social media, but I still get plenty of girls reaching out to me.

3. Yes. That's the point you made, about the difficulty of negotiating a price. Meanwhile, there are plenty of girls who are just a little bit below what you call smoking hot, who have very few guys, at any one time trying to set something up with them. I remember one, who might be considered by many to be smoking hot. A friend recommended her. We talked and she quoted 300 k. I responded with "Siempre pago 200 mil". She asked if I would also give her something for the taxi. 30 seconds or less to settle on the price. Another, recommended by the same friend, told me 150 k. She was smoking hot, body face and performance, but she hadn't been in the business long and wasn't marketing herself.

4. Why they flake doesn't matter. If I'm trying to get an Uber, why I can't get one doesn't help me. I'm not willing to walk 2 miles or wait for 2 hours. I'm going to find a ride from another source.

If we're talking about girls, there are 2 options. The first is to get her interested in you, instead of just relying on the money to get her interested. That has worked many times for me.

The other option is much easier. Just make an offer she can't refuse. If you're only interested in the top shelf girls, then all the difficulties can be handled by paying more.

How do I define success? To begin with, I don't pick up women in El Centro and I've never pulled a woman working in Parque Lleras. I probably would take a woman from Parque Lleras, but I don't really fish in that pond.

Success for me is quite simple. Am I satisfied with the outcome? I don't waste my time trying to decide where it ranks in my list of experiences. I don't bother with figuring out where the girl ranks in appearance to all the women I've been with. I've been fucking for over 40 years. It would be silly to decide that I'm only successful if the girl looks as good as some of the girls I was with in my mid 30's and the performance was equal or better than the ones I consider to be the best.

My philosophy is that I should set myself up to succeed, rather than set myself up to fail. I suppose, if you set yourself to fail and fail 10 times for each success, that success would be fantastic. However, if you set yourself up to succeed, every time is great and some times are fantastic.

That isn't limited to taking only average girls, or ugly girls. You can set yourself up for success with the best looking women and not have to worry about them flaking. In fact, if you approach it correctly, you can have the women you struggle to find now, trying to meet you. The downside is it's expensive, in time and money.

The reason this circular argument about rating systems and beauty is going around and down and endless circular toilet drain with no end in sight is because you can't use logic and reason to describe a topic that is so emotional and subjective. They don't match, like oil and water, or trying to produce a fine art painting with a backhoe.

The attempt is pure and simple, self-validation which not surprisingly, is rampant on a Website with a bunch of fractured male egos hunting pussy. There is nothing inherently wrong or bad about self-validation other than it's totally unnecessary and a waste of time. So be it. Needing approval or even opinions of other persons about what you feel is attractive only stems from self-insecurity, and nothing else. Even if you find like-minded mongerers, it just means now you have a pack of insecure male egos in competition with each other. Ludicrous, but I doubt harmful to others, much.

Anecdotally, my friend said he went out to dinner in Poblado the other night with three high rollers. They were throwing 100 mil COP notes at people and things that cost one-third that. They kept presenting him with chicas they considered a 9 or 10. He said the highest he would have given any of them was a 3.

[QUOTE=ElViajero;2659053]After reading all these posts I think what we can agree on is attitude trumps looks by a good margin? I guess the question is how much can a great attitude make up for in the looks department. Don't know about you but doesn't matter how great the attitude is from a glue sniffing anorexic chica from el centro has, there is definitely a line all of us are not willing to cross. Interesting thought though, for my upcoming trip I'm going to make an effort to find the best positive attitude chica I can find regardless of what she looks like. As Mr Eternational says though its almost impossible to tell until you're both but naked in bed but there are some tell tail signs to look out for beforehand.[/QUOTE]Touche'.

Yes that's what screening via a pre interview is for, I can see what I need in less than 30 seconds f2 f (it doesn't even need a common language) is my process infallible? Hell no.

Scammers will always find ways to feign being sweet, they know what I'm looking for.

But I will say its about 90% effective.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2659120]I already analyzed about situation like yours. You need to be cream of the crop to date cream of the crop. In reality, men likely are dating the lower tier relatively speaking in online dating situation. The reason you are getting it is because you are sharing it. I know someone who does not have problem getting what he wants. He has money but little time so he always line up several girls a day. His deal with girls involves luxury items and cash. When a girl can't make it, the girl introduce another smoking hot girl as replacement. He is not handsome but his generosity makes him the cream of the crop.

So I am wondering why Elvis wears a suit, now it all makes sense.

Have you been to Scandallo? Many think that place has enough 10's. All you have to do is willing to pay for it.[/QUOTE]You don't necessarily have to be the best looking man to get the best looking girls. There are 3 paths to get the best looking women. If you have the money and are willing to spend it, you can buy your way to the top. If you don't have the money, but have the looks, you can get to the top.

Fortunately, there's another way. You can always get the top girls if you can talk with them. That means you need to be able to listen to them and to be interested in what they are saying. While most women will go for a man who has plenty of money, or who is great looking, what they really want is someone who they can really open up to.

I'm not sure if I've told this story here before. I think it started in 2000 and lasted to 2002. I started spending a lot of time at the best local strip club. I spent quite a bit of money, but I didn't spend enough to get the girls to come home with me.

One day there were only a few other customers in the club. One of the top dancers sat down at my table and we started talking. We had some mutual interests and I'm a good listener. She gave me her website address. She was hoping I would pay for some of the videos on her website. Instead I looked it over and looked for ways to make it better. The next time I saw her in the club, I asked questions and gave her some recommendations. From that point on, she always took time to sit and talk with me.

And all I did was talk and listen. I didn't try to get a date or anything else, just normal conversations. Before long other dancers were coming to sit with me. They couldn't figure out why one of the girls who made the most money would be sitting with me. Was I a drug dealer giving free samples? Was I rich? No. But I was a person they could sit with and feel comfortable. The funny thing, I was spending less money than I was spending before.

I ended up getting 5 dancers and 1 waitress in my bed. I went out with another 5 and 4 different dancers rented a room in my house.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2659127]I was trying to be helpful but I could have gotten my facts wrong. I was there. I experienced it. My Spanish is good enough to comprehend it. I even asked the chicas I was with at the time if there were different prices on different days, because I did not think their answer made sense the first time and they said "no". Probably, I fucked up. Been known to happen, more than once or twice. I am a Truth Seeker so misinformation cuts me like a knife. Thanks for the help. Lesson learned.[/QUOTE]I would've expect your Spanish to be great by now. If my French teacher was giving me BJs I would be fluent in French.

[QUOTE=Jimbox;2659307]I would've expect your Spanish to be great by now. If my French teacher was giving me BJs I would be fluent in French.[/QUOTE]Once you're fluent the teacher and the blowjobs go away.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2659311]Once you're fluent the teacher and the blowjobs go away.[/QUOTE]I am not connecting those dots in the same way.

[QUOTE=Jimbox;2659307]I would've expect your Spanish to be great by now. If my French teacher was giving me BJs I would be fluent in French.[/QUOTE]I wonder why? Jajajajajajaaaa.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2659176]...Fortunately, there's another way. You can always get the top girls if you can talk with them...[/QUOTE]In person meeting is different. I am talking about online dating where men get into asymmetry situation like 2000 to 1.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2659327]In person meeting is different. I am talking about online dating where men get into asymmetry situation like 2000 to 1.[/QUOTE]Easy. The first message you should send is, "When can you meet me in Laureles?" If you are in town and ready, that 2000 to 1 goes quickly to about 15 to 1 with one message. Skip the pleasantries.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2659336]Easy. The first message you should send is, "When can you meet me in Laureles?" If you are in town and ready, that 2000 to 1 goes quickly to about 15 to 1 with one message. Skip the pleasantries.[/QUOTE]To clarify, I am referring to this post.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2659036]...When she has 2000 men all wanting to fuck her, negotiating a price is indeed difficult...[/QUOTE]I think you are talking about this.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2658958]...When you have 2,000 women all wanting to see you, negotiating a price is simple....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2659340]To clarify, I am referring to this post.

I think you are talking about this.[/QUOTE]I am talking about getting her attention over the other 1,999.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2659327]In person meeting is different. I am talking about online dating where men get into asymmetry situation like 2000 to 1.[/QUOTE]The same applies. I have several women who I met online and established something more than a simple P4P transaction.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2659355]I am talking about getting her attention over the other 1,999.[/QUOTE]I've covered that in the past. My last trip I flew to Bogota. We were just passing Medellin just after sunset and I had a perfect view of the city, with the streetlights all lit and all the colors in the sky. I snapped a picture and posted it on Facebook. Over the next 2 days 59 Medellin girls liked it and about 25 messaged me, wanting to meet. That's without sending a message to anyone.

I could also just post a question like "Quien quiere visitarme en Poblado" (or Laureles, Envigado wherever) and have 50 to 100 messaging me. There are endless variations on the theme. Post something enticing on Facebook and watch the feeding frenzy begin.

Then you just weed through the ones who responded. And there's always the friend list. Send as many messages as you want. "Hola. Estoy en Medellin esta semana. Como estas? Quiero verte. " Send that to as many as you want. I expect and get about a 70% response rate. 10 messages, 7 dates.

In 15 minutes or less you can easily fill your calendar for the next week.

It gets even easier with repetition. Girls will hit you up wondering when you'll be back. Some will refer you to friends or even cousins and sisters. More girls will send a friend request. I don't even look for girls anymore. On rare occasions there will be one I really want to see, so I'll initiate a conversation. For the majority, I have plenty of regulars and plenty of girls who are contacting me.

If I went back to spend another year in Medellin, I could just see the girls who initiated the conversation with me, have 2 every day and never need to repeat with 1 or go searching for 1.

The great thing is, anyone can do the same thing.

I stopped seeing most 8 and 9's a while back, because I was not getting a great experience for the inflated price they wanted. Basically, I was paying to bang the body, the make-up and the surgeries. I am sure there are exceptions who perform decently with the right guy, but surely at a price. A price which some will pay and some won't if they believe they can get something better with a 6 or 7 (my situation, as I like girls next door, not plastics). I agree that high end girls are often difficult to nail down, as they get a lot of messages, they probably have several sugar daddies, and they just feel like their shit doesn't stink.

While most women do want to fuck, not all of them want to fuck you or me or feel good when fucking for money. Some do, some don't. And there are some women where sex is not important to them (I can think of at least one very well known prepago who does her best to avoid as much sex as she can. And prefer to drink and eat on the gringos dime).

I am glad you have gotten good service from 8's and 9's. I suspect you are in the minority on that one. Of course, your vision of an 8 or 9 might be different from mine, which has been well discussed here.

I would add that most 8's and 9's you find are, in fact, hardened pros. Which goes back to the non-GFE / too many rules / performance issues. How many 8's and 9's are mongers pursuing who are not prepagos / putas / escorts / semi-pros or whatever you want to call them? I agree that if you can find a try 8/9 who is not into sex for money and is not otherwise self-absorbed, you could have a good time. But I don't have that kind of time. I already spend a lot of time cultivating chicas on FB. With some girls, I have met them through cousins or friends and have had to wait years to have them (because of age). But it was worth the wait. Because they were pretty fresh. I am waiting for another who turns 18 in April. Cousin of a girl I was banging quite regularly 4-6 years ago.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2658902]You guys make a wrong assumption thinking that if she is a 9 her performance in bed will definitely suck. This assumption also makes you settle for less without even trying to hit on gorgeous girls. I have not had many 8's and 9's in my life, but I had a few, and never got an attitude or shitty performance from any of them, the best sex in my life, say top 5 in terms of performance, has always been with 8's and 9's. Just imagine, you are fucking a smoking hot girl and she is into you, and the sex is passionate and hot, and you are in heaven. This is what every monger should aim for. The real problem with 8's and 9's is not the performance (why would it be different? Hot or not, they are all human beings and love to fuck), the problem is as follows: 1. They are difficult to find. 2. Once you find them, it is difficult to grab their attention or to get a reply, if online. 3. Once they reply, it is hard to negotiate a price / terms. 4. The last one, it is hard to actually meet in person, because they flake or ghost you. But once you get to that point of meeting, her performance should not be an issue if you treat her right, have a good hygiene, etc. And if GFE is what you are looking for, don't go for escorts and hardened pros, otherwise you will have issues described in the recent post. This doesn't have to do anything with the looks, you could fuck an average looking Parque Lleras girl and get equally shitty service, I think we all have been there, done that. My point is that don't assume just because she is hot, you will get disappointed in bed, just don't bother with escorts.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2659120]I already analyzed about situation like yours. You need to be cream of the crop to date cream of the crop. In reality, men likely are dating the lower tier relatively speaking in online dating situation. The reason you are getting it is because you are sharing it. I know someone who does not have problem getting what he wants. He has money but little time so he always line up several girls a day. His deal with girls involves luxury items and cash. When a girl can't make it, the girl introduce another smoking hot girl as replacement. He is not handsome but his generosity makes him the cream of the crop.[/QUOTE]When I was an American sugar daddy and was down to never be monogamous, and always had may, that would happen a lot. A girl would not just bring a girl in to replace her but show up for a threesome. She enhanced her friendship to the girl by introducing her to me and also putting $$$ in her pocket. However, this was enhanced P4P.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2659120]So I am wondering why Elvis wears a suit, now it all makes sense.[/QUOTE]It would if I tried in the USA but in the USA I was trying to temper down expectations as the women there have no limit to what they would ask for.

I dressed up in the Latin countries and was selling a lifestyle in the Latin countries selling the notion if you go with me, we will stay in hotels like this and eat at high end place and go to high end resorts. It was a notion of if you fuck me, all your dreams will come true and for some girls, it either happened or almost did.

With the American women, they were willing to share. It was just money for sex, but when I took vacations with women in the Latin counties, they were not willing. They wanted it for themselves. Some even had boyfriends and left them behind.

JJBee kind of gets to the truth. There are more ways to attract women that just money and looks, but they are the easiest for them to spot. He even talks about being a safe place for women, and you can get them that way, and I have, but you are not anyone's first choice if you are just safe.

There is a difference between attracting and keeping them. The second part was always easier for me, even when it was just dry sex for money. To keep women, you have to show them a good time.

What do women want? Well, even if the women do not use social media to show off, they want a life where if they posted on social media, it would drive the friends green with envy.

Hello fellow Mongers!

Am a junior monger finally got a pass from wife going to Medellin.

I read la Isla and Loutron have top shelf. Can you share pricing anyone tried it?

Any tips are welcome also will do a quick 2 days in Cartagena.

Thanks.

I'd say you have some power online on Facebook of Tinder in terms of the story you tell with your profile pictures and profile. So it's not always 2000 to one odds with attractive girls if your profile sticks out from the crowd. A good profile enhances what you have to work with and tells a narrative about you will help you stick out. The story you tell could be "I'm rich", or "I'm a world traveler / adventurous", or "I'm edgy" or as many of you do "I live or spend lots of time in Medellin". I was just watching the Tinder Swindler on Netflix last night. It's gives some interesting insights in what grabs some women's attention on tinder etc.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2659327]In person meeting is different. I am talking about online dating where men get into asymmetry situation like 2000 to 1.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RonaldoV7191;2659399]Hello fellow Mongers!

Am a junior monger finally got a pass from wife going to Medellin.

I read la Isla and Loutron have top shelf. Can you share pricing anyone tried it?

Any tips are welcome also will do a quick 2 days in Cartagena.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Get on stripchat that pops up when you log on ISG, my trip is plan for June but been getting WhatsApp numbers from them a couple dudes even message they could get me certain models, and tinder is golden. My next trip is Lisbon in March not getting any love, but them central and South Americans are thirsty. Good Luck.

[QUOTE=RonaldoV7191;2659399]...I read la Isla and Loutron have top shelf. Can you share pricing anyone tried it?
Any tips are welcome also will do a quick 2 days in Cartagena. Thanks.[/QUOTE]All you have to do my friend is read back a couple of pages on this forum, and you will have all the answers you want.

Osteoknot, based on my experience of Latinas, being on the same wavelength as them buys you a lot and explains your recent luck. Jessie seems like a gem. Can you share a bit more about her? Where did you find that little stunner?

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2658933]Some kind of energy nexus point, as yet to be defined. Two more girls came over late and did not expect payment, Scarlet and unbeknownst to me, Super Groovy came-a-knocking on my door after I told Scarlet I wouldn't pay her to visit. I assumed that meant she would not come but I was wrong. That makes six girls in a row. Scarlet has novia status in my line-up so she does not have to be paid but I usually give her at least a hundred mil COP because she is so poor so you can call that one a cheat and I will acquiesce. I still gave Super 40 mil COP for cab fare but she definitely was not expecting it by the expression and sound that came out of her moufus, you know, one of those Scooby Doo's.

So yesterday ended up being a five girl day, way above my average of 3.2 to 3.3 this trip. This really is a different culture here. When Caribe got off her night shift from the Web camming studio this morning, she walked in (I left the door open for her) walked over to my bed, threw the covers back. The first words out of her mouth were, "Why isn't your cock hard?" She then dragged me out of bed, pushed me in the shower before she would have sex with me. I don't know how she knew I had not showered since Scarlet and Super left late last night, but she did. By the time I got out of the shower, she was passed out asleep. Where she is now.

And not to berate the point, but it looks like the 7th girl not expecting payment is coming over later, although I did promise to take her out to eat and to buy her one cute thing to wear, and of course pay taxi. Like a date. And my outlay will be roughly half compared to fair market value of Pay for Play. So of course, there never really is such a thing as "free", we all pay in the end, one way or another.

Why ask why? I am going to ride this wave until it reaches shore and I have no idea how far from the beach I am. Ostee Out and let's Keep On Keepin' On, together. I am running on fumes. Back to the salt mines and time to dig deep..[/QUOTE]

Hi gents,

A fresh apprentice here hoping to gain some practical knowledge. Currently considering a trip back to Colombia late Feb / early March (first visited in Dec 2020).

I'm coming in here with a slightly different angle in the sense that I'm younger than most on here (just hit 30 a month ago) and P4P has been a fantasy of mine for a long time. I'm 6 ft3, in good shape and don't really have issues pulling a girl in a normal way (please don't take it as me being arrogant). I was quite successful during my last trip meeting girls naturally / through Tinder and even met a mixed Colombian / English couple and experienced the best MMF / cuckold fun with them on several occasions (one of the reasons I want to come back to Colombia. I find the women there incredibly sexy in terms of their looks and attitude).

Now, because it is going to be my first mongering experience I'd prefer to meet a girl with the right attitude. A GFE with a hot and feisty Latina, without all the complications and drama of a relationship.

What's the best way of finding the right girl for this? Tinder?

I never see any reference to pages like mileroticos on this forum? What's your experience of using it?

On accommodation, I see most mention hotels. Are there specific reasons you don't feel comfortable using AirBnBs and just bringing the girls to your place?

Lastly, does anyone know the Colombian swinging scene (I'm new to punter lifestyle but definitely not a newbie when it comes to MMF etc.)? Any specific websites / clubs etc that you could recommend? I'd love to experience some group fun again or even possibly a full on GB party on this occasion.

Feel free to send me a pm with any recommendations. All the help will be much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2659127]I was trying to be helpful but I could have gotten my facts wrong. I was there. I experienced it. My Spanish is good enough to comprehend it. I even asked the chicas I was with at the time if there were different prices on different days, because I did not think their answer made sense the first time and they said "no". Probably, I fucked up. Been known to happen, more than once or twice. I am a Truth Seeker so misinformation cuts me like a knife. Thanks for the help. Lesson learned.[/QUOTE]I took a candy girl there yesterday paid 8 k for the rato.

Ended up fucking her raw I didn't even ask if I could I just went straight from cunilingus to sticking my raw dick inside her ended up BBFS anal and I came in her ass and then she gave me a back massage for like 10 mins and then I was like "quiero mas sexo" and she was like "estoy llena de semen" and I was like "te voy a llenar con mas semen" then I fucked her pussy some more and came in her pussy too. Then she showered and I got dressed. Gave her 40 k COP and she was cool with it. I must have been in the room over an hour but they never knocked. Total damage was 48 k COP.

[QUOTE=Recondite;2659428]I'd say you have some power online on Facebook of Tinder in terms of the story you tell with your profile pictures and profile. So it's not always 2000 to one odds with attractive girls if your profile sticks out from the crowd. A good profile enhances what you have to work with and tells a narrative about you will help you stick out. The story you tell could be "I'm rich", or "I'm a world traveler / adventurous", or "I'm edgy" or as many of you do "I live or spend lots of time in Medellin". I was just watching the Tinder Swindler on Netflix last night. It's gives some interesting insights in what grabs some women's attention on tinder etc.[/QUOTE]The number 2000 is from JB and MiamiBoy but it does not matter that much. I am mainly talking about the asymmetric nature of online dating. Use what you said as an example. I simplify it here and assume you look like Brad Pitt. Do you agree that you will get a lot more swipes than an average looking guy? As a result you already have many choices without effort so you become selective and you don't need to swipe too many woman.

A true centro love story! I love it. Good for you man. Maybe I need to head down there and talk to the candy girls. Nice.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2659482]I took a candy girl there yesterday paid 8 k for the rato.

Ended up fucking her raw I didn't even ask if I could I just went straight from cunilingus to sticking my raw dick inside her ended up BBFS anal and I came in her ass and then she gave me a back massage for like 10 mins and then I was like "quiero mas sexo" and she was like "estoy llena de semen" and I was like "te voy a llenar con mas semen" then I fucked her pussy some more and came in her pussy too. Then she showered and I got dressed. Gave her 40 k COP and she was cool with it. I must have been in the room over an hour but they never knocked. Total damage was 48 k COP.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2659482]I took a candy girl there yesterday paid 8 k for the rato.

Ended up fucking her raw I didn't even ask if I could I just went straight from cunilingus to sticking my raw dick inside her ended up BBFS anal and I came in her ass and then she gave me a back massage for like 10 mins and then I was like "quiero mas sexo" and she was like "estoy llena de semen" and I was like "te voy a llenar con mas semen" then I fucked her pussy some more and came in her pussy too. Then she showered and I got dressed. Gave her 40 k COP and she was cool with it. I must have been in the room over an hour but they never knocked. Total damage was 48 k COP.[/QUOTE]I would say "strong work" but you were having too much fun to call it work, jajaja.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2659504]A true centro love story! I love it. Good for you man. Maybe I need to head down there and talk to the candy girls. Nice.[/QUOTE]Yes, the candy girls at the bottom of the heap, literally anything goes with them, and I guess hitting the backdoor without a jimmy hat and blowing loads in them is pretty common.

I've had my share of candy girls, but only opted for the front door with them.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2659482]I took a candy girl there yesterday paid 8 k for the rato.

Ended up fucking her raw I didn't even ask if I could I just went straight from cunilingus to sticking my raw dick inside her ended up BBFS anal and I came in her ass and then she gave me a back massage for like 10 mins and then I was like "quiero mas sexo" and she was like "estoy llena de semen" and I was like "te voy a llenar con mas semen" then I fucked her pussy some more and came in her pussy too. Then she showered and I got dressed. Gave her 40 k COP and she was cool with it. I must have been in the room over an hour but they never knocked. Total damage was 48 k COP.[/QUOTE]If your not the definition of a "Centro Street Rat", I don't know what is.

Most guys show up here, sample the wares in Centro, and the majority of them run for the hills, but a few develop into a street rat after awhile. Meaning they have to earn their whiskers one rato at a time.

However in your case, you basically went for the full Monty with this candy girl, who was all in.

Your probably are already hunting down your next "candy girl", and you might want to try the "coffee girls' as well, but they are not as low on the totem pole as the candy girls.

What you experienced, and did, is not all that uncommon there, albeit I personally wouldn't do everything that you did.

[QUOTE=KinkyEngineer;2659468]Osteoknot, based on my experience of Latinas, being on the same wavelength as them buys you a lot and explains your recent luck. Jessie seems like a gem. Can you share a bit more about her? Where did you find that little stunner?[/QUOTE]Just like Pumpkin, and countless others, she was a random, Ground Zero find, priced at fair market value.

Don't let anyone tell you there is not prime Pickens down there around the Vera Cruz Church. And if you broaden your mind and look at some of the other "types" of girls that don't meet up to your "standards" you will get some of the best performances you can imagine. I like all girl types, body sizes, colors, hair, etc. Of course attitude and personality reign supreme but with a little extra work you can get both.

The trick is to enjoy the journey along the way and not make it so goal oriented. That is one the ways I can tell if I am dealing with an amateur or a professional fellow monger. The seasoned pros who learn from their experiences truly broaden their base on the types of girls they will fuck. They don't "settle" for girls they don't want or lower their standards, but they develop an honest, new appreciation for different types of girls. Win-win.

Of course, the assumption there is that being a "pro" at mongering is a desirable thing, and that is a much more debatable point than any kind of rating system, jajajaaja. Thanks for the input and let's keep this fun while we Keep On Keepin' On.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2659379]......I would add that most 8's and 9's you find are, in fact, hardened pros. Which goes back to the non-GFE / too many rules / performance issues. How many 8's and 9's are mongers pursuing who are not prepagos / putas / escorts / semi-pros or whatever you want to call them?.....[/QUOTE]Another issue I have experienced with 8's or 9's is that their pussies tend to be a bit loose as they would have been banged by many more men than 6's or 7's.

Headed to Colombia in few weeks, was wondering how reliable mileroticos or photoprepagos was? Any stories, cautions, or better sites available to recommend?

Because conceptually, so far none of the posters here have demonstrated they have the ability to understand it. I did not say lack of intelligence, I said ability. I realize this effort will be mostly wasted but if only one or two of you lurkers get it, then it's worth it.

My first response at the start of the Covid epidemic? 2019? I forget, I have time dyslexia.

Anywho, back in the beginning, we held a "Covid Party" among friends. Designed to spread and catch the virus. This worked, about 48 hours later I got sick and I instantly could feel it was unlike any infection I ever had before. The data up until this point was uncorrupted.

This concept is not new. Back in the1950's and even after the Varicella vaccine came out, moms used to have Chicken Pox parties, get everyone cross-infected and then immune in one fell swoop. How many of you all knew that? If you didn't know it, and your mind is not at least partially blown but what I have written, then don't bother reading me any further on this topic.

More to come.

Will let the fotos do the talking.

The chica under the sheets has an optical illusion about where is her head?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2659616]If your not the definition of a "Centro Street Rat", I don't know what is.[/QUOTE]This is mostly opinion but I get the feeling you consider "Centro Street Rat" the bottom tier. Not necessarily the worst, but bottom tier. But she has a job. She is selling candy. She has a fall-back and can make a little money without selling her wet holes. She can be more discerning about who she fucks, or not. So for lack of a better word, she is more "respectable" than a full-time puta Centro Street Rat, or lower still, a glue-sniffer who you have to clean up with a looong hot shower before you do her. Of course, it all depends on the definition of your terms.

[QUOTE=BigMacAlex540;2659652]Headed to Colombia in few weeks, was wondering how reliable mileroticos or photoprepagos was? Any stories, cautions, or better sites available to recommend?[/QUOTE]There may be a link on this website that could be helpful to you. If you had bothered to do any research on your own. Go to Reports of Distinction and read a few pages. That should tell you the basics.

The best psychiatrists in the United States say it is acceptable to talk to yourself. Of course, crazy people do it. But not all the people who talk to themselves are crazy. It's personal, and I only do it around people I trust or love.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2659616]If your not the definition of a "Centro Street Rat", I don't know what is.

Most guys show up here, sample the wares in Centro, and the majority of them run for the hills, but a few develop into a street rat after awhile. Meaning they have to earn their whiskers one rato at a time.

However in your case, you basically went for the full Monty with this candy girl, who was all in.

Your probably are already hunting down your next "candy girl", and you might want to try the "coffee girls' as well, but they are not as low on the totem pole as the candy girls.

What you experienced, and did, is not all that uncommon there, albeit I personally wouldn't do everything that you did.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Can you please give me the run down on these candy and coffee girls, are they all working girls? Is their a difference between the two? I remember reading something about them but can't find, any and all information on this subject will be greatly appreciated! Thanks.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2659616]If your not the definition of a "Centro Street Rat", I don't know what is.

Most guys show up here, sample the wares in Centro, and the majority of them run for the hills, but a few develop into a street rat after awhile. Meaning they have to earn their whiskers one rato at a time.

However in your case, you basically went for the full Monty with this candy girl, who was all in.

Your probably are already hunting down your next "candy girl", and you might want to try the "coffee girls' as well, but they are not as low on the totem pole as the candy girls.

What you experienced, and did, is not all that uncommon there, albeit I personally wouldn't do everything that you did.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the kind words bro. There is no other inspiration in life than to be a centro street rat on the prawl LOL. I'm no newbie in any sense of the word tho, I just don't post everything I do on ISG. Been mongering in Mexico for 10 years (7 of which I've lived in Tijuana). Been mongering in Tijuana, DF (La Merced), Puebla, Chiapas, etc. I started coming to Colombia in 2018 mainly to Santa Fe in Bogota, but I've since expanded into Medellin and cucuta as well. This is like my 5th trip to Medellín and I love el Centro and I love the girls in Plaza Botero. I've yet to go to Poblado or parque lleras, however I've had several lleras girls come to my hotel in centro but I get them to come thru friends of their friends, Facebook, whatsapp etc. I don't always go for the candy girls or coffee girls I actually prefer the vennies that stand around the statues, but it was like 9 am so my options were limited, turned out to be a win win in my book tho.

Gabacho.

[QUOTE=BigMacAlex540;2659652]Headed to Colombia in few weeks, was wondering how reliable mileroticos or photoprepagos was? Any stories, cautions, or better sites available to recommend?[/QUOTE]Heard lots of catfish stories off those two sites. Better to build up a Facebook roster.

After I recovered from my intentional Covid infection from the Covid Party during the first wave of Covid, I waited the appropriate convalescent period (I don't remember exactly how long, weeks, doesn't matter) and had my antibody levels tested. I was very happy with the results which confirmed what I already knew, that I been infected with Covid, and had a healthy immune response. No vaccines available and the data is starting to become imperfect but still useable.

To be continued.

Those pictures creep me out.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2659798]Been mongering . . . for 10 years[/QUOTE]"I didn't get all my whiskers at once". Never heard that one before. Going to steal it and use it, jeje.

[QUOTE=RonaldoV7191;2659399]Hello fellow Mongers!

Am a junior monger finally got a pass from wife going to Medellin.

I read la Isla and Loutron have top shelf. Can you share pricing anyone tried it?

Any tips are welcome also will do a quick 2 days in Cartagena.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I used to be a huge fan of La Isla. $100 USD for a 10. Not so much anymore. A sad mix of crap girls, a few lookers with attitude and hustlers they never had before. Sad! They are overrun by new patrons (mongers. Gringo sex tourists. Bachelor parties. All types) and the 10's have mostly disappeared. The bar has been moved to the back and you will need bottle service or a group purchase of quite a few drinks for a booth. Just like the USA. The place was packed last night. I left after 30 minutes. Boring. Loutron I did not have time for. Guessing more of the same. Good luck. Of course you may like what they offer. It has changed drastically. Sill will cost less than most usa clubs but the hot girls have moved on.

I agree .....these gringo, posses, bachelor party, fraternity groups are ruining the scene in Colombia. Hookers and strippers are degraded these guys take it to another level-- almost like they're acting out rap videos. They are into the spectacle Its s real turn off to the hobby in general. Organized sex tourism is going to be the end of this scene, sooner or later.... And because they don't pay really hot girls are going elsewhere.... As well as the smart ones.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2659918]I used to be a huge fan of La Isla. $100 USD for a 10. Not so much anymore. A sad mix of crap girls, a few lookers with attitude and hustlers they never had before. Sad! They are overrun by new patrons (mongers. Gringo sex tourists. Bachelor parties. All types) and the 10's have mostly disappeared. The bar has been moved to the back and you will need bottle service or a group purchase of quite a few drinks for a booth. Just like the USA. The place was packed last night. I left after 30 minutes. Boring. Loutron I did not have time for. Guessing more of the same. Good luck. Of course you may like what they offer. It has changed drastically. Sill will cost less than most usa clubs but the hot girls have moved on.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kafka;2659857]Those pictures creep me out.[/QUOTE]I am glad those fotos spoke to you. Keep On Keepin' On!

Long time lurker turned member trying to start contributing here.

Appearance age wise (minus the height) I was in your situation when I started 6 yrs ago. ID say it can definitely work to your advantage as some women may actually like your company and stay longer or you can negotiate multi day discounts if you so desire (probably not the hardcore seasoned prepagos though).

Hot feisty in the bed well the thing is performance is never guaranteed but in general Colombians are know to be tender and loving but there are some straight up freaks out there I guess you'd just have to judge by the photos. If you want hot feisty in terms of attitude maybe try Dominican republic LOL but I bet once you do and get hustled out of a lot of money you'll be right back in Colombia LOL.

Tinder can work but I wouldn't suggest that to a first timer ID say it carries slightly more risk than fb girls. Build up a fb list is your best bet. Also you can try Colombian cupid paid membership and pull prepagos, normal young girls that you might be able to bone for cost of a dinner movie and drinks, etc. Its really not that hard especially if you look half decent there is so much supply over there of prepagos and just curious young girls that with a little work you can get good service for a good price or even nothing sometimes. But you said without the drama and complications in a relationship so chose wisely on cupido. The biggest challenge will be trying to make sure the women is really as hot as in her photos LOL. Hardcore prepagos probably arent up for doing video calls LOL while cupido semi normal or normal girls will generally after you warm up to them.

Work on your Spanish though it will pay off many times over.

Mileroticos is not necessary in Medellin you are just taking on more unnecessary risk.

Many of the airbnbs in Medellin are in high rise bldgs so they have security similar to a front desk at a hotel. The trick is finding guest friendly accommodations as many will charge per night for unregistered guests (I suppose this is their way of getting a piece of the action).

San peter hotel in Laureles is an apartment bldg you can find on airbnb for like 30/ night and is guest friendly.

Hotel haven is an upscale hotel in Poblado that is guest friendly as well, they even have jacuzzi rooms.

There are also airbnbs where you just get the key and walk in off the street like in Laureles, seeing that I've been going to Colombia 7 yrs and don't exactly pull randoms I feel comfortable with this while some may not. Of course without security the element if risk is always a little higher.

Checkout liv realty they have some guest friendly places.

Sorry can't help on swinger scene.

Ill be there in March 1-15 maybe whole month you can hit me up.

[QUOTE=KinkyEngineer;2659481]Hi gents,

A fresh apprentice here hoping to gain some practical knowledge. Currently considering a trip back to Colombia late Feb / early March (first visited in Dec 2020).

I'm coming in here with a slightly different angle in the sense that I'm younger than most on here (just hit 30 a month ago) and P4P has been a fantasy of mine for a long time. I'm 6 ft3, in good shape and don't really have issues pulling a girl in a normal way (please don't take it as me being arrogant). I was quite successful during my last trip meeting girls naturally / through Tinder and even met a mixed Colombian / English couple and experienced the best MMF / cuckold fun with them on several occasions (one of the reasons I want to come back to Colombia. I find the women there incredibly sexy in terms of their looks and attitude).

Now, because it is going to be my first mongering experience I'd prefer to meet a girl with the right attitude. A GFE with a hot and feisty Latina, without all the complications and drama of a relationship.

What's the best way of finding the right girl for this? Tinder?.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RacShack;2659778]Hi,

Can you please give me the run down on these candy and coffee girls, are they all working girls? Is their a difference between the two? I remember reading something about them but can't find, any and all information on this subject will be greatly appreciated! Thanks.[/QUOTE]Some information and answers for you as follows:

Any girl in Centro, around "ground zero", with a bag of candy in her hand, is a working girl. They cannot earn a living selling Candy, and are lucky to get a 100 Peso coin from a local for a piece of candy.

In reality, they can be very aggressive in a subtle way. If you watch them, they approach men asking for a "donation" of sorts, which may end up being a load in one, or both of their doors as recently reported.

Typically what I do if I see one of interest is motion them over, or go up to them with a few coins to check out the merchandise.

I have never had one turn me down about going to the room. Albeit, most of the girls selling candy are nothing to write home about, but at times, there will be some pretty ones around, but they are an anomaly, and I've had some great experiences.

As far as the "coffee girls", I will put them in the category of "non-working girls", but with some exceptions. There are literally hundreds of girls selling coffee, and they are selling it to anyone and everyone one they can. All they need is a thermos and some plastic cups. When you see a coffee girl with a single thermos, she has the thermos filled somewhere with coffee which she pays for, and then sells the coffee, and on a normal day will make somewhere between 15 K and 30 K.

So regarding the "exceptions", you have too keep in mind that 30 K is a good pay day for a coffee girl, and if handled properly, and you may have to engage 3-5 girls, some of which will go to the room, but you need to finesses how you bring it up as not insult them, and most girls that won't, will take your advances as a compliment if handled properly.

It's pretty simple, what I have done in the past is purchase a cup of joe from one I'm attracted to, and strike up a conversation. I'll know within a minute if they are available as it will be either offered up by them, or sometimes I ask if they have anything else to offer without being specific, but they all know exactly what I'm referring to, and if I get a wink or smile, time to close the deal.

I hope this information sheds a little more light, at least my take, of the candy and coffee girls in Centro.

So Centro rats can fall in love? LOL!

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2659504]A true centro love story! I love it. Good for you man. Maybe I need to head down there and talk to the candy girls. Nice.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RacShack;2659778]Hi,

Can you please give me the run down on these candy and coffee girls, are they all working girls? Is their a difference between the two? I remember reading something about them but can't find, any and all information on this subject will be greatly appreciated! Thanks.[/QUOTE]You will see them standing around near the normal hookers but they are selling coffee or candy and chicles cigarettes etc. Often not the best looking women, but they are cheaper and have less stupid rules than the normal hookers. You can talk to them and get them to go the short term fuck hotels easy. There's also the metro girls that stand in the stairs of the Parque Berrío metro station.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2660171]You will see them standing around near the normal hookers but they are selling coffee or candy and chicles cigarettes etc. Often not the best looking women, but they are cheaper and have less stupid rules than the normal hookers. You can talk to them and get them to go the short term fuck hotels easy. There's also the metro girls that stand in the stairs of the Parque Berro metro station.[/QUOTE]What is your sample size? 30,40, 50? Of each type, candy and coffee? And don't forget the metro stairs girls. So that makes three groups.

For each group, and in total, what would you guesstimate your sample size to be? Must be at least a hundred?

See foto, I need a pair or scissors to cut the packaging off from the pair of scissors I just bought in El Centro.

Jajajajajaajaa.

Stupid or Genius? Probably neither. It is what it is.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2659482]I took a candy girl there yesterday paid 8 k for the rato.

Ended up fucking her raw I didn't even ask if I could I just went straight from cunilingus to sticking my raw dick inside her ended up BBFS anal and I came in her ass and then she gave me a back massage for like 10 mins and then I was like "quiero mas sexo" and she was like "estoy llena de semen" and I was like "te voy a llenar con mas semen" then I fucked her pussy some more and came in her pussy too. Then she showered and I got dressed. Gave her 40 k COP and she was cool with it. I must have been in the room over an hour but they never knocked. Total damage was 48 k COP.[/QUOTE]Now I am really excited for my visit (Feb 26 - Mar 5), this is the experience I am looking for. Sometimes I just want raunchy, dirty, bb sex and that fits the bill.

[QUOTE=Sargon76;2660186]Now I am really excited for my visit (Feb 26 - Mar 5), this is the experience I am looking for. Sometimes I just want raunchy, dirty, bb sex and that fits the bill.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you had a wet dream upon reading Gabacho's post.

You most definitely are coming to the promised land, where each and every nasty thing you could imagine doing can be done.

Hello gents,

First time to Medellin-will be landing in Bogota 19th from Toronto, but due to MDE airport is closed for maintenance, I was redirected via CTG (over night stay) and reaching MDE on 20th evening and returning back on 25th. Would love to meet fellow mongers if any one available during that time frame for a drink and share some TR's contacts.

1 Booked Hampton Inn Hilton in Cartagena for overnight stay and hope some beach time and night life taste before heading Medellin next time. But I highly doubt will have any energy left after long flight journey (via SAL). Appreciate any leads or quick must do / visit for one night there.

2 total 5 nights stay in Medellin and could not find guaranteed chica friendly accommodation or Airbnb's, hence ended up booking Four point by Sheraton in Poblado (Cra 43 C.

Any feedback on this hotel regarding chica friendly would appreciated.

3 Sight seeing: Planning to visit Gutapo one day, another day comuna 13 via rope way metro, one more day near by waterfall / scenic hiking (Suggestion needed).

4 Entertainment: Mongering activity. First contacted few FB girls (not sure how far will they show).

- Second Looking for good full service massage parlor which is currently opens and good feedback from the members.

- Third, casa (Newlife, Spa Energias, Loutron's).

- Fourth clubs (La Isla, Fase Dos. Gusto) that are recommended by the group.

- The Mansion (if there is any party) will try to stop by to see how is the scene over there.

- Parque Lleras for a quicky during day time.

5 Dentist for regular cleanup and eye test / glasses shopping: appreciate any good leads and approximate price range.

Appreciate any suggestion and / or info or any link that provides the info.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2660111]Some information and answers for you as follows:

Any girl in Centro, around "ground zero", with a bag of candy in her hand, is a working girl. They cannot earn a living selling Candy, and are lucky to get a 100 Peso coin from a local for a piece of candy.

In reality, they can be very aggressive in a subtle way. If you watch them, they approach men asking for a "donation" of sorts, which may end up being a load in one, or both of their doors as recently reported.

Typically what I do if I see one of interest is motion them over, or go up to them with a few coins to check out the merchandise.

I have never had one turn me down about going to the room. Albeit, most of the girls selling candy are nothing to write home about, but at times, there will be some pretty ones around, but they are an anomaly, and I've had some great experiences.

As far as the "coffee girls", I will put them in the category of "non-working girls", but with some exceptions. There are literally hundreds of girls selling coffee, and they are selling it to anyone and everyone one they can. All they need is a thermos and some plastic cups. When you see a coffee girl with a single thermos, she has the thermos filled somewhere with coffee which she pays for, and then sells the coffee, and on a normal day will make somewhere between 15 K and 30 K.[/QUOTE]You and I were talking about two different types of chicas. Yeah, a chica with a small bag of candy is Bottom Tier, like you said. In my other response to you, I was talking about those chicas with a cart they push around. They sell candy, cigarettes, snacks, etc. When they meet someone who they want to fuck, the need and typically have a "friend" who watches their cart for them while they go get their wet holes plumbed.

My buddy even has one of these "candy cart girls" as almost a girlfriend at the moment, a Vennie, and she is far from Bottom Tier in looks, performance, etc. He is thinking about flipping her over to full-time GF but he has not met her minimum requirement yet for number of sessions per week she needs to keep her off the street. I told him it would be somewhere around 2.5 to 3.0 per week at the minimum unless he goes full bore Sugar Daddy on her.

My thought for him was why go to the buffet only to get the same item over and over, even if it is lobster tail? But you know how that goes, you can never tell anyone with unmatched sex chromosomes anything about relationships. They have to find out for themselves. They will work it out. And oh yeah, she has already told him that the three of us will do it together. She says she has never done a three-way before, that she has always wanted to do two guys, and I believe her. For one reason, there is no secondary gain for her to lie about it.

My three-ways are 2 girls and a guy more than 95% of the time, and not two guys and a girl. I've never done a three-way with another guy who I did not already know well. I am not into the bisexual stuff but I am also not going to freak out about being near another naked man. A girl has three-holes and if you are squeamish it's pretty easy to keep it front and back on her, or "run a train" as they say. My favorite way for 2 guys and one girl is also probably the simplest, run a train on her in doggy position, and the guy at the rear switches back and forth between pussy and ass. After one round of ass, you switch ends and make sure the dick that just came out her ass goes into her mouth. Simple. Do laps until someone gives out.

She's very pretty and she seems to be out there for the purpose of finding a boyfriend who will support her. That may sound like a forgone conclusion for these girls but it's not. Pumpkin, my current Ground Zero diamond in rough (right there next to Jessie) has told me "I don't like boyfriends. They are too jealous. I don't do anal, I don't like girls, I want to concentrate on my baby, at that's it."

Ostee Out.

All fotos from yesterday, 5-girl day including Catgirl returned with her novia, Cricket, for the first time since Catgirl's birthday, seen in the shower together. Technically, my freebie string ended at nine. Fun while it lasted and a first time event, but I get the feeling not the last. The nipple is 30 seconds after she had an orgasm. I love those "pencil eraser" nipples.

In my sexual arena, in the past two days, there were three people, two separate times. Each time, the third person was sitting in a chair while Scarlet and I were making love in bed. One was observant and interested. The other was a detached and neutral. I would like to know what that means.

[QUOTE=Sargon76;2660186]Now I am really excited for my visit (Feb 26 - Mar 5), this is the experience I am looking for. Sometimes I just want raunchy, dirty, bb sex and that fits the bill.[/QUOTE]Stay safe.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2658902]The real problem with 8's and 9's is not the performance (why would it be different? Hot or not, they are all human beings and love to fuck)[/QUOTE]I disagree. Some of the really hot ones don't believe that they have to put in much effort, that they can get by on their looks. The 6's and 7's bang a client hard to get repeats and referrals (like others have already mentioned).

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2660319]You and I were talking about two different types of chicas. Yeah, a chica with a small bag of candy is Bottom Tier, like you said. In my other response to you, I was talking about those chicas with a cart they push around. They sell candy, cigarettes, snacks, etc. When they meet someone who they want to fuck, the need and typically have a "friend" who watches their cart for them while they go get their wet holes plumbed.

My buddy even has one of these "candy cart girls" as almost a girlfriend at the moment, a Vennie, and she is far from Bottom Tier in looks, performance, etc. He is thinking about flipping her over to full-time GF but he has not met her minimum requirement yet for number of sessions per week she needs to keep her off the street. I told him it would be somewhere around 2.5 to 3.0 per week at the minimum unless he goes full bore Sugar Daddy on her.

My thought for him was why go to the buffet only to get the same item over and over, even if it is lobster tail? But you know how that goes, you can never tell anyone with unmatched sex chromosomes anything about relationships. They have to find out for themselves. They will work it out. And oh yeah, she has already told him that the three of us will do it together. She says she has never done a three-way before, that she has always wanted to do two guys, and I believe her. For one reason, there is no secondary gain for her to lie about it.

My three-ways are 2 girls and a guy more than 95% of the time, and not two guys and a girl. I've never done a three-way with another guy who I did not already know well. I am not into the bisexual stuff but I am also not going to freak out about being near another naked man. A girl has three-holes and if you are squeamish it's pretty easy to keep it front and back on her, or "run a train" as they say. My favorite way for 2 guys and one girl is also probably the simplest, run a train on her in doggy position, and the guy at the rear switches back and forth between pussy and ass. After one round of ass, you switch ends and make sure the dick that just came out her ass goes into her mouth. Simple. Do laps until someone gives out.

She's very pretty and she seems to be out there for the purpose of finding a boyfriend who will support her. That may sound like a forgone conclusion for these girls but it's not. Pumpkin, my current Ground Zero diamond in rough (right there next to Jessie) has told me "I don't like boyfriends. They are too jealous. I don't do anal, I don't like girls, I want to concentrate on my baby, at that's it."

Ostee Out.

All fotos from yesterday, 5-girl day including Catgirl returned with her novia, Cricket, for the first time since Catgirl's birthday, seen in the shower together. Technically, my freebie string ended at nine. Fun while it lasted and a first time event, but I get the feeling not the last. The nipple is 30 seconds after she had an orgasm. I love those "pencil eraser" nipples.[/QUOTE]5-girl day! Is that too much? What would be your upper limit? I would definitely try a 5-day girl but I would make sure I have my will is in order.

[QUOTE=Jimbox;2660488]5-girl day! Is that too much? What would be your upper limit? I would definitely try a 5-day girl but I would make sure I have my will is in order.[/QUOTE]Caribe is pushing me because she gives me a jump start every morning when she gets off her night shift and comes to me. She is sleeping next to me as I type this.

I just tested her Puta Reflex by putting the tip of my dick on her sleeping lips and she did not automatically start sucking, instead she startled. My Numero Uno novia Catgirl has it. My ex-wife had it. I am not sure of the prevalence in the general female population but I considered it rare enough to give it a name, The Puta Reflex.

My average this trip is in the low 3's, three point two or three point three, chicas per day, somewhere in there.

My single day record is in the single digits, but if I was really trying to break some meaningless record like that, I would schedule a bunch of 3-ways and 4-ways. Or you could just do one orgy and smash the record. I tend not to count number of chicas but I think about how many wet holes I penetrated in one day. 3 obvious holes per chica and if you want to include handjobs that would make four holes. I don't use "lines" on chicas except I will tell the new ones before we get started, "You have three holes, I need at least two. You can decide which two. " The answers are often unexpected.

Fuck, I just remembered Rio. 8 girls in one day, but five of them were at the same time. So when does it become an orgy? I don't know what the definition or threshold is for that, jaja.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2659918]I used to be a huge fan of La Isla. $100 USD for a 10. Not so much anymore. A sad mix of crap girls, a few lookers with attitude and hustlers they never had before. Sad! They are overrun by new patrons (mongers. Gringo sex tourists. Bachelor parties. All types) and the 10's have mostly disappeared. The bar has been moved to the back and you will need bottle service or a group purchase of quite a few drinks for a booth. Just like the USA. The place was packed last night. I left after 30 minutes. Boring. Loutron I did not have time for. Guessing more of the same. Good luck. Of course you may like what they offer. It has changed drastically. Sill will cost less than most usa clubs but the hot girls have moved on.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the feedback. What would you recommend. I want a good value / quality girls.

Any tips will appreciate I guess la Isla drove the good ones away maybe covid related.

I'm trying to figure out why I would even think about responding to your question. .

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2660395]In my sexual arena, in the past two days, there were three people, two separate times. Each time, the third person was sitting in a chair while Scarlet and I were making love in bed. One was observant and interested. The other was a detached and neutral. I would like to know what that means.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2660281]Sounds like you had a wet dream upon reading Gabacho's post.

You most definitely are coming to the promised land, where each and every nasty thing you could imagine doing can be done.[/QUOTE]Surfer500,

Hell yeah, I got over two years of pent up energy, haven't done anything since that start of the pandemic and I am jonesing for my Pattaya fix. I am looking forward to this trip so much, I am preparing, researching, upping my TRT dose, the works. I am going to be a sexual Tyrannosaurus!

Osteoknot I will take the most calculated of risks! But remember every dead body on Mt. Everest was once a highly motivated person. But they died doing what they love and a sick as it seems to my "normal" buddies, I love fucking bar girls. I am hoping that I will enjoy the chickas and putas in Colombia as much as the girls in Pattaya!

On a more serious note, I will be careful and I truly appreciate your expression of concern!

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2658902]You guys make a wrong assumption thinking that if she is a 9 her performance in bed will definitely suck. This assumption also makes you settle for less without even trying to hit on gorgeous girls. I have not had many 8's and 9's in my life, but I had a few, and never got an attitude or shitty performance from any of them, the best sex in my life, say top 5 in terms of performance, has always been with 8's and 9's. Just imagine, you are fucking a smoking hot girl and she is into you, and the sex is passionate and hot, and you are in heaven. This is what every monger should aim for. The real problem with 8's and 9's is not the performance (why would it be different? Hot or not, they are all human beings and love to fuck), the problem is as follows: 1. They are difficult to find. 2. Once you find them, it is difficult to grab their attention or to get a reply, if online. 3. Once they reply, it is hard to negotiate a price / terms. 4. The last one, it is hard to actually meet in person, because they flake or ghost you. But once you get to that point of meeting, her performance should not be an issue if you treat her right, have a good hygiene, etc. And if GFE is what you are looking for, don't go for escorts and hardened pros, otherwise you will have issues described in the recent post. This doesn't have to do anything with the looks, you could fuck an average looking Parque Lleras girl and get equally shitty service, I think we all have been there, done that. My point is that don't assume just because she is hot, you will get disappointed in bed, just don't bother with escorts.[/QUOTE]Not to mention they know their worth. So if you're trying to see them on a weekend they have their options.

I've never had an issue with performance with the 8's+.

I'm very direct about what I want so it's never been a problem.

If this is strictly for mongering purposes then it's going to be hard to get them for 300 mil.

They have a string of guys lined up at 100 usd and up. And their pussy goes to the highest bidder or they gamble on weekends going to gringo spots to pick up a date. Any? Because they already know based on their past experience it will work out on their favor.

Once they have enough in rotation all thinking they are the only one and enough western union to collect they take a break.

And if they need fast cash they always have the option of going to Lleras.

This is why it's hard to get a hold of them and hard to actually see them.

Weekend warriors come and fall in love and onto the next.

This is the game the girls are playing which is why in order to get the attention of a 8-9 you must be willing to spend the big $$.

The other option is to find one that would prefer an exclusive relationship.

The downside to this?? Be prepared for fierce jealousy and overwhelming messages and calls.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2660395]In my sexual arena, in the past two days, there were three people, two separate times. Each time, the third person was sitting in a chair while Scarlet and I were making love in bed. One was observant and interested. The other was a detached and neutral. I would like to know what that means.[/QUOTE]The disinterested girl is the standard issue Colombian trio, without the switch. The interested girl is the standard issue Colombian trio when the other girl has no data and doesn't have the WiFi password.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2660603]Not to mention they know their worth. So if you're trying to see them on a weekend they have their options.

I've never had an issue with performance with the 8's+.

I'm very direct about what I want so it's never been a problem.

If this is strictly for mongering purposes then it's going to be hard to get them for 300 mil.

They have a string of guys lined up at 100 usd and up. And their pussy goes to the highest bidder or they gamble on weekends going to gringo spots to pick up a date. Any? Because they already know based on their past experience it will work out on their favor.

Once they have enough in rotation all thinking they are the only one and enough western union to collect they take a break.

And if they need fast cash they always have the option of going to Lleras.

This is why it's hard to get a hold of them and hard to actually see them.

Weekend warriors come and fall in love and onto the next.

This is the game the girls are playing which is why in order to get the attention of a 8-9 you must be willing to spend the big $$.

The other option is to find one that would prefer an exclusive relationship.

The downside to this?? Be prepared for fierce jealousy and overwhelming messages and calls.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. However some forum members are being delusional, saying they have to do nothing to get an attention from an 8 or 9. Just set up a profile on SA / FB / Tinder, tag your location and 2000 hottest girls in town will fight for an opportunity to meet you. Ironically, these members do not believe in 1-10 scale or use it, therefore their 8's and 9's might not be what me and you think they are.

PS Just today one SA girl, very attractive, probably 8.5/10,quoted 400 USD for TLN. I did not care to negotiate. Next!

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2660605]Totally agree...[/QUOTE]Where do you put her in your scale?

[URL]https://instagram.com/isscarletspring?utm_medium=copy_link[/URL]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2660611]Where do you put her in your scale?

[URL]https://instagram.com/isscarletspring?utm_medium=copy_link[/URL][/QUOTE]She is not my body type, too thick, but regardless of that, I would put her in the 8 to 8. 5 tops range. My 9+ is below.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/valentivitell/?hl=en[/URL]

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2660605]Totally agree. However some forum members are being delusional, saying they have to do nothing to get an attention from an 8 or 9. Just set up a profile on SA / FB / Tinder, tag your location and 2000 hottest girls in town will fight for an opportunity to meet you. Ironically, these members do not believe in 1-10 scale or use it, therefore their 8's and 9's might not be what me and you think they are.

PS Just today one SA girl, very attractive, probably 8.5/10,quoted 400 USD for TLN. I did not care to negotiate. Next![/QUOTE]You can use my name. However, it's better if you just quote me, instead of making things up.

I'll clarify it for you. 3 of my friends spend quite a bit of time in Medellin. They're all experienced mongers, more experienced than I am. Myself, I prefer short girls. I've had girls from about 4'10" up to 6'2", but under 5'3" is my favorite.

One friend prefers tall girls. Give him a long, lean woman and he's happier. The next prefers black women. The last one likes white women.

If we each brought our favorite and lined them up, we would probably all agree all are attractive, but we would rate them all differently. If we add the favorites of 20 more mongers, we would have 10 or more opinions on which is the most attractive.

In the end it doesn't matter. Whether you think someone else is only fucking ugly women doesn't affect how anyone enjoys themselves. Last time I checked your approval is not required.

Sangnyc brought up the same point I did. If you're not offering the price they expect, you're going to spend your time jerking off.

I hadn't realized candy girls were P4P, had assumed they sold candy to not sell pussy.

But why are they "bottom tier"? Some I've seen are the hottest, most animated girls around.

Also, how do the metro girls differ from the Botero girls? I figured they just preferred to sit there, hadn't imagined there was some sort of difference or hierarchy (other than perhaps sitting by the metro is more deniable were someone to see them).

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2660604]The disinterested girl is the standard issue Colombian trio, without the switch. The interested girl is the standard issue Colombian trio when the other girl has no data and doen't have the WiFi password.[/QUOTE]And the interested party was focused because he was a male friend who just happened to be here. I didn't specify in the question but you assessed correctly that the disinterested party was a Colombian chica, and sort of random.

The bored chica was here at The Nutti banging another John. I had fucked her before and she knew my girl. So she stopped by to say "Hi" and didn't leave when I started going to town on my chica. She made a motion briefly like she was going to take off her clothes and join in but I wasn't in the mood and I knew she would expect payment. So I said, "Gracias, no, estoy feliz with mi chica solo."

Her trick was a gringo and he gave her these chocolates as a regalo, see foto. Ahh, good ol' trusty Kirkland. Good gift. She said her kids would eat them but that she was allergic to chocolate, jaja. She left me a cup full of the chocolates in my fridge that I did not notice until after the girls left together. I gave my girl 100 mil COP for the sex and gave them 40 mil total for them to share a taxi, they did not live close together.

Yeah, and your answer is the reason a lot of guys report dissatisfaction when they first start trying Pay for Play trios with girls they don't know. Thanks for playing.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2660617]She is not my body type, too thick, but regardless of that, I would put her in the 8 to 8. 5 tops range. My 9+ is below.
[/QUOTE]I give her a 4. 4.5 tops.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2660653]I give her a 4. 4.5 tops.[/QUOTE]Nobody cares what you give her.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2660657]Nobody cares what you give her.[/QUOTE]Women give us men ratings too.

In Philippines, Angeles City, the girls usually rate the Japanese guys as 3 X3 X3. Which means 3 inch dick, comes in 3 seconds and wants to pay 300 pesos.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2660617]She is not my body type, too thick, but regardless of that, I would put her in the 8 to 8. 5 tops range. My 9+ is below.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/valentivitell/?hl=en[/URL][/QUOTE]I am not sure if your rating is realistic in P4 P. I happen to know someone fucked one like her and I just dug out the picture to make sure. LOL. I think that body type is rare regardless rating.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2660657]Nobody cares what you give her.[/QUOTE]No one gives a FK about your ridiculous system either.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2660661]I am not sure if your rating is realistic in P4 P. I happen to know someone fucked one like her and I just dug out the picture to make sure. LOL. I think that body type is rare regardless rating.[/QUOTE]Not to mention photoshopping work. One cannot tell much until you actually meet the girl and verify how real she is.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2660605]Totally agree. However some forum members are being delusional, saying they have to do nothing to get an attention from an 8 or 9. Just set up a profile on SA / FB / Tinder, tag your location and 2000 hottest girls in town will fight for an opportunity to meet you. Ironically, these members do not believe in 1-10 scale or use it, therefore their 8's and 9's might not be what me and you think they are.

PS Just today one SA girl, very attractive, probably 8.5/10,quoted 400 USD for TLN. I did not care to negotiate. Next![/QUOTE]What is the point of all this? What is the shared outcome that produces results you can't get on your own? What is the utility of this exercise in futility? (that rhymes. Jeje, I might be rapping, jaja). I want to understand it but I can't. I have met you a couple of times and you seemed like a reasonable, intelligent guy. That adds a lot of credence to your viewpoints compared to some anonymous, faceless, Internet No-Account.

Thanking you in Advance.

Ostee Out.

Fotos all from today. Two different chicas shown. I had the one girl masturbate herself in froggy position while I sat between her legs and splooged on one of her feet. I don't think I ever did that before. Not sure. I like to keep it fresh and interesting, when possible. Oh yeah, when we were done she asked me out on a date, to a disco, for dancing, in the near future. I was flattered but I will diplomatically make it clear to her up front that I am not paying for her time on the date. I don't think she is expecting me to do that. I will be more than willing to pay for sex after the date and that sounds like fun, we'll see how that plays out.

JFC, just think if dating was like that in the USA how much fun that would be. Imagine if the cultural norm was you go out on a date, you pay the chica a little extra at the end if you wanted to, and then you are guaranteed to get laid, without all the stigma and bullshit that gets attached. That would be awesome.

If I had asked her out on the date instead of her asking me, I would expect to pay for her time, at least at first.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2660663]Not to mention photoshopping work. One cannot tell much until you actually meet the girl and verify how real she is.[/QUOTE]He is providing his reference point so it does not matter in that sense.

[QUOTE=Sargon76;2660602]I am going to be a sexual Tyrannosaurus!

Osteoknot I will take the most calculated of risks! But remember every dead body on Mt. Everest was once a highly motivated person. But they died doing what they love and a sick as it seems to my "normal" buddies, I love fucking bar girls. I am hoping that I will enjoy the chickas and putas in Colombia as much as the girls in Pattaya![/QUOTE]If I Die Tomorrow I Die a Happy Man!

I like your attitude and altitude.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2660663]Not to mention photoshopping work. One cannot tell much until you actually meet the girl and verify how real she is.[/QUOTE]Other than that spectacular natural body I have yet to see a girl in person look as hot as these girls look on Instagram all dolled up. She may look that then she takes the make-up off and she back to looking basic to me. There are levels to basic beauty as I'm not saying they instantly become unattractive. I'm just saying I have yet to meet a natural (no make-up) beauty in person on the level of what you see them portrayed like on whatever media of choice you use. I'm still young though and I have plenty of continents to visit once I get these South American Latinas out of my system. That might take some years though as I'm addicted.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2660611]Where do you put her in your scale?

[URL]https://instagram.com/isscarletspring?utm_medium=copy_link[/URL][/QUOTE]She's a 1 on her best day.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2660662]No one gives a FK about your ridiculous system either.[/QUOTE]I care, cause it's true. He's being real, unlike the delusional mongers that think they're smashing 8-9's in el centro LOL.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2660319]My favorite way for 2 guys and one girl is also probably the simplest, run a train on her in doggy position, and the guy at the rear switches back and forth between pussy and ass. After one round of ass, you switch ends and make sure the dick that just came out her ass goes into her mouth. Simple. Do laps until someone gives out.[/QUOTE]LMAO you are so sick and funny.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2660611]Where do you put her in your scale?

[URL]https://instagram.com/isscarletspring?utm_medium=copy_link[/URL][/QUOTE]She is one of the hottest girls I've met in medellin. A web cam girl who lives in Envigado. I hung out with her once and she is hot in person. Only negative on her is she's short prob barely 5 ft. But gorgeous nonetheless. She drives her own Mercedes and prob makes a lot of $$.
However time hasn’t been kind to her. She’s gained a lot of weight and it doesn’t fit her frame to be honest. But still very pretty. But when I saw her she was an absolute 9.

So realistically how much does one need to fork up to have a night with her??

This is the point many fail to realize.

The top tier girls in Medellin as far as looks will not suck dick for 300 mil.

If service is more important than yes you can absolutely find gems.

But if you need arm candy or top tier physical beauty the chances of hitting those for mongering purposes are close to 0 unless you fork up serious cash or meet them at casual places.

These girls are making 2-3 k usd a month on onlyfans and webcams. Some make much more.

But at the end of the day whether you spend 10 $ or 1000 $ to each their own.

[QUOTE=Alaska1986;2660027]Long time lurker turned member trying to start contributing here[/QUOTE]I hope I am not labeling you with a moniker you resent, but what I call a pro at mongering, is what you are doing. I can learn a lot from you, glad to hear you will be posting more.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2660662]No one gives a FK about your ridiculous system either.[/QUOTE]I use the same Miamiboy's system and it work to fuck the most beautiful non-pro in Med.

I am telling Caribe not to come this morning because Catgirl is getting vaccinated as I write this. Catgirl is coming over after she gets stuck. She waited this long to get the vaccine because she has almost what amounts to a phobia to needles, and like me, she caught Covid early and has some natural conferred immunity. We're going somewhere fun on the moto today, as yet to be determined.

Caribe told me she made $12 USD last night. Not enough to live on. These Web cam models' income varies widely among them and night to night. My wild guesstimate is probably the Top Ten percent make a living at it, some good. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] The rest barely get by or drop out in less than a year. Or go in and out of the business.

Caribe is definitely not one of the superstars, although she is known for squirting. That can't feel good to put in a full shift and come home with money like that. I logged on one night and she was sleeping with the fuck machine dildo inside her. I wanted to wake her up by tipping her and activating the fuck machine, but I could not bring myself to do it even though I know she would have welcomed the tip.

I am going to do something nice for her soon. I have given her taxi fare every time she has been here, maybe skipped one morning. She is one of those girls who if you even mention the idea that you are paying her for sex, she gets upset. Very upset. Go figure.

Foto is the first frame of a video she sent me this morning of her view of the room in the studio where she works. The computer screen is very large, so she can read it from across the room. The circular light is one of the first things a model will buy if she is independent, after the computer, and the camera. You see those lights sold all over Medellin. Colombia supposedly has more Web cam models per capita than any other country in the world, although I do not believe there are any official statistics being kept, not sure.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2660725]She is one of the hottest girls I've met in medellin. A web cam girl who lives in Envigado. I hung out with her once and she is hot in person. Only negative on her is she's short prob barely 5 ft. But gorgeous nonetheless. She drives her own Mercedes and prob makes a lot of $$.
However time hasnt been kind to her. Shes gained a lot of weight and it doesnt fit her frame to be honest. But still very pretty. But when I saw her she was an absolute 9.

So realistically how much does one need to fork up to have a night with her??

This is the point many fail to realize.

The top tier girls in Medellin as far as looks will not suck dick for 300 mil.

If service is more important than yes you can absolutely find gems.

But if you need arm candy or top tier physical beauty the chances of hitting those for mongering purposes are close to 0 unless you fork up serious cash or meet them at casual places..[/QUOTE]10-15 years ago a hot girl (she isn't hot by my standards but then again I like them fit like Ariana Grande) would have been able to be had for 300 mils probably less with no negotiation necessary. But these s1 mps have made these women westernized. You can't expect one's own self-value to not increase in correlation to their popularity and therefore increased options. Now, these same women do expect 500 USD. You go to places like Dubai and Brazil and the top-level escorts are getting thousands and hour from millionaire athletes and entertainers. The good thing is at the end of the day there are way more women than there are men on this planet so there's always a hot little thing who just turned 18 who hasn't been spoiled yet. The bad thing about that is it seems to be quite common for guys to travel and risk prison time because some of these 18-year-olds already be spoiled. Oh well, it's a numbers game at the end of the day.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2660725]
So realistically how much does one need to fork up to have a night with her??

The top tier girls in Medellin as far as looks will not suck dick for 300 mil.

..[/QUOTE]Offer her 50 k for 30 minutes. If she says no, move on to one that will. Anything over half an hour is a waste if time anyway. I'm.

You are my spirit animal!

[QUOTE=JustTK;2660802]Offer her 50 k for 30 minutes. If she says no, move on to one that will. Anything over half an hour is a waste if time anyway. I'm.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2660722]LMAO you are so sick and funny.[/QUOTE]IKR? Glad you feel me.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2660720]Unlike the delusional mongers that think they're smashing 8-9's in el centro LOL.[/QUOTE]Jajajajjajajaaa.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2660708]I'm addicted.[/QUOTE]Groucho Marx said it best, "I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member".

Jajajajajaaaa. Dios Mio!

My last trip was 9.5 months ago, so my Claro number is probably dead. Is there a place to get a SIM card in MDE airport?

TIA.

What about hanging out? Going on dates and spending a day or a few days with a girl? How do you do that if you want more than just sex?

[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2660660]Women give us men ratings too.

In Philippines, Angeles City, the girls usually rate the Japanese guys as 3 X3 X3. Which means 3 inch dick, comes in 3 seconds and wants to pay 300 pesos.[/QUOTE]And good inside info. Except I thought it was Koreans and not Japanese, jajaja.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2660669]What is the point of all this? What is the shared outcome that produces results you can't get on your own? What is the utility of this exercise in futility? (that rhymes. Jeje, I might be rapping, jaja). I want to understand it but I can't. I have met you a couple of times and you seemed like a reasonable, intelligent guy. That adds a lot of credence to your viewpoints compared to some anonymous, faceless, Internet No-Account.

Thanking you in Advance.

Ostee Out.

[/QUOTE]You don't need to be educated, you are doing your thing, you have your own ranking system in place / stable of girls and you seem to not care about what others think and enjoy your life. I'm not questioning you what's the point of your daily posts and countless number of random pics, I don't see any value in any of them, is it just bragging? I guess some ISG members find your posts entertaining. I'm not the one who invented 1-10 scale, it has been around for years, if you don't like it or don't use it, doesn't mean that others won't. Further arguments about it are pointless. What I was trying to say is that scoring a true 8 or 9 (okay, lets forget numbers, and use adjectives. Stunning, gorgeous, beautiful, etc. Pick any you like) requires a shit ton of work, time, money and luck and is not an easy task. Read BlackTought's recent post, he articulated my point very well.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2660877]You don't need to be educated, you are doing your thing, you have your own ranking system in place / stable of girls and you seem to not care about what others think and enjoy your life. I'm not questioning you what's the point of your daily posts and countless number of random pics, I don't see any value in any of them, is it just bragging? I guess some ISG members find your posts entertaining. I'm not the one who invented 1-10 scale, it has been around for years, if you don't like it or don't use it, doesn't mean that others won't. Further arguments about it are pointless. What I was trying to say is that scoring a true 8 or 9 (okay, lets forget numbers, and use adjectives. Stunning, gorgeous, beautiful, etc. Pick any you like) requires a shit ton of work, time, money and luck and is not an easy task. Read BlackTought's recent post, he articulated my point very well.[/QUOTE]Glad I asked the question. And you did edumucate me whether you realize it or not! Jajajaja. So Kool.

I'll take some flak for this. But hell, I haven't made many friends on the MDE board anyway. So take my opinion as just that. A subjective opinion.

On my most recent trip in January, I stayed at the mansion. Hotel M. Hotel MSAS. I know some have been tripped up by the various names. I went with low expectations and thanks to the many contributors, I understood the game there. It's easy mongering. For those that speak no Spanish or live in fear of walking the streets, this can't be beat. Myself, I probably should be more fearful; I take stupid, unnecessary risks often. And I speak enough Spanish to keep me out of trouble or at least function well enough to get around. So the benefits of the mansion weren't exactly a need of mine. My plan was to have that be my home base, anything I did there was gravy. But my main options were to be Lleras and Gusto. (Yes, another reason to blast me, but again. Just my preference.).

I will tell you, after my visit, I think the mansion is undervalued. It is absolutely a beginner's paradise. And I'm not exactly an old veteran of Colombia. But I believe it has great value for even the most experienced person.

The hotel is nice, if not a bit difficult to find. Most taxi drivers needed help, despite it being just a block or so off a main road. The accommodations are decent. I would equate it to a 2 star hotel by US standards. The bed was not luxurious but if you aren't looking for 5 star accommodations, you won't be disappointed. It is clean. The setup, with girls at the pool or the bar, are fantastic. The employees at the mansion are unbelievable. You want for nothing. They will help you with anything. They just blew me away with their level of service. All done with a genuine smile. I cannot say enough about how helpful they are.

Another thing I mostly enjoyed was the camaraderie among the hombres. I have never gone to a place like this and I always travel alone. Like most, I suspect, this is my "other life". So I was a bit apprehensive about chatting it up with other guys. But, surprisingly, I greatly enjoyed that aspect. Maybe my expectations were off but that was a great experience.

As many have mentioned, there is a pool during the day where you can meet some chicas. You can hang out there or you can obviously go to your room. When you are hanging out, do not expect anything but flirting. But that is definitely something I enjoy so it was great. I prefer getting to know the girl and you certainly have ample opportunity to do that.

Pricing. I was told by a fellow monger "we set the price at 200 K." I asked him how long that is and basically, that is one pop but highly negotiable. My experience is that ymmv on pricing. I got to know the girls and ended up paying much less than $200 k per hour. (I prefer longer dates.). The highest I paid was $500 K and that was for basically a 24 hour, whatever you want party.

Availability. If there was a negative, at the mansion, I would say that the number of girls available varies widely. During the day at the pool, in my experience, that number would vary between 4 and up to about 15. At night, there is a club adjacent to the hotel. The volume varied between 10 and about 40. The club experience for me was very spotty. Most times I went in there, it was depressing. Girls lined the couches on the side and it was almost awkward. But, on Friday night, it was awesome. The club is very dark and not particularly fancy. It's pretty bare bones, actually. But the vibe that Friday night was a great party. I met alot of girls. The overall quality of the girls that night seemed significantly higher. So it could be a weekday vs weekend thing.

Quality of the chicas. This is impossibly subjective, of course. But I would rate the girls from 5's-8's. I did not see a 9 come through there at any point. So if you are a trophy hunter, this might not suit your game. And I would categorize the girls as more of the girl next door type. I felt like most of them were pretty honest, comfortable. I never got a shark feeling from any of them. But again, I think getting to know them helps avoid that transactional experience.

Transportation. As others have mentioned, it's a very hilly area. I stayed in M1. M2 is nearby but that hill is steep. It's in a nice, walkable neighborhood. But I'm a fat ass. I walked the hills and if I can, so can you. But just know that it is steep. As for the taxis, as I mentioned earlier, when I was out and about town, I never found a taxi that was familiar with Hotel M. Tip: they have business cards right at the front counter. It includes a map. Keep one with you and you won't have a problem.

Surroundings. There are plenty of shops, grocery stores, pharmacies and restaurants in the area. The Santa Fe mall is close, within walking distance. The hotel is maybe a mile east of Lleras. (Maybe less) But it is walkable. I did the walk late at night / early morning and never felt unsafe. This by no means is anything to do with the mansion. But my last night, maybe 4 AM, I was awakened by a very significant shootout. (I slept with the windows open on the 2nd floor.) It sounded maybe a couple miles away. But it was prolonged. I look at it as a good reminder to keep your awareness up.

Last piece of advice. Cost of the room. You can definitely find less expensive accommodations. And if that's most important to you, don't bother with the mansion. Their best rooms are under $100 per night. (I'd encourage anyone to get the best room you can.) But all things considered, I felt very good with the price I paid.

Again, to each their own. And kudos to those that have explained the mansion on this board. Based on that, I chalked it up to a beginner's playground. But using it as a base and not the only place to shop? I like. I like it so much I booked again for next month.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2660669]What is the point of all this? ...[/QUOTE]With these two and your stable of girls, assume everything else being equal, the only difference among them is appearance. Who would you pick to have sex with if you only have enough time to have sex with one?

https://instagram.com/isscarletspring?utm_medium=copy_link

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/valentivitell/?hl=en[/URL]

I think you should start your only fan channel to help out the girls to get paid for it. 😉.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2660908]With these two and your stable of girls, assume everything else being equal, the only difference among them is appearance. Who would you pick to have sex with if you only have enough time to have sex with one?

https://instagram.com/isscarletspring?utm_medium=copy_link

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/valentivitell/?hl=en[/URL]

I think you should start your only fan channel to help out the girls to get paid for it. 😉.[/QUOTE]I would not pick Valenti. There are many girls in Medellin that are way better looking and are easily available. I like Scarlet.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2660908]With these two and your stable of girls, assume everything else being equal, the only difference among them is appearance. Who would you pick to have sex with if you only have enough time to have sex with one?

https://instagram.com/isscarletspring?utm_medium=copy_link

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/valentivitell/?hl=en[/URL]

I think you should start your only fan channel to help out the girls to get paid for it..[/QUOTE]I would flip a coin. I would look for chemistry, I would look in their eyes, but you said everything else was equal, so toss of a coin and I guarantee you I would not be disappointed.

I must have reported at least three times the Peruvian restaurant in the food court at ground level in The Nutibarra hotel was an excellent choice. That is no longer true. The Colombian restaurant next to it is drawing customers 9-1 over the Peruvian restaurant. I ate there today. In the foto, the Colombian buffet restaurant is on the left, and the Peruvian restaurant is on the right. The Colombian restaurant isn't just better, the Peruvian restaurant got worse.

Tall Man finds the best ones. He also takes better pictures. I've got an incredibly hot one from Bucaramanga who wants to come spend time with me at the beach. But I'm not really sure how to handle the negotiation or if I really want her around that much. I've got things I like to do and women can become a distraction. She's very sweet and good looking.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2660919]I would not pick Valenti. There are many girls in Medellin that are way better looking and are easily available. I like Scarlet.[/QUOTE]

The first vaccine was released after I was fully recovered from my intentional Covid infection. The was only expert opinion available, no data, on what people should do who had recovered from Covid. The expert recommendation was to get vaccinated. I happened to agree, not coincidentally also being an expert. Experts get it wrong all the time, but this time they got it right.

No matter, I had already decided that my motivation for vaccination was purely and mainly to facilitate international travel. I predicted vaccination cards for Covid would become like "passports. " I got my first vaccine at a free drive-up vaccine station manned by nurses and national guard. I couldn't find my ID but they vaccinated me anyway.

That is a tough call. Whether to take a chica with you on a trip. I have done it. Taking chicas to cartagena or my ex-GF to San Andres. For San Andres, you almost have to import because there is not much there to be had. But in Cartagena, I regretted it. And that was trips with three different girls. Only once did I enjoy a trip with a chica. And that was to Santa Marta. She is really cool. Not demanding. Very laid back. And good sex. So I enjoyed that one. But like you, most girls I don't want to be around that much. Which explain why I'm divorced!

[QUOTE=Kafka;2660938]Tall Man finds the best ones. He also takes better pictures. I've got an incredibly hot one from Bucaramanga who wants to come spend time with me at the beach. But I'm not really sure how to handle the negotiation or if I really want her around that much. I've got things I like to do and women can become a distraction. She's very sweet and good looking.[/QUOTE]

I would not pick Valenti. Aka sour grapes.

There are many girls in Medellin that are way better looking and are easily available.

I like Scarlet. Aka sweet lemons LOL.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2660686]If I Die Tomorrow I Die a Happy Man!

I like your attitude and altitude.[/QUOTE]Hey,

If your in Medellin when I am there we should meet up and party! Paint the town red and the ladies white!

Maybe I'll just invite her to go to one of the islands for a couple of days so there's no shopping no distractions. I really think that having her in Cartagena will be a problem. I don't have the time to be paying attention to her and she'll get pissed off.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2660986]That is a tough call. Whether to take a chica with you on a trip. I have done it. Taking chicas to cartagena or my ex-GF to San Andres. For San Andres, you almost have to import because there is not much there to be had. But in Cartagena, I regretted it. And that was trips with three different girls. Only once did I enjoy a trip with a chica. And that was to Santa Marta. She is really cool. Not demanding. Very laid back. And good sex. So I enjoyed that one. But like you, most girls I don't want to be around that much. Which explain why I'm divorced![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2660908]With these two and your stable of girls, assume everything else being equal, the only difference among them is appearance. Who would you pick to have sex with if you only have enough time to have sex with one?

https://instagram.com/isscarletspring?utm_medium=copy_link

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/valentivitell/?hl=en[/URL]

I think you should start your only fan channel to help out the girls to get paid for it..[/QUOTE]How much would Valenti cost.

I think she is sexy and a well toned body.

I should be in Medellin on the 17 February.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2660919]I would not pick Valenti. There are many girls in Medellin that are way better looking and are easily available. I like Scarlet.[/QUOTE]I'm sure she would not be upset about you not picking her. The girl has 2 mil+ followers, travels the world and is doing well. She won't suck your dick for 300 mil cop, and that is the reason you would not pick her. Even if she is not your type, which is very possible, this doesn't change anything, she is hot af and I am sure if she walks into any establishment in MDE, be it Gusto or La Isla, or a regular night club, most guys will twist their fucking heads off staring at her.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2661013]I'm sure she would not be upset about you not picking her. The girl has 2 mil+ followers, travels the world and is doing well. She won't suck your dick for 300 mil cop, and that is the reason you would not pick her. Even if she is not your type, which is very possible, this doesn't change anything, she is hot af and I am sure if she walks into any establishment in MDE, be it Gusto or La Isla, or a regular night club, most guys will twist their fucking heads off staring at her.[/QUOTE]Who gives a fuck bro. Folks getting real sensitive about broads that will be with anybody for the right amount. Could care less how many heads anyone turns when that head she turn can easily have her. That is skirt games man billions of woman in this world and plenty of them look way better than her. Cmon bro these girls are working girls, prostitutes, pros whatever you want to call them. All these girls look damn near the same so stunting on one of the bro's here for what? Cause he did not pick that tooth pick ass girl you salivating over.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2659918]I used to be a huge fan of La Isla. $100 USD for a 10. Not so much anymore. A sad mix of crap girls, a few lookers with attitude and hustlers they never had before. Sad! They are overrun by new patrons (mongers. Gringo sex tourists. Bachelor parties. All types) and the 10's have mostly disappeared. The bar has been moved to the back and you will need bottle service or a group purchase of quite a few drinks for a booth. Just like the USA. The place was packed last night. I left after 30 minutes. Boring.[/QUOTE]It looks like you had the same experience as Captain Solo at La Isla. That is sad. It was the only strip club in Colombia where I saw true stunners, real 9's and 10's.

Maybe you can help Miamiboy out on the 1 to 10 scale and not caring what others think. He posted a 10 and asked the opinion of others and expected them to be honest. You go after the real beauties and I used to. He needs to not care what others think about quality. What you two are chasing is rare and does not fit everyone's time, effort, and budget, but he does not get that, and you do. So a lot of guys are going to say their 6's are 9's.

Time after time, I walk around with my gal and never see anyone prettier, but my last trip had a few women who could rival her.

I just got back from Cartagena, and she and I and her daughter went swimming in our apartment complex pool. It is great, up 25 stories high with stunning views of the city. And there were three beautiful women sunning themselves and one in particular was absolutely gorgeous. I do not know how they happened to be there as it is a private pool, but my point is this is where the 10's of Colombia are: at the private pools, at work, at the more exclusive gyms. And they only pop their heads out for a few moments, and you have to be there and pounce in that time.

Unlike Sao Paulo, it is not easy to find the beauties. They are not in the P4 P market or at least not anymore.

Gents,

First time to MDE and every day reading few pages and its really delightful to read few members reports.

Well I am not a hardcore monger but occasional sessions with GFE is appreciated during the travel.

Quite of few FB chics sending messages already as my trip is nearing but wanted to really see them first hand before I commit unless any senious members vouche for it.

I am there only for 5 days and few days I will be sight seeing (gutapo, comuna 13 and other interesting places. Preferably scenic places / waterfalls).

Is it possible to meetup in a mall and if you don't find attractive / connected. Simply give them the taxi fare and walk out? Or how do you guys deal in general.

I am going to stay in Fourpoints Sheraton, hence no guests allowed. Are there any near by recommended places for few hours surrounded by my hotel?

I have read about Mansion and website does not provide the prices but from some ones report its $100/ night. Will they give hourly basis as well (I mean half day at least) if we like the girls over the pool?

Are we even allowed into the mansion without being a check in guest over there?

Sorry if this has been answered before as I could not find this specific report for non checking guests accessing the hotel.

Also any one recommend near by scenic place with some waterfalls or swim in creeks kind of places. I am going to gutapo but I don't see any such falls to swim by.

Appreciate any feedback.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2660796]10-15 years ago a hot girl (she isn't hot by my standards but then again I like them fit like Ariana Grande) would have been able to be had for 300 mils probably less with no negotiation necessary. But these s1 mps have made these women westernized. You can't expect one's own self-value to not increase in correlation to their popularity and therefore increased options. Now, these same women do expect 500 USD. You go to places like Dubai and Brazil and the top-level escorts are getting thousands and hour from millionaire athletes and entertainers. The good thing is at the end of the day there are way more women than there are men on this planet so there's always a hot little thing who just turned 18 who hasn't been spoiled yet. The bad thing about that is it seems to be quite common for guys to travel and risk prison time because some of these 18-year-olds already be spoiled. Oh well, it's a numbers game at the end of the day.[/QUOTE]In dollars adjusted for inflation, 300 k 15 years ago would be equal to almost $270. Adjusting the other way, you could pay 1 million pesos today for the 300 k pussy 15 years ago and you would be paying the same price.

I'll never understand the absurd notion that the price of pussy should never increase. In 2008 the average price paid for a new car was just over $30 k. In 2022 it's over $47 k and that's not adjusted for inflation. In 2008 $100 would get you 180 k COP. Today that $100 will get you almost 400 k. If you want to be picky, you're complaining that Colombian pussy today doesn't cost less than half the price of comparable Colombian pussy in 2008.

5 years ago, most El Centro casas were charging about 45 k for 30 minutes. With the exchange rate just under 3 k, the cost was $15. Now they charge around 55 k, which costs $14. The prices of food, lodging and transportation have all gone up, while the cost of pussy has gone down and you're bitching that paying less is too expensive?

[QUOTE=SureMan;2661001]How much would Valenti cost.

I think she is sexy and a well toned body.

I should be in Medellin on the 17 February.[/QUOTE]Nobody has confirmed that Valenti does P4P. If she does, you'll need to add the cost of a round trip flight to Moscow to her price.

First post. I'm a veteran of yearly visits to Russia and most other FSU countries but trying Colombia this time around due to the BS going on in Ukraine / Russia border these days. I was planing a trip with two other friends but real life got in the way for all of them, and now I'm on my own. My date are March 2nd to the 9th. I have RTFF, and planning on getting a hotel, deciding between Hotel Leretta in Poblado or Hotel Dorado in LLeras. I have been reading the forum post going back almost a year and hope to try everything from Botero Park to Gusto. Built up a decent FB pipeline already. Will also be setting up a seeking account shortly.

I'll reach out to anyone who's in town during my dates to pregame and hit the spots with whoever is willing. Thanks again to you all for keeping this forum one of the most active one on the site.

JB out.

[QUOTE=MaximusV;2645181]Overdue trip report from a few months ago, just getting time to finally write down my thoughts.

It's best to start with what type of monger I am and what I look for. I like the GFE experience throughout the entire interaction. In bed, out for dinner, clubbing, shopping etc. El Centro street action is not really suited to my taste. Casas and strip clubs when I'm with friends is a good time. I prefer building a connection with a girl rather than short time encounters.

With that out of the way I spent the entire 2 weeks only using seeking. I stayed at the Marriott, wonderful hotel although some-what expensive. Nice pool, gym, great breakfast, sushi lounge, Sunday brunch. Really no complaints except for the water pressure / temperature sometimes sucked.

Before I go any further want to give the biggest thank you to fellow Monger (YyzTravel) we were both staying at the Marriott and boy oh boy this guy might be going into the monger hall of fame! He was not only generous with his time but also shared an encyclopedia of knowledge about everything related to Medellin. From girls, clubs, bars, things to do outside of mongering the list is endless learned a hell of a lot from him. Gratitude brother YyzTravel! The presidential suite was out of this world, the fiesta was awesome, the number of girls you banged that night might have set a record, incredible! DonCarlos1234 also met up with us a few nights (this guy is a machine, crushes seeking), great meeting you brother, hope to see both of you on the road again soon.

Back to my story I used seeking exclusively for my mongering activities while in Medellin. If you haven't used it before, be prepared for a hell of a lot of work, especially if you don't speak Spanish (I do not) it's going to be infinitely harder for you especially while trying to make a connection on dates. I would say 95% of the girls on seeking do not speak English.

The thing that will come up time and time again in my report is the communication factor its sooo hard to communicate back and forth with google translate, sometimes I just gave up and did some non-verbal communication. Building connections without speaking the language is a very hard thing to do. I am hesitant to return because of this one and only factor. I know. I know. (got to learn the language) to maximize the value of my experiences.

1st date: was a 19-year-old we went for coffee had a google translate conversation that lasted about 40 minutes before we went back to the hotel. She was cute, looked like her pictures, smelled good but had this annoying glitter on her body that got everywhere! Also she was really in love with herself posing in the mirror taking at least a 100 selfies. I just sat back on the couch and laughed at her. Finally, we got to business. The encounter was ok she was not very enthusiastic, and the BJ was lazy, she got tired after a few minutes. I proceeded with a few positions and sent her on her way.

2nd date: 22-year-old student said she was on break from school so was just looking for something fun to do. We went for lunch at the mall, walked around got some ice cream and then made our way back to the hotel. Her body was perfect works out 5 or 6 times a week. Toned, all natural, wonderful beauty. We start kissing and get to business soon after great BJ, enthusiastic, super fun, passionate. Everything I love! She was great I saw her a few more times throughout the trip before she had to go south and visit family.

3rd date: 24-year-old studying law super cute, shy, girl next door. Even spoke a little bit of English. We went to a nice dinner, then for drinks then back to my hotel. We had a great time but once I kick started the action she slowed me down and said not tonight! I got as far as unbuckling her bra before she pumped the breaks. I said ok no problem. She apologized and said she had some test the next day. She left but continued to message me every day but I was too busy juggling all my other prospects to fit her in the schedule again.

4th date: 24 year old nurse she was out of a magazine, ticked every box for me and she could get by with basic English. We went to a pasta place near the hotel. Made our way back to the hotel, started kissing and my perfect girl turns out to be a smoker, sigh. Not a deal breaker but I dislike cigarette smell on my ladies. Tell her lets go take a shower. We shower together she starts giving amazing BJ and a tried my best to hold off but I popped quick! Unfortunately, I'm the one and done kind of guy. Can't do a second pop for a few hours. So sadly sent her home around midnight and off to bed I went.

5th date: 21 year old wild child, exotic, great body, loves to party she wanted to go dance the night away and drink until the sun came up. I indulged her fantasies for a bit but after bar hoping for a few hours it was like 1 am and I told her its time to get back to the hotel. No problems there. Google translate doing its thing for me. We got back and it was like long lost lovers. Just straight passion from her. Really enjoyed it, great session. After the deed we fell asleep and she left at about 9 am.

6th date: 24 years old unemployed. The holy grail hot, speaks perfect English, playful, funny, enjoys a nice banter back and forth. We hung out for 3 days. She came with me everywhere, Communa 13, Pablo tour, dinners, bar hopping, dancing, chill at the pool. In bed she is complete GFE, excellent oral skills, wonderful body, every position. This is what I travel thousands of miles for this is what the monger game is all about for me. Paradise!

I think you get the picture now. I will not write out all of my dates because it gets repetitive.

I met 11 different ladies during my 2 week adventure. Some were superstars some were a waste of time. I had many repeat sessions with the superstars and will keep in touch with them for my eventual return.
[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Osteoknot;2645498]When you exit the airport there are two different busses very close by at the curb that look like this, you want the one that goes to El Centro labeled as shown with the red arrows. You will be dropped off yards from the back of The Nutibara Hotel (The Nutti) in El Centro. The other bus goes to RioNegro, and drops you off at a mall, far from downtown Medellin.

Sometimes the El Centro bus goes thru the tunnel, sometimes it doesn't, don't worry about it. There are people getting off before you get to El Centro, it will be obvious when you get to the final stop downtown. You will pass a nice city park on your right (Parque Simon Bolivar) when you are close, a few blocks away.

You pay as you exit the bus, the price is now 13 mil COP, (13.000 Colombian pesos, yes they use periods instead of commas). That's two price increases since I started riding the bus in 2019. You don't need exact change but get as close as possible. If you hand the bus driver 15 mil COP, that's like a 50 cent USD tip, if that doesn't bust your budget. Tips are generally not expected in Colombia. For comparison, a taxi will cost you 80-90 mil COP depending on exactly where you are headed in Medellin.

As you step off the bus look across the street and to your left for this restaurant, La Raza. While I was there La Raza was open very late, after the last bus of the day. BTW, the food in there is good, pricey by Colombian standards. Chicas love the place.

The Raza is the back entrance to "The Nutti. " You used to be able to walk into the reception area directly thru The Raza but they put a card key lock on the door right before you get to the hotel lobby. Your room key will work it, but obviously you need to check in first. Pearl: There is a BanColombia ATM tucked to your right as you stand at the door to get into the lobby. There is often a line of people waiting to use it but that ATM is open when almost all others nearby are closed. For example, with your room key you can use that ATM at 4 AM in the morning if you so choose when there is no line. 600 mil COP max withdrawal, but I have done two back to back and four in one 24 hour period with no problem.

You can catch the eye of the bellboy and he will let you in to the lobby or walk to your left past the food court around the bar and exit where I circled in the last foto, and you will come out in the front of The Nutti with the main entrance close to your right, up the ramp..[/QUOTE][QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2623240]All I have to say is, I am so sad to be home. I am sitting at my house now and just thinking about Medellin. Looking at how much I have invested thinking man I could live there for 30 years off my savings and enjoy my 30's and 40's way more.

Little background, I made a few reports, but to anyone that doesn't know me. I'm 35 Italian in NY area, lots of tats, and love Spanish women. I've been going to Montreal for French girls, and DR the last year for Spanish girls. DR last trip was fun but my friend told me to go to Colombia, he was there for a bachelor party.

I did reading a little nervous because of crime, but booked Medellin. I figured I hold my own in the Bronx, I can hold my own anywhere.

I lined up chicks on tinder and facebook, but it's not needed in Medellin. Stay near Parque Llerras, tons of women, and in my opinion way higher quality than the girls I met in DR. Beautiful light skinned Colombian girls with fat asses. Also have darker skinned too, I love all colors.

Day 1:

I fly in on Halloween, immediately buy my sim card, and meet a contact for my party supplies. Half oz of fire (was ok but not fire compared to my NY standards), 3 g tussi. Also got 3 bottles of henny pure white. Lock everything up in my safe, smoke a L on the balcony while chatting with some facebook bitches, and then I hit parque Lleras because I'm hungry. All that lining up on tinder and facebook went right out the window. Parque Lleras around 11 PM was crowded with bitches in Halloween costumes. I sat down and ate, had such a fat ass waitress, got her whatsapp on the way out. I went into a club, Lleras park, filled with dimes. Started collecting whatsapp, all the girls were IG models, and then they had younger girls too learning how to work the clubs. You could tell who the boss bitches were. I found a couch and they kept coming up to me quoting me 200 K-300 K (ratio is 1 USD for about 3,500 pesos). Anyway now I got about 20 numbers and my line is blowing up, I have a problem where I have too many options. I tell them all I am staying for about 2 months (even though really only 5 days) so they think they can make more in the long run instead of hitting a quick lick.

I'm talking numbers and all of the sudden the waitress text me saying she is off work, I ask her if she wants to grab a drink and smoke, she says sure. We go up to my place drink some she starts dancing, I had sheek louch on, she said no papi and put on some Spanish music. It was def the right move. I'll keep DBLOCK at home. Yoooo this bitches ass was so fat, she said she was 22. I'm stuck at this point, if you ever go to Colombia try tussi, it's like MDMA mixed with coke. I tear it up for about 45 minutes until first leche then we shower and chill. She goes back to work on me waking me back up, I start beating it up again then she squirts all over my bed. I hate that shit cause I got to sleep there. Anyway she lingers for awhile now it's about 7 AM and I'm like yo you got to go I'll call you a uber, want 200 K? She gets mad and says " I'm no prepago" I say ok ok my bad girl, and she doesn't take a dime. I take 2 Xanax and knock myself out, no way I was falling asleep by myself.

Day 2:

I wake up and go walk down calle 10, end up ubering to san diego mall. Yoooooooo so many baddies shopping. I use google translate introducing myself and collecting more whatsapps. I also found a store that sold me Viagra, bought 10 50 MG pills, needed it to balance out the tussi to keep me rock hard LOL go back to the hotel fire up a L and start chatting with some chicks that are trying to stop over. I tell this one Venezuelan chick she can come over if she gives me a good massage and extra tip if she makes me leche twice. (I usually get mad lazy after the first nut) , she agrees to 150 K and tells me 20 min. She shows up lookin bad with a white jump suit on, and has someone with her. I say what's up and point to her friend confused, she uses google translate and says it's her cousin and she thought I was cute too. So I say I only want her, but she say her cousin come along anyway, I say fuck it. We get upstairs smoke, they do some tussi, and start rubbing me down. They admiring my tattoos tell me how sexy I am, trying to make me feel like a king, I love it. Long story short they end up both getting it, and I gave her cousin 100 K, and gave her 300 K, 400 K total (barely 100 USD) they were there for about 3 hours, I had to boot them out. I take a nap and wake up about 9 PM.

I no lie wake up to about 30 messages, I'm like damn man which ***** looks like what, too many options. I message one of my facebook chicks and say I'm going to eat if she hungry. She down meets me at diablo steakhouse. Bro she shows up in tight black skirt with red top, she the devil, bad asf. We eat I ask her if she want to smoke, she says sure, we go back to hotel and smoke. We google translating, I already been talking to her for about a week now. She telling me how she loves me and feels good vibe from me blah blah blah, I'm on this mdma telling her I think I love her too, yo no lie mdma makes me really feel like I be loving them. We drink a little and she says have you been to gustos? I say no we go, mad bitches, I'm like why did I come here with this *****? She hits the bathroom, I grab the bartenders whatsapp. The bartender was nice, I tried to tip her 20,000 peso, and she said no no too much papi. She seems like a really nice girl and sexy. My girl comes back and she says papi lets go back to your room. I bring her back, popped a Viagra on the walk LOL.

Guys starting this moment I started making very bad choices that I regret but at the time seemed right. I go back, smoke a L, and lay in bed telling her she got to put in the work, I'm feeling lazy. She sucking me for about 15 minutes, turns around and dancing over me to reggaeton music. She bad man. Then she lowers herself down turns around looks me in the eyes and slides me inside of her. My mind is saying yo put a condom on, but I just couldn't do it. She was so bad I'm telling you, I never seen chicks like this in DR or Montreal or NY. These bitches are BAD in Colombia. They are on another level. So she riding me, I throw her on all four, watching that ass slapping back, she can feel me about to nut and starts pushing back into me. I end up nutting right in her and she saying papi I love you blah blah blah, I'm thinking fuck what did I just do. Now it's almost 1 AM and she on her phone and says papi my amiga is close, want to chill with her? I say fuck it lets go, and we meet at terraza club. Her friend was badder than her, I'm still amazed by the quality there. Long story short I end up bringing both back to the hotel, we up till almost 6 am chillin, condom was on and off LOL I made bad choices this trip. Again these chicks both trying to sleep in my bed. I tell them ya got to go and give them both 200 K. I dunno why but these girls always trying to sleep over, I can't sleep with them in my room though, trust issues LOL.

Day 3:

Wake up, fire up a L, grab some lunch solo. Chatting with chicks over the phone they all sending me pics trying to chill, the non pro girls are the best to me. The girls from the mall are all over me, I'm sending them apartments that I might pick that are stupid expensive so they thinking this nigga going to pay me. The bartender from the previous night says she is off today and having a little party later if I want to slide through. Everything I read online told me to not go into random taxis, not go to random houses, blah blah blah, I did the opposite. I told her sure I'll link up later with her, shoot me the address. In the mean time I end up telling one of the Instagram hoes to come over and give me a massage (I love massages after smoking a L, great way to start a nap LOL).

She meets me at the hotel, smokes, giving me a good massage. She asks for 300 K, I say 200 K, she say papi I'm not like the normal girls trust me. I say show me why you worth 300 K. This chick puts in work, it's like every one of these girls had the perfect figure, fat ass, slim waist, nice tits. I put a condom on and she riding me but it keeps getting soft so I ask her to finish me with head. She down there for like 30 minutes I'm about to give up and she say papi I want to feel you, and slides me in. I'm in there again making a bad choice, but can't stop myself. I end up pulling out and nutting on her face, give her 300 K, nap time.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=ShinobiKayle13;2624666]This will be my first report as I've been a free member for the past couple of years. Finally bought a subscription and wanted to provide some reviews from my experience currently in Medellin.

Spa Fantasia Energy. I don't remember her name but her number is 55, the rate is 170 K / hour, selection on a weekday was sub-par but I decided to choose her as I already made the trip out there on my first day in the city. She wanted 100 K for BBBJ so I respectfully declined. The session was decent, nothing special, she asked for tips at the end so I gave her 30 K although I probably shouldn't have. I had high hopes for the lineup at Fantasia as I went March 2020 and met this incredible curly hair bombshell with an amazing body. I'll have to give that place a 2nd chance on the weekend. Rating 6/10.

La Isla Visit #1 - I heard of this legendary strip club so I decided to visit on Halloween, which was Sunday, got pretty busy after 11 pm. Picked up this all-natural-looking chick, no plastic on her, just a girl next door kind of vibe as she wasn't really hunting for customers but rather hanging out on the sofa so I approached her and she was very sweet and affectionate towards me which was nice. FYI it's 320,000 to go up to the room, 20 k to get in and water is 30 k along with beers..[/QUOTE]

Joe Bandit, look me up, I will be in MDE from the Feb 25 to Mar 5.

Guys, I have a concern about the low limits at the ATMs, I am seeing limits like 600 - 800 mil. WTF, am I going to have to bring cash? My understanding is that this is not like Thailand, were there are multiple money changers on every corner and I can feel safe with $500- $1000 in USD in my pocket. Gentlemen, please tell me I am wrong or that there is a better way.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2661070]

5 years ago, most El Centro casas were charging about 45 k for 30 minutes. With the exchange rate just under 3 k, the cost was $15. Now they charge around 55 k, which costs $14. The prices of food, lodging and transportation have all gone up, while the cost of pussy has gone down and you're bitching that paying less is too expensive?[/QUOTE]I can remember 10 years ago when it was even more expensive than five years ago for pussy when the exchange rate was closer to 2 K.

It kind of defies logic to think that pussy has actually gotten cheaper over the past decade in Colombia, yet all the other things you mention have gone up.

So in looking at this, along with the complications brought on by the Pandemic, and the onslaught of the Vennies over the years, makes sense pussy hasn't gone up here, but is in process, albeit slowly in Colombia in my opinion.

Yet in other Countries, like Mexico as an example, prices have gone up a lot since the Pandemic from what I hear.

Cheers mate, glad to see some around my age here. Tinder definitely worked for me the first time I was in Colombia and I came across some regular, really cute, intelligent girls.

I am mostly after the same sort of GFE. The problem with meeting the girls naturally is that they study / work and hence rarely have much time to spend with you during the week.

As mentioned P4P is also a bit of a fantasy of mine but I'm definitely not interested in some purely mechanical fucking, that's why the attitude a girl has matters a lot to me.

Not saying I'm going to limit myself to just one girl during my stay but equally not interested in fucking 3 chicas each day every like some experienced members here.

In that sense AirBnb would probably work for me. If I do see a chick in the street that I really like I can always take her to a love motel etc. And only invite normal / Fb girls to my place.

My Spanish is mas o menos. I dated a regular Spanish girl in the past and I can understand a lot but not enough yet to have a meaningful 2 way convo.

What I've noticed however is that there is quite a large pool of smart girls who do speak English (or maybe that was just my lack in Bogota).

Thanks for all the advice and I'll PM you.

[QUOTE=Alaska1986;2660027]Long time lurker turned member trying to start contributing here.

Appearance age wise (minus the height) I was in your situation when I started 6 yrs ago. ID say it can definitely work to your advantage as some women may actually like your company and stay longer or you can negotiate multi day discounts if you so desire (probably not the hardcore seasoned prepagos though).

Hot feisty in the bed well the thing is performance is never guaranteed but in general Colombians are know to be tender and loving but there are some straight up freaks out there I guess you'd just have to judge by the photos. If you want hot feisty in terms of attitude maybe try Dominican republic LOL but I bet once you do and get hustled out of a lot of money you'll be right back in Colombia LOL.

Tinder can work but I wouldn't suggest that to a first timer ID say it carries slightly more risk than fb girls. Build up a fb list is your best bet. Also you can try Colombian cupid paid membership and pull prepagos, normal young girls that you might be able to bone for cost of a dinner movie and drinks, etc. Its really not that hard especially if you look half decent there is so much supply over there of prepagos and just curious young girls that with a little work you can get good service for a good price or even nothing sometimes. But you said without the drama and complications in a relationship so chose wisely on cupido. The biggest challenge will be trying to make sure the women is really as hot as in her photos LOL. Hardcore prepagos probably arent up for doing video calls LOL while cupido semi normal or normal girls will generally after you warm up to them.

Work on your Spanish though it will pay off many times over..[/QUOTE]

My impression from my first trip to Colombia was that dollar for dollar its one of the countries where a woman's physical beauty is the least valuable in the world. I know there are plenty of poorer countries than Colombia even in Latin America. For example, Bolivia or Paraguay are less developed and cheaper places. But in Bolivia there are only a fraction of the beauties you'd find in Colombia. Ultimately Colombia has a supply vs. Demand, overall development, and relative currency devaluation sweet spot that makes beauty relatively cheap. I get the feeling that places like Ukraine probably have a similar situation but I've yet to go. Personally, I'm willing to trade some imperfections for a great performance and don't get swept up in the 9's, 10's, etc ratings game. But from the moment I got on the plane to Medellin the first time I knew I was in for a treat.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2661070]In dollars adjusted for inflation, 300 k 15 years ago would be equal to almost $270. Adjusting the other way, you could pay 1 million pesos today for the 300 k pussy 15 years ago and you would be paying the same price.

I'll never understand the absurd notion that the price of pussy should never increase. In 2008 the average price paid for a new car was just over $30 k. In 2022 it's over $47 k and that's not adjusted for inflation. In 2008 $100 would get you 180 k COP. Today that $100 will get you almost 400 k. If you want to be picky, you're complaining that Colombian pussy today doesn't cost less than half the price of comparable Colombian pussy in 2008.

5 years ago, most El Centro casas were charging about 45 k for 30 minutes. With the exchange rate just under 3 k, the cost was $15. Now they charge around 55 k, which costs $14. The prices of food, lodging and transportation have all gone up, while the cost of pussy has gone down and you're bitching that paying less is too expensive?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MadMax9336;2661042]Gents,

First time to MDE and every day reading few pages and its really delightful to read few members reports.

Well I am not a hardcore monger but occasional sessions with GFE is appreciated during the travel.

Quite of few FB chics sending messages already as my trip is nearing but wanted to really see them first hand before I commit unless any senious members vouche for it.

I am there only for 5 days and few days I will be sight seeing (gutapo, comuna 13 and other interesting places. Preferably scenic places / waterfalls).

Is it possible to meetup in a mall and if you don't find attractive / connected. Simply give them the taxi fare and walk out? Or how do you guys deal in general.

I am going to stay in Fourpoints Sheraton, hence no guests allowed. Are there any near by recommended places for few hours surrounded by my hotel?

I have read about Mansion and website does not provide the prices but from some ones report its $100/ night. Will they give hourly basis as well (I mean half day at least) if we like the girls over the pool?

Are we even allowed into the mansion without being a check in guest over there?

Sorry if this has been answered before as I could not find this specific report for non checking guests accessing the hotel.

Also any one recommend near by scenic place with some waterfalls or swim in creeks kind of places. I am going to gutapo but I don't see any such falls to swim by.

Appreciate any feedback.[/QUOTE]In general, you can't get into the Mansion daytime unless you are staying there. There are no rooms by the hour or half day. You can get into the mansion bar at night. Rooms are around 80-100 US / day. Hotel website is [URL]www.hotelmedelinplaza.com[/URL] for prices and photos of rooms.

Has anyone ever stayed in the Moderatto building near Unitec in Laureles? I see an apartment there that looks pretty nice I'm considering booking for my upcoming trip. They say they have a 3 guest policy on the Airbnb page with a fee after that of 100 k per guest. If anyone has stayed there was wondering if that is easy to bypass by making friends with the portero / portera? I get the feeling from RTFF that not all porteros / porteras are as strict as the staff at San Peters. I'm not planning on bringing loads of girls back to that place per se but probably more than 3 and probably repeating with some I met last time. The other options I'm looking at have no porteros (so no extra fees) but worse kitchen facilities.

[QUOTE=Recondite;2661236]Has anyone ever stayed in the Moderatto building near Unitec in Laureles? I see an apartment there that looks pretty nice I'm considering booking for my upcoming trip. They say they have a 3 guest policy on the Airbnb page with a fee after that of 100 k per guest. If anyone has stayed there was wondering if that is easy to bypass by making friends with the portero / portera? I get the feeling from RTFF that not all porteros / porteras are as strict as the staff at San Peters. I'm not planning on bringing loads of girls back to that place per se but probably more than 3 and probably repeating with some I met last time. The other options I'm looking at have no porteros (so no extra fees) but worse kitchen facilities.[/QUOTE]I did a few times. Just find the ones hosted by Lucina. Her apts are great and no restrictions on visitors, never had an issue. Never paid a fee. All visitors should bring their IDs and check in at the reception. Porteros are cool. Cafe downstairs is nice. Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Recondite;2661236]Has anyone ever stayed in the Moderatto building near Unitec in Laureles? I see an apartment there that looks pretty nice I'm considering booking for my upcoming trip. They say they have a 3 guest policy on the Airbnb page with a fee after that of 100 k per guest. If anyone has stayed there was wondering if that is easy to bypass by making friends with the portero / portera? I get the feeling from RTFF that not all porteros / porteras are as strict as the staff at San Peters. I'm not planning on bringing loads of girls back to that place per se but probably more than 3 and probably repeating with some I met last time. The other options I'm looking at have no porteros (so no extra fees) but worse kitchen facilities.[/QUOTE]There is overlap between the short-term rental owners in the Moderatto and San Peters. There are pensioners living in the Moderatto full-time so it is not a party building. The church nearby rings its bells early in the morning. On weekdays the building is in the flight path of a plane that arrives at 7 AM. The outcall chicas tend to have a hard time finding the place.

From my observation, the men who rent there tend to stick to one girl. You see them at the breakfast place next door in the morning. For under 100 k pesos, you can rent a room at either the Aloha, Executive 33 (associated with Luna Lunera) or the Thematic Luxury. I usually went to the motels for my afternoon dates. One advantage is the you don't have to clean up the mess afterwards.

I like the Moderatto and will go there again but San Peters is better for wild whoring.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2661225]In general, you can't get into the Mansion daytime unless you are staying there. There are no rooms by the hour or half day. You can get into the mansion bar at night. Rooms are around 80-100 US / day. Hotel website is [URL]www.hotelmedelinplaza.com[/URL] for prices and photos of rooms.[/QUOTE]As I vaguely recall, during my first visit to Medellin (3 years ago,) as well, I stopped by the Mansion early one PM to check it out, and the manager let me hangout by the pool with the chicas by paying the standard bar cover fee. And I could have lingered longer and patronized the bar later in the PM, without having to pay more. Seemed to be a standard policy at the time and I imagine still in effect. Happy hunting.

Any recommendations on getting a real professional massage in Medellin from an attractive girl? Extras not important but if available would be a big plus but the massage is the most important to me. Went to comuna 13 and Guatape, did a lot of walking. Sore as hell!

[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;2661262]As I vaguely recall, during my first visit to Medellin (3 years ago,) as well, I stopped by the Mansion early one PM to check it out, and the manager let me hangout by the pool with the chicas by paying the standard bar cover fee.[/QUOTE]What did this benefit you since like another poster said you can not rent a room by the hour or half day? You just paid money to sit at a pool and look at 3 chicks?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2661038]It looks like you had the same experience as Captain Solo at La Isla. That is sad. It was the only strip club in Colombia where I saw true stunners, real 9's and 10's.

Maybe you can help Miamiboy out on the 1 to 10 scale and not caring what others think. He posted a 10 and asked the opinion of others and expected them to be honest. You go after the real beauties and I used to. He needs to not care what others think about quality. What you two are chasing is rare and does not fit everyone's time, effort, and budget, but he does not get that, and you do. So a lot of guys are going to say their 6's are 9's.

Time after time, I walk around with my gal and never see anyone prettier, but my last trip had a few women who could rival her.

I just got back from Cartagena, and she and I and her daughter went swimming in our apartment complex pool. It is great, up 25 stories high with stunning views of the city. And there were three beautiful women sunning themselves and one in particular was absolutely gorgeous. I do not know how they happened to be there as it is a private pool, but my point is this is where the 10's of Colombia are: at the private pools, at work, at the more exclusive gyms. And they only pop their heads out for a few moments, and you have to be there and pounce in that time.

Unlike Sao Paulo, it is not easy to find the beauties. They are not in the P4 P market or at least not anymore.[/QUOTE]Elvis 2008 what is so RARE about what they are chasing? And when did any of you three set the bar of REAL beauty? That Valentina chick is a skinny ass girl with a cute face and is dime a damn dozen. Is that the definition of rare or real beauty? She would not be top 10 in plenty of people book certainly not mine. Like and love who you want but don't get on here with that arrogance of a dime a dozen prostitute that y'all are doing anything better than any other monger. You are paying for pussy that you like and others don't like or consider a "rare beauty" I never seen a trophy for that. A lot of the bros on here are cool and report what they do and are not begging another dude to validate what they went for. And the people were honest about that girl they did not like her so what suck it up. Believe me myself and many others can say they been with someone better looking than her in there time because she is a 10 to you not all. Quit putting these girls on some pedestal that they do not belong on. No one is fucking no one that is God gifts to the world Beyonce got millions of women who will eat her alive in looks. Quit saving these hoes and have fun. Lmfao.

Hi Max,

I stay at the Four Points often, usually the first 3 days of a trip to settle in. You are allowed one guest as long as you booked for two. There is also a back gate to the mall that is open until 8 or 9 pm. I have brought girls in through there during the day and have had luck 90% of the time. . Just have some of your groceries with you and maybe an umbrella. A couple times they've called my room after they saw me come through the back gate with someone and I just said it was the girl that had checked in before. No problem. Of course I'm not bringing in 3 or 4 girls a day like some others on here.

My two cents.

Chicago.

[QUOTE=MadMax9336;2661042]Gents,

First time to MDE and every day reading few pages and its really delightful to read few members reports.

Well I am not a hardcore monger but occasional sessions with GFE is appreciated during the travel.

Quite of few FB chics sending messages already as my trip is nearing but wanted to really see them first hand before I commit unless any senious members vouche for it.

I am there only for 5 days and few days I will be sight seeing (gutapo, comuna 13 and other interesting places. Preferably scenic places / waterfalls).

Is it possible to meetup in a mall and if you don't find attractive / connected. Simply give them the taxi fare and walk out? Or how do you guys deal in general..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Recondite;2661217]My impression from my first trip to Colombia was that dollar for dollar its one of the countries where a woman's physical beauty is the least valuable in the world. [/QUOTE]I would say "most valuable in the world" because the value is great, not the price. But I understand your point, and I agree. I know, you might not care, but from the otherwise effective way you write I thought you might. Ostee Out.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2661038]... He posted a 10 and asked the opinion of others and expected them to be honest...[/QUOTE]He did not ask for opinion. I did but I did not ask for rating. I do appreciate it when members associate rating with an image. I mainly want to see the preference from others to provide a context for the rating. I have met enough mongers to know that we can have very different tastes. It's not a competition or offensive when someone I found attractive that others don't.

I think the La Isla we knew is gone.

Was at Patrick's Irish Pub recently and hit it off with one of the waitresses. She said she's free tomorrow but wasn't sure if she was saying that she's available or if she's just telling me that. Has anyone gone out / gone for GFE with the waitresses at the Pub or other establishments? TIA.

I appreciate all the great info on here from FB, to casas, to Centro, to La Isla / strip clubs. And that is where I probably will do my hunting based on the super info on here from you guys. But in terms of immediate plug-and-play -- read: see chica, talk to chica, take chica to my hotel room in Poblado (which is chica friendly) pulling from a club or and Parque Lleras has it's appeal to me. Is the pricing in Lleras Park Nightclub on the whole less ridiculous than Gustos? Perhaps there is a step-down in number / average of hotness of chicas, but I can handle that myself be being there and self-selecting (if there is no good fruit, then I don't buy), but in terms of "buying" if I find something I like, am I to expect the same American pricing (or at least way above local market) silliness than you guys seem to say is ever present at Gustos?

Thank you for your informed thoughts.

Jacknimble.

[QUOTE=Sargon76;2661170]Joe Bandit, look me up, I will be in MDE from the Feb 25 to Mar 5.

Guys, I have a concern about the low limits at the ATMs, I am seeing limits like 600 - 800 mil. WTF, am I going to have to bring cash? My understanding is that this is not like Thailand, were there are multiple money changers on every corner and I can feel safe with $500- $1000 in USD in my pocket. Gentlemen, please tell me I am wrong or that there is a better way.[/QUOTE]Davivienda ATMs allow up to 2 million pesos per withdrawal. Banco Pichincha ATMs allow up to 1 million per withdrawal with multiple withdrawals available.

There aren't any good reasons to walk around with $500-$1000 in your pocket in Medellin. Go to the ATM, get your money, take it and stash it in your room. Carry around only as much as you need.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2661187]I can remember 10 years ago when it was even more expensive than five years ago for pussy when the exchange rate was closer to 2 K.

It kind of defies logic to think that pussy has actually gotten cheaper over the past decade in Colombia, yet all the other things you mention have gone up.

So in looking at this, along with the complications brought on by the Pandemic, and the onslaught of the Vennies over the years, makes sense pussy hasn't gone up here, but is in process, albeit slowly in Colombia in my opinion.

Yet in other Countries, like Mexico as an example, prices have gone up a lot since the Pandemic from what I hear.[/QUOTE]It's not just the exchange rate. The prices of everything else in Colombia has gone up. The girls need to spend more money to get by.

Another example, girls at the Mansion were getting 150-200 k 5 years ago. A recent report said the top for most is 200 k, and he got some for much less. From the monger aspect, 5 years ago the exchange rate was about 2 k, now it's hovering near 4 k per dollar. 5 years ago they were paying $75-$100 at the mansion. Today they are paying $38-$50.

[QUOTE=SoulCust;2661266]Any recommendations on getting a real professional massage in Medellin from an attractive girl? Extras not important but if available would be a big plus but the massage is the most important to me. Went to comuna 13 and Guatape, did a lot of walking. Sore as hell![/QUOTE]Go to the Rio Sur mall. There are 4 or 5 massage places inside. Each that I've been to gives an excellent massage and extras are available. The extras are expensive by normal Medellin standards, but they each have some fine looking girls who will get mostly naked for you.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2661272]What did this benefit you since like another poster said you can not rent a room by the hour or half day? You just paid money to sit at a pool and look at 3 chicks?[/QUOTE]The benefit is the ability to get WhatsApp numbers from the girls, or you can take them back to your place. Some of the guys who regularly stay there are decent fellows, interesting to talk to.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2661276]I remember in college, they taught us that price increase is due to inflation. So, if there is zero inflation, or worse deflation, then it's not so absurd to expect prices to stay stable or even decline. I think the world has experienced both at one time or another.[/QUOTE]Name a 15 year period in history with negative or zero inflation every year. Since 1960 the US has had negative inflation once -0.36% in 2009. In 2015 it was 0. 12%. From 1979-81 inflation rate was 11.25% 13.55% and 10.33%.

There were two chicas on mileroticos that I chatted to on WhatsApp and I was just wondering what people's experience has been with mileroticos. I would be going to their apartment as I am staying in a hostel. They both have reviews on Mileroticos which I figured gives more credibility to them. Or do you guys think I should just get a short time motel or something?

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2661280]Hi Max,

I stay at the Four Points often, usually the first 3 days of a trip to settle in. You are allowed one guest as long as you booked for two. There is also a back gate to the mall that is open until 8 or 9 pm. I have brought girls in through there during the day and have had luck 90% of the time. . Just have some of your groceries with you and maybe an umbrella. A couple times they've called my room after they saw me come through the back gate with someone and I just said it was the girl that had checked in before. No problem. Of course I'm not bringing in 3 or 4 girls a day like some others on here..[/QUOTE]Thanks Chicago for the feedback.

I am bit relieved that there is a possibility of bringing a decently dressed chics into Fourpoints then. Good tip on back door mall entrance but timing is more important as per your feedback.

Actually we booked for 3 people (guys) but only two are making on time and third one might join after 2 days.

Having diamond status the hotel upgraded me to jr. Suite but from the pictures they don't have terrace (balcony) which I like to have smoke. Do they have the balcony rooms or this hotel does not have it at all?

Probably I might not have the option of saying that the girl with me is the same one I checked in as we are two guys will be checking in.

As of now its not a deal breaker as I can always rent a love motel hourly basis if I find the right girl.

Cannot wait to land in MDE after 2 years of pandemic isolation.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2661225]In general, you can't get into the Mansion daytime unless you are staying there. There are no rooms by the hour or half day. You can get into the mansion bar at night. Rooms are around 80-100 US / day. Hotel website is [URL]www.hotelmedelinplaza.com[/URL] for prices and photos of rooms.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback Husker, BTW the website does not open strangely.

I will go and see the scene and if I see any good chics. I will book one day and take them straight or take their whatsapp nunber book near by love notel if its cheaper than Mansion.

BTW. No restriction of how many chics we can bring in a day right unlike other hotels?

[QUOTE=JackNimble;2661375]I appreciate all the great info on here from FB, to casas, to Centro, to La Isla / strip clubs. And that is where I probably will do my hunting based on the super info on here from you guys. But in terms of immediate plug-and-play -- read: see chica, talk to chica, take chica to my hotel room in Poblado (which is chica friendly) pulling from a club or and Parque Lleras has it's appeal to me. Is the pricing in Lleras Park Nightclub on the whole less ridiculous than Gustos? Perhaps there is a step-down in number / average of hotness of chicas, but I can handle that myself be being there and self-selecting (if there is no good fruit, then I don't buy), but in terms of "buying" if I find something I like, am I to expect the same American pricing (or at least way above local market) silliness than you guys seem to say is ever present at Gustos?

Thank you for your informed thoughts.

Jacknimble.[/QUOTE]In Gusto you're dealing with the Gusto hooker union. Very rarely will you find one who will ask for much less. If you wait for closing time, you might get a bargain. Lleras Park is less organized. Prices should vary more. There are several night clubs in the area and you'll likely find a few working girls in each, at lower prices.

[QUOTE=JackNimble;2661375]I appreciate all the great info on here from FB, to casas, to Centro, to La Isla / strip clubs. And that is where I probably will do my hunting based on the super info on here from you guys. But in terms of immediate plug-and-play -- read: see chica, talk to chica, take chica to my hotel room in Poblado (which is chica friendly) pulling from a club or and Parque Lleras has it's appeal to me. Is the pricing in Lleras Park Nightclub on the whole less ridiculous than Gustos? Perhaps there is a step-down in number / average of hotness of chicas, but I can handle that myself be being there and self-selecting (if there is no good fruit, then I don't buy), but in terms of "buying" if I find something I like, am I to expect the same American pricing (or at least way above local market) silliness than you guys seem to say is ever present at Gustos?

Thank you for your informed thoughts.

Jacknimble.[/QUOTE]I spent some time in Lleras Park Nightclub in December. It has been interesting to watch the evolution of this place over the last 3 or 4 years. To answer your question directly I would say it's not a rip-off joint like Gusto. The chicas will tell you real prices like "300 mil pesos" or maybe less unlike Gusto chicas will tell you 300 and later tell you they meant 300 USA Dollars. Or some are more honest and tell you up front their prices are in dollars. I haven't yet heard stories of chicas in LPN asking for dollars or worse yet giving a number and later saying they meant dollars not mil pesos. Be sure to always say "mil pesos" when discussing prices with chicas.

On a side note if you like or are ok with thicker chicas then LPN is probably a good place to shoot fish in a barrel without being ripped off.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2661388]Davivienda ATMs allow up to 2 million pesos per withdrawal. Banco Pichincha ATMs allow up to 1 million per withdrawal with multiple withdrawals available.

There aren't any good reasons to walk around with $500-$1000 in your pocket in Medellin. Go to the ATM, get your money, take it and stash it in your room. Carry around only as much as you need.[/QUOTE]Thank you for that info. I wouldn't consider having that much money while walking around, I was just using it as an example of the difference of my normal travel destination (Thailand) to Colombia. The only big risk I hope to take on this trip in BBFS if I really like the girl. I just don't want to miss out on a golden opportunity due to lack of funds. I don't plan on overpaying but I do plan on going hard! Maybe see if I can break my old record of 5 girls in one day (thank you Soi 6, I miss you and I will be back!) I might not mind cracking open a couple bottles of champagne or something. IDK guys, it's just been such a long time, pre-covid, since I have been anywhere, or even gotten laid (too risky to P4P in the USA, at least where I live), I just want to make the best of this trip.

Akzara Spa in El Poblado. I got a 1.5 hour full body massage from a young lady who seemed to be a certified massage therapist. Cost about $35 bucks. I would highly recommend checking them out (I didn't try for extras) maybe possible but if you are looking for a professional place then this is it. I left feeling great you can find it across the street from KFC on Calle 10.

[QUOTE=SoulCust;2661266]Any recommendations on getting a real professional massage in Medellin from an attractive girl? Extras not important but if available would be a big plus but the massage is the most important to me. Went to comuna 13 and Guatape, did a lot of walking. Sore as hell![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2661187]I can remember 10 years ago when it was even more expensive than five years ago for pussy when the exchange rate was closer to 2 K.

It kind of defies logic to think that pussy has actually gotten cheaper over the past decade in Colombia, yet all the other things you mention have gone up.

So in looking at this, along with the complications brought on by the Pandemic, and the onslaught of the Vennies over the years, makes sense pussy hasn't gone up here, but is in process, albeit slowly in Colombia in my opinion.

Yet in other Countries, like Mexico as an example, prices have gone up a lot since the Pandemic from what I hear.[/QUOTE]I've been able to get $100/ hour or $300/ TLN from HK girls in Tijuana. Pretty satisfied with the service as well, these girls put in work.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2661392]Go to the Rio Sur mall. There are 4 or 5 massage places inside. Each that I've been to gives an excellent massage and extras are available. The extras are expensive by normal Medellin standards, but they each have some fine looking girls who will get mostly naked for you.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your help. May I ask what the price range was for extras? Do you remember the name of one of the legit massage place that you had the best real massage experience at?

[QUOTE=Jake2738;2661413]There were two chicas on mileroticos that I chatted to on WhatsApp and I was just wondering what people's experience has been with mileroticos. I would be going to their apartment as I am staying in a hostel. They both have reviews on Mileroticos which I figured gives more credibility to them. Or do you guys think I should just get a short time motel or something?[/QUOTE]I saw 3 or 4 girls from Mileroticos or Photoprepagos when I was there last September. All were in buildings with front gate security, and they were relatively quiet and clean locations. So I felt comfortable. Of course, I don't know if that is the case with the ones you are in contact with, and I suppose something could go down within the apartment. So, as with all situations, you should keep yourself aware of the surroundings.

[QUOTE=MadMax9336;2661421]Thanks for the feedback Husker, BTW the website does not open strangely.

I will go and see the scene and if I see any good chics. I will book one day and take them straight or take their whatsapp nunber book near by love notel if its cheaper than Mansion.

BTW. No restriction of how many chics we can bring in a day right unlike other hotels?[/QUOTE]In the Mansion, you can bring in as many chicas as you want for no additional fee.

[QUOTE=Sargon76;2661430] IDK guys, it's just been such a long time, pre-covid, since I have been anywhere, or even gotten laid (too risky to P4P in the USA, at least where I live), I just want to make the best of this trip.[/QUOTE]Oh boy, you might be like a train wreck here for the first few days when you see all the eye candy in Medellin, and are walking around with a hard on. LOL.

I get excited like you about coming here, typically within a few weeks of being gone from here.

[QUOTE=SoulCust;2661563]Thank you for your help. May I ask what the price range was for extras? Do you remember the name of one of the legit massage place that you had the best real massage experience at?[/QUOTE]The best was at Zen Spa. The massage was excellent. If I remember correctly 1 hour massage with the girl stripping down to her panties and giving a goo tug was 180 k, which at the time was about $60. The girl had some of the most amazing, big, natural tits I've ever seen. She also had a very pretty face and an incredible body.

[QUOTE=MadMax9336;2661421]Thanks for the feedback Husker, BTW the website does not open strangely.

I will go and see the scene and if I see any good chics. I will book one day and take them straight or take their whatsapp nunber book near by love notel if its cheaper than Mansion.

BTW. No restriction of how many chics we can bring in a day right unlike other hotels?[/QUOTE]Try [URL]www.hotelmedellinm.com[/URL], no limit on guests, they just have to have valid cedula to get in & your room #.

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo;1396437]The 400k / 90 min. Girl was Luz Helena from.

[url]http://www.prepagos1000.com/prepagosxxx-medellin.html[/url]

The girl from Romancelatina was sexylatinajulieta who costed 300k / 2hs with BBBJ.

Priceworthy service I got from :

Masajistaspaisas. Com:

Daniela Prepago Medellin 313 710 91 31 120k / 1hs, CBJ, but very classy kind woman. 100% recommended.

Fabiana Villareal 310 651 87 75, 40k extra for BBBJ, supersweet, dancer body, my absolute favorite among +300 prepagos in Latinamerica since 2003. Works in a massage on the 2th floor, while the 1th floor is a regular office, kind of funny situations when entering, but very fresh installations. Fabiana Villareal works with 4-5 other girls. I had them all, all are good, especially Jessica Gym 300 4731786, with 5 M COP-tits from paisasdivinas. Com. Girls charge 120k + 40k for BBBJ / 1hs. The site is located at Cra. 78 No. 42-20, or "San Juan con 78".

Paisasdivinas also have 2 girls in a Laureles apt. Near Laureles Park that I would like to recommend. 100k +20k for BBBJ:

Koral 300 4731786 & Dulce, but I can't find Dulce anymore on paisasdivinas. Com, but I was there 10 days ago, impressive sight having those two babes in bed. (Dulce might have moved on to nother site since she was the hotter of the two and maybe got a better deal elsewhere, I would if where her. Both with enhaced tits and ass Colombianstyle, pornobabes, if you like that.

Close to the site at San Juan / 78 is Juliana Espectacular 318 4066029. She and her friend 100k each, but did'nt do BBBJ, but very good looking and sexy both of them.

Rest of them I can not remember well enough to point out. But masajespaisas and paisasdivinas are good. Not perfect, but as good as it get's. Prices from 100k, which 16% of my Homeland babeprice index. 120k +40k for BBBJ is then 25, but in Sexprison BBBJ is not available, but girls a little hotter almost 9-10s, while those from these paisas-sites are 7-9s.

New Life have some real hotties, maybe 33% is Real Nice Ones, really cheap 50k for 45 min or 65k for 1 hs, + 20k for BBBJ, the best deal in town (for me it was).65k +20k for BBJ is equal to 13% of Homeland babeprice index cost.

Daytime Fishing in Centro Comerciales like Premium Plaza might work. The more expensive CC- the more babes running around.

I left MDE long-time satisfied and this enery lasts for months, until next trip![/QUOTE]I paid 400 k for 90 minutes.

She was unbelievably beautiful. With sublime implants in her cinnamon coloured butt and tits. She ws so perfect it was almost tooo much, also very nice personality, 20 yo.

I read now on the local forum in Spanish a guy " I pay between 50 k and 2 million COP". 2 million!

What are these girls? Are they from TV? Are they from Chicas car Audio contest?

Models and prepagos are like fronstage I'm model, backstage I'm prepago.

Even back to 2010, my friend from ColombianCupid; she was officially student, also fluent in English, Ac Models, and then, I discovered prepago, no big surprise, but I surfed on [URL]Cam.com[/URL] and found here there by coincidence. She, who was so classy on the catwalk at PremiumPlaza, was sucking on a violet dildo. This seem to be the rule in Colombia as we gringos and European can pay what local rich guyas can, often if not always; so we get access to this kind of Godddeses, watch them on catwalk, then find her contacts, always a special story for everyone is different, special, but somehow, many are available, and that is impossible here in Europe or the USA.

If I don't post one of three things:

Dead or seriously injured.

I am not in Medellin.

I am on an Epic run.

I am in Medellin at my hotel. This run started Tuesday night around 8:30. I had no plans, in fact on my mind was that I finally might get a good night's sleep.

Without any notice it started. Max time between girls has been 4 hours. Epic night with Sexy Dexy, only the second time I have seen her this trip. Two of my chicas in the top five met for the first time, Scarlet and Sexy Dexy. A tad bit icey but that's when my system kicks in to hopefully keep the peace. Scarlet is current Number Two and Sexy used to be a Number Two and Sexy wants her position back.

I am trying to remember the names of all the chicas who have been through here since the run started. I can't. Caribe just overlapped with Purrfekt Piel who is here now. Caribe is not even on the list although I can tell she is thinking about it.

Ostee Out. The end is not clearly in sight. Managerette scheduled after Purrfekt, then Spanish Teacher for her first overnight. Someone pilfered 200 mil COP of my money but I deserved it for laying it out there like Papaya. This run has not come cheap, but in the end it all balances out.

Full on ripoff. Kept closing her legs off and demanding lube which she applied extremely slowly (stall). Then kept insisting that I pull out so she could change her position on the bed, so she's having sex while constantly refusing sex. I called it after 15 minutes and she did a sit in demanding full payment under threat of calling the cops, Costa Rica style. You're warned. Have fun and be safe out there gentlemen.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100075882065249[/URL]

Avoid, additional info, says she is from the Buenos Aires neighborhood.

Catalina Marin.

I've read many times on this website that some enjoy the "camaraderie" of meeting other gringo punters.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2661272]What did this benefit you since like another poster said you can not rent a room by the hour or half day? You just paid money to sit at a pool and look at 3 chicks?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2661770]Full on ripoff. Kept closing her legs off and demanding lube which she applied extremely slowly (stall). Then kept insisting that I pull out so she could change her position on the bed, so she's having sex while constantly refusing sex. I called it after 15 minutes and she did a sit in demanding full payment under threat of calling the cops, Costa Rica style. You're warned. Have fun and be safe out there gentlemen.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100075882065249[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow she is one of the FB chicks on my whatsapp saying she down. She cute to would have prob tried. Big thanks Paulie97!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2661602]Oh boy, you might be like a train wreck here for the first few days when you see all the eye candy in Medellin, and are walking around with a hard on. LOL.

I get excited like you about coming here, typically within a few weeks of being gone from here.[/QUOTE]No worries buddy, I got this. I will try not to bang everything with a pulse (just realized that may not be entirely honest). The tough part is going to not order a prepagios the night I fly in, I will be exhausted and probably won't be settled in till 1 am. Definitely want to be fresh for the next day, got to run some errands (get a sim card, do some shopping for stuff for the apartment) and I don't want to be wasted for Saturday night.

How do the ladies respond to have plenty of sex toys about the place? Because that could be fun.

Also is there anything you guys recommend to have on hand for the ladies, just as nice touch? Booze? Skin care products? Mangos? From I understand probably would not be a bad idea to have the herb on hand.

Judging from what Osteoknot is posting, I think I will have a very good time indeed. Dude is just living his best life right now.

I don't know what to call this, the ultimate irony? Caribe, not even on my Top Ten list (yet?) never asks me for money, not even cab fare. Usually I give her 40 mil when she leaves so she can take a taxi and get something to eat. She works night shifts in a Web cam studio. She is a paranoid schizophrenic maintained on risperidone. She gets jealous and even a little mad when she can't see me because I am with other girls, but she knows how I roll and so far she keeps coming back.

Well, probably one reason she comes knocking on my door every morning, is she does not have a bed. She had been crashing here at my hotel with me, or with a friend, or in an empty room at the studio.

She asked me to buy her a bed, after I don't know how many visits, nine? I don't know what kind of bed you can get for 300 mil COP ($75 USD), but that is what asked for, and that is what I gave her. She is so happy. Not giving a girl like that who is literally the best fuck in my lineup 300 mil pesos when she needs it would be slimy and too decadent for someone in my position. Yeah, I know what you're thinking. Too decadent for Asti?? You don't know me. No brainer.

Sexually, she is a thoroughbred. She loves sex. She chants it sometimes. She is the only girl I can remember who gets to me tap out during sex, but she will have none of it. She drags me back to bed until she has one of her earth quaking orgasms. Those boobs are natural. Her pussy is amazing and her ass is large and muscular. I made a small comment that she was quite a bit heavier than when I first met her and she lost 5 pounds in one week.

We are definitely not in Kansas anymore, Toto.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2661396]Name a 15 year period in history with negative or zero inflation every year. Since 1960 the US has had negative inflation once -0.36% in 2009. In 2015 it was 0. 12%. From 1979-81 inflation rate was 11.25% 13.55% and 10.33%.[/QUOTE]Somehow I knew you would challenge me on this, and I was not up to to checking the historical inflation rates in the US.

Well, señor Villainy below seems to have dig out some historical rates that show that inflation or deflation can happen anytime for long period of time. In fact, I am pretty sure that in the 19th century, there were many long periods of deflation.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2661283]Exactly. How much has the price of rent increased? How much has the price of a taxi ride increased?...[/QUOTE]I think bar rent at Nana plaza has increased.

New gringo here. I'll be visiting Medellin soon. Likely staying in El Poblado. Will have a friend with me, but I'd like to be able to go out solo and procure some beautiful Colombian working girls.

Can someone experienced in these affairs share their knowledge of the best methods to procure prostitutes? I'm aware of there being streetwalkers around La Veracruz, centro, parque Lleras. But what kind of information can you all share with me that will be safe, reliable, and help me make the most out of the 10 days? Feel free to reply here. My DMs are also open.

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[QUOTE=AmoMedellin;2661647]I paid 400 k for 90 minutes.

She was unbelievably beautiful. With sublime implants in her cinnamon coloured butt and tits. She ws so perfect it was almost tooo much, also very nice personality, 20 yo.

I read now on the local forum in Spanish a guy " I pay between 50 k and 2 million COP". 2 million!

What are these girls? Are they from TV? Are they from Chicas car Audio contest?

Models and prepagos are like fronstage I'm model, backstage I'm prepago.

Even back to 2010, my friend from ColombianCupid; she was officially student, also fluent in English, Ac Models, and then, I discovered prepago, no big surprise, but I surfed on [URL]Cam.com[/URL] and found here there by coincidence. She, who was so classy on the catwalk at PremiumPlaza, was sucking on a violet dildo. This seem to be the rule in Colombia as we gringos and European can pay what local rich guyas can, often if not always; so we get access to this kind of Godddeses, watch them on catwalk, then find her contacts, always a special story for everyone is different, special, but somehow, many are available, and that is impossible here in Europe or the USA.[/QUOTE]Haha a post that is almost 10 years ago is getting quoted. This is me wanting to do my top 5 retired list. I actually thought about it recently because I saw my fav of all time. Kathy is out of the game officially. She would disapear from time to time but its going on over a year which is the longest I ever seen her bounce for.