What's the annual turnover(revenue) of the Palace?
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What's the annual turnover(revenue) of the Palace?
[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]What's the annual turnover(revenue) of the Palace?[/QUOTE]
Call and ask.
Have fun,
Novize
All 4 Bb,
You can probably turn in the World one. Gastronomie just means restaurant or catering. I googled it and nothing came up. If you google the whole Dagmar Lerch Vermietungs GMBH, then one of the three results is Palace, so you might not want to turn that one in.
Depending on how long your company keeps records and what your political aspirations are, you might want to think twice about fucking on the company dime.
Peter
I never keep the receipts from my visits, I always pay cash, never anything that is traceable like credit or debit cards.
All For Bb,
On this one I am completely with CBGBC:
[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]I never keep the receipts from my visits, I always pay cash, never anything that is traceable like credit or debit cards.[/QUOTE]
The receipts from all FKKs are purposely kept neutral-sounding so that wifes looking into credit card statements are not tipped off right away. So they make it sound like a normal restaurant bill. I would be very nervous to leave traces for my wife, and that's why I never pay with anything but cash at any FKK.
But running the FKK receipt through an expense account as a dinner is way too bold for me to consider. Depending on what country you live in, this actually constitutes a reaon for getting fired. You may want to think this one over ...
Cheers
euro
I agree. Why take the chance for a measly 65E. If it is an American company, you will surely get canned. Odds are some prude will have heard about a FKK from a bragging friend and they will take the opportunity to make you an example and to proseletize about the evils of sex!
On the other hand, how many Europeans have turned in such receipts as business expenses for entertaining clients!
Thanks to the French, the Euro is starting to come down in value, it was nearly $1.30 and is now in the $1.20 range. Though I wouldn't be surprised if it continues to fluctuate depending upon what W and his Neocons do over the next few years.
I have a question that hopefully some of you seasoned pros can help me with. What do you guys talk to the girls about! I've been to the Palace a handful of times and I find it hard to make small talk with the girls. I look around and everyone is sitting with a girl talking. For some reason, that doesn't happen with me. The language barrier is a problem sometimes, but even the girls that speak enough english rarely sit and talk. I know they must get tired of the same questions, ie: Where are you from? How long have you worked here? How old are you?, so I try to avoid questions like that, but what does that leave? Help me out, guys!
Thanks,
Jaas
is possible about nearly every issue that is of interest for both.
As a regular guest in FKK-clubs it´s not easy to answer your questions, because I find someone I know in every location. And once you know a woman a little bit, it´s easy...
I suggest to avoid questions related to the girl´s job or asking the girl to meet outside the club. Political issues are not a good idea, either...
Ah, and sports. Don´t talk about sports. Most women hate it. Sports ruins the business... I often ask girls if they like football. But I´m prepared for the answer... ;)
You can approach a girl by just introducing yourself and asking for her name and where she´s from. I admit that this is not a really inventive approach, but the girls will answer politely and most of them will try to keep the conversation going on - that´s part of their job. If not, you can be happy to get rid of her before the clock starts to run.
You can show some interest in her homecountry, compliment her on her language skills (if existent), on her appearance, on her tattoes, make-up and so on.
Sometimes I like to "compliment" them on their clothing: "Great towel, D&G?", or "You need these shoes to have a look over the bar?". I experienced that girls not reacting positively on an approach like this are not the ones I´ll have a good session with.
It´s not necessary to be originally - just be authentic. If possible, react on a current situation. Or just lean back, smile at the girls and let them do the approach. Then you just have to answer her introduction. And if it doesn´t "click", don´t go for a session.
Have fun,
Novize
Jaas - Just to echo Novize's and Peter's (Palace thread). perfect replies They are 100% right I think. Although of course it depends what you want out of a session. In my experience a session with a girl always goes best if they are willing to talk about things (life, death, boyfriend trouble, the price of their new ring, how long it takes to do their make-up, how other clients treat them, the weather, their sons and daughters, where is best to work etc). If the conversation takes a light hearted turn then that's fine, if it turns to serious matters then that works as well. They often ask me about my family, my work and so on: sometimes it is nice for them to know about their clients.
Where else can you get sex and talking therapy combined for 50Euros? A bargain. (Ok - I know that is a rarity but it indicates how well it can go at its best)
If a girl is not willing to open up and talk a bit then the chances are she won't open up physically either. The key for me is to treat them as equals - that immediately marks you out from many of the clients who disrespect the girls. Not all clients are as considerate as wsg members. And taking an interest in them is always welcome - if it's not then I doubt the session will be good.
The only danger is that if the talking gets good then I end up paying a fortune!!
Shiatsu,
Since I sometimes end up talking for more than 2 hours with the girls, I tend to stick to the Düsseldorf area clubs because the additional time is cheaper.
I was in a room for 3 hours with Natasha once and we had sex, but mainly talked. She wanted absolutely no money and after me arguing for quite a while she ended up accepting 75€ from me. I started at 175€, but she kept saying no, she doesn't take money for talking to me. We've known each other for years though.
Sorry, It is outdated and some clubs are closed, but I am just reposting it:
Age range generally 18-30. Most girls are in the 21-26 range. I find most girls under 21 can't mentally cope with the job and offer worse service. there are some girls out there who are over 30, but not all that many. The pictures are of typical girls who are working in the better clubs. check out the Wildenrath home page, where I have the pictures from. I find they have the most attractive girls at the moment.
Looks also go the range, from some 4-6's and on a good night a lot of 8+'s. I am quite young and know a lot of really hot chicks, but Atlantis in the old days was full of girls I thought were really good looking. Now it can be hit and miss. at World last time I went there were only 4 girls who were 8+ and at least 20 who I wouldn't screw with someone elses dick. At Wildenrath there are about 8 girls from 20 who I consider 8+, but a couple of months ago the numbers looked very different.
I'll include a picture of Natascha from Wildenrath who is German and 24 years old and provides a really good service. she really gets into it, and when I went down on her and started fingering her while licking her ass she said, "wow, you'R wild and really know how to work a girls body" and she meant it.
Natascha
Just so that it doesn't look like I am advertising for Wildenrath (which is my favourite club by a long shot) I will give my honest opinion of the pro's and cons of that and other clubs. All pictures are from their home pages, but are all accurate and hardly any are retouched.
Wildenrath :
Pro's : Great girls, familial atmosphere, cleanliness, free beer (only here and Happy Garden have beer), good and plentiful food, Sauna (which I have never used) outdoor terrace and a big lawn, attractive pricing for longer term bookers like me (each addtional 30 mins is 25€, and you only pay for each additional service once)
Con's : Not a mega club (so only 15-20 women on an average night, Sometimes a strange crowd (especially when the gypsys come), no pool or hottub facility, girls are not naked
Wildenrath Terrace
Happy Garden
Pretty much the same as Wildenrath except with more women (although in my opinion not more good looking ones) and they don't have food fo as long (it goes away quickly).
PHG
Babylon:
Pro's: Young girls, BBBJ to warm up on the couch, guaranteed DFK, they offer a decent buffet again, women are fully naked
Con's: I am not convinced on the cleanliness, especially in the contact room, the pricing structure is a bit steep, The customer base is quite old and seems to be regular.
Babylon
Atlantis (to be honest I haven't been there for 1.5 years)
Pros : Sheer volume of women, indoor and outdoor pool, hot tubs and multiple saunas, women are fully naked
Cons: I think the entrance fee is high and the pricing is higher than the clubs around düsseldorf, especially for extras, The cleanliness of the changing rooms, especially showers leaves a lot to be desired. Has the feeling of a Fuck Factory, small rooms etc. Not a very personal feel, some people don't like the dark lighting, buffet is not everyday.
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World (Been there twice and probably won't be back for a while)
Pro's: Nicest facilities you can humanly imagine. Indoor and outdoor pool, 2 hot tubs, movie room, massage facilites (additional cost, but real licensed masseur), Saunas, large landscaped garden with multiple huts and lounge chairs outside, full buffet all day long, very clean
Con's: In my opinion the worst selection of girls around, too few toilets, same price structure as atlantis
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I could go on forever, I have been to tonnes of Clubs: Oase,
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Sylt Nürnberg, Fantasyland, Relax, Parkschloss Dali, Freudenbergstr., Herne, dortmund, La Folie Berlin, Heavensgate, Wiago, Dolce Vita and diverse other clubs. Each club has its own charms and I like going to a new one every once in a while. I have my home club (wildenrath) but I always like to see what the others have to offer.
Hope this has been of help,
Peter
Oase is 30 minutes north of Frankfurt
World is 50 minutes north of Frankfurt and 20 minutes from Oase and 30 minutes from Atlantis
Fantasyland (Which I think has a new name now) is about 1 Hour from Frankfurt and halfway between Frankfurt and Cologne/Düsseldorf (these cities are 15 minutes apart).
Cologne Düsseldorf are about 200 KM north of Frankfurt. The A3 is the main highway joining the two areas, and Oase and World are more on the A5 (which runs sort of parallel)
Babylon is 30 minutes from Cologne and also 30 minutes from Düsseldorf, directly between them and due west.
Planet Happy Garden is about 30 minutes North West of Düsseldorf.
Parksauna Wildenrath is about 30 minutes Due West of Düsseldorf and about 20 minutes from Happy Garden.
The Red Carpet Clubs are a group of about 9 clubs located along the A40 and A42 highway between Essen and Dortmund. These clubs are called that becasue they all have the same owner and the same red carpet, their pricing is similar and quite cheap with 20 minute sessions including BBBJ at 25€ and entrance fees of between 20 and 35€. These clubs are not as luxurious and sometimes the service is so/so, but sometimes you hit a jewel.
Heavens Gate is about 40 minutes northeast of Düsseldorf.
Parkschloss Dali is about 1 hour East of Dortmund.
The two main FKK centers in Germany are Frankfurt and Cologne/Düsseldorf.
Frankfurt has the 3 mega-clubs, which are just much larger than any other club in Germany.
Cologne/Düsseldorf is the traditional home of FKK's and where they started (Bernd's Schieferhof about 20 years ago). these clubs are smaller and a little more homey, they don't have multiple pools and whirlpools and such, they are usually just rebuilt houses and alot have 12-20 girls working. the pricing scheme is also different club to club, but in general the ones in Cologne Düsseldorf are a little cheaper, or at least extras or add on time is cheaper.
If you are planning a trip to FKK's stick to these two areas. If you have a week and enough cash (about 350€ a day = entrance fee (average 50) + 3 sessions daily (about 175) + rental car (50) + gas (25) + cheap motel (50)) then I would do one day each at Atlantis, Oase &World, then head up do a short stop at Fantasyland on the same day go to Babylon and stay somewhere their, then you can go to Happy Garden in the morning and at midnight when they close or when you think you've seen all the talent head to Wildenrath which on Friday and Saturday stays open until 4AM (I would spend more time at wildenrath, but that is just my prerogative) then you can sample some of the Red Carpet clubs to bring your average cost down, and then finishe off a night in Park Schloss Dali which closes at 5AM. From there you can head down the highway back towards Frankfurt and finish you final day ine whichever of the 3 frankfurt clubs was your favourite (on that day you could skip a hotel completely) and then catch a flight home. even if you are young you might want to invest in Viagra before that sort of schedule, but it is possible.
Map
Best resource for research is Kaleus list [url]http://www.kaleus-clubindex.de.vu/[/url]
Hope this helps
Peter
Just a quick update on my list.
There is a new club called Goldentime on the same street as Wildenrath about 12km away. This club is excellent from both facilities as well as the calibre of girls. It is developing itself to one of the top clubs in Germany. Basically the ´Golden Triangle of Wildenrath, Goldentime and Planet Happy Garden has developed itself to the best triumvirate of clubs in Germany, surpassing what World, Oase and Atlantis used to be. These are not megaclubs, but they are excellent, and the service and the girls and the pricing are superior to what is offered in the frankfurt area.
I must also note that Atlantis is closed and will probably remain so forever!
Peter
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Babylon:
Pro's: Young girls, BBBJ to warm up on the couch, guaranteed DFK, they offer a decent buffet again, women are fully naked
Con's: I am not convinced on the cleanliness, especially in the contact room, the pricing structure is a bit steep, The customer base is quite old and seems to be regular.
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I actually have to correct you on Babylon, I recently visited the club in April, and it was the first time I visited the place since August 2001, nearly four years. The experience was like meeting a long lost beautiful woman after many years and finding out the years weren't kind. Half of the women were well over 40, and there was this really tall one past her prime that was making passes at me, she was nice, but not what I would expect at this club. There were only about five women in their 20's and I think the best looking one was a 7. The buffet was mainly pasta with ragu and some kind of mystery meat, with salad. I never eat at clubs anyway because fucking on a full stomach makes me nauseous. However, the main attraction of this club, young sweaty and very luscious young women were not present. And on the afternoon I went all of the women were wearing clothes. Also I noticed the sweet smell of candy cinammon flavored gum emanating from the breaths of beautiful sweaty nude European women was replaced by the smell of Mr. Clean. Babylon isn't such a great club anymore. I couldn't believe this was the same club where I met that gorgeous mixed race German woman a few years earlier.
I visited a small place called FKK-Burg that same day on the outskirts of Bonn, it was a fairly modest club, but had two very hot German women on staff, one a Heather Locklear lookalike, the other a Paris Hilton clone. There was a third, who looked like Lois Lane from the first Superman movie, who didn't speak much English. Its near the Duisdorf Bahnhof in an alley near the Sparkasse Bonn.
CBGB,
I haven't been there in a hell of a long time. Haven't really missed it. If I want to work near their price structure I would go to Schieferhof.
But your experience in Burg shows that any club, with any number of girls could be really good, all they need are 2-4 hot girls, and that is possible among 5 just as it is possible that it is not the case among 40.
Can someone advise me as to whether there are any FKK clubs close to Aachen please.
Thanks