Monterrey

Live, what MP on Alameda???
Need more descriptions to identify it... and then again, maybe they don't have a website..




[QUOTE=LiveForToday]I will be in Monterrey Aug the 30 thru Sept 4, this will be my 4 trip, can anyone give me the adres or web site to the MP on Alameda, and a few more MP in the area?[/QUOTE]

Both of you guys USB and Wasted... do not mess with X girls esposa AKA as that girl.
Am not kidding... you see it as laughing matter but I see it as SERIOUS matter.
You partake things as if you are confortably sitting in the US, but you are dabbling in stuff you never take seriously.

Just consider that X's esposo had the nerve to ask USB about X and she specillly asked about Wasted... and either both of you are dumb, but she is starting to add 2+2=5... she is thinking wrong that the answer to finding her and maybe the blame that she is gone befalls on the gringos.

When are both of you going to take the business seriously and treat it with respect, not with contempt???

Let me tell you that in all my years this is the first time I see a ho asking a customer about her girl.. even lesbian lovers.

Please start taking very carefully.

Iam astounded that just for thrill seeking both of you are getting into the mess of a couple splitting, but not an ordinary couple, I mean a lesbian hooker and very disturbed couple.

What part of this do you not understand???

Let me tell you how seriously I see this: If you keep up with this plain, childish, stupidity, Iam not going to let myself be seen with you at either the Infinito nor the Givenchy

Am not kidding....

Iam local... you guys can run away. Not me.





[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]My "G" girl does not dictate...it is my own, self-imposed restraint, tied directly to strategy, and also out of respect for my amigos that I find other options. In addition, I try to be something different than my "G" girl is used to. I have so many options to play on the side, that I simply do not have to risk my interactions with her by by molesting other girls in her same bar.

Because, literally, in MTY there are hundreds of options open to me. I really don't have to molest the girlfriends of my amigos. There are more girls to go around than you could shake a stick at. I realize the girls are there, doing their jobs. But, if I know an amigo feels something for one of theirs, I will only be friends with the girl, and also because I feel that I am something different to my "G" girl, and I enjoy seeing her enjoy that distinction.

By the way, when I was just in Givenchy a few minutes ago, your "X" girl's esposo contacted me out of the blue, seeing me from across the room. I have never formerly met her, and did not know her formerly as such. She knew me this time, for some odd reason, just like my face had been on the ten most wanted list. I remember last month when I had found her working in Givenchy that I thought she was pretty HOT, thin, etc...and I had taken her into the privados. Turns out, it was your "X" girls esposo, but I did not know it at the time. I did not follow all that drama, plus she is a night shift girl, and at the time, I was more involved with my G girl to pay attention to what was going on with the night shift. Her esposo told me that she left Infinito because there was simply too much jealousy between the two girls. I assume X is now at Pasarelas for the same reason.

Anyway, in talking to her tonight, she did not remember going into the privados with me last month, and last month, she had no clue who I was...just another MF to her. I remember thinking that she was pretty HOT, and I even asked her the cost of going on a salida and was quoted 2000 pesos for her part, plus the bar fine. She did not remember talking to me last month.

Somehow, between my one and only prior contact with her and tonight, she is well aware of my identity, and actually sent a waiter over to me to deliver a note from her asking me, "Hi, no has, visto a "X." When the waiter delivered it to me, I gazed over in her direction and she had a big smile on her face and waived hello.

She ditched the dude she was with to come over to say hello to me. She asked me to buy her a drink, which I did, primarily so I could see what was on her mind. I guess I was curious more than anything, that she asked me this question in a note, and that she was asking me about "X."

She directly asked me if YOU were in town. I decided that I would not disclose to her that you were coming in, thinking that it may complicate your efforts at hooking up with "X." So, I told her that you were not in town, and that I did not know anything about anything.

So, you see, while you are molesting my "G" girl behind my back, I am taking consumate care of you, the devoted and sincere friend that I am, verdad?

Here is a further explanation of my reasoning with respect to the exclusivity angle...

I believe that there is a definite kind of pride within their bar. They love having a "loyal" and "faithful" patron. It establishes social status for them within the pecking order of their bar, and to have loyal patrons that seek no others gives them that sociological bar girl pride.

That is what I give her by being faithful to her within her own bar. It has nothing really to do with my being naive about what she does in her job. It is more that I am giving her a gift by wanting to only see her. I am giving her a gift out of my appreciation for her.

If she chooses to do otherwise to me, then it reflects on her, but my own conscience is clear, and my intensions, to give her something in return for her appreciation of me when we are together, is my reason for not seeing others in her same bar. Besides, I have so many other options in the countless other bars...giving her such a gift is easy for me to do, and I see the pride she has from believing that I am devoted to her.

And, the truth is, were I to have the option, I would select her each and every time over all the others. So, my gift to her is based on a legitimate preference to see her over the others that are otherwise available to me in other bars.

:D (I forgot to say that I did not forget to put a smile :D)[/QUOTE]

If you can give me some address of some MP, up town, I know the Madero area, so I will have an idea were to go. Il be staying in the Padre Meir area?

Your message can not be any clearer.

It's the thrill of the hunt that gets me in situations like these. And you are correct. I admit I am excited about the idea but if I think with my upper head instead of my lower, I should see things your way.

I do see it as a laughing matter and an experience I can treasure. But will the price be worth the experience? Probably not.

Wasted

[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]Both of you guys USB and Wasted... do not mess with X girls esposa AKA as that girl.
Am not kidding... you see it as laughing matter but I see it as SERIOUS matter.
You partake things as if you are confortably sitting in the US, but you are dabbling in stuff you never take seriously.

Just consider that X's esposo had the nerve to ask USB about X and she specillly asked about Wasted... and either both of you are dumb, but she is starting to add 2+2=5... she is thinking wrong that the answer to finding her and maybe the blame that she is gone befalls on the gringos.

When are both of you going to take the business seriously and treat it with respect, not with contempt???

Let me tell you that in all my years this is the first time I see a ho asking a customer about her girl.. even lesbian lovers.

Please start taking very carefully.

Iam astounded that just for thrill seeking both of you are getting into the mess of a couple splitting, but not an ordinary couple, I mean a lesbian hooker and very disturbed couple.

What part of this do you not understand???

Let me tell you how seriously I see this: If you keep up with this plain, childish, stupidity, Iam not going to let myself be seen with you at either the Infinito nor the Givenchy

Am not kidding....

Iam local... you guys can run away. Not me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]Both of you guys USB and Wasted... do not mess with X girls esposa AKA as that girl.[/QUOTE]

I understand your apprehension at being dragged into the circumstance between X and her esposo, but I would not even conteplate not going to Givenchy and Pasarelas, my two most favorite bars, with my amigos, regardless of the circumstances.

I guess my point here is that if we really are concerned about being in the middle, we would have to avoid those bars all together, because, whether you like it or not, you and I are inextricably linked to WastedG, and his girl, by association.

Keep in mind, when I bought "X"s esposo a drink, I was totally alone, and I did not know who she was. I have stopped buying "X" drinks at Pasarelas, which I have only done one time, and have not done now for two days, and now, knowing whom she is, I will no longer patronize her esposo either at Givenchy.

Those are just two of the plethera of crazy bar girls in these clubs. I agree with you that WastedG needs to consider his options carefully, and that he should consider the potential downside. But, if I were to completely extract myself from the situation, it would mean that I must not only avoid paretaking in the delights of El Infinito for "G" girl reasons, but also avoid Givenchy and Pasarelas for fear that I might be a casualty as an innocent bystander.

I would NEVER consider limiting my brand of activity, partying with my amigos in my three most favorite bars, on account of a couple of nutty bar girls.

One can reach the same conclusions about associating with hos in general, that it is a pass time that has the potential to ultimately ruin us, especially those of us in our respective positions. So, the advice to avoid these kinds of girls, when there are so many of them (crazy) represented in the bars of MTY in general, far more than just "X "and her esposo, is to contemplate retirement from the hobby, verdad?

My take on this is to be cordual to all concerned, not participate in the charade between them, and simply be a bystander in an environment where we expose ourselves continually and routinely to our potential ultimate decline in the long run anyway.

To do otherwise is to also contemplate just staying home...I understand your apprehension due to your living in MTY, but I can't be a jerk to girls that have done nothing to me. I prefer to just play nice, to act dumb around them, and not patronize them...that is my position going forward.

Everyone is always talking about having the "control." That would be the ultimate loss of control if I were to have to avoid congregating in my favorite bars with my amigos on account of a couple of crazy bar girls.

Consider the implications of your position Carlos. That gives them all the control. Your appeal is with WastedG, and it seems that he understands your apprehension. I expect he will seriously consider your position, and contemplate the effect of your apprehensions upon his own strategic plans and activities with his "X" girl.

For my part...I am done with it, but only to the extent that I am not an unknown to them, and neither are you, whether you are alone or with us. They will never believe we are not in continual contact with one another.

Ok with the "loud and clear".
So to seal our deal, Wasted, I suggest we share the Infinito G-girl between the 2 of us.
I mean, USB is a friend he SHOULD share.

Agree?

[QUOTE=Wastedgman]Your message can not be any clearer.

It's the thrill of the hunt that gets me in situations like these. And you are correct. I admit I am excited about the idea but if I think with my upper head instead of my lower, I should see things your way.

I do see it as a laughing matter and an experience I can treasure. But will the price be worth the experience? Probably not.

Wasted[/QUOTE]

It is, I suppose, up to "my" G Girl. One thing I have learned...when it comes to true romance, we males are definitely NOT in control, no matter if we might think we are in control, or try to be. It is the law of nature...

Funny thing was, when I was in the privados with her on Saturday, she brought the subject of her silicone boobs up, saying they are "not too hard," trying to convince me that they are not too hard and firm as I have suggested is my distaste for them in general.

She encouraged me then and there to road test them again so she could convince me that I might like them now that she "told" me they are not too hard, as if telling me would change everthing, and that I would be convinced if I just fondled them one more time. Actually, exposing me to them more and more is a good strategy on her part.

I have to admit, they are not as hard as some....I guess she is converting me with the shear strength of her charming personality. I love her dearly.

Please....if you know what is good for you both, you will leave my G girl alone or I will sic "X" and her esposo on you by having some clandestined conversations with them in Pasarelas and Givenchy, planting seeds of deceit and discontent. I just want one girl...can't a guy be fiel to his hos??? :D

[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]Ok with the "loud and clear".
So to seal our deal, Wasted, I suggest we share the Infinito G-girl between the 2 of us.
I mean, USB is a friend he SHOULD share.

Agree?[/QUOTE]

Live... the Padre Mier area only has the Stauts #1 MP to the West of the main downtown area.. as a matter of fact on Padre Mier St, close to Venustiano Carranza.

You have to go North of Padre Mier to find MPs.
Intenzzo for example, is on Rayon St bordered by Juan Ignacion Rayon and Matamoros.

Misses is on Tapia St. (web site: [url]www.misses.com.mx[/url])

Dunno if you know Signore ([url]www.signore.com.mx[/url])

Or Marcella ([url]www.pompis.com.mx[/url])

But if you know Madero St, that is the place to be for MPs.... there are more on the fringe area of the downtown area, boasting they are better than the rest.
Those are to the West of Diego de Montemayor St.
INcluded are: Romanos, Horoscope, Habana, Deborah's and Status #2


[QUOTE=LiveForToday]If you can give me some address of some MP, up town, I know the Madero area, so I will have an idea were to go. Il be staying in the Padre Meir area?[/QUOTE]

ha ha. You mean we stand in line waiting for her to take us one at a time while Bob watches? Better yet, let's line the girl up and take them all up, play musical chairs with them. Imagine the traffic with P running from m e to Bob, D running from you to me, P G running from Bob to you, Bob running from P to you, you running from .... where were you? ummm .. to Bob. You and Bob together in one booth? Me ending up with all three girls? Is that what you mean?

OK. I'll do it.


[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]Ok with the "loud and clear".
So to seal our deal, Wasted, I suggest we share the Infinito G-girl between the 2 of us.
I mean, USB is a friend he SHOULD share.

Agree?[/QUOTE]

Exactly.... good idea, ain't it???


[QUOTE=Wastedgman]ha ha. You mean we stand in line waiting for her to take us one at a time while Bob watches? Better yet, let's line the girl up and take them all up, play musical chairs with them. Imagine the traffic with P running from m e to Bob, D running from you to me, P G running from Bob to you, Bob running from P to you, you running from .... where were you? ummm .. to Bob. You and Bob together in one booth? Me ending up with all three girls? Is that what you mean?

OK. I'll do it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]Exactly.... good idea, ain't it???[/QUOTE]


I am not worried...After seeing the depth of her passions yesterday and feeling her "commitment" last night, SHE WON'T knowingly do it to me...hahahahahahahahahaha :D

Sure, she has her job...which she loathes to the extent that it's akin to cleaning toilets at Dodger Stadium...but, I also know the depth of responsibility to her mother, her son, and the effects on her from an irresponsible family. She has little choice. She is burdened with the responsibility, having the destinction of being sole provider for others in her family that are either too sick to contribute, too lazy, too irresponsible, or too young.

We hear this stuff articulated from girls all the time. But, I am becoming increasingly convinced that there are some girls doing it out of legitimate need, and some that are doing it because they are simply lazy and rotten girls.

My "G" girl IS an angel locked in her own kind of hell. She routinely criticizes her own behavior, and is visibly depressed at the thought of what she has had to become. She is not the typical ho.

As MJ once suggested, I am seriously considering paying her to get out of the biz. We will see what that entails. But, frankly, when I come to MTY lately, I routinely spend about $1200 on entertainment, entertainment that is nowhere near the satsifaction I get from my G girl. I would gladly give it to her were she to work a regular job and take my supplemental income each month, seeing me for the week I am here. I would take her over any of the pros in the clubs, bar none, and by a really WIDE margain.

usb says: "as mj once suggested, i am seriously considering paying her to get out of the biz."

this doesn't work at all... it is only a palliative.
it is not only paying her to stop working, she has to learn to save, to administer, to know how banks work.

it is not just doing a one time payment thing, buy her enough time to let her find another job...

and precisely at this moment you are catching her in a crisis you should distance yourslef away from.
and iam not kidding... samething but different as we have been telling wasted.
literally it is none of your business to be involved with a ho up to consider retiring her, nor are you the good samaritan to be helping others without considering the moral and psycological consequences on your person.

you are dealing with a total misunderstood empathy that is making you dizzy.

these are going to be harsh words, but she is in a hole that she can not climb out of unless lots of time and effort are dedicated to do it.

there are other parameters to be taken in consideration... you may want to make her quit of her job so she can do something else.... can she?
she has a speech impediment that will block her.

the most important one: how about the family? it is universal, not limited to hos: you may want to extend the hand of help, but others close to her may want to rip it off just to get to the money.

you are aproaching a decision without really knowing her at all.

on the long run you'll pay too much for too little...



[quote=unospongebob]i am not worried...after seeing the depth of her passions yesterday and feeling her "commitment" last night, she won't knowingly do it to me...hahahahahahahahahaha :d

sure, she has her job...which she loathes to the extent that it's akin to cleaning toilets at dodger stadium...but, i also know the depth of responsibility to her mother, her son, and the effects on her from an irresponsible family. she has little choice. she is burdened with the responsibility, having the destinction of being sole provider for others in her family that are either too sick to contribute, too lazy, too irresponsible, or too young.

we hear this stuff articulated from girls all the time. but, i am becoming increasingly convinced that there are some girls doing it out of legitimate need, and some that are doing it because they are simply lazy and rotten girls.

my "g" girl is an angel locked in her own kind of hell. she routinely criticizes her own behavior, and is visibly depressed at the thought of what she has had to become. she is not the typical ho.

as mj once suggested, i am seriously considering paying her to get out of the biz. we will see what that entails. but, frankly, when i come to mty lately, i routinely spend about $1200 on entertainment, entertainment that is nowhere near the satsifaction i get from my g girl. i would gladly give it to her were she to work a regular job and take my supplemental income each month, seeing me for the week i am here. i would take her over any of the pros in the clubs, bar none, and by a really wide margain.[/quote]

[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]I am not worried...After seeing the depth of her passions yesterday and feeling her "commitment" last night, SHE WON'T knowingly do it to me...hahahahahahahahahaha :D

Sure, she has her job...which she loathes to the extent that it's akin to cleaning toilets at Dodger Stadium...but, I also know the depth of responsibility to her mother, her son, and the effects on her from an irresponsible family. She has little choice. She is burdened with the responsibility, having the destinction of being sole provider for others in her family that are either too sick to contribute, too lazy, too irresponsible, or too young.

We hear this stuff articulated from girls all the time. But, I am becoming increasingly convinced that there are some girls doing it out of legitimate need, and some that are doing it because they are simply lazy and rotten girls.

My "G" girl IS an angel locked in her own kind of hell. She routinely criticizes her own behavior, and is visibly depressed at the thought of what she has had to become. She is not the typical ho.

As MJ once suggested, I am seriously considering paying her to get out of the biz. We will see what that entails. But, frankly, when I come to MTY lately, I routinely spend about $1200 on entertainment, entertainment that is nowhere near the satsifaction I get from my G girl. I would gladly give it to her were she to work a regular job and take my supplemental income each month, seeing me for the week I am here. I would take her over any of the pros in the clubs, bar none, and by a really WIDE margain.[/QUOTE]"I routinely spend about $1200 on entertainment,"

I am averaging about $125/week on my non-pro GF. Last weekend, we took a little trip to Reynosa and McAllen TX. With shopping, food, lodging, gas and entertainment, I spent about $175 on her for a three-day period. With the amount of time you spend here (once a month for a one week period) coupled with your incessant desire and infatuation for GFE, you should try to find a non-pro. I am 100 percent positive that you can pull it off.

As for Reynosa, I highly-recommend a bar called Tico's Sports Bar. It is a couple blocks from Sierra Madre Brewing Company. Seven pool tables, security, reasonable drink prices, good hospitality and some non-pro action. Although I was the only gringo in the place, none of the other patrons seemed to mind that I was dating one of their nationals.

The bar also carries all the PPV fights. Fuc_ing Randy Couture is the man. He's like 44-years-old and just participated in one of the greatest UFC fights ever. Forty-fuc_ing-four years-old? Apparantly, he even had his arm broken by a Gonzanga high kick before KO'ing him by GNP.

[quote=carlos perez]usb says: "as mj once suggested, i am seriously considering paying her to get out of the biz."

this doesn't work at all... it is only a palliative.[/quote]

of course, you are correct in your conclusions. i, of course, realize all those things. and, of course, when i broached the subject with her, pressing her on coming up with a number, she couldn't do it, not wanting to make commitments that i think she already knows she can not fulfill to me.

she claims that after we became serious, she no longer went on salidas, almost a year ago she claims. she has been on one with four hombres, all of which she named specifically, all of which i know, myself included in the four. i appreciate that about her, that if she is to be believed, she has ceased that activity for my benefit and at my request.

it is entirely another matter for a girl who makes obscene amounts of money compared to her peers to stop working in the clubs, money she needs for things that are astronomically expensive in the comparison to the expenditures of average mexicanos, medical things, drugs for her mother, support of her entire family, etc....

i, of course, realize all those things. but, it is true, i feel in my soul that she is worthy of rescue. oh, what the hell...i am just going to leave everything status quo. in the light of full intelligent, unemotional, contemplation, we all know that nothing will probably change...and as you said, in light of my personal circumstances, it can't and shouldn't. it is merely a palliative whim, correcto.

i am a softy at heart...you know it. you should have seen me in the pi. i sent my bar fine back home after she cried about being stuck in ac away from her family, not wanting to do that kind of work, etc...she was a total sweetheard, charmed me beyond belief.

but, honestly, to experience the joy on that girl's face, and the excitement in her voice, telling her family by cell phone that she was returning to the southern remote part of the pi, a dream that she just could not believe was possible. it was quite special. even the "hard and fast" infamous porker was touched in our collective van ride to the airport in manila when we all simulataneously departed the pi the same day. according to porker, she has never turned up back in the ac after i sent her home. she is probably starving on some god forsaken remote island near general santos province, about the furthest, most remote, god foresaken place you could live in the pi.

there, i saved at least one sweety from her dreaded fate, verdad? or did i? for the ones that want to be there, i don't care too much about them. but, for ones that it seems to bother, it touches me deeply inside. awwwwwww....at that sweet! :d

your reference to your adventure in pi exactly touches the point.

you just don't know what really happened, do you? you can only suppose.

and again, as i told the good wasted, you are getting into things that go way beyond your comprehension because you can only suppose what their life is, extrapolate a lot and end in knowing nothing.

i don't believe will ever understand what they go thru unless we are in their shoes, getting picked by an unknown stranger and getting paid money for blowing a penis.

get it?
you can only imagine... truth defies any explanation.

again, what i told wasted on his x girl... stay away and don't get involved.

have fun, but just don't get involved.


[quote=unospongebob]of course, you are correct in your conclusions. i, of course, realize all those things. and, of course, when i broached the subject with her, pressing her on coming up with a number, she couldn't do it, not wanting to make commitments that i think she already knows she can not fulfill to me.

she claims that after we became serious, she no longer went on salidas, almost a year ago she claims. she has been on one with four hombres, all of which she named specifically, all of which i know, myself included in the four. i appreciate that about her, that if she is to be believed, she has ceased that activity for my benefit and at my request.

it is entirely another matter for a girl who makes obscene amounts of money compared to her peers to stop working in the clubs, money she needs for things that are astronomically expensive in the comparison to the expenditures of average mexicanos, medical things, drugs for her mother, support of her entire family, etc....

i, of course, realize all those things. but, it is true, i feel in my soul that she is worthy of rescue. oh, what the hell...i am just going to leave everything status quo. in the light of full intelligent, unemotional, contemplation, we all know that nothing will probably change...and as you said, in light of my personal circumstances, it can't and shouldn't. it is merely a palliative whim, correcto.

i am a softy at heart...you know it. you should have seen me in the pi. i sent my bar fine back home after she cried about being stuck in ac away from her family, not wanting to do that kind of work, etc...she was a total sweetheard, charmed me beyond belief.

but, honestly, to experience the joy on that girl's face, and the excitement in her voice, telling her family by cell phone that she was returning to the southern remote part of the pi, a dream that she just could not believe was possible. it was quite special. even the "hard and fast" infamous porker was touched in our collective van ride to the airport in manila when we all simulataneously departed the pi the same day. according to porker, she has never turned up back in the ac after i sent her home. she is probably starving on some god forsaken remote island near general santos province, about the furthest, most remote, god foresaken place you could live in the pi.

there, i saved at least one sweety from her dreaded fate, verdad? or did i? for the ones that want to be there, i don't care too much about them. but, for ones that it seems to bother, it touches me deeply inside. awwwwwww....at that sweet! :d[/quote]