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[QUOTE=Fac50; 1111108]As always. Thanks to everyone for your advice, it has always been helpful.

I'm still relatively new to the p4p and not fully comfortable yet. You can do a search on my posts for the backstory on that.

I'll try to give some brief info on my situation:

Anyway, I feel like the girl I met from princess meets my requirement that I'm attracted to her, she at least has me believing that she's interested, and (again) she at least has me believing that she's in the relatively low (er) risk STD category. Believing is key for me even if the truth is different.

She knows I'm leaving town on Friday and wanted to meet my for lunch before I left (she works nights). If this was a kabakura girl, I know it's just paying to be with her. My question is, since this girl works at a more questionable type place, is it possible to negotiate p4p with her? Or even close the deal as a non p4p? Or is this just a free lunch?

When we were talking at the club, she told me her other job was a 'waitress at a kabakura in roppoingi'. I'm assuming based on where we were when we were talking, if she was a sex worker, she would have just told me at that point and tried to meet up when the club closed. (As an aside, I'm not sure why she'd be a waitress and not a hostess. It probably pays better and has to be better than working at princess).

So any thoughts on what strategy I should use? Since I've already made out with her (I was a little surprised I crossed that line) and felt her up, do I still have to start all over and go nampa since we're not at that club? If she's not a sex worker, and I bring up price, would that kill the mood? I'm guessing the best thing to do is use some of the nampa techniques like go to lunch at one of those private room places and try to be flirty and see where she goes with it.

Sorry for being a rookie, this is definitely not my strong suit. Hopefully at the worse it can provide some comedy for the forum. [/QUOTE]Well working in a questionable place and still not being into the P4P game is possible in Japan. There are all shades in Japan. Met a girl like this once as well, but in my case she just became a friend as I was not the type of guy she wanted as a boyfriend (she called me o-ni-san). I did hook her up upon her own request with a co-worker of mine later, though.

As for your girl you met. As she suggested to meet you fir lunch, I'm pretty sure she likes you and wants some kind of relationship. She either wants you as a friend or a (part time) boyfriend. I suggest you simply ask her which it is.

If its friend she might know other girls who are interested in a relationship with benefits.

If its boyfriend she will still expect presents or money. The thing to be worried about (or not) is that this usually is not a short term thing.

Anyone else tried the asobo app for the iphone? It's one of those sites that try and scam people in buying points in order to send messages, but most girls posting in the "want to meet now" sections are freelancing for 20, 000 for FS + hotel.You get free points for a few things which should allow anyone to set up a few meetings, however it's easy to start loosing points by looking at pictures, etc.So so you know, I mailed 5 girls and got 4 OK on their parts to meet up "from now" only replied to one, she was 24,"gyaru" type, OK looking, but unless her message saying although she wants money, she also wants to have "fun", she was totally a pro, go in, shower, CBJ, FS, go out. It was pretty lousy, but I'm sure it depends highly on the girls.If anyone needs more info, let me know.You do need to be fluent in Japanese to use the system however.Peace

So I went to check out Honimaru today for the first time. It was relatively easy to find since I know shinjuku somewhat well, and it was a great experience.Basically as soon as I got to the entrance the guy outside (who didn't look shady compared to the type of guys who usually stand in front of those places) immediately offered me to check it out, stating their 20 min price of 4000 Yen. I went in and the place was all right, and they were very happy for my business even if I was an inexperienced looking gaijin. I bought the 20 min service and soon the girl came over to where I was seated. I don't really speak Japanese, and the girl didn't speak English either, so we just went straight to business.It was a quick and easy operation. Go in, get it done, go out. I'm taking my friend there sometime when I get the chance to.Also UCLA Little Bears went out of business in Ikebukuro I think (never went to check.) That was the place I used to go to and it was great, so I'm wondering what are good alternatives that are gaijin friendly and provide good service like UCLA Little Bears. While I was walking around Shinjuku I saw a store called UCLA American Crystal I think. Has anyone been there / know about it?

Hello, Does anybody had any experience with Misato from AM? Will be in Japan e / o Jan and think about meeting her.BR

Hmmm. Asked for some advice about a week ago and no replies. This forum isn't as helpful as it used to be. Anyway, I found my answer elsewhere, and might as well make my contribution, although not as useful as it could be due to lack of names of 2 of the 3 girls I saw.First visit. Chose from the photos. Guy looks at my choice and says "Grandma" and points to a different girl. Fine. Girl shows up, not attractive, but youngish girl in good shape. Excellent technique. Had a time constraint and wanted to pop and go, but she went slow and kept me at the edge of ecstacy for the full 20.Second visit. More to choose from, but I chose poorly. Singularly unattractive and old woman comes over. Stiffens me up with her hand and instead of handi-wiping me she goes right down, using her mouth to put on a jimmy. I objected, she insisted and made a motion that we were going to fuck. OK, but I really wanted the CIM, so figured this was a good surprise starter. She mounts me and rides away. Face scrunched up in an unchanging, bored look. Tired of this after a while and wanted to get her off of me and finish properly.Got her off, but she wouldn't remove the rubber. I motioned as to what I wanted, and she refused. Climbed back on and tried to fuck the poision out of me. After a while of that, I pulled her off again. This time I took off the rubber. She wouldn't go down on me. I stood up and started putting my pants back on. She pulled me down and motioned like she would do it. Then she proceeded to give me a handy. When it was clear nothing more was coming and she still refused to blow me, I got up again. She pulled me down again and this time finally went down on me. Used her hand mostly, with only the tip in her mouth. I was bored and pissed by this time so I made her stop and got up and asked for another girl.Had to pay again. I asked the guy in Japanese which one he would pick. He pointed to the same one that two days before he called a Grandma. I reminded him of that. He said she was full figured and pointed to another who he said was petite. Chose petite option. Super petite, less than 5' tall, very thin, totally flat chested which I realize isn't for everyone, but I love it. Also youngish and easily the cutest of the three. Super friendly (oxymoron for anyone in the Japanese service industry?). Started with DFK, which is not the most desirable service in a place like this but it was 10am so I convinced myself I was her first customer. Positioned herself with her legs open so I could FIV while she worked on me and she almost snapped my finger off she was so tight. She was also going slow giving me a long lasting good time, but she had me so revved up I popped pretty quick. Maria #8. Highly recommend.

I know this is outside most people's area, however it is near Camp Zama so I suppose there could be some service personnel with knowledge about the area.

I was there at the weekend visiting the Bic Camera shop and noticed several obvious Fuuzoku businesses. There were two "relaxation massage" places on the street between the station and the big Isetan store, and an esute on the north side of the station.

I did not have the time to investigate further. As it is within easy strike range of my Japanese HQ I would be grateful for any info.

Does anyone know anything?

[QUOTE=Coolica;1111283]So I went to check out Honimaru today for the first time.[/QUOTE]Its Hinomaru (not Honimaru). Just to avoid the casual reader getting confused. Search for details further down this thread.

[QUOTE=X Tamron; 1111199]Anyone else tried the asobo app for the iphone?

If anyone needs more info, let me know.

You do need to be fluent in Japanese to use the system however.

Peace[/QUOTE]Good info, but is there an equivalent if you don't have an iphone?

Any links?

Cheers

[QUOTE=Kanda; 1110841]It had been a while for doing it up in Ueno so went with the intention of hitting the new 10K special at Ueno Body Clinic. Along the way, the normal touts though one guy who's shop was 4, 000 Yen for 30 min and showed me a pic of some nice girls on his phone. Anyway, went to check it out and found-out that it was Chip-In Pink Salon ([url]http://roguinn.fu8.jp/main.html[/url]) which I had been to years back and had a crappy experience. Guy says it's new management and tells me 4, 000 all-in (they advertise 6, 000 Yen). He also said I could change the girl once if I wasn't happy so thought I would give it a try.Anyway, brought to the back and a beastly older woman comes out in nurse's outfit. Ouch! Decided to shoo her away though not before she said that there were no changes. Wasn't expecting anything much better after that, though Makoto later came out and was quite cute in her mid-20s. Nice surprise. Before we started she showed me a list of options (5, 000 Yen-25, 000 Yen) which I said I didn't need. She then asked for a 5, 000 Yen tip in advance to do basically anything, ended up giving her 2, 000 Yen. She stood over my head and had me run a vibrator between her legs while she proceeded with a very nice BJ. Plenty of touching though she didn't actually completely disrobe at any time. Would go back and see what better tip might get me. [/QUOTE]Hi, I have similar experience about some Ueno pink salon. It was last time I will visit there. Prizes she wanted were ridiculous.Can you tell more about the Ueno Body clinic? That what kind of experiences do you have.Is it Gaijin friendly and what kind of services are avalaible. Massage? Do girls get naked.Thank's in advance.

[QUOTE=Big Popi;1111365]Hmmm. Asked for some advice about a week ago and no replies. This forum isn't as helpful as it used to be. Anyway, I found my answer elsewhere, and might as well make my contribution, although not as useful as it could be due to lack of names of 2 of the 3 girls I saw.[/quote]Thanks for the report.

The reason you got no reply was that people here expect you to read the forum first, Hinomaru has probably been mentioned two hundred times on this thread alone.

[QUOTE=Lion; 1111522]Good info, but is there an equivalent if you don't have an iphone?

Any links?

Cheers[/QUOTE]It's a website, so if you have a keitai, just use the mobile site. That said, as far as deai sites go, it's a waste of time, in my opinion.

Hi!I'm 24 year old Arab going to Tokyo in June.Is there any chance for me getting laid without paying? I prefer Japanese, but Chinese, Korean, Viet, Filipino are also valid options.

[QUOTE=Xslikx;1111690]It's a website, so if you have a keitai, just use the mobile site. That said, as far as deai sites go, it's a waste of time, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Actually, as far as guaranteed FS it's probably one of the best option out there, as long as you deal with the girls selling their services and don't get suckered in by all the fake adds.I was able to "introduce" my self using my ipod touch and a gmail account and could get 50 points on both sides so I guess I can arrange another 3-4 meetings before I run out of points.

[QUOTE=Norli;1112087]Is there any chance for me getting laid without paying?[/QUOTE]Yes. There is! But, only if you spend more time searching the forum than posting your single comment.

[QUOTE=Norli; 1112087]Hi!

I'm 24 year old Arab going to Tokyo in June.

Is there any chance for me getting laid without paying? I prefer Japanese, but Chinese, Korean, Viet, Filipino are also valid options. [/QUOTE]Read the section headed "Nampa"