Manila

I'd agree with everything you say Raz however it's still interesting that these LBFM hotties tend to dumb their gezzer hubbies as soon as they make it to the promised land, usually within hours of getting their green card. I would suggest they are great actresses.

The staff there also seems to know who butters their bread.

One guy kept badgering me about another drink, got pissed told him where he could go and started to walk out. The guy freaked on me and, before you know it, there are about four waiters coming up the steps after me. Luckily, my nephew, who is built like a brick wall from weight lifting was with me. It was like the two muskateers working their way up the steps.

In the end, I recognized it was totally my fault, just should have kept my mouth shut and left.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1204294]To Freebie fan,

I was at Thermae bar in Bangkok last month it is still full of Japanese monger no shortage and the freenlacer is asking for 1500-2000 bht for ST and up to 4000 for all nighter amost as high as the gogo at Nana, the Japanese is still spending like there are no tomorrow, so MBC and ESDA in manila is still a bargin compare to Bangkok and the BHT is strong.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]

As a general rule I agree, youth must be served. I will mention again that when I visited Cambodia there was a preferance for younger guys, no question.

However, in Thailand my age, many times, worked for me. Gals actually approached me because I was older. Their complaint about young guys was generally: too much wear / tear on their snapper, less generous, and less manerly.

In my experience, age is also somewhat of an advantage in the Philippines.

[QUOTE=Jbiz979;1204416]I think your perspective is ridiculous. Young guys are charmless with no game compared to a middle to senior aged men that have no idea about today's pop culture that these young women are fascinated about? And what kind of conversations are you having with these women? Are you discussing the financial crisis, world hunger? Please, they know that young men come to their country for the same reason that old men come there for. Now I don't pretend to know the mind of a prostitute but I wouldn't assume your charm is what is required to receive their services or attention. As far as std's are concerned, do a little research and you will learn that std's have been growing in the middle age population and from what I have seen on this forum many of you middle aged guys don't use condoms. As far as sex on cheap goes, yeah it's easy for a young guy to get sex on the cheap. It's called FREE SEX. Why? Because no matter the culture or language one thing is universally considered attractive and that is YOUTH. So get off this young men or career less, with no game or charm crap. Your going over sea's sir to have sex with attractive Young women and it may surprise that women find young men attractive as well. I have never used the services of a pro, now don't get me wrong I'm not against it, there is no moral conundrum for me about the practice but I'm able to get it for free like many gentleman here and I'm able to get young women in the States as well. So I respectfully disagree with you sir.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Henryv; 1204740]As a general rule I agree, youth must be served. I will mention again that when I visited Cambodia there was a preferance for younger guys, no question.

However, in Thailand my age, many times, worked for me. Gals actually approached me because I was older. Their complaint about young guys was generally: too much wear / tear on their snapper, less generous, and less manerly.

In my experience, age is also somewhat of an advantage in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]You make a valid and intelligent point Henry. Most would not argue that usually with age comes a level of maturity and I'm certainly not arguing that older men aren't successful in getting sex from young women, in many aspects their are obvious advantages, like more disposable income, appreciation and the belief or myth that older men are faithful and want to settle.

What did Henry Kissinger say about power?

[QUOTE=Slippery;1204757]What did Henry Kissinger say about power?[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac my friend.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1204610]Firstly I doubt you know much about OPM but if you do then sure you can converse with young Filipinas about their pop culture.

But in case you don't know (and I suspect this prompted the comment) there are armies or young careers less people hanging around most Asian cities. Therefor sure a whole lot in Bangkok and Taiwan doing the English teacher itinerant travel thing hoping to score some locals. There are always young lads who eager for adventure end up selling boiler room financial operations and frequently getting busted in HK and Manila. There are more young blokes doing some religious stuff (look Mum I'm a Muslim) in both KL and Jakarta. Other guys get the title " Financial analyst " and waste my time calling me about Forex offers, generally based in Singapore or HK or Shanghai or sometimes HCM. You seem them in all the pubs across Asia trying to make one beer last the night. Sad young and restless casting envious glances at those with game and maybe a few bucks too.

You may or not be as familiar with Asia as I am but the comment about young guys with no career is really quite spot on. Yes there are good young professionals clearly with steps on the career ladder too.[/QUOTE]I was speaking specificly about America or Western pop culture that has a heavy influence in the Philippines. The girls I met new usher, beyonce and lady gaga songs better than the average American and they are quite fond of singing there. Yes I have no idea what OPM is I'm assuming its an acronym for something? As far as a lot of young guys hanging around career less I can believe this, most Young guys are still in college at 18 and early 20's. And I'm not disagreeing that their are some guys that are exactly how you describe them but chimm31 made a broad assumption.

One of the senior members here (I think it was freebee fan but I don't remember anymore) on few ocations wrote few nice things about Alabang which prompted my curiocity. I wanted to explore last few times but never got around to it. Anyway I ended up doing it this time around although it was a half assed atempt double date with my wingman, however for what its worth here is the report.

We went to the Vivere Suites rooftop restourant with my date. The place is awesome for any romantics outthere this is a great restourant with views to southern manila and the lake. Place is fairly cheap but the will hit you with the 12% tax and 10% service fee crap on the end. Meals with few drinks for 4 people. Total damage around 3000peso. The hotel also has a spa and looks good.

After dinner we went for a stroll around the area up to the THe Believe Manila. 1 km down. Area is walkable and resembles Makati. Looking at people you can see that this is upscale area with more uperclass people walking around. We went to one of the malls (not ayala, the other) and we did get few looks but we were with girls so god only knows if those were curiosity looks or there was more to it.

Taxi up and down is around 500peso each way from Makati. Take the skyway its much quicker, tolls are 40 peso more expensive.

If anyone has any experiance in the area, knows pick up clubs / bars there please let me know. Also is there normal night life as it seems all the entertainment is centered around the bars in the shopping centres. I am here few more days so maybe I will do one more trip that way.

Can anyone recomend good resort / hotel on Laguna De Bay. I would like to take a day trip with a gf, I am getting sick of makati.

[QUOTE=Chimmy31;1204646]You've never seen a girl go the extra distance because you've hit it off with her? You've never met a hoe that seemed to have her mind else where while she laid their like a doll wishing you hurry up and finish asap? I guess you're the exception friend![/QUOTE]I have, but its been a while. I tell them up front what's expected. Girls who under-perform (starfish) get turned loose early, without pay, and don't get to repeat. I make no attempt to hit anything off. I'm a nice person around most everyone, maybe that is 'game' enough, but I make no attempt to make her feel good about me. She's going to get her ass stretched, swallow some jiz, get photographed sucking my the*ng, bring a friend along for same, and walk away happy down del Pilar with the 1000 in her hands 2 hours later. How do you know if she's really happy? She will stick around, ask to repeat, or offer her friends.

[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver;1204719]I'd agree with everything you say Raz however it's still interesting that these LBFM hotties tend to dumb their gezzer hubbies as soon as they make it to the promised land, usually within hours of getting their green card. I would suggest they are great actresses.[/QUOTE]SB, I would suggest that they are not necessarily acting when they give the older guy GFE. When you take her out of the Philippines and bring her to your country, she will perceive this as her grand entry into the promised land and it is inevitable that she will change in some way. The solution is simple. Don't bring her to your country. Enjoy your time with her while in the Phils. Enjoy the simple life with her within the confines of her own country.

Raz

[QUOTE=Jbiz979;1204777]I was speaking specificly about America or Western pop culture that has a heavy influence in the Philippines. The girls I met new usher, beyonce and lady gaga songs better than the average American and they are quite fond of singing there. Yes I have no idea what OPM is I'm assuming its an acronym for something? As far as a lot of young guys hanging around career less I can believe this, most Young guys are still in college at 18 and early 20's. And I'm not disagreeing that their are some guys that are exactly how you describe them but chimm31 made a broad assumption.[/QUOTE]OPM is Original Philippino Music. Music stores in Philippines have a whole section for this and many young ladies in Phils know the singers there, lke Nina, Ogie, etc much better than the Kanyes, BEPs. 50 cent etc.

I think some posters are seeing this whole "age of mongers" factor as too simplistic when discussing attractability to girls (apart from Razspewtin who understands the complexity).

We are not just talking about old mongers versus young mongers. We are talking about all the variables of age, appearance, cleanliness, personality, wealth, job, race and probably a few more).

You can do all the permutations and combinations so no need for me to spell out every one of them but I am sure that an older monger who looks clean, well-dressed, is polite and presents himself well will always do better than a brash, young, sloppy-dressed monger who is showy.

On the other hand, my understanding of evolution and genetics leads me to suspect that a young monger with looks, game, well-dressed, polite and having cash will usually (bu not always) be more attractive to a young woman than will an older monger with all the same attributes.

There are lots of variables at play here, including who speaks to her first.

It's all a game. Just make sure you know all the rules and strategies of the game so that you can maximize your chances of winning the "prize".

[QUOTE=RasSpewtin; 1204840]SB, I would suggest that they are not necessarily acting when they give the older guy GFE. When you take her out of the Philippines and bring her to your country, she will perceive this as her grand entry into the promised land and it is inevitable that she will change in some way. The solution is simple. Don't bring her to your country. Enjoy your time with her while in the Phils. Enjoy the simple life with her within the confines of her own country.

Raz[/QUOTE]Yep, agree 100%. A couple of my mates got burn't taking them back home, they only won't to go OS, thus will sweeten you up big time and spit you out when the time arises.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1204803]I have, but its been a while. I tell them up front what's expected. Girls who under-perform (starfish) get turned loose early, without pay, and don't get to repeat. I make no attempt to hit anything off. I'm a nice person around most everyone, maybe that is 'game' enough, but I make no attempt to make her feel good about me. She's going to get her ass stretched, swallow some jiz, get photographed sucking my the*ng, bring a friend along for same, and walk away happy down del Pilar with the 1000 in her hands 2 hours later. How do you know if she's really happy? She will stick around, ask to repeat, or offer her friends.[/QUOTE]You can just tell when she's feeling you, no? By you being nice, that's part of your game. That'll make her feel comfortable, open up, etc. I'm sure you ask a few questions to get to know her, eh? I'm sure you're doing fine since you've been in the game for awhile. Well, if you truly don't think you have any game and you can't build some chemistry with these girls, than that's on you. I'm sure you do though, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.