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[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1126139]I concur Sir. I was there last month (report in Gogo forum). The scene is set up for the sportsman. Golfers, boaters, affluent suburbian gringos. Mostly married older gentleman who don't try to learn spanish and don't mind paying 100usd and up an hour. The chicas seem to be Unionized, and hold close to THEIR pricing structure. By my second day there chics avoided me like the plague. I became known as the 100 tln guy. I was the Union buster but failed miserably. No one wanted to spend the night unless I was paying more than 150usd, It was as if they had a curfew. Even in Del rey at 3am chicas were still asking 80usd for an hour. And I had been watching these same chics circle the bar for 3 hours.

I talked to one gentleman who was 65 yo. He had hypertension, diabetes, and the viagra only worked sometimes. He took two fine ass girls to his room. When he came back and sat down an hour later I questioned him. He paid 200usd PLUS propina to eat pussy and watch them eat each others pussy.

If you like clock waters that are all buisness, but look good. Average food, laid back Latin culture, and safe places, then go to CR. But for me it was the trip from hell. [/QUOTE]I used to fly to CR all the time, use it as a layover on my way to South America, which I went to at least once a month. Mostly it is a great place to socialize with GUYS, smoke cigars and drink scotch, talk about the stock market, troll the bar and play eyes games with the girls, get drunk and sloth you way up to a mediocre room with a hot looking girl who will be jonesing to go get her next cien bill the whole time. Once in a while, you will find a gem, a girl who hasn't learned the hardcore game or gotten in the union yet (LOL Gogo). I once got an 18 year old girl, a tica, who came into the bar for the first time not knowing anything and this was memoriable. Another time I got a girl from Nicaraqua who was new and just awesome, but these are now the exceptions. CR is also good for fishing, for river rafting, for treking around volcanoes and waterfalls. But as a monger destination it used to be number 1 25 years ago, now it is dead last in my mind. I will still probably end up there again sometime in my near future, but it will be a layover or a fishing trip.

Sosua was at one time magical, totally different than it is now. As more and more guys came, mostly due to us guys who wouldn't shut up about it on the internet and then tragically the cheap flights from NYC, it got to be more and more like CR. I am heading to the north coast soon, but will be staying in PP, and visiting Sosua maybe one day, hoping to look up a few old friends who may still be hanging around. ANyone seen Mr. NYC, Jazz, Fantasy, or any of the old gang down there lately?

After I posted that, I thought about an old post I had made three years ago. I just dug it up and here it is for you. Notice the similarities.

04-16-08 10:18 #2197 WestFLA

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There are no right or wrong answers in mongering. It took me a long while to come to that conclusion, but the main difference between mongers is the experience they seek. That point was really driven home to me last year in Peru when I saw a bunch of guys hanging with 40 year old working girls that frankly disqusted me, but nevertheless they were happy. When I would show up with a 19 or 20 year old spinner they would freak out and say they had 'daughters older then that'. My response was 'so what' but I finally understood that we all seek out what makes us happy. That is also why I have criticised somewhat the changes that have occured in Sosua but also said some guys may be happier now.

For me, San Jose is dead because 1) I don't like massage parlor action (exception Relax & vida in Peru) 2) The Smell Rey is no different than the escort action in the US as you are on the clock, the girls are hot and they basically hate you 3) The level of monger is mostly guys that are clueless about latin culture. 4) While certainly there are hot girls running around the del rey from all over the carribean and south america, they are hard core hookers. I don't like hard core hookers. Never have and never will. Give me a part timer, a college girl looking for some jack, a girl who is trying to get you to falling love, whatever. This is the type that gives me the experience I like. I will do the hooker action as a fill in, but my target market is spending romantic time with hot latinas. Finding that in San Jose, while not impossible is nevertheless like finding the proverbial needle in a haystack.

The reason the DR is much better IMO is that even with all the changes over the last several years, you can seek out extremely hot girls that really want to spend time with you and give you the romance sex, not the bump and run. Even the girls from the houses in Santiago and Puerto Plata will give you an all night experience that puts anything you can normally get in SJO to bitter shame.

Now, for the guys that like anonymous sex and visuals clues are all that is important, like their food expensive, like drivers, doormen, on site casinos, and chatting up businessmen, cigars, and watching football in the bar. Go to the Del Rey. This is where you need to be.

Again no right or wrong. But you will find me horseback riding on a beach with my three day girl, or hanging in a disco with my 2 night girl, or out to dinner with a clerk from a store or a waitress. And generally doing things that make my trip special to me.

Hanging around talking about the stock market, politics with old fat businessmen in a casino lobby full of hard core hookers? Sure. If I am passing thru to go fishing or heading somewhere else in South or central america I may make a stop there. But for WF, never a destination will San Jose be.

I will be in Sosua next Thursday, for the first time. The map comes in handy. Thanks again all.

I am taking USD with me to pay for my expenses. Can I pay for beer at the bars and the chicas USD or should I change my money to DOP. I am going to pay $50 for ST and $100 for TLN. Are these the going rates?

[QUOTE=Ted Awards;1126879]I am taking USD with me to pay for my expenses. Can I pay for beer at the bars and the chicas USD or should I change my money to DOP. I am going to pay $50 for ST and $100 for TLN. Are these the going rates?[/QUOTE]NO! Change your money, you are going to spend more, There are a few ways to change your money. They are the guys on the street, and there is a Western Union across from the big supermarket in sosua off the main road. The other guys on the board will post some other spots to change after my post.

[QUOTE=Ted Awards;1126879]I am taking USD with me to pay for my expenses. Can I pay for beer at the bars and the chicas USD or should I change my money to DOP. I am going to pay $50 for ST and $100 for TLN. Are these the going rates?[/QUOTE]I was there last week on my 4th trip in 2 years. Best to exchange into pesos. The people there are rather innumerate and you would need to walk around with a pocket calculator to figure out if you're overpaying or not. Yes, you can spend USD however. The rate for me went up from 37. 25 to 37. 6 during my stay. I suggest the small "Cambios" near the center, just walk around the block and you'll find them. I counted at least 3 of them and exchanged at 2 with no problems. These cambios are very small stores with nothing more than a guy inside exchanging money. Very professional and honest. Money is counted out several times in front of you and they don't object if you count it again yourself. The street guys are OK when the cambios are closed but you need to be more careful counting with them. They are fine for exchanging $100 bucks at a time just to get you through the night but use common sense and hang with a buddy when you go to them. They are found standing at any busy street corner in town and operate openly in plain view of the passing public day and night.

[QUOTE=Ted Awards;1126879]I am taking USD with me to pay for my expenses. Can I pay for beer at the bars and the chicas USD or should I change my money to DOP. I am going to pay $50 for ST and $100 for TLN. Are these the going rates?[/QUOTE]You can pay for some small items with dollar bills, like motoconchos, or larger items like your hotel room, but in general you need pesos for bars and restaurants, because they won't be able to make the correct change if you tender in dollars. In fact they won't be able to calculate it.

You can change your dollars in the street at the corner outside PJ's restaurant. Several gentlemen will call out "chench, chench" every time you pass by. They are offering to change your money. As a sideline some of them also sell generic Viagra for $500 pesos for 4 tabs of 100mgs, but you can bargain them down to $300 pesos if you want some of the blue stuff.

They are pretty reliable and won't rob you.

For chicas about $2000 (dos mil) pesos seems to be the going rate for short time these days. You may find that you can bargain for less, but the danger is that the chica will then be resentful and go about her duties in a minimalist fashion. What I find to be more effective is that I tell her I will pay $1500 (mil quiniento) pesos, but that if it is exceptionally good, I will give her a bonus of an additional $500 (quiniento) pesos. Of course I intend to pay her the full price unless she really shows her ass performance wise. This seems to work.

I would not advise TLN unless you have been with the girl short term and really want to spend more time with her. And I still wouldn't give her more than $2000 pesos, because I would want a discount for repeat business.

[QUOTE=Ted Awards;1126879]I am taking USD with me to pay for my expenses. Can I pay for beer at the bars and the chicas USD or should I change my money to DOP. I am going to pay $50 for ST and $100 for TLN. Are these the going rates?[/QUOTE]Oops, I forgot to add. The going rate is 1500 ($40. 00 USD) for ST and 3000 for LT. Most will ask for 2000 pesos. There were fewer chicas around and the M / F ratio a bit less favorable and it appears the hotter ones are getting the 2000. You can get the skanks for less but you know how that is. Not my cup of tea. Feel free to ask any more questions, I'll get back to you.

Thank you all for helpful info. Geolopes, since you were there last week, can you tell me where to start my hunt for hot chicas? La Passion? How was the quality of the girls in general?

[QUOTE=Ted Awards;1127218]Thank you all for helpful info. Geolopes, since you were there last week, can you tell me where to start my hunt for hot chicas? La Passion? How was the quality of the girls in general?[/QUOTE]I still have an open mind regarding Passions despite my bad experience. It wasn't my intent to bang any of their chicas on this trip, I was on a recon. For some strange reason we never made it there on our previous 3 trips. My friends are extreme mongers. 5 trips together to Bangkok, they go every year for 3 weeks at a time, and they love that sort of thing. Passions has on-site rooms. My feeling is it would be better to go there during the days before the night mongers crowd the place. When we were there at 3:30 PM we practically owned it. The girls were OK but nothing great. You can certainly pull better at Club 59 for 1500-2000 pesos.

At night, better to go early to Club 59, like no later than 10PM and watch the scene and make your pick. Good mix of hardened pros and semi-pros looking for a buck. Couple of other bars on the strip might reveal a diamond in the rough though. Its a small place really. Walk around during the day for a recon. Check out the "New Garden" Hotel. It was totally dead on this trip and everytime we walked by there was nada inside. You can walk right in, no need to be a guest. However, it is well known that chicas hang and bang there and you can take them out, no bar fine. Passions has a heavy bar fine, not worth it IMHO.

CMP is a short walk down the street from Passions, going towards the town center. They want 2, 500 pesos too, a notch down from Passions chicas. Most of the so-called massage pallors offer BJ on site if you're into that. 500 pesos covers it. Street skanks can be had for less but not recommended.

You might want to consider dividing your time between Sosua and BlackBeards like we always do. Hey, why not?

[QUOTE=Geolopes; 1127378]I still have an open mind regarding Passions despite my bad experience. It wasn't my intent to bang any of their chicas on this trip, I was on a recon. For some strange reason we never made it there on our previous 3 trips. My friends are extreme mongers. 5 trips together to Bangkok, they go every year for 3 weeks at a time, and they love that sort of thing. Passions has on-site rooms. My feeling is it would be better to go there during the days before the night mongers crowd the place. When we were there at 3:30 PM we practically owned it. The girls were OK but nothing great. You can certainly pull better at Club 59 for 1500-2000 pesos.

At night, better to go early to Club 59, like no later than 10PM and watch the scene and make your pick. Good mix of hardened pros and semi-pros looking for a buck. Couple of other bars on the strip might reveal a diamond in the rough though. Its a small place really. Walk around during the day for a recon. Check out the "New Garden" Hotel. It was totally dead on this trip and everytime we walked by there was nada inside. You can walk right in, no need to be a guest. However, it is well known that chicas hang and bang there and you can take them out, no bar fine. Passions has a heavy bar fine, not worth it IMHO.

CMP is a short walk down the street from Passions, going towards the town center. They want 2, 500 pesos too, a notch down from Passions chicas. Most of the so-called massage pallors offer BJ on site if you're into that. 500 pesos covers it. Street skanks can be had for less but not recommended.

You might want to consider dividing your time between Sosua and BlackBeards like we always do. Hey, why not?[/QUOTE]Geo,

Your recommendation to go to Club 59 early to scoop up chicas before they get taken is a two edged sword in my opinion, though what you say is true there will be much less selection at that time, MUCH LESS. At 10 pm there might be 20 girls there or less, two hours later upstairs in Classicos there will be 100-150 girls Thursday. Sunday. My recommendation would be to go at 10 pm but take your time to pull the trigger, if you see exactly what you want and after talking to the girl she is still what you want go for it, if not just wait because the parade hasn't really started yet. If you sit in Merengue bar within sight of the stairs leading to Classicos and wait for them to open you will see within one hour every size, shape and color the DR has to offer, guaranteed.

[QUOTE=Ted Awards;1127218]Thank you all for helpful info. Geolopes, since you were there last week, can you tell me where to start my hunt for hot chicas? La Passion? How was the quality of the girls in general?[/QUOTE]I was in La Passion on three nights last week. The best selection is just after 6 pm according to the owner Peter. This is because all the chicas have to be out on the floor by then and very few have been taken out due to the higher price to take them out early.

The selection I saw on the nights I went was fantastic but I went early and I am not an on sight player and as I mentioned the cost of taking a girl out of there early in the evening is too high for me, I like to wait until the price is down to 2500, sometimes if I see a real stunner that I want and she is still there at the 3500 price timeframe I will grab her but this hasn't happened often.

I have had very good performance out of the girls out of La Passion with only two exceptions, one girl was a very young girl that had just started and I honestly think she was very nervous and just didn't know what she was doing so I give that one a pass, she was drop dead gorgeous though and I still enjoyed looking at her beautiful face as I railed her, sorry but I have to be honest, haha.

I have been told that if you take a girl out of there and she refuses to give BBBJ or any other reasonable request and you complain to management they will refund part of your money back and fire the girl. I can not verify this as I would NEVER do this to a girl just to save myself 50 bucks, I don't need the money that bad and I could be ruining someone's livelihood over chump change plus now I would be a marked man in the establishment and I certainly don't want that, I like going to the place way too much, there really are some sweet girls working in there.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1127634]Geo,

Your recommendation to go to Club 59 early to scoop up chicas before they get taken is a two edged sword in my opinion, though what you say is true there will be much less selection at that time, MUCH LESS. At 10 pm there might be 20 girls there or less, two hours later upstairs in Classicos there will be 100-150 girls Thursday. Sunday. My recommendation would be to go at 10 pm but take your time to pull the trigger, if you see exactly what you want and after talking to the girl she is still what you want go for it, if not just wait because the parade hasn't really started yet. If you sit in Merengue bar within sight of the stairs leading to Classicos and wait for them to open you will see within one hour every size, shape and color the DR has to offer, guaranteed. [/QUOTE]Agreed, that has been my past experience there too. We were there on a wed / thurs night and that might have been the reason for the sausage fest. On our 2nd night we walked back over at 0130 in a downpour (loved it) after banging our chicas just to see if there was improvement. There wasn't but since we weren't ready to sleep we just smoked some stogies and had more beers and took in the scene. The chica I just banged was back to work. LOL and she saw me lurking around. I gave her a subtle wave and went next door to that dump / disco and fought off the fuglies. I'm not a fan of going to the upstairs disco owing to the noise level but that's just me. Let me see if I can drop in this photo of the chica I slammed. She was pretty good, no real complaints.

I also agree that its not worth complaining in Passions about a chicas poor service. I'm not interested in getting her fired but I can't say how much longer she's going to last there. Some other guy might not be so charitable. Hey, she and her kid got to eat. I would have been better off to just give her the 2500 pesos. LOL.

Dude! You fucked Skinny! From the Skinny and Chunky team. Love that girl.

[QUOTE=Geolopes; 1127783]Agreed, that has been my past experience there too. We were there on a wed / thurs night and that might have been the reason for the sausage fest. On our 2nd night we walked back over at 0130 in a downpour (loved it) after banging our chicas just to see if there was improvement. There wasn't but since we weren't ready to sleep we just smoked some stogies and had more beers and took in the scene. The chica I just banged was back to work. LOL and she saw me lurking around. I gave her a subtle wave and went next door to that dump / disco and fought off the fuglies. I'm not a fan of going to the upstairs disco owing to the noise level but that's just me. Let me see if I can drop in this photo of the chica I slammed. She was pretty good, no real complaints.

I also agree that its not worth complaining in Passions about a chicas poor service. I'm not interested in getting her fired but I can't say how much longer she's going to last there. Some other guy might not be so charitable. Hey, she and her kid got to eat. I would have been better off to just give her the 2500 pesos. LOL. [/QUOTE]

I did not get any spot on results from a search so let's see if anybody here can add any information.

I am ready for my 6th trip and this time my big mouth has won over one of my homie mongering buddies. He is not as lazy as I and wants to get out and do things away from the mongering scene. Therefore I am on the hook to put together some kind of activity planning.

He likes cigars, fishing, and would not mind a rum-factory tour I know that. The golf scene is easy; I need no help with that.

He mentioned getting on a boat with 3 or 4 different sets of clothes and take multiple pictures with the different clothes so his wife does not catch onto other possible types of activities. I know there are fish trips out of Puerto Plata and the Sosua dive shop can arrange those but is that the best way to do it?

I have also found a Dominican Cigar tour over the web except it looks a little too extravagant for us. We don't want to do a 5 day itinerary, one at a finca, one at a rollers shop, the next day at finca #2, then break for PP fishing, playing golf the days after. Does anybody know of more simpler types of tours that might be arranged? Meeting at the Marriott to take part in this does makes me think there are more economical ways to go about it.

The same goes for any kind of rum factory tour? I'm burned out on the web wild goose searching.

I know Black Beards has a laminated list of excursions and arranges all kinds of stuff except I am not there to see it. I don't know about most but I don't like feeling like cattle where 10 guys get in a dune buggy and drive through mud, single file, over a fixed track everybody else goes over.

Please throw out what you know to get me started on more focused searching on these things.

Thanks!