Santo Domingo

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1314767].Still haven't figured out the Santiago chicas though. My profile says that I am looking for SD chicas, but they still send me messages. Most of them are very sexy, but they are just too damn far away, LOL.[/QUOTE]It does not matter if you meet the chicas on badoo. Com, tagged. Com or facebook. Com. The girls that are interested in you will travel to you. I have discovered that you can ask the ones that chat you up to take the bus to SD, and they will. I had a great girl from Santiago and currently have one from San Pedro de Marcoris. They were both fine to take the bus, spend a night with me and go home (a little richer for their efforts, of course).

You see, these women are often unemployed or seriously underemployed. They do not see the two-three hour bus trip as difficult in the context of netting 5000 pesos for a day and a half of loving. I, on the other hand, think that 2 hours for a GFE fuck is a waste of my time, since I can probably do as well in SD. Yet, I always hate to let a girl who seems like she might be great in the sack go, just because she would cost me an extra $14 USA (the cost of a trip from STI to SDQ).

Moral of the story: if you find an internet girl who looks great, but she lives a few hours away from wherever you are, offer to cover her bus ticket. There is not much to lose, and a lot to be gained.

[QUOTE=Forest; 1315129]It does not matter if you meet the chicas on badoo. Com, tagged. Com or facebook. Com. The girls that are interested in you will travel to you. I have discovered that you can ask the ones that chat you up to take the bus to SD, and they will. I had a great girl from Santiago and currently have one from San Pedro de Marcoris. They were both fine to take the bus, spend a night with me and go home (a little richer for their efforts, of course).

You see, these women are often unemployed or seriously underemployed. They do not see the two-three hour bus trip as difficult in the context of netting 5000 pesos for a day and a half of loving. I, on the other hand, think that 2 hours for a GFE fuck is a waste of my time, since I can probably do as well in SD. Yet, I always hate to let a girl who seems like she might be great in the sack go, just because she would cost me an extra $14 USA (the cost of a trip from STI to SDQ).

Moral of the story: if you find an internet girl who looks great, but she lives a few hours away from wherever you are, offer to cover her bus ticket. There is not much to lose, and a lot to be gained.[/QUOTE]And if said lady had a good job would you still give her 5000 pesos (bka more than a month's wage) plus $14 to visit you? I don't know why guys continue to insist on turning regular girls into high-priced hookers.

I agree with Mr Enternational. If she doesn't ask for money I never give the girl money. Heck sometimes she asks and I still don't. What if this girl really likes you and wants that dream ticket to the US, you just turned her into a working girl when she might not have been that way. I don't think you can get a true GFE if you are paying for it direct obviously you always pay for it in some way.

[QUOTE=Forest; 1315129]It does not matter if you meet the chicas on badoo. Com, tagged. Com or facebook. Com. The girls that are interested in you will travel to you. I have discovered that you can ask the ones that chat you up to take the bus to SD, and they will. I had a great girl from Santiago and currently have one from San Pedro de Marcoris. They were both fine to take the bus, spend a night with me and go home (a little richer for their efforts, of course).

You see, these women are often unemployed or seriously underemployed. They do not see the two-three hour bus trip as difficult in the context of netting 5000 pesos for a day and a half of loving. I, on the other hand, think that 2 hours for a GFE fuck is a waste of my time, since I can probably do as well in SD. Yet, I always hate to let a girl who seems like she might be great in the sack go, just because she would cost me an extra $14 USA (the cost of a trip from STI to SDQ).

Moral of the story: if you find an internet girl who looks great, but she lives a few hours away from wherever you are, offer to cover her bus ticket. There is not much to lose, and a lot to be gained.[/QUOTE]Good post.

[QUOTE=Madisonguy;1315289]I agree with Mr Enternational. If she doesn't ask for money I never give the girl money. Heck sometimes she asks and I still don't. What if this girl really likes you and wants that dream ticket to the US, you just turned her into a working girl when she might not have been that way. I don't think you can get a true GFE if you are paying for it direct obviously you always pay for it in some way.[/QUOTE]I just have a heart I am not a sucker, but I agree what was said before. The girls there do not have the same opportunities as it is a male dominated society. Take for example baseball in the the Dominican Republic you see baseball fields all around the Dominican Republic and you see how seriously they take training young men to become baseball players who are mostly poor young men. You have no programs to help young women who are poor to become professionals. If you come from money and your a women you go to college, but if your a poor young girl you stay home or take a dead end job and they have a baby with a man. The Dominican Republic is not the United States where if you work hard you can become anything.

I guess what I am saying is I am not going to be cheap a few dollars to help a girl maybe buy a new outfit does not make her a ****. I was poor once so I am sensitive to everyone needs help sometimes. Personally. I am attracted to those girls there who do not have a lot of money, but are good honest decent girls. So, I am never going to be hard and not help these girls. My novia comes from no money, but I helped her and now she is doing well. By the way, when I walk into pure, stay at the hotel marina mongers all want to talk to her because she is a bad girl, but she is not going for it because she is no ****. Again, everyone has to decide for themselves how to treat a girl you meet there, but I always try to do the right thing. I think I did well in life because I never forgot where I came from and always had compassion for those less fortunate than me. Just my two cents.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1315248]And if said lady had a good job would you still give her 5000 pesos (bka more than a month's wage) plus $14 to visit you? I don't know why guys continue to insist on turning regular girls into high-priced hookers.[/QUOTE]Yet again you completely fail to understand why these Dominican women are willing to meet with foreigners and have sex with them. It is not because you are so good-looking, charming, witty, cultured, delightful company, etc. But because they are looking for opportunities for economic and social advancement and usually for money to help support their children and families. If you really want to offer them a long term relationship, travel to the US, etc. In lieu of cash for sex, that is fair enough, but by the very fact that you are posting on this board, it is not likely that is the case.

It is a mistake to think that they are like college students in the US, just looking for a good night out and a few drinks for the fun of it.

5000 pesos might be more than a month's wages for many Dominicans, but I can easily spend 4000 pesos (US$100) on a week's groceries for three people at the supermarket without buying any luxury items, so it is not really that much.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1315248]And if said lady had a good job would you still give her 5000 pesos (bka more than a month's wage) plus $14 to visit you? I don't know why guys continue to insist on turning regular girls into high-priced hookers.[/QUOTE]I'll bet you, that he never had to choke, strangle or put his hands around the neck of any of the women he paid 5k pesos ($128US).

Seems to me, maybe some guys prefer quantity over quality and might prefer 3-4 low quality, hardened pros, than being with one fine, low mileage, non-hardened woman. I would prefer to save my money and be with a few high quality, non-hardened women, than spend thousands of dollars in total, to be with a different low quality, high mileage, hardened pro every night.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1315378]Yet again you completely fail to understand why these Dominican women are willing to meet with foreigners and have sex with them. It is not because you are so good-looking, charming, witty, cultured, delightful company, etc. But because they are looking for opportunities for economic and social advancement and usually for money to help support their children and families. If you really want to offer them a long term relationship, travel to the US, etc. In lieu of cash for sex, that is fair enough, but by the very fact that you are posting on this board, it is not likely that is the case.

It is a mistake to think that they are like college students in the US, just looking for a good night out and a few drinks for the fun of it.

5000 pesos might be more than a month's wages for many Dominicans, but I can easily spend 4000 pesos (US$100) on a week's groceries for three people at the supermarket without buying any luxury items, so it is not really that much.[/QUOTE]I disagree you have to think really low of yourself to believe this. Plus you don't know what's possible maybe you fall for a girl you didn't expect to. I've been with girls in the US where we can't stand each other and it becomes an unspoken hook up for good sex. Buying dinner, shopping, normal stuff like that is ok but just giving a girl money is pointless unless you don't think you are fun to be around then I suppose. I've had 2 girls now, one rip up money the other threw it at me. These were working girls, not girls I met off the internet. If a girl really falls for you she will not accept the money, and you will insult her offering it. If they ask for it, then I guess it doesn't matter. Haven't met a girl off the internet that has asked for money though.

[QUOTE=Madisonguy;1315388]I disagree you have to think really low of yourself to believe this. Plus you don't know what's possible maybe you fall for a girl you didn't expect to. I've been with girls in the US where we can't stand each other and it becomes an unspoken hook up for good sex. Buying dinner, shopping, normal stuff like that is ok but just giving a girl money is pointless unless you don't think you are fun to be around then I suppose.[/QUOTE]Well, yeah, if the girl is financially independent and has her own job or other source of income, but in most cases in the DR that is not so. Obviously if she is your dentist in the DR, or something like that, then it is an entirely different ball game and normal rules of dating may apply.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1315399]Well, yeah, if the girl is financially independent and has her own job or other source of income, but in most cases in the DR that is not so. Obviously if she is your dentist in the DR, or something like that, then it is an entirely different ball game and normal rules of dating may apply.[/QUOTE]So if I date someone in the US who doesn't have a job and we have sex I should pay her? I don't pay girls to go out and have a good time with me, never will. They should be paying me. It's like they're playing the lottery, there's always a chance they win.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1315378]Yet again you completely fail to understand why these Dominican women are willing to meet with foreigners and have sex with them. It is not because you are so good-looking, charming, witty, cultured, delightful company, etc. But because they are looking for opportunities for economic and social advancement and usually for money to help support their children and families. If you really want to offer them a long term relationship, travel to the US, etc. In lieu of cash for sex, that is fair enough, but by the very fact that you are posting on this board, it is not likely that is the case.

It is a mistake to think that they are like college students in the US, just looking for a good night out and a few drinks for the fun of it.

5000 pesos might be more than a month's wages for many Dominicans, but I can easily spend 4000 pesos (US$100) on a week's groceries for three people at the supermarket without buying any luxury items, so it is not really that much.[/QUOTE]Completely agree 100% with this posts. If women are not tripping over themselves to sleep with you in the US, then there is no point in deluding one's self that you've all of a sudden become some sexy stud overnight once you travel overseas (assuming this applies to all of us, else why spend gobs of money on airfare and hotel making multiple trips overseas every year if pussy is literally being thrown at you back in your home country?).

They are sleeping with you for the prospect of earning some money. No sense in pretending not to know the deal when after you fuck her she holds her hand out expecting pesos in return. No sense in fooling yourself by saying "you want money? But I thought you slept with me because you REALLY like me?"

LOL!

[QUOTE=Madisonguy;1315408]So if I date someone in the US who doesn't have a job and we have sex I should pay her? I don't pay girls to go out and have a good time with me, never will. They should be paying me. It's like they're playing the lottery, there's always a chance they win.[/QUOTE]She might have food stamps or unemployment, or support from working parents, or something. Anyway, the culture is different in the US-just believe me. When men come from overseas and have casual sex with young Dominican women, there is an expectation that they will pay something, even if it is disguised as a donation for their child, or something like that, if you feel embarrassed about offering payment for sex.

And if you really want a relationship with her, and don't want to sully the romance by appearing to pay for sex, then rest assured that it will probably cost you much more money in the long run.

Things will always be that way for you guys then. I know guys like me who have girlfriends for months to years. If you pay her she's only going to be there until someone else comes along that treats her like a human. Now I'm not saying some don't want it, but the ones that do will ask. And I do agree if you can't get girls in the US then the difference of going to a 3rd world country may no be enough. I guess if you make 500k a year here it would be similar to a normal guy going to DR, that's about what they think we make in a year. I've pulled a girl out of a strip club the last 4 times I went, now part of that plays into the what one girl wants others do so it makes it easy for me now, but still I would never be like here I met you at a strip club and we had sex have some money. You have to do what makes you happy in the end, I just know I've had enough bad experiences trying to pay girls I negotiated a price with that I certainly won't try to pay a girl who didn't ever say she wants to have sex for money.

[QUOTE=Madisonguy;1315448]Things will always be that way for you guys then. I know guys like me who have girlfriends for months to years. If you pay her she's only going to be there until someone else comes along that treats her like a human. Now I'm not saying some don't want it, but the ones that do will ask. And I do agree if you can't get girls in the US then the difference of going to a 3rd world country may no be enough. I guess if you make 500k a year here it would be similar to a normal guy going to DR, that's about what they think we make in a year. I've pulled a girl out of a strip club the last 4 times I went, now part of that plays into the what one girl wants others do so it makes it easy for me now, but still I would never be like here I met you at a strip club and we had sex have some money. You have to do what makes you happy in the end, I just know I've had enough bad experiences trying to pay girls I negotiated a price with that I certainly won't try to pay a girl who didn't ever say she wants to have sex for money.[/QUOTE]You make a couple of different points here. If you pull a girl out of a strip club then you are dealing with a pro. When you say that if you meet a regular girl and you pay her then you made her a pro that is not true. You say that if you do that then the next person who does not pay her then she will leave you to be with them because they did not treat them like a pro. Not true. They will leave you first because someone might give them money because they took the time to learn about her situation and gave her some money to help her. Again, we are not talking about a lot of money here. Frannie mentioned a $100.00 dollars of food at the supermarket. That can be a big help to her and her family. A good girl is not going to demand money from you. As Frannie says she expects you to understand her situation. She will never come at you like a pro and demand money, but she expects that you will help her. That does not make her a pro because she expects help from you. Again, you have to understand the culture and really get to know the girl. Helping a girl does not make her a ****.

[QUOTE=Revere;1315454]You make a couple of different points here. If you pull a girl out of a strip club then you are dealing with a pro. When you say that if you meet a regular girl and you pay her her then you made her a pro that is not true. You say that if you do that then the next person who does not pay her then she will leave you to be with them because they did not treat them like a pro. Not true. They will leave you first because someone might give them money because they took the time to learn about her situation and gave her some money to help her. A good girl is not going to demand money from you. As Frannie says she expects you to understand her situation. She will never come at you like a pro and demand money, but she expects that you will help her. That does not make her a pro because she expects help from you. Again, you have to understand the culture and really get to know the girl. Helping a girl does not make her a ****.[/QUOTE]Sorry I meant strip clubs in the US, definitely not working girls. If you really think a girl will leave someone she has feelings for to get treated like a working girl then I don't know exactly how I could fix that. You think very low of women is all I can think. I don't know girls that think the way you are saying. Basically what you're saying is you want to be there welfare system in exchange for sex? If I were poor and some decent looking rich chick wanted to take me out to nice places, go to the nail salon, maybe get some clothes or shoes, hopefully buy me a gun or something cool I would be totally on board. If she gave me money I would definitely except but I would know she thinks of me as a working girl and eventually when someone real came along I would change. Maybe you're different, you might prefer to be a working girl forever. If someone was paying your sister or daughter money after they had sex you would think that was ok? It doesn't matter how broke or not they are, well maybe that's the problem. I don't believe in socialism, so our differences in working girl mongering probably are more politically based. I think take from the rich give to the poor mentality is just dumb. And that is your only valid point, if you believe in that. I've never paid a girl that didn't ask, and didn't pay one once that did. And the one that did was waiting in my hotel lobby with a big red rose to go shopping the next day. SHE WAS NOT SAD! Maybe your experiences would be better if you treated them how you would want instead of worrying about their problems. Although I actually would like to be paid for sex, and a few times have ha ha. I'm not trying to change your mind or say what you're doing is wrong. I just disagree with it and enough of it can change the way it works in it's entirety. Back in the day lots of these places were different where girls would enjoy going out with rich gringos, but enough rich gringos give money away and then they start to think hey why not make a job out of it. Maybe next time try to buy her a nice dress or something instead of the money exchange.