FKK Palace - Frankfurt

I'll be visiting Frankfurt the first week of June (see the main Frankfurt forum for my trip plans) , and will definitely be spending time at the Palace. I just have a couple questions and comments.

[b]Coming and Going[/b]

Am I right in assuming that after paying the entrance fee once, I can come and go from the Palace at my leisure, or will I need to repay to return the same day? In other words, does the entrance fee cover multiple comings and goings in a single day? I'm guessing they give you some sort of token to show at the desk indicating you've already paid. I was planning on coming to the Palace first thing in the morning (on a Saturday) , check the club out and get a session or two, then leave and return later that night.

[b]Sharks[/b]

So I've done a good bit of reading, and you guys have done an excellent job expressing what a newbie (such as myself) may expect to find. One thing that has me puzzled is the fear of sharks. As I understand it, nothing is committed between a monger and a girl until you step into the room. Also, as has been said so many times before hand, making it clear what is expected for what fee is the key. Example: [i]"Look, I expect GFE, dfk, BBBJ, and mpos for 50 euro in a half hour session that actually lasts for 30 minutes. Is that agreeable to you, Ms. Thunder Tits?"[/i] If her answer is "no", then my answer is "no". So as long as a monger expresses exactly what he wants before going into a room, he's not going to get sharked unless the girl flat out lies what she's willing to do and for how much. Also, I get that keeping track of the time is also key lest time creeps up on you. I guess I don't see how this is any different from resisting high pressure girls at strip clubs. This is the closest comparison I can think of, at least for my American bretheren out there. Now, perhaps my ignorance is showing here (I will be a newbie to Europe afterall) , and I cannot imagine the draw of that many beautiful women walking around offering dick sucking vs. The typical cows you get in American strip clubs offering a $40 lap dance. I guess it just seems to me that if you know how to resist strippers (which I'm quite good at) , the same tactics will keep you perfectly safe at the Palace. If I'm missing something here, please let me know guys.

Thanks again for all the great information, and I look forward to meeting some of you while I'm at the Palace, and look forward to reporting my adventures!

[QUOTE=Mister Dante; 1422914]I'll be visiting Frankfurt the first week of June (see the main Frankfurt forum for my trip plans) , and will definitely be spending time at the Palace. I just have a couple questions and comments.

[b]Sharks[/b]

So I've done a good bit of reading, and you guys have done an excellent job expressing what a newbie (such as myself) may expect to find. One thing that has me puzzled is the fear of sharks. As I understand it, nothing is committed between a monger and a girl until you step into the room. Also, as has been said so many times before hand, making it clear what is expected for what fee is the key. Example: [i]"Look, I expect GFE, dfk, BBBJ, and mpos for 50 euro in a half hour session that actually lasts for 30 minutes. Is that agreeable to you, Ms. Thunder Tits?"[/i] If her answer is "no", then my answer is "no". So as long as a monger expresses exactly what he wants before going into a room, he's not going to get sharked unless the girl flat out lies what she's willing to do and for how much. Also, I get that keeping track of the time is also key lest time creeps up on you. I guess I don't see how this is any different from resisting high pressure girls at strip clubs. This is the closest comparison I can think of, at least for my American bretheren out there. Now, perhaps my ignorance is showing here (I will be a newbie to Europe afterall) , and I cannot imagine the draw of that many beautiful women walking around offering dick sucking vs. The typical cows you get in American strip clubs offering a $40 lap dance. I guess it just seems to me that if you know how to resist strippers (which I'm quite good at) , the same tactics will keep you perfectly safe at the Palace. If I'm missing something here, please let me know guys.

Thanks again for all the great information, and I look forward to meeting some of you while I'm at the Palace, and look forward to reporting my adventures![/QUOTE]I was in Palace in April and found very few girls who would take 50EU for a half-hour session with GFE, DFK, etc. All of the girls I approached and who approached me required 100EU for 1/2 hour without exception for those services. I told them that I would go elsewhere where such services were standard for 50EU.

If you can get to Mainhatten in Frankfurt, I suggest you go there. You'll be surprised at the excellent sessions from most of the hot women there. You may not have a larger selection at Mainhatten, but there are plenty to make you happy.

Just my experience. Others may have different ones.

[QUOTE=Mister Dante; 1422914].

So I've done a good bit of reading, and you guys have done an excellent job expressing what a newbie (such as myself) may expect to find. One thing that has me puzzled is the fear of sharks. As I understand it, nothing is committed between a monger and a girl until you step into the room. Also, as has been said so many times before hand, making it clear what is expected for what fee is the key. Example: [i]"Look, I expect GFE, dfk, BBBJ, and mpos for 50 euro in a half hour session that actually lasts for 30 minutes. Is that agreeable to you, Ms. Thunder Tits?"[/i] If her answer is "no", then my answer is "no". So as long as a monger expresses exactly what he wants before going into a room, he's not going to get sharked unless the girl flat out lies what she's willing to do and for how much. .[/QUOTE]If you're used to the strip club scene in the US, then the "sharks" at places like Palace are similar to pushy strippers who want a dance. It's a bit better since they're not constantly circling for tips like they do in American strip clubs. You're correct, you're not committed to a session until you agree to it (or until your dick is in her mouth, which is considered a de facto commitment).

In general though, and take this for what it's worth since it's based on only three or four visits, but I've had a much easier time getting good 50 Euro sessions at other clubs. The girls at Palace will session for 50 Euros, but it'll be more of a quickie and you're not all that likely to get DFK, DATY, etc. You should get BBBJ, but CIM is extra of course. The girls at Palace don't seem to take 'no' for an answer. I've even had some get a bit mad when I said no.

Last time I was at Palace, I was pretty disappointed in both the quality of the girls and the service. The girls seemed more hardened. They had lots of makeup on and many were enhanced with silicone, which is not my thing but of course that's a matter of personal opinion. The girls at Oase and Mainhatten are more like girls next door-more natural, very friendly but still very beautiful.

Palace was my first FKK experience, but in retrospect I would have been better off at Oase or Mainhatten. Oase has loads of girls and it's in between Palace and Mainhatten for sharkiness. The girls there can get aggressive, but they usually leave you alone if you ask. On the plus side, they're the most 'friendly' when they approach you, often they'll even grab your crotch and kiss you while trying to make the sale. Mainhatten is the most laid-back atmosphere, the girls approach you but often you need to make eye contact and sometimes you even need to approach them. It's the smallest club but I've always found plenty of girls worth sharing a room with. I suppose if you're not into the thin, model-type Romanian look then maybe you wouldn't like it as much, but I rather like that look.

I've had great 50 Euro sessions at Mainhatten that included DFK, BBBJ, DATY. 96, etc. It's the norm actually. I only went to Oase once but from what I remember my sessions there were also very good.

During my first FKK visit at Palace, I did meet a few stunners, but I ended up doing 100 euro sessions and they were pretty good. Last time I was at Palace I had a hard time finding girls I really liked. I did two half-hour sessions and both were mediocre at best. But, don't take all of this too seriously. You'll have a great time wherever you go. I used to go to strip clubs here in the US all the time, but now I can't justify going back since for the price of a lap dance or two, I can fuck a girl who makes many US strippers look like pigs.

If you have time you might check out the RLD too. I always like to do a warm-up quickie before heading to the FKK, and there are some real diamonds in the rough in the RLD that you can fuck for 20-30 euros.

Likemflat, I agree about the quality in American strip clubs. I think back at the amount of money I've blown on shitty dances in my travels and just cringe. I probably could have funded multiple trips back and forth to Germany or other international destinations. What a waste, but "woulda coulda shoulda", as they say. From what you and Forcharles are describing, I'm going to come up short on decent 50E GFE sessions, which brings up the discussion of what GFE entails. For me, as long as DFK is included, I'm good. The whole DFK for 50E inclusive topic has already been discussed here, so I won't belabor the topic again. I'll roll the dice on the Palace based on the proximity of where I'm staying, but be prepared to make other arrangements.

Oase and Mainhatten are definite possibilities for my trip still. Based on my reading, general concensus seems to be they don't have the quality of the Palace, but when compared to what I'm used to in America, Oase and Mainhatten are going to blow me out of the water. A solid 7 or 8 on the FKK scale seems to be a 9 or 10 in an American strip club. Fuck, for you guys who have never ventured Stateside, you don't understand how good you've got it! You could easily pay $400 for a single hour with a stunner here. Suffice to say, a moldy crust of bread looks like a steak dinner to a starving man, and brothers, we're starving for good pussy at a reasonable price in America.

Mister Dante, I was in the same boat as you two plus years ago before I visited Palace for the first time. I was afraid of all the "sharks" and all the fuss about it. Once I was in there it was nothing. I guess the strip club in US prepared us for this. You won't have any problems finding GFE with your approach and your interview. There are many girls that will provide GFE for a bare minimum 50E. You just have to get rid of all the sharks first. You can look at my reviews. Most girls I sessioned with all provided GFE with 50E. Have fun!

[QUOTE=Mister Dante;1423254]Oase and Mainhatten are definite possibilities for my trip still. Based on my reading, general concensus seems to be they don't have the quality of the Palace, but when compared to what I'm used to in America, Oase and Mainhatten are going to blow me out of the water.[/QUOTE]Aside from GFE style attitude and DFK, what else are you looking for in a girl? If you just want GFE and not too picky on looks, most clubs will work.

A major stereotype is that Palace contains more of the bimbo / silicone tits barbie type girls, while other clubs like Oase and World have more natural bodied. I agree with this a bit, but the biggest difference I experienced was how little you could get for a 50eur session at Palace if you're not careful. All club girls will upsell / keep attacking if you don't know what you want or make too much eye contact with girls you don't want. Just be nice about it and you won't get a bad rep with the other girls (they all talk). Just my rookie experience from Mainhatten, Palace, Oase & World.

If you like GFE with amped up looks (not my preference) , you may have to pay more for that at Palace. This may not apply to experienced or known mongers.

I happen to be visiting Frankfurt tomorrow on my sophomore visit. I'm going to World & Oase (I like GFE, slim natural girls).

F.

My advice to you all is to simply [b]Man Up[/b]!
I have never read anything so ridiculous as all this talk about sharks at Palace. Sounds to me like a lot of you guys deserve to be sharked. Lets face facts. If you cannot deal with a 20 year old, maybe a 25 year old girl in an FKK club, well I suggest that you guys stay at home and play Pinochle with Granma. Also a €50 half hour f#ck is the minimum spend in a FKK / Sauna Club. So if a hoe tries to get you to shell out for another 30 minutes in the zimmer or for cim, its not the end of the world is it? Specially if she does this in a reasonable manner! Unless of course you cannot afford another €50! In which case you probably should not be in an FKK / Sauna Club in the first place!

You lot need to get a grip :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Kommodore; 1423386]My advice to you all is to simply [b]Man Up[/b]!

I have never read anything so ridiculous as all this talk about sharks at Palace. Sounds to me like a lot of you guys deserve to be sharked. Lets face facts. If you cannot deal with a 20 year old, maybe a 25 year old girl in an FKK club, well I suggest that you guys stay at home and play Pinochle with Granma. Also a €50 half hour f#ck is the minimum spend in a FKK / Sauna Club. So if a hoe tries to get you to shell out for another 30 minutes in the zimmer or for cim, its not the end of the world is it? Specially if she does this in a reasonable manner! Unless of course you cannot afford another €50! In which case you probably should not be in an FKK / Sauna Club in the first place!

You lot need to get a grip.[/QUOTE]I agree 100 per cent! As I've said many times before, a tute isn't a shark just because she tries to upsell! When you're in "sales", that's what you're supposed to do! Will you have fries with that? LOL! Of course, how one makes the upsell pitch is important, but upselling is not "sharking" in and of itself. If you aren't interested in spending more, just say "no" (politely). And if the tute is rude or pushy or insists (like Alexandra "the Egyptian") , then just end the session. If you're on your game and doing proper interviews before you head to the zimmer, you should be able to avoid almost all of these problems. Use the big head on your shoulders to do proper screening before you let the little head between your legs direct you towards the bed chamber. Be in charge. Be the man! The man with the money in his pockets who spends it when and how he pleases on who or what he wants. Be the man.

[QUOTE=Kommodore; 1423386]My advice to you all is to simply [b]Man Up[/b]!

I have never read anything so ridiculous as all this talk about sharks at Palace. Sounds to me like a lot of you guys deserve to be sharked. Lets face facts. If you cannot deal with a 20 year old, maybe a 25 year old girl in an FKK club, well I suggest that you guys stay at home and play Pinochle with Granma. Also a €50 half hour f#ck is the minimum spend in a FKK / Sauna Club. So if a hoe tries to get you to shell out for another 30 minutes in the zimmer or for cim, its not the end of the world is it? Specially if she does this in a reasonable manner! Unless of course you cannot afford another €50! In which case you probably should not be in an FKK / Sauna Club in the first place!

You lot need to get a grip.[/QUOTE]Kommodore,

You speak correct. The way some mans talk about the hoes, it is like they are afraid of the womans. As the Cane says, it is their job to sell the product that they offers. If you cannot pick and choose from amongst the wares on offer and become depressed since she gives you a choice then there seems to be something rotten going on.

There seems this Palace bashing which is just a simple case of more assertive hoes giving an offering. Just have some game in saying no or be prepared to interview and talk to the hoe bevore committing to the room. Would you not do some research before you buy a new television? Ask a couple of questions to become comfortable would you not when you are at the electronics store?

That is all,

Njoy

[QUOTE=Kommodore; 1423386]My advice to you all is to simply [b]Man Up[/b]!

I have never read anything so ridiculous as all this talk about sharks at Palace. Sounds to me like a lot of you guys deserve to be sharked. Lets face facts. If you cannot deal with a 20 year old, maybe a 25 year old girl in an FKK club, well I suggest that you guys stay at home and play Pinochle with Granma. Also a €50 half hour f#ck is the minimum spend in a FKK / Sauna Club. So if a hoe tries to get you to shell out for another 30 minutes in the zimmer or for cim, its not the end of the world is it? Specially if she does this in a reasonable manner! Unless of course you cannot afford another €50! In which case you probably should not be in an FKK / Sauna Club in the first place!

You lot need to get a grip.[/QUOTE]Mr. Kommodore, clear, precise and straight to the point as usual!

Your words are simply perfect, we are adults and we should be able to manage a girl in a club! Moreover, as the The Cane said, upselling does not mean at all sharking, everything depends on how the girl is doing her sales pitch!

Then, if someone can only say yes to the first girl who comes by, it is his problem, not of the girl. The girl is simply doing her job!

One more thing, over the last 12 months I have been quite regularly and often to Palace and found great performers, not upselling and with very good looks (for my taste obviously). Then, of course, you must be able to understand first, not who is a shark or not but who is a good performer or not, doing an appropriate interview and, if you want something, putting the proper questions to the girls. If you are too shy to ask a WG about what you would like to do in zimmer, then, as you say, stay home eating biscuits and drinking tea with Grandma.

Just had 2 AMAZING days in the Palace, will be back with a report later. Just want to mention my alltime favorite girl: ISABELA from Spain. She is fucking awsome. She gave me the best GFE I've ever had.

I just have a question regarding the price for anal sex. I feel like a newbie asking this question, but lets go.

Is it correct that anal is 100 euros per 1/2 hour. I wanted to stay 3 hours with a girl, and wanted to have some anal sex too. Thought that I was going to pay her 400 for that. 300 euros for 3 hours + 100 euros for anal. She "kicked" me out after 2 hours. SHe told me that I had misunderstood a little. And that I have to pay 100 euros for 1/2 with anal sex. And 200 for 1 hour. Is this correct pricing? I can remember that I payed a latina only 200 euros for 1 hour with anal sex. I cannot remember whether we had anal sex for 1 hour.

Thanks,

Norwegian90

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;1423305]Mister Dante, I was in the same boat as you two plus years ago before I visited Palace for the first time. I was afraid of all the "sharks" and all the fuss about it. Once I was in there it was nothing. I guess the strip club in US prepared us for this. You won't have any problems finding GFE with your approach and your interview. There are many girls that will provide GFE for a bare minimum 50E. You just have to get rid of all the sharks first. You can look at my reviews. Most girls I sessioned with all provided GFE with 50E. Have fun![/QUOTE]BadinSweet, thanks man. That answers my primary question perfectly. I'm looking forward to the Palace experience!

Thanks to all for the further elaboration on the subject as well. As far the tea and biscuits comment goes: (1) I hate tea. Black coffee for me, thanks. (2) Grandma can't suck a dick to save her life unless she takes her teeth out, so I think I'll go to the Palace instead.

Peace Out.

[QUOTE=Norwegian90;1423535]Is it correct that anal is 100 euros per 1/2 hour. I wanted to stay 3 hours with a girl, and wanted to have some anal sex too. Thought that I was going to pay her 400 for that. 300 euros for 3 hours + 100 euros for anal. She "kicked" me out after 2 hours. SHe told me that I had misunderstood a little. And that I have to pay 100 euros for 1/2 with anal sex. And 200 for 1 hour. Is this correct pricing? I can remember that I payed a latina only 200 euros for 1 hour with anal sex. I cannot remember whether we had anal sex for 1 hour.[/QUOTE]Huh?

This sounds off to me. I guess if you had her for two hours and fucked her twice in the ass (two complete ass fuckings) I can see her point. But if you are with her for two hours and fuck her once in the ass and once "the American way"( :) ) no way would I feel she was entitled to a double anal fee. In other words extras are charged by the act not by time. If you take her for an hour and pay for CIM would she then expect you to pay twice for CIM because you were with her an hour? I guess if you came in her mouth twice maybe but otherwise no way.

AM

[QUOTE=Norwegian90; 1423535]Just had 2 AMAZING days in the Palace, will be back with a report later. Just want to mention my alltime favorite girl: ISABELA from Spain. She is fucking awsome. She gave me the best GFE I've ever had.

I just have a question regarding the price for anal sex. I feel like a newbie asking this question, but lets go.

Is it correct that anal is 100 euros per 1/2 hour. I wanted to stay 3 hours with a girl, and wanted to have some anal sex too. Thought that I was going to pay her 400 for that. 300 euros for 3 hours + 100 euros for anal. She "kicked" me out after 2 hours. SHe told me that I had misunderstood a little. And that I have to pay 100 euros for 1/2 with anal sex. And 200 for 1 hour. Is this correct pricing? I can remember that I payed a latina only 200 euros for 1 hour with anal sex. I cannot remember whether we had anal sex for 1 hour.

Thanks,

Norwegian90[/QUOTE]Anal in Palace is 100€, that's all. On top you pay for the time you stay in the room. So your calculation was correct. On the door of the rooms is hanging a paper with prices, you just had to point it to the girl.

[QUOTE=Norwegian90; 1423535].

Is it correct that anal is 100 euros per 1/2 hour. I wanted to stay 3 hours with a girl, and wanted to have some anal sex too. Thought that I was going to pay her 400 for that. 300 euros for 3 hours + 100 euros for anal. She "kicked" me out after 2 hours. SHe told me that I had misunderstood a little. And that I have to pay 100 euros for 1/2 with anal sex. And 200 for 1 hour. Is this correct pricing? .[/QUOTE]Not in my experience. I've always paid 50 / hour for the time in the room, and then if I choose anal or CIM, I've only paid once, so it is 50 extra for CIM or 100 extra for anal even if it's a one hour session. I suppose if you came during anal sex twice then maybe two charges would be warranted.