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[QUOTE=Giotto]They most likely change, but they have so much more money than the others that they immediately leave the "team" . Of course the other girls are jealous, too - because they are not that successful.
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What do you mean by "leave the team"?
[QUOTE=Amjeck]What do you mean by "leave the team"?[/QUOTE]
Same as " Taking one for the Team "
LBM
[QUOTE=Giotto]Most of the girls would appreciate any boyfriend, all money they can make ... if they can fulfill their commitments towards their families. They don't care about the "better" effect at all.[/QUOTE]
Only if you live there, or you bring them to your home, or if you get them OUT of the bars / out of BKK or Pat's or wherever you pull them from.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Seems to me that ANY girl making 2500BHT in 1 day (which pretty much any half descent girl can make), working only 20 days per month will make 50,000BHT/month. Very good money by Thai standards. They all live with roommates, eat cheap street food and drink free. So, why are they just above the poverty line?[/QUOTE]
The girls I know or have known, some make good money and are smart businesswomen and make cash. Others barely make 20 K a month. Rent, food, clothes, saloon, taxi, etc... and sending 10 K home a month to feed mom, papa, brothers, sisters, cousins, and their own children does not make them rich.
Yes they have rooms with items Farang's buy for them (radio, computer, tv, etc...) but cash... cash is short supply. Especially now in the bad economy. But once a girl is getting 20 K a month from a guy or 10 K a month, her needs (wants) do go up. It is only natural.
Other girls in Pat's are making on a few K baht and think 5 K is huge money. Some girls are lucky to get two / three customers a month. Other girls can get as many customers per week they want. Other girls are really honestly studying so while they might be hot they only go Short Time or only few times or only work two nights a week so do not get BF'd a lot.
Some girls have thai BF's in the back ground and only work part time to send home 5-10K a month and that is all they need or want.
But yes you are right, there are some top earners but very few overall. A top MP girl has her family live with her in BKK (sisters and brothers) and they go to university while she supports family at home. Her bank account is not as high as you would think and she doesn't waste it.
Average salary in BKK for uneducated people is what, 7,000 a month (I don't know I think it is around here). Usually you have entire families trying to work to pullin a couple of K a month. The girls that work bar, usually are the ONLY ones working in the family. Mama is watching children at home, sisters / brothers in school etc...
Personally, I don't care if they are using their body to separate cash from farangs, it usually lasts a few minutes, maybe two times, and a few times a month, doesn't make them less of a human being to me but they surely are not rich.
AND... add in age factor... you'll be better off finding a girl who is 28 or older who is really interested in being a good girl for one guy. Younger then that... we'll we've all nailed the young girls with "boy friends" even "husbands" but I've seen some girls old by bar standards make some great GF's and they've paid off the house, farm, and the sisters and brothers are done with college now etc....
[QUOTE=Amjeck]What do you mean by "leave the team"?[/QUOTE]
Leave the team to me means... a girl gets a guy to sponsor her, then she acts superior to the other working girls like she is better and higher class then them. She has a BF who is sending her money and supporting her so she is not need to talk to hang out or eat street food with the "working" girls.
She no longer fits into the "bar family" the other girls are jealous of course as they all want sponsorships or BF's that throw cash at them and they wait and talk and back stab the girl and wait for the BF to leave her and dump her for someone else.
[QUOTE=Bret76]Rule of thumb do not handout your mobile number as Thai chicks tend to be really clingy! [/QUOTE]
WHY? This is absolutely terrible advice.
GET mobile numbers and usually give then your number or they don't want to give up their number. Plus if you don't give them your number to put in their phone then you ring them up as an unknown person which they might not answer. If you work there get a monger phone number, a dual sim phone or whatever. The #1 most important rule is to keep contacts.
If the bars close or there is funeral or whatever then what are you going to do wank off? If you got numbers then use them. If it is 2 am and you have a girl bolt on you and you don't have numbers what are you going to do, wank off? You want to arrange a before work romp and save the bar fine or an after work romp to save the bar fines or whatever then how are you going to do that if you don't exchange numbers?
There is such a thing as putting your mobile on silent or vibrate when you are with a girl, and if you are with a girl let her know you have other girls calling you as you have other options that if she pulls the "I am so beautiful and the best you are going to get" then she knows you got options and can bail on her anytime you want.
Plus it's a financial transaction for 98% of the girls / guys here. WHO cares if you get a ring in the middle of being with a another girl? And if it is not just a financial transaction then the girl you are with better know you are a butterfly or go to the two phone system.
And if you don't like Clingy... then do not go to Philippines. They are the most obsessive girls out there. I even had a girl move to Tampa Florida because that is where I told her I was from (unfortunately that is where my FAMILY lives in the winter and that is where my ticket originated from that visit) and yes she did track down my mom and dad. :D Now that was a phone call with my mom I will never forget......
[QUOTE=SmartEuropean]I have already posted in the proper section my report about my (disappointing) visit to Pattaya. And now I write in brief my experience in Bkk. In short it is too big for mongering IMHO. I mean that I do not like the idea of choosing a hotel just near the mongering area.[/QUOTE]
I read both your reports and 1) you are a rookie and have no idea on what to do or not to do, 2) you did not do proper RTFF or you would not have made a lot of these mistakes.
Like going to any mongering country / city for a first time or first few times it takes a while to get to understand the locations and it is always best if you have a monger who is experienced with you. Now most of us did not or do not have the choice, so the best option was to sit and RTFF for about a month or two, ask polite questions ahead of time, PM folks for help (many posters here are very helpful and not jack asses like myself). And even long time posters / veterans learn new items every day from the reports of others.
In other words without being obsessive, spend time like CSUN213 and many others do and RTFF before you venture into others back yards and then say it was disappointing because of your lack of your success.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I read both your reports and 1) you are a rookie and have no idea on what to do or not to do, 2) you did not do proper RTFF or you would not have made a lot of these mistakes.
In other words without being obsessive, spend time like CSUN213 and many others do and RTFF before you venture into others back yards and then say it was disappointing because of your lack of your success.[/QUOTE]
That is what a 'SmartAss' would do :D
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]That is what a 'SmartAss' would do :D[/QUOTE]
Glad I proved my point in a nice fashion.... :D Or my gosh there might be a new survey put out by the Administrator about me (which they don't do anything about anyways).
I was originally thinking something along the lines like
SmartEuropean.... ummmmmm Okie Dokie..... yeah right......
Or
SmartEuropean = Biggest Contradiction I've ever heard....
Now that would have been Smart Ass if I posted something like that.
This is the same guy who posted this in the PI section a month ago:
[QUOTE=SmartEuropean]The point is that I am planning to marry a babe met in a bar in Angeles. And my question is: is that a good idea or not? Before replying, please, read till the bottom.[/QUOTE]
Seriously SE Patpong ????? That's the best advice someone gave you in BKK? Ten minutes RTFF and you could have gotten much better advice then Patpong so it only proves SE spent -0- time reading anything on the Forum that folks posted on GOOD EXPERIENCES.
Complain about Tulip???? Hell they ain't beauty queens but they can screw great and if you don't like their face put their face in a pillow and take them from behind if you are that bothered.... It's well documented which girls are average looking and it's well documented that Tulip is not where you go for model quality girls. You go there to screw and get a top notch screw. Very simple. So wow!!!! News Flash that SE saw three ugly girls at Tulip.
My point is SE, if you, and for all the other newbies out there, would have spent some time reading the forum and PM'd some guys or such many guys on this board would have gone out of their way to respond to you and give you advice to have made your trips to both Pattaya and BKK much more enjoyable.
Some people waste an expensive holiday, airfare, hotel, etc... because they didn't spend a few minutes to read the forum? Makes no sense but I guess god gave some people more money then common sense.
And Trav1234 Where the Hell are my PGA Shirts :D :D
Because its very difficult for the girls to get their pumped up bar fines paid at some places, and get people to give them big fat tips, if people appreciate just how much money these girls make.
Therefore its far easier to portray them with BS comments about being "just above the poverty line".
The majority of girls working in Bangkok for example are nowhere near the poverty line, they just know its very easy to open their legs and get easy cash without any consequences.
But hey, let the BS artists portray it as they wish, it might make you feel sorry for the girls and pay them more, and then the girls are happy to stay in work and the owners have less hassle retaining the girls - easy life for all.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Giotto,
Sounds good but since you have some working for you I have a question if I may. Seems to me that ANY girl making 2500BHT in 1 day (which pretty much any half descent girl can make), working only 20 days per month will make 50,000BHT/month. Very good money by Thai standards. They all live with roommates, eat cheap street food and drink free. So, why are they just above the poverty line?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Giotto,
Sounds good but since you have some working for you I have a question if I may. Seems to me that ANY girl making 2500BHT in 1 day (which pretty much any half descent girl can make), working only 20 days per month will make 50,000BHT/month. Very good money by Thai standards. They all live with roommates, eat cheap street food and drink free. So, why are they just above the poverty line?[/QUOTE]
I sometimes liken them to (before financial advisers came along) young professional sports players, kid who comes from poverty/no education and all of the sudden is a millionaire with no idea of how to save money. You will find all kinds though. I know one girl here who writes down every single baht she spends, has financed cancer treatments for her mother, and put a wad away towards buying a farm and retiring. I know another who has been working Soi Cowboy for two years yet has no house, no car (nor does anyone in her family) and absolutely no savings. And I know yet another 22 year old who could probably earn 5000+ a day if she wanted to, and what does she do with her talents? Gives every last baht to her young Thai bf who spends it all on drinking, gambling, and ladies. When you are young and you think that money grows on trees, it is easy to use it like toilet paper.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Personally, I don't care if they are using their body to separate cash from farangs, it usually lasts a few minutes, maybe two times, and a few times a month, doesn't make them less of a human being to me but they surely are not rich. [/QUOTE]
You know, sometimes I don't know what's worse.... the hooker or the customer.
After all, yes, they are prostitutes but we're not better. We purchase their services times and times again... maybe it's us who are the W.hores ;)
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]maybe it's us who are the W.hores ;)[/QUOTE]
Are you asking about "us" as a group or "us" as meaning me? :D
How can you even say or ask MAYBE it is us who are the wh@res? If it was not for us there would be no customers so there would be no jobs for them to do, so of course we are the wh@res.
If you are asking about me then you know I am a much bigger wh@re then the girls that are with me for damn sure. 100% absolutely positively the girls that are usually with me deserve much better. And you've known some of them and they are very nice people. It is unfortunate they end up with me.
This is why I do not judge them or look down on them. The fools are the customers who think they are smarter, better, and / or superior to the service providers. And I've been burnt folks, 100% admit it, we've probably all been burnt a time or two... :D
So good for them, they got me, but I had fun doing it. And the ones that did burn me bad, I'm still getting a piece of them for free so it's balancing out over time ;)
Make contact, keep contact. Turn phone off during sex.
I have lady from up country, in call if I am in town and can't go out. Text msg, She trots down for bus fare, dinner, a little shopping and bingo felatio, wet as wet pussy, multi-orgasmic, some cash, bye bye back to business next day.
Tampa??? So she offered to blow your Dad? and let Mom watch?
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]WHY? This is absolutely terrible advice.
GET mobile numbers ... The #1 most important rule is to keep contacts.
If the bars close or there is funeral or whatever then what are you going to do wank off?
I even had a girl move to Tampa Florida because that is where I told her I was from (unfortunately that is where my FAMILY lives in the winter and that is where my ticket originated from that visit) and yes she did track down my mom and dad. :D
Now that was a phone call with my mom I will never forget......[/QUOTE]
So I guess you need to read the hotel thread and not make the same mistake the next time ....
[QUOTE=SmartEuropean]I have already posted in the proper section my report about my (disappointing) visit to Pattaya. And now I write in brief my experience in Bkk. In short it is too big for mongering IMHO. I mean that I do not like the idea of choosing a hotel just near the mongering area. Because then I waste too much time to go and see the town or enjoy other past times. So I got a room near Grand Palais and it was nice for my tourist goals. But terribly far and uncomfortable for the honey. So I just focused on tourism which, for the first time in Bkk, is not that bad. I went to Patpong once and saw something nice. But, once again, the ST was a must. Since I was at at least 40 minutes by taxi from my room it was impossible and, as I already said, I do not like to use bar rooms. And I went to Tulip once as well. My goodness: just three not young, not pretty not hot ladies. So I left the place and the idea on having some honey in this first time in Bkk of mine.[/QUOTE]