Bogota Reports

Boys,

I was in Bogota in late September and fell in love with a beautiful Colombian from Troya. The plan was to get her a passport so I could fly her up to Mexico to one of my time shares. She was a sweetie who was out of place in SF. I got her out of there and back with her fam in Cucuta. Anyway maybe I'm a fool but she is such a sweet heart and I just fell hard. Been at this game for a long time and well now I'm meeting up with her in Acapulco Friday. Just throwing out this post to show the possibilities. Acapulco thread seems dead but a Colombian import will make my week.

[QUOTE=HotRockIt;2421742]
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Guys just got back from Bogota. Very dangerous. When I was there. It appears possible gang violence, I heard many gun shots, and the girls told me rival gangs. The place was seedy, the rooms are trash and you only get 20 minute intervals, which really sucks for lack of a better term. The bars hound you, and rip you off for beers. They charged me 30 mil for a warm corona. The selection of street girls was nothing short of terrible at best. Can't wait to get back to the facebook paradise in Medellin.

[QUOTE=ElBacano;2422002]Guys just got back from Bogota. Very dangerous. When I was there. It appears possible gang violence, I heard many gun shots, and the girls told me rival gangs. The place was seedy, the rooms are trash and you only get 20 minute intervals, which really sucks for lack of a better term. The bars hound you, and rip you off for beers. They charged me 30 mil for a warm corona. The selection of street girls was nothing short of terrible at best. Can't wait to get back to the facebook paradise in Medellin.[/QUOTE]What's the point of writing the same message twice?

[QUOTE=RyckII;2421878]Antibiotics you can get anywhere and plan be (levonogestrel 1. 5 MG) you can also get very easily for about 4 USD if you get the generic one. There is a website called farmatodo and another one called farmalisto in which you can buy many pharmaceuticals and they will deliver to your hotel or apartment and pay on delivery. For some restricted ones like valium I am not sure if they deliver but you can try and let us know.[/QUOTE]Thank you! I'll check them out.

(Thank everyone HotRockIt, Ryck II, Iguana Six and everyone else).

I'd still really like to hear some SA advice / whatsapp what to negotiate and where and how to negotiate broach GFE?

Also, anyone has had experience with Hotel Tequendama, in general, and with respect to guest.

I have tried that twice and it failed both times. Once Colombia wouldn't let the woman leave. The second time the Colombian made it to Mexico, but she was held up in Mexico City, put into a customs type jail, had her shoes stolen, luggage broken into, and she was sent back two days later.

If you think Mexicans are treated rough in the USA, you should see how the Mexicans treat South Americans.

The Mexicans assume that any single, young attractive South American woman is coming to Mexico to prostitute themselves. You have to give her enough money to show that she is going to spend it in Mexico, which is a huge risk, and maybe you can work something out that she has some sort of job back in Colombia, family ETC to show the Mexicans that she isn't planning to stay, but that is another huge risk. I would bet you a $100 if you go through with this plan that you will find yourself alone and depressed.

If you look on twitter, you will see Colombian and Venezuelans escorts all over Mexico. Juan Carter, who knows more about this than I ever would as he is king of Mexico City, has stated that all these women are trafficked by the cartels. You can check out labotique and Twitter to find women available in Acapulco and throughout Mexico. I have heard that Mexican customs can be bribed. I should have asked the South American escorts I saw from Twitter how they got in, but I didn't. If you want a Colombian woman in Mexico, I would look to Twitter and Labotique and forget about importing any in.

And don't fool yourself. This isn't just me. Another guy on here complained about the same thing, and it failed. He tried to import four women into Mexico, and he was told for $4000, the least attractive of the four he brought in could come. He balked at that, and all four women were sent back.

I don't know about other places. Mexico would have been by far the most convenient for me, but I am going to be looking at other intermediate spots probably in the Caribbean. I don't think those countries are as worried about Colombians staying and living there, but I could be wrong.

For you, though, Gmoney, I would recommend that you take your woman to San Andreas if you have the time. You would have to connect through Panama or Colombia so it is a price you have to pay time wise, but her plane ticket will be much less, and you won't have any visa issues with her as San Andreas, though close to Nicaragua, is owned by Colombia.

And by the way, she isn't out of place. You are just thinking that it is not normal to find someone so sweet working a strip club, and it is somewhat normal to find that in Colombia. I think the average streetwalker in Santa Fe puts more effort into the sexual act than all but the highest paid escorts in North America.

[QUOTE=GMoney582;2421879]Boys,

I was in Bogota in late September and fell in love with a beautiful Colombian from Troya. The plan was to get her a passport so I could fly her up to Mexico to one of my time shares. She was a sweetie who was out of place in SF. I got her out of there and back with her fam in Cucuta. Anyway maybe I'm a fool but she is such a sweet heart and I just fell hard. Been at this game for a long time and well now I'm meeting up with her in Acapulco Friday. Just throwing out this post to show the possibilities. Acapulco thread seems dead but a Colombian import will make my week.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GMoney582;2421879]Anyway maybe I'm a fool but she is such a sweet heart and I just fell hard.[/QUOTE]Yup, that pretty much says it all. Don't be another white knight with money to blow by trying to pick a girl up out of the gutter to "save" her from the streets. Look, I'm sure you're a nice guy with good intentions, but I'm telling you man, this will backfire on you. Do yourself a favor, and listen to this clip and take it to heart:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIFcqCc2B6U[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2422179]I have tried that twice and it failed both times. Once Colombia wouldn't let the woman leave. The second time the Colombian made it to Mexico, but she was held up in Mexico City, put into a customs type jail, had her shoes stolen, luggage broken into, and she was sent back two days later.

If you think Mexicans are treated rough in the USA, you should see how the Mexicans treat South Americans.

The Mexicans assume that any single, young attractive South American woman is coming to Mexico to prostitute themselves. You have to give her enough money to show that she is going to spend it in Mexico, which is a huge risk, and maybe you can work something out that she has some sort of job back in Colombia, family ETC to show the Mexicans that she isn't planning to stay, but that is another huge risk. I would bet you a $100 if you go through with this plan that you will find yourself alone and depressed.[/QUOTE]

That sucks, I took a chica I've been dealing with for awhile to Cancun and Playa Del Carmen last year and we didn't have any problems. I flew to Medellin, then we flew to Cancun together, then back to Medellin for a few more days of solo fun, then I went back to the USA. Not sure if we didn't have any problems just because I was with her and I was obviously a tourist, and they just assumed she was good cause she was with a gringo or what? But it was a breeze, no different from any trip I've ever taken thru customs to go somewhere. No problems for both of us. But I have heard of things going bad, and I was definitely worried something might go wrong and ruin the trip, and waste a bunch of money LOL.

[QUOTE=HotRockIt;2422208]That sucks, I took a chica I've been dealing with for awhile to Cancun and Playa Del Carmen last year and we didn't have any problems. I flew to Medellin, then we flew to Cancun together, then back to Medellin for a few more days of solo fun, then I went back to the USA. Not sure if we didn't have any problems just because I was with her and I was obviously a tourist, and they just assumed she was good cause she was with a gringo or what?[/QUOTE]Hotrock, I think your going with her was huge. Also, Cancun seems to be much less of a problem than Mexico City.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2422213]Hotrock, I think your going with her was huge. Also, Cancun seems to be much less of a problem than Mexico City.[/QUOTE]My 2 cents is to keep the Colombianas in Colombia. There are many incredible places to visit and see, without dealing with another country's immigration system. Places most of these women will never see. San Andres is just one example. Take her to an ecohab in Parque Tayrona, or to Escobar's old hotel in Bahia Solano. Take her down to Leticia, if you can handle the heat and humidity.

Depending on your age and fitness level, there's dozens of options. If you really want to splurge, take her to Europe. Less hassle, more options.

I think you're correct, it's much better to take her somewhere than to have her meet you somewhere.

Also, I agree about Juan Carter and CDMX. He's an encyclopedia and very happy to help.

[QUOTE=ElBacano;2422002]Guys just got back from Bogota. Very dangerous. When I was there. It appears possible gang violence, I heard many gun shots, and the girls told me rival gangs. The place was seedy, the rooms are trash and you only get 20 minute intervals, which really sucks for lack of a better term. The bars hound you, and rip you off for beers. They charged me 30 mil for a warm corona. The selection of street girls was nothing short of terrible at best. Can't wait to get back to the facebook paradise in Medellin.[/QUOTE]You Sound like a Medellin Mansion Schill who really does not know what he is talking about.

[QUOTE=GMoney582;2421879]Boys,

I was in Bogota in late September and fell in love with a beautiful Colombian from Troya. The plan was to get her a passport so I could fly her up to Mexico to one of my time shares. She was a sweetie who was out of place in SF. I got her out of there and back with her fam in Cucuta. Anyway maybe I'm a fool but she is such a sweet heart and I just fell hard. Been at this game for a long time and well now I'm meeting up with her in Acapulco Friday. Just throwing out this post to show the possibilities. Acapulco thread seems dead but a Colombian import will make my week.[/QUOTE]Believe I met her! Think her name was Katerina, short with a cute face and a booty. Definitely remember her being from Cucuta. Anyhow, I know a few Colombianas that made it to Mexico for a vacation without any problems. One of them stayed there and works as a sugarbaby on SA. Hope it works out for you.

[QUOTE=Diviant;2422038]Thank you! I'll check them out.

(Thank everyone HotRockIt, Ryck II, Iguana Six and everyone else).

I'd still really like to hear some SA advice / whatsapp what to negotiate and where and how to negotiate broach GFE?

Also, anyone has had experience with Hotel Tequendama, in general, and with respect to guest.[/QUOTE]Tequendama used to be a really nice hotel when I was managed by the Intercontinental Hotel Chain, in the 90's it became Tequendama Crown Plaza and was still ok. Since the building actually belongs to the government and for some reason the deal with Intercontinental was ended, now is handled like an independent hotel. All this to say that it may not have the same quality it used to have. Rumor has it that the deal ended because Intercontinental requested a major refurbishing and government declined to pay for it. With respect to guests, hotels require guests to leave before 11 and to leave an ID in the reception. If they want to stay all night most probably a guest surcharge will be applied.

[QUOTE=RyckII;2422595]Tequendama used to be a really nice hotel when I was managed by the Intercontinental Hotel Chain, in the 90's it became Tequendama Crown Plaza and was still ok. Since the building actually belongs to the government and for some reason the deal with Intercontinental was ended, now is handled like an independent hotel. All this to say that it may not have the same quality it used to have. Rumor has it that the deal ended because Intercontinental requested a major refurbishing and government declined to pay for it. With respect to guests, hotels require guests to leave before 11 and to leave an ID in the reception. If they want to stay all night most probably a guest surcharge will be applied.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Interesting, well I got a backup AirBnb. I've never used it before so, it might be an alternative. I'll check into the hotel then next day at the Airbnb and see what's what.

Well SA seems to be going well. Have a bunch in my phone. I'm thinking most of them are just pros but not a huge problem. I only have one that can speak English, I'll check and see if she'll do guide and more. I haven't tried negotiating yet. I obviously don't have the extra money some of you guys do. Flying girls with you. Wow. If the ones I'm talking to expect that then they'll be very unhappy.

Any negotiating tips would be welcome. I read on this from someone that he meet them at the hotel for dinner or drinks then after, basically paid what he thought. I'd be scared they would demand allot, if I did that.

Weather:

I am not happy below 60 degrees so Bogota was not for me. The temps drop below 60 degrees at 7 pm and below 50 degrees at 10 pm. The temperature does not return to 60 degrees until around 10 am. Basically 60 degrees and above for 9 hours and 15 hours of below 60 degrees. It matters to me because the ST hotels are cold if not used in the afternoon. Even though I am wearing a jacket my hands are cold so the girls do not want me touching them with my cold hands. The girl wear practically nothing which still amazes me how they can do it. So I do not want them touching me with their cold hands.

It has been fairly sunny but I have an oily complexion so my face and top of my head was fried climbing the church on the hill (Montserrat). Swear I peeled twice. Then burned the top of my head a little walking for 5 hours one day. That happened in 1 month compared to no burns when I stayed in Cucuta for 2 months and they reached high 80's low 90's every day.

Hotels:

I looked at several hotel rooms in person and San Francisco was the closest, cleanest, and best value in my opinion. I got lucky and found sale price of $17, with taxes / fees $20 a night with a good breakfast.

Street Scene:

If Centro in Medellin scares you then do not come here. It is worse. First visit was Medellin. Second Cucuta. Now Bogota and it made me the most uncomfortable. Worse sidewalks with shit, pee, and spit everywhere. But what made me uneasy was so many guys hanging out for no reason no purpose. Some were homeless, boyfriends of the girls, the boyfriend's loser friends, and what I assume were guys waiting for an opportunity to steal something.

The A, be, and CTeam Girl Areas:

The ATeam girls are prettier, the most girls, and cost more. They ask all kinds of prices. The be girls mostly ask for the same lower price, more older and ugly girls, less girls, but have some far out outfits. Never saw any girls of interest in the see group. Now where they are.

TeamA. Start at corner Calle 24 and Carrera 15 (La Piscina Night Club street).

Girls on Calle 24 between Carrera 15 Carrera and 16 a. Then down Carrera 15,16, 16 a to Calle 23. Girls on Calle 23 between Carrera 15 Carrera and 16 a.

Now walk down Carrera 15 two streets to Calle 22. Girls on Calle 22 between Carrera 16 a (2 blocks to your right) and Carrera 14 bis (gas station).

Turn left to the gas station. Then right onto Carrera 14 bis. This is where the BTeam starts. The first street is trannies. The second block has girls. You run into Calle 20. There are girls up to the corner to Carrera 16, but at the corner half are trannies. Turn right. Walk less then half a block and turn left onto Carrera 15 bis. Go to the end of the block and hit major street Calle 19. Turn left. Many trannies start here with some girls mixed in. Walk one block to Avenida Caracas. Cross Avenida Caracas.

The CTeam starts here. I never saw anything good here but never visited after dark. Very short walk half block to Carrera 13 a. Turn left. Walk 1 block. One street with older women. Now return back to Avenida Caracas. Turn left on Avenida Caracas one street to Calle 18. Turn left. Walk down Calle 18 for 3 blocks while looking both left and right up the side streets for girls as you pass them. That ends the see Team area.

MISC:

Love big boobs. I swear almost every girl with big boobs were plastic. Hate the feel of them. Some of the scars are horrible. One girl had nerve damage. Suck on the left but not the right because it hurt her. Very sad.

Saw a foreigner with a backpack on the side of the gas station (trannie area) translating away on his phone to the police. Something bad. No idea what happened but had to laugh at him.

Dentist:

[URL]www.1485dentalspa.com[/URL]

Diana Medina speaks English and is pretty (see pic on website)! They charge 50,000 for exam. If you do not get any procedure done they keep the 50,000. Otherwise it applies to your bill. Reasoning is they offer free drinks and massage. I had neither. I doubt they have such a pretty massage girl that is shown on theie website.

Summary:

The cold weather made me lose 10% of my normal get-up-and-go. Used to warmer areas. The altitude caused another 10% drop in my get-up-and-go. Lastly the trash, spit, pee, shit, and bad sidewalks caused 10% of interest to run out the door. I actually saw 5 guys peeing in daylight hours. This guy and his buddy were facing the wall. Thought they were doing drugs but no. They were peeing and I nearly stepped in it as it ran down the sidewalk. This place is not for me!