FKK Palace - Frankfurt

[QUOTE=Mister Dante; 1423254]Likemflat, I agree about the quality in American strip clubs. I think back at the amount of money I've blown on shitty dances in my travels and just cringe. I probably could have funded multiple trips back and forth to Germany or other international destinations. What a waste, but "woulda coulda shoulda", as they say. From what you and Forcharles are describing, I'm going to come up short on decent 50E GFE sessions, which brings up the discussion of what GFE entails. For me, as long as DFK is included, I'm good. The whole DFK for 50E inclusive topic has already been discussed here, so I won't belabor the topic again. I'll roll the dice on the Palace based on the proximity of where I'm staying, but be prepared to make other arrangements.

Oase and Mainhatten are definite possibilities for my trip still. Based on my reading, general concensus seems to be they don't have the quality of the Palace, but when compared to what I'm used to in America, Oase and Mainhatten are going to blow me out of the water. A solid 7 or 8 on the FKK scale seems to be a 9 or 10 in an American strip club. Fuck, for you guys who have never ventured Stateside, you don't understand how good you've got it! You could easily pay $400 for a single hour with a stunner here. Suffice to say, a moldy crust of bread looks like a steak dinner to a starving man, and brothers, we're starving for good pussy at a reasonable price in America.[/QUOTE]Amen brother. If only I could have all of the cash back that I've blown at these rip-off joints over the years. Now whenever I think about hitting an American strip club, I set aside the cash for my next trip to Frankfurt.

I've admittedly only been to Palace three or four times but in my opinion the girls at Oase and Mainhatten are younger and more natural. But again, this is a generalization based on only a few trips. The first and second time I was at Palace I fucked two of the most beautiful girls I've ever been with. But the last time I could barely find anyone worth a session.

To answer your question though, in general, I've had better GFE attitudes at the other clubs, though certainly you can get good sessions at Palace if you are sure to explain what you want.

It has nothing to do with "sharks", as I said if you're used to the USA strip club scene this will be a non-issue. But at Palace you need to be a little more careful about specifying what you want and how much you want to spend.

[QUOTE=Likemflat;1423557]Not in my experience. I've always paid 50 / hour for the time in the room[/QUOTE]50€/30min, just to confirm.

HB

Thanks for you inputs guys. She didn't actually kick me out, but ended the session earlier. But I planned to spend 400 euros on her. 300 euros for 3 hours. Plus 100 euros for anal. That was my plan. When I got out of the shower etc I noticed that I had just spent 2 hours with her. I got confused. As I don't wear a watch, and even asked her about the time. She knew I wanted 3 hours. SO I started to feel tricked. I have to be clear that we had a lot of anal sex, lets say at least 1 hour. We did a lot o f positions. But I think I came when I was inside her pussy. So afterwards she said / explained me that she could have charged me 600 euros because we had that much anal sex. But she ended the session one hour before because she knew I only" had 400 euros. I have also always understood that you pay 100 euros for anal and thats it, not 100 euros per 30 min in the zimmer. We also went from ass fucking to pussyfucking and blowjobs many times. I understand her to a certain point but I still feel that it was weird of her to end the session that early.

Norwegian90

[QUOTE=Norwegian90;1423693]I understand her to a certain point but I still feel that it was weird of her to end the session that early[/QUOTE]It seems to me that she shut you down early because she did not expect the sort of session you gave her. I mean as far as I can see an hour session with anal would include kissing, BJ, vaginal sex and then some anal, perhaps 10-15 mins at the end. If you gave her an hour of solid ass jamming I can understand how she kind of expects more for her work. I can imagine that this is not "normal". It seems though that she did it rather badly and kind of cut you loose as a possible repeat customer. If an hour+ of solid ass ponding is something you like to do and expect you might just next time clarify this with the girl. Myself, if I last 5 mins. In a girls ass (I am not a very frequent buyer of that service and have to know the girl is good at it to do so) I am lucky. So with me 100 is a pretty goood deal for the girl.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1423886]It seems to me that she shut you down early because she did not expect the sort of session you gave her. I mean as far as I can see an hour session with anal would include kissing, BJ, vaginal sex and then some anal, perhaps 10-15 mins at the end. If you gave her an hour of solid ass jamming I can understand how she kind of expects more for her work. I can imagine that this is not "normal". It seems though that she did it rather badly and kind of cut you loose as a possible repeat customer. If an hour+ of solid ass ponding is something you like to do and expect you might just next time clarify this with the girl. Myself, if I last 5 mins. In a girls ass (I am not a very frequent buyer of that service and have to know the girl is good at it to do so) I am lucky. So with me 100 is a pretty goood deal for the girl.

AM[/QUOTE]This may shock you, but this girl actually was my favorite ISABEL from Spain:O. So we had a really nice connexion, as I mentioned she gave me the best GFE I have had in my life. We kissed, she blew me and we had vaginal sex in between. She came really hard while riding me. Her pulse was really intense, not possible to fake that hehe And I didn't jammed" her ass at all hehe. But in total we had quite a lot of anal sex. She let me put my fingers inside her pussy at the same time, that was awsome. She did things that most girls want do.

The thing is that I spent a lot of money / hours on her these two days. And she knew that I will be back already in June. (I told her this the first day) So WHY would she do anything like that? I just can't understand it. I spoke with her regarding that I felt that she tricked me a little, because I only stayed 2 hours. I expected to stay 3 hours with her for that amount. Beacause I told her that I wanted 3 hours plus anal. She answered that the price structure was different from what I have seen. You pay 100 euros per 1/2 of anal sex. May it be that she totally have misunderstood the price structure her self? I know it sounds really weird, but why the heck would she want to shark" a good client like me? Or maybe she kind of made up her own rules. Or maybe she got sick of me, and wanted to end the session earlier. I KNOW that you never know for sure with a working girl. They know how to seduce a man etc, and it is not that easy to know if she's telling the truth or what. But I really have problems acusing her for beeing a shark", as we had a really good conexion and she really was a special girl. PS. I am not a newbie, I choose my girls wisely. And have never got sharked badly before. And this is NOT stopping me from repeating with that awsome spanish girl. Just wanted to hear your guys opinions.

Thanks for your inputs guys.

Confused Norwegian90:P

From my point of view there isn't any standard rule for anal price structure for long time booking. When I spend 2 hours in room with a girl and have anal and no other extras I usually give the girl 300 euro. But doing long time booking and anal is only with my regular girls. So none of these girls complaint about 300 euro. Ok from the formal point the girl can insist you have to pay 200 for the time and 400 for anal in two hours that mean in total 600 euro; but only in the case you've had anal sex in every of the four 30 minutes periods.

A compromise on this subject is maybe how long you've fucked her in the ass. And of course only by estimation, exact time stopping would be ridiculous and spoil the mood. So if you've fucked her in the two hours not much more than 30 minutes in the ass I'the never give more than 300 euro in total. Have you fucked her on the other hand the whole two hours in the ass than I think the girl should get more and can instist on 600 euro. CIM or COF is clear you pay 50 euro extra for each finish. For anal in long time booking it's irrelevant how many times you finish in her ass.

But best thing is when you book a new girl long time and doing anal clear this thing and the price with the girl before you go in room with her.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1423886]It seems to me that she shut you down early because she did not expect the sort of session you gave her. If you gave her an hour of solid ass jamming I can understand how she kind of expects more for her work.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.dvice.com/archives/2011/10/we-now-know-why.php[/url]

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1423671]50€/30min, just to confirm.

HB[/QUOTE]You are correct, my mistake. Sorry about that.

[QUOTE=Norwegian90;1423693]Thanks for you inputs guys. She didn't actually kick me out, but ended the session earlier. But I planned to spend 400 euros on her. 300 euros for 3 hours. Plus 100 euros for anal. That was my plan. When I got out of the shower etc I noticed that I had just spent 2 hours with her. I got confused. As I don't wear a watch, and even asked her about the time. She knew I wanted 3 hours. SO I started to feel tricked. I have to be clear that we had a lot of anal sex, lets say at least 1 hour. We did a lot o f positions. But I think I came when I was inside her pussy. So afterwards she said / explained me that she could have charged me 600 euros because we had that much anal sex. But she ended the session one hour before because she knew I only" had 400 euros. I have also always understood that you pay 100 euros for anal and thats it, not 100 euros per 30 min in the zimmer. We also went from ass fucking to pussyfucking and blowjobs many times. I understand her to a certain point but I still feel that it was weird of her to end the session that early.[/QUOTE]Norwegian90,

This is an interesting point.

Some old school hoes like Virona will let you fuck their asses for as long as the booking is running for the single surcharge. So this is ass fucking for as much as you can handle in your half hour or 10 hour booking.

What you will find more often is that the prices the hoes will contemplate is 100 euro per attempt or in the NRW 50 euro per attempt. Now there are different definitions on what attempt means amongst the hoes. For some NRW hoes I have found that once you are in and you have the erection and you are fucking away and with that same erection you fuck her in several positions, okay not for like half hour non stop but for a decent period then that is one attempt. If after you take a break and want some more anal regardless if you came or not then she may believe she is entitled to charge an additional 50 euro on top especially if there has been a decent hiatus between bouts of anal sex. I have had German hoes warn before attempting to stick my cock in their asses again that they might charge me another 50 euro after I took a break from banging their assholes.

Similar again in Hessen, some hoes will do similar and charge the anal sex surcharge based on the session length. Other hoes like Lina may charge anal sex surcharge based on times you came with anal sex. So if you fuck her ass to completion in round one and you fuck her ass again in round two in the same booking then that is two surcharges for anal sex.

Maybe The Cane can enlightened us with his experience since he has a 40% anal sex ratio with his FKK encounters and I am sure my overall ratio is much less. The Romanian hoes are less likely to allow Anal as would the Czech, Polish and German hoes do.

Found this one minute video of the Palace interior showing the facilities available including the wellness.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PezW6oJHkTM&feature=player_embedded#[/url]!

Njoy

[quote=yakob; 1424251]norwegian90,

maybe the cane can enlightened us with his experience since he has a 40% anal sex ratio with his fkk encounters and i am sure my overall ratio is much less. the romanian hoes are less likely to allow anal as would the czech, polish and german hoes do.[/quote]my typical anal session with a girl is for one hour. for that, i normally pay 200 euros (100 for the hour plus 100 anus surcharge). when i was at gt and butt fucked the finest girl in the house according to my personal tastes, i paid only 125 euros (75 for the hour plus 50 [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] chute surcharge). the pricing structure at the nrw clubs is a real deal for a butt fucker if you can get the girls to stick with the house rules. i always insist that they do just that, no matter where i'm at. and, i've never had a problem with them following the rules. knowing what things should cost going in and being confident = no tudes from the tutes.

now, my understanding of the house rules at every fkk i have ever been to is that the anal surcharge is a one time fee per session. so, if i am with a girl for two hours and i fuck her in the butt (i don't care how long over the session) , then i owe her 300 euros in a hesson club. less (according to the house rules) in an nrw club. if i were with a girl for four hours and dicked her up the butt, then i would owe her 500 euros. and so on. we're talking 100 for each hour plus a one time payment of 100 for the pleasure of her yin yang (50 euros at the nrw clubs).

all that said, if i did happen to butt fuck a girl for, say, two hours straight over a three hour session, well then i would agree that she went above and beyond and would deserve something more. there's nothing wrong with recognizing and rewarding an outstanding provider every once and awhile. but here's the thing. both the monger and the tute need to discuss these things before they happen! monger don't do the deed, then not expect that you will be asked to pay something more! and tute, don't do the deed and then turn around and ask for more after the fact! this is where i find that two people run into difficulty. they don't adequately discuss what they want to do before they do it. talk about it all and get it settled before you go to the zimmer! if you need to discuss more in the room, then talk about it before you do it.

so in my view, if you didn't talk about something different beforehand, then the house rules control. and, i haven't been to a single fkk yet where it was explained to me that anal was ever more than 50 to 100 euros in a single session. in other words, my position is that the length of the session (and the anal sex) is irrelevant as to the anal surcharge unless the monger and the tute have agreed to something else. and to be honest, generally speaking i am strongly opposed to any such side deals and would not personally make them myself unless the service had been truly uber outstanding, because all that does over time is drive the pricing structure up. this is why so many tutes at places like gt won't accept 75 euros for an hour session when that's exactly what the house rules call for! you have girls now who won't provide gfe in a 30 minute session for 50 euros because too many guys started giving them 100 euros for a 30 minute gfe!

i won't contribute to any such negative outcomes for mongerdom. i won't say that i would never "tip", but i rarely ever do that because then "tips" become "demands" and drive the overall price for services up. this is already an expensive hobby! i can't even remember the last time i tipped. luckily for me, this whole issue rarely comes up thought. i tend to stick to hour-long sessions that are easy to manage when it comes to what is owed at the end. no fkk girl has ever tried to charge me extra for anal, even if i was in her asshole for a very long time during the session. i like the way the braziilan termas work better. the set price covers everything. no surcharges and stuff like that. the only thing you have to make sure of is that the girl does what you like. if she's "completa", then you can fuck her in the "cuzinha" for as long as the day is long with no extra charges to worry about.

oh and yakob, in my experience i have found romanian and czech girls to be quite willing to be analized. polish girls too, but somewhat less. i have not had a lot of success with german girls though. for one thing, there just aren't so many of them at my favorite clubs. and when i do meet one, either i don't find her attractive, or she doesn't butt fuck. i couldn't believe that pretty german lynn / julia who i knew from oase and artemis didn't cornhole with such a beautiful, big, tanned german arsch like that. now, that was one german i wanted to bugger! russian and ukranian girls are some of my favorite anal providers. they are some of the best. indeed, slavic girl butt holes are as good as the brazilian ones!

Was just at the Palace last night. Second time there in a year. It was a Sunday evening so I took the advice of some previous posters and went in the middle of the shift change around 6:00pm. Fairly slow evening but some very good options for women. Overall the women seemed a little more aggressive this time around. Even when it was made clear that I wanted to just relax they would still be all over me. I don't have an issue with it, can't blame them for wanting to make some money but I had just arrived on a very long flight and I think they should respect some relaxation time. I tend to go for the ones who aren't begging you to go in a room with them. There was a table with 4 tattooed girls I believe all of them from Hamburg Germany, they apparently tend to flock together. I don't mind some ink. One of them had approached me very respectfully just about 20 minutes earlier so I went back to her. I was clear in what I wanted, BBBJ then anal then BBBJCIM. She agreed. I think all the girls who are tattooed up allow anal, not trying to stereotype but it seems true in my experiences there. I don't remember this girls name but she had full sleeve tattoos and long brown hair to her ass. She also had a perfect little disney nose and nice fill lips. We went back to the room and got down to business. She started with the BBBJ just as discussed. Her technique was fantastic actually it was a little too good I had to ask her to slow down otherwise we would never get to the anal. After about 5 minutes of this which included me in the standing position on the bed with her on her knees, I told her I wanted to fuck her ass, she asked which position and I told her to get on her hands and knees. Out came the condom and the lube she got on all fours facing the mirror. I got behind her she grabbed my cock from underneath and told me to PUSH! I obliged, it was a tight fit at first but then she loosened up a bit. I started out on my knees behind her but then I went up to my feet so I could really get some leverage. I pounded her for about 15 minutes this way until she asked me if I wanted oral again. I asked her if she had enough of the anal (I think she thought I was going to come quick this way but I find it hard to come in general with a condom) So I ripped off the condom back to me standing with her on her knees and she sucked like crazy. I've been working on controlling my orgasms and I'm now to the point where I can completely refrain from ejaculation even once I'm to the point of no return. There were a couple times when she thought I was going to blow but I was able to hold back. I could tell she was getting anxious to finally I let it go with her jerking me off into her mouth. I had been a full week for me so it was a substantial load. She took it without a problem. At first I thought she swallowed it because she took me back into her mouth after. This always amazes me how a girl can suck dick with a mouth full of cum and not swallow it. But she got up and spit it out. Went back to the locker I gave her 200 euros and she was on her way. Great experience overall. Feel like I got my money and my time worth.

Second girl was from Romania and her name was Annabella. Now this girl was exactly my type. Petite, young, olive skin, medium length hair in a ponytail, cute face, nice full lips with blazing pink lipstick, and a great little ass. We had talked earlier in the evening about how great she was at blow jobs and then she disappeared for quite some time. She eventually re emerged apparently she was off doing doubles with her friend and some lucky guy. She saw that I was alone so she came over to me. I told her I wanted to take her up on that blow job and she said "Only blow job no sex?" I kinda was just wanting a blow job. I thought the cinema would be a good place for it because I had never done anything in there and the notion of public sex kinda excites me. But she said the cinema was dirty and kinda stinks which after checking it out I kinda agree with her. We made our way back to a private room and got to it. Started with her sucking while I was laying down. She asked if I wanted to finish in her mouth and I said hell yes. She had a slow sensual approach with some ball licking and teasing which I enjoyed. She asked me if I was sure I didn't want sex. For me it's a moral dilemma but I never have vaginal sex with these girls nor do I kiss them, that's my own code that I've stuck too since I've been doing this. For me it's just too personal. So I told her no sex (I assumed this girl not to be the anal type) She continued with a great BJ. I put her on her knees and stood up. Her ass looked so fantastic in the mirror behind her so I asked her if she does anal. She paused for a moment (like she was thinking about it) and said only with not too big of dick. Well, I didn't know where I stood and was afraid to ask because every guy likes to think he has a big dick. To be honest I'm not going into details but let's just say I'm average. Judging by some of the other guys I witnessed in the shower I'm average. She continued on until I told her I wanted to fuck her ass. She paused again and said ok but you go slow (yeah right). Out came the condom and lube, my mind was going crazy because she had a great girl next door look, a perfect little petite body and a great ass. I would never have expected this girl to agree to anal and I was excited. She did have some issues with the condom. Instead of just rolling it down she kind of put her fingers in it and stretched it around my dick? I was kind puzzled by her method and I was afraid I was going to go soft in the meantime but I was so excited I did not. She got on all fours (did not ask me which position) she was facing the mirror and I got behind her. She rubbed some lube on her asshole and reached her hand around to guide me in. I told her I got this (I did not want anything to spoil the view of my cock entering her ass and I had no problems finding her butt hole even with dim lighting) She said yeah, as to say yeah that's it go slow. So I eased in to a very, very tight fit. She let out a loud moan, and I worked it slow for a bit but then I started pounding it. She was very vocal and loud, very loud. Not sure if it was an act to get me to cum quicker or if it was genuine. At one point I asked her to roll over and she said no it's too painful that way (missionary) so I pounded her even harder. I must say the sight of what was going on was fantastic. The expressions on her face in the mirror (when she didn't have it buried in a pillow) , her ass, not to mention the screams and moans coming from this girl. I also had her saying some good stuff like I would say "Where's my cock baby?" "In my ass!" She would scream. It was too much stimulation for me. I had to let it go. I pulled out and told her to get up, I ripped off the condom and she said "yeah baby in my mouth" she got her mouth there just in time and I blew it. Probably a larger load than the first time because she gagged and choked a little. She spit it out and said "WHOOOOO you are strong" not sure if she meant physically or stamina-wise. This lead me to believe her vocals were genuine.

That was all for me the night. I new everything after that would be a let down. So I left.

That's my report. If you are in Frankfurt you should seek out Annabella at Palace FKK. She is great. Like I said real girl next door but a tiger in the sheets. I didn't even mention her tits which were youthful and perfect. And natural.

Couple other girls to mention.

There was a girl that was super model in looks. I'm exactly 6 foot and this girl was taller than me. Some of the longest legs I've ever seen and a natural beautiful face with little makeup. In fact she was so pretty she seemed un approachable. Plus I'm freaked out by girls who are taller than me.

Another girl was a dead ringer for Milla Kunis at least in the low light. Her body was a bit flabby flabby for me though. Just not as tight as I prefer.

All and all another great experience for me. I like to give detail and just thought I would share so everyone knows the talent is alive and well at Palace.

I do have a couple questions though. Just some things I've been wondering.

1. Any other guys freaked out a bit with DFK at these places or is that something that guys generally seek out? For me I can't get past the fact that I'm not the only guy cumming in these girls mouths and they literally go from guy to guy. For me there's no way I'm kissing them. Do you think the girls are bothered by this? It's just always kind of awkward that moment when they go in for the kiss and I have to pull away. But I think they get it.

2. Anybody else find the cafeterias a totally weird and almost surreal experience? I try to stay out of there unless I'm starving. It's too weird for me.

3. Anyone else share my same code of conduct? (BJ only and sometimes anal nothing else) just questioning myself more than anything.

Thanks guys.

Thanks for the great "first" report SofaKingBig. I see Anabella left a good impression on you too. Just FYI to refresh your memory Palace has her pictures on the website. I can't wait to go back to Palace (in a few weeks hopefully).

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;1424826]Thanks for the great "first" report SofaKingBig. I see Anabella left a good impression on you too. Just FYI to refresh your memory Palace has her pictures on the website. I can't wait to go back to Palace (in a few weeks hopefully).[/QUOTE]You are totally right. I did not realize that her photo was on the website. I'll be saving that one for the spank bank. Thanks for letting me know. I actually might make it back to the palace before I return to the US later this week. If I do another report will follow. Did you find my experience with Annabella similar to yours?

SofaKingBig, no problem. Looking forward for your next report. Yes, my experience with Anabella (the way Palace site spelled it) was similar. Though I didn't go for any extras but we had a great connection. As for the cover, I found her and a few other girls using the same technique. I wonder where these girls learn it from. I doesn't bother me but I also find it weird.