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[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2950058]I never said an older dude can't get better women. What I'm saying is the larger the age / looks gap, the more difficult it gets to score hot women and the more emphasis is being put on the providing part, so the more expensive it becomes for you to maintain your relationship / arrangement.[/QUOTE]You have zero evidence of that, could not possibly know what we older dudes know, and really don't know what you're talking about. You're making completely unsupported assumptions, because you have such a wicked case of Dunning Kruger. That's why you think only you know what a '10' is. For example, latinas really like mentoring. I've convinced several to go back to school and supported them mentally, academically, and emotionally. You want GFE, spend some time teaching her to divide fractions, or write macros. Teach her kid to play chess. I volunteered in an adult basic education program in Argentina and I got more ass than a toilet seat. You have much to learn. You don't seem incredibly stupid, but you have the validity of your opinions way, way overrated.
The larger the age / looks gap became, the richer, wiser, and more fluent in Spanish I became. It became [B]less [/B]expensive to maintain any given level of relationship. You have a nasty tendency to assume that old = fat, ugly, out of shape, whatever. At some point, you will need to grow the fuck up and stop talking about 'girls. ' And you'll never have any kind of GFE until and unless you get past Google Translate. I have bachelor's degrees in history with a Latin American concentration and in Spanish with a Latin American concentration. Lots of latinas would rather spend time with someone like me than with someone like you.
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[QUOTE=Medclubber;2950044]Usually the top looking girls don't perform the best, nobody argues that. ... But don't go post nonsense here like girls like that can easily be had for 250 k.[/QUOTE]I like your reply because it probably is reasonable and agreeable. By default 9 and 10 are rare anywhere, so to think that only certain places you can find them or you can't find them in some places is not true because it probably is going to be random and scarce. Not every girl can go from 0 to 300 USD. These girls are likely to start somewhere low. Not all of them are as smart or as knowledgeable as one thinks.
Some of us know what a girl can get because we have the knowledge. That is why we keep these girls we know under the radar. Even if the girl is not our type, most will agree some girls can easily get double of what we paid if they know how to reach those customers and very often they don't when they are just 18 or 19. These girls all will provide BBFS. So in my view, when a girl started to care about condom, then most likely she is already a working girl with some mileage and it does not depends on age either. A working girl mindset and sex is completely different even if they provide the same service and it is unlikely to be 100% effort in Medellin to an average man.
What is scarce for me in Medellin is the girls that will perform close to 100%. An average man can't get that by paying a lot and have sex only one time. An average man can get 100%s GFE service here in the form but to get a GFE feel where she kisses you like she loves you is very unlikely. And if the man can't tell the difference, that is great because he is getting the real thing in his mind. If the sex with 9 and 10 is so superior (the sex can be extremely good even when the girl is a dead fish but you are so into her that the sex becomes so good, an example to add to the context) for the price, then it is reasonable to think the man should go back to the same girl repeatedly, but that is not what we observe here. The action tells us even these men know what it is and not stupid with money so mothing is absolute
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[QUOTE=Coupe66;2949491]So all the chat on here about prices you guys find normal of hundreds of USD per hour is just on another planet for me, about screwing influencers and Instagram models etc. Who gives a crap about that? If they're sexy and you want to screw them is all that matters! I guess many guys who go to Lleras etc can't speak Spanish either.[/QUOTE]It's more about knowledge and experience. I am an example of not speaking Spanish but able to get the more reasonable price. The Lleras pricing has less to do with the average income here because the customers are foreigners. The girls leverage other men against the target.
I have reported this before. This girl eventually agreed to 200 mil for 3 or 4 hours. Initially during a moment of weakness, I offered 400 mil without restriction but she countered with no BJ so I walked. By the time she agreed to my term, I was not free anymore for the next few days. LOL. She asked how much I paid for my date. I told her the truth for the one I was with at that time which is 200 for 4 hours. She agreed to it and the only time I can manage to fit her in was 8 AM in the morning which she also agreed. Haha.
It's like playing poker. I had a strong hand (knowledge and fallback plans) but I did not know it because I did not know what she had. I knew I had a stronger hand because of her mistake. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose but you will be doing ok if you win more than you lose
If you look at the high price ones, they are like tourist trap. A couple of examples among them, the quality of Loutron or La Isla are not getting better but the price going up much more with reduced service than the other non-tourist trap places. Why is that?
Why an experience man would go to tourist trap? One could observe from the conviction of some members here and they must go to these tourist traps to get what they want and pay the tourist trap price because they have to compete with the tourists or others with similar mindset. In a way, relatively speaking, the higher price one pays the weaker hand one has.
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[QUOTE=Huacho;2950153]And you'll never have any kind of GFE until and unless you get past Google Translate. I have bachelor's degrees in history with a Latin American concentration and in Spanish with a Latin American concentration. Lots of latinas would rather spend time with someone like me than with someone like you.[/QUOTE]When I first started learning Portuguese, me and a buddy were on a bus in Rio. I was trying to get the girl that takes the money phone number. She ended up giving her number to my friend instead because she said she did not understand my Portuguese and he was already advanced from taking it at UC Berkeley before his first trip to Brazil. There was no google translate around in those days.
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[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2950091]I just literally posted a review with photo a little while back. And I mentioned it previously, but you didn't bother to read.[/QUOTE]You never posted a photo of a model. You posted average looking girls from Santa Fe or El Centro, and none of them are 9's and 10's. 6. 5 at best.
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[QUOTE=Villainy;2948309]My go to transportation is DiDi.[/QUOTE]You said taxis before. Every truly "well off" guy I know owns a nice vehicle or has a driver, usually the latter.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2948309]So, Paulie if you think there are such great bargains and there aren't any real risks. [/QUOTE]I never said there weren't any real risks.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2948309]I see, what that means is that you live in a poverty area and yet you criticize me for living in a much better environment in the Parque Laureles area of Medellin [/QUOTE]Northeast Florida or "The First Coast" isn't going to become poor no matter how many times you say it is, or how many times you falsely claim that I said it was. That while the notion is ludicrous. LOL.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2948309]Oh let's argue some more about all the meeting requests you sent out. [/QUOTE]This has nothing to do with anything, or the truth that I wasn't trying to meet up with you earlier this year as you falsely claimed. The soonest such request was from the fall of 2022.
But here's the bottom line, your conversations are with yourself, not me, as you're habitually interacting with the content you've made up and attributed to me. When corrected you just double down. This obviously isn't going to change. That makes this all an exercise in futility.
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We've all made that mistake at one time or another. It's punter 101, always get that number. You can delete it later but you may regret it in the future if you don't get it. It's been a lot of years since I last spaced out on getting a girl's number and later regretted it.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2950244]That is normal. There are probably guys out there who would not touch for free girls you find stunning. I like it when guys do not like girls I like because that makes their availability for me better.
Reminds me of around 16 years ago at New Life when I saw in the lineup one of the hottest girls I've ever seen. There was one other dude who was there before me and had to choose first. I was concerned that he might take her and lo and behold he chose some other girl who I found significantly less attractive. The result was I banged one of the hottest girls I've ever banged in my life. Returned the next day and she was gone never to be seen again. One of my life's greatest regrets is not taking her number.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2948606]This is not about what I believe in. It is the statistics, real stuff. If you look it up, you will find out that the average age gap in Bogota is about 3 years, and in Medellin about 4. In the States, it is about 2. 3 years. And the couples where a man is 15-20+ years older than a woman account for only 1%-1. 5%. You, Elvis, and a few older folks living there full time are OUTLIERS. You don't follow the general trend. I go out a lot, but I rarely see a grandpa having dinner with a young cutie, maybe once a month. So what you are saying sounds like a BS to me.[/QUOTE]Twitainy has already said that his bait is to offer "amistad con regalos," so it's already a potential arrangement that he wants to call a "date. " But a repulsive grandpa is just that in any "culture. " Sadly there's nothing physically attractive about the slow death of aging. Many women in poorer countries though will hold their noses and go for "gifts. ".
Frankly I have no problem with guys who want to get the "I'm a sexy grandpa" fantasies going in their heads in hopes of enhancing their fun. The sad part is when they come here trying to convince the audience, then get nasty when some here hit them with reality.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2950232]It's more about knowledge and experience. I am an example of not speaking Spanish but able to get the more reasonable price. The Lleras pricing has less to do with the average income here because the customers are foreigners. The girls leverage other men against the target.
I have reported this before. This girl eventually agreed to 200 mil for 3 or 4 hours. Initially during a moment of weakness, I offered 400 mil without restriction but she countered with no BJ so I walked. By the time she agreed to my term, I was not free anymore for the next few days. LOL. She asked how much I paid for my date. I told her the truth for the one I was with at that time which is 200 for 4 hours. She agreed to it and the only time I can manage to fit her in was 8 AM in the morning which she also agreed. Haha.
It's like playing poker. I had a strong hand (knowledge and fallback plans) but I did not know it because I did not know what she had. I knew I had a stronger hand because of her mistake. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose but you will be doing ok if you win more than you lose
If you look at the high price ones, they are like tourist trap. A couple of examples among them, the quality of Loutron or La Isla are not getting better but the price going up much more with reduced service than the other non-tourist trap places. Why is that?
Why an experience man would go to tourist trap? One could observe from the conviction of some members here and they must go to these tourist traps to get what they want and pay the tourist trap price because they have to compete with the tourists or others with similar mindset. In a way, relatively speaking, the higher price one pays the weaker hand one has.[/QUOTE]This post nailed it.
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[QUOTE=Huacho;2950153]You have zero evidence of that, could not possibly know what we older dudes know, and really don't know what you're talking about. You're making completely unsupported assumptions, because you have such a wicked case of Dunning Kruger. That's why you think only you know what a '10' is.[/QUOTE]I know a few older folks. And I have also met a few older ISG dudes. I can't speak for everyone though, and its not like I talk to hundreds of them, but so far I have only seen one of them dating a model, legit 9.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2950153] You want GFE, spend some time teaching her to divide fractions, or write macros. Teach her kid to play chess.[/QUOTE]No, thanks. I can get GFE without teaching someone's kid. There is plenty of women with no kids out there.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2950153] The larger the age / looks gap became, the richer, wiser, and more fluent in Spanish I became. It became [B]less [/B]expensive to maintain any given level of relationship. You have a nasty tendency to assume that old = fat, ugly, out of shape, whatever. At some point, you will need to grow the fuck up and stop talking about 'girls.[/QUOTE]The dude that I just talked about above, who dates a legit 9, is in his mid 60's. He works out and is in shape. Not bald or anything. Got his teeth done (veneers). He is wealthy and fully supports her. They have a little kid together. But obviously, he is an exception. Ability to speak Spanish has nothing to do with the age. Getting wiser and richer generally yes, but the other side of the coin is that you get physically less attractive and less healthier, even if you work out, it is just inevitable.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2950153] And you'll never have any kind of GFE until and unless you get past Google Translate.[/QUOTE]Never? Wrong! I have had GFE without speaking Spanish at all. Nounce claims to get GFE without speaking Spanish. But I agree that speaking the language helps tremendously anywhere in the world.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2950153] I have bachelor's degrees in history with a Latin American concentration and in Spanish with a Latin American concentration. Lots of latinas would rather spend time with someone like me than with someone like you.[/QUOTE]And how would you know that? Lots of latinas would also prefer to spend time with a fun younger dude, than a nerdy old fart.
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2950096]The Clown Car thing started with SC. I was kicking his ass and he wanted to associate me with you. What he is implying is if you and he went on a double date, his gal would be grabbing his dick with her tongue in his ear, and your better looking chick is doing her nails and on the phone and cannot wait for the date to be over. What he is trying to say is he is smarter than you and getting better value for his money than you. Mr. E accuses you of the same thing.
[/QUOTE]He would be smarter only if his chick was just as good looking, and doing all the things you talked about for less money. But we all know this would never happen, because we fuck different chicks.
It is really easy to impress a 5 from a poor barrio and make her grab your dick in public. Doing the same with a 10 is completely different level of difficulty.
BTW, I never claimed to have a 10 who is in love with me. And I honestly think yours is not 10 either, maybe in her prime she was, but not at her current age with a kid.
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[QUOTE=Villainy;2950054]Because when someone makes a moronic comment that is completely out of touch with reality it deserves derision irrespective to whom it was originally directed.[/QUOTE]On further review it's clear that you did take his remark out of context, which for you is par for the course, while getting all menopausal about a trivial detail. You seem especially cranky since you got dismissed the spelling and grammar police details. Folks this is what aging gracefully isn't.
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[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2950351]It is really easy to impress a 5 from a poor barrio and make her grab your dick in public. Doing the same with a 10 is completely different level of difficulty.[/QUOTE]Make her huh? Do you have any idea what I was trying to say?
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2950351]BTW, I never claimed to have a 10 who is in love with me. And I honestly think yours is not 10 either, maybe in her prime she was, but not at her current age with a kid.[/QUOTE]After I wrote what I did, I asked myself: is he going to get the point or is he once again going to think I am bragging about my woman? Well, I got my answer. SMH.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2950351]He would be smarter only if his chick was just as good looking, and doing all the things you talked about for less money. But we all know this would never happen, because we fuck different chicks.[/QUOTE]Oh no, he looks like a fucking genius now.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2950351]What I'm saying is the larger the age / looks gap, the more difficult it gets to score hot women and the more emphasis is being put on the providing part, so the more expensive it becomes for you to maintain your relationship / arrangement. When you are more or less of the same age, are at the same level in your respective careers and making more or less the same amount of money, it becomes irrelevant who is paying what. As I said earlier, if you lose your income, no game will help you score high quality women at your age, let's be real.[/QUOTE]Looking back on this, I cannot believe how stupid this is and how dumb I was to mention her relatives. When I was delivering pizzas in college decades ago, I was making 4 X as much per month as my gal is. If you make over $100,000 per year, you will make more than the average Colombian women in two years than she will in her whole career. If in a few years, I take social security I will be getting at least 4 X more per month than my gal. And that is not including my savings and pension. So where did you come up with this dumb ideal of older guys losing income or American men and Colombian women having equal income? Where do you think V and Huacho get their money? Selling tacos?
Nounce is right. There is nothing wrong with spending big and enjoying trophy fucks. The problem is you think that is some kind of accomplishment that other men especially older ones cannot do. Or am I wrong?
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[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2950343]Wrong! I have had GFE without speaking Spanish at all. Nounce claims to get GFE without speaking Spanish. But I agree that speaking the language helps tremendously anywhere in the world.[/QUOTE]Yes, and I am talking about novio type of GFE or the civilian type, not the one time transactional pay kind. I make up the lack of Spanish with other strength I have which I think is not possessed by everyone. The benefit probably is that I can reach that point much quicker. Without Spanish and not living here probably will be difficult for an average person.
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[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2950295]You never posted a photo of a model. You posted average looking girls from Santa Fe or El Centro, and none of them are 9's and 10's. 6. 5 at best.[/QUOTE]We should give members like him and GB who posted photos credit. They back it up. At least, you can understand why they said what they said from the photos posted. They just have different taste. They are not wrong and you are not wrong from each's own point of view.