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Great weather! Spirit Airline is up to their usual games. $40 to carry on a bag!
Staying at Prado 61 in Centro my first few nights. [url]www.61prado.com[/url] Nice attitude from the staff. Decent place for the money. $25 a night and the place is full of cute regular girls who I guess are guests as well. Receptionist has a body to die for and speaks basic English. PM me if anyone wants to grab a beer and do some recon work tonight.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1199018]Minimum wage in Colombia is now 560kcop mensual. What social benefits are you talking about. The Colombians I talk to don't have any social benefits or government assistance whatsoever. Its everyman for himself.[/QUOTE]My friend works in a restuarant and makes 1 million COP / months, but he mentioned that the cost is 1, 3 million for the company for ensurances of different kinds. Yes, it's true that unions and the ordinary worker don't have much of social security if being sick or unemployed, in contrast to the Westeuropean countries. So I will conduct a small investigation!
Good or bad? What we do know is that union leaders and human right ativists live dangerously in Colombia.
The economy is flexible and growth is high and has been so for decades, but the poor now demand higher wages for their services as the size of the middleclass and their incomes has grown rapidly. Still the average colombian is a young person and the competition is hard, so that keeps places as La mayorista with it's standard price 30k going. That is $US16. That is maybe 10% for what you pay for an equal medium hooker in the US!
Reminds me of Thailand, the land of the smile. The people are very friendly, but internal conflicts, corruption, and political instability are a big obstacle in the modernization process. Just like in Colombia.
What I found the last time I was there (May) , was that the casa girls were about the same or even slightly better than before, and they were far more friendly. The casa prices have gone up somewhat since I started going, but are nowhere at a level which would start to see a falloff in activity (price inelastic). I would disagree.
Somewhat with the comments on the middle class, what I noticed was an even greater discrepancy than before between the rich and poor, and virtually all the money flowing into MDE was going pretty much to Poblado and Envigado (with some to Laurales) , along with a very large influx of girls figuring they could make a buck with the new money and foreigners there. In fact, the basic cost of living in Medellin seems to have gone up astronomically, and, at the same time, the covetedness of the girls, by seeing these huge new malls, Santa Fe for example, but being unable to afford any of it, makes them gravitate to the only business where they can hope to buy anything, given the basic wage is still only around 650k+ or. Per month. Just my observations, anyone is free to comment. As an accountant, conversations like this are ALMOST a turnon.
[QUOTE=El Bacano;1199342]I think when I go on a Medellin run I'm the KING of the world, when it comes to the women[/QUOTE]Of course you are a King, I'm King, everyone a King King. That's the beauty of Purchasing Power and fluctuations in the local currency vs. The Dollar / Euro. Lately, we've been getting the short end of the stick, but in comparison to one's choices in the USA, as Vinny from Jersey Shore would say to Pauly "Forget 'about it". Only in poorer countries, like Colombia, SE Asian countries, does the foreign currency "ROCK". Even with all that national insecurity, pullin' a dime (top shelf quality to say the least) , from what I consider to be the hottest girls on the planet, is / always will be "PARADISE" when its pennies on the dollar.
Peace
[QUOTE=El Bacano;1199342]If I was attracting beautiful wealthy American women, I would not have feel the need to look for poor South American women, Some Men are a little delusional. I think when I go on a Medellin run I'm the king of the world, when it comes to the women, If you are one of the fortunate Men who attracts the USA ladies good luck with the alimony payments, and I'm sure your ex thanks you for the house and half your income.[/QUOTE]You are not a nice man. You speak the truth but it is not pleasant to hear it.
You are usually such a positive guy, why give the troll any attention?
[QUOTE=Reefski; 1199399]John G.
Runny is a troll. He posted here a while back and spewed his usual crap about never paying and getting laid for free. I've never seen a photo of one of his conquests though so it's probably 40 year old fuglies that he thinks are a 9. 5. He also has a "lot" of money but still flies coach. He has some tennis pro buddy that he tips heavily so he can win and lets him tag along at night so he can hit on local chicas. He'll post a few more baiting messages then slither off back to whatever fantasy land he usually dwells in.
Nixonbd hit it on the head when he wondered why a guy who's been to Colombia 12 times needs to ask such dumbshit questions. It's just a lead in for his self-promotion as the king of the freebies.
Reef.[/QUOTE]
i went yesterday to find out the location and how it is again after a few months off. they have taken over what i would call an old dead trafficantes house. it was never fiished and it was going to be a beautiful place and location. any way. it has 30 foot ceilings. lots of parking. the driveway up tests your 1st gear. and down your breaks. they have nice rooms. they kept the japanese style. they are still working on it. 12 girls. very pretty. 8 of them i would give a 9 for my style. i chose erika. she has worked there for a while. great massage. nice clean rooms. great location. $210. 000.
location is across from the paint ball game on tessorro above the los balsos roundabout. just down a little bit from the speed bump. they built a new wood gate. its a one lane driveway to the top. you cannot see the house from the street. about a half mile higher up the road from the other location. if anyone knows the story of the house. i would love to hear about it.
[quote=youngman44; 1199549]i went yesterday to find out the location and how it is again after a few months off. they have taken over what i would call an old dead trafficantes house. it was never fiished and it was going to be a beautiful place and location. any way. it has 30 foot ceilings. lots of parking. the driveway up tests your 1st gear. and down your breaks. they have nice rooms. they kept the japanese style. they are still working on it. 12 girls. very pretty. 8 of them i would give a 9 for my style. i chose erika. she has worked there for a while. great massage. nice clean rooms. great location. $210. 000.
location is across from the paint ball game on tessorro above the los balsos roundabout. just down a little bit from the speed bump. they built a new wood gate. its a one lane driveway to the top. you cannot see the house from the street. about a half mile higher up the road from the other location. if anyone knows the story of the house. i would love to hear about it.[/quote]do you have an address for new location?
[QUOTE=Pirata2011; 1199368]La mayorista with it's standard price 30k going. That is $US16. That is maybe 10% for what you pay for an equal medium hooker in the US!
Reminds me of Thailand, the land of the smile.[/QUOTE]You can find the same low-quality Mayorista-type of hooker in the USA for $20, and for less than $10 in other countries. And if that type of prostitutes floats your boat then more power to you.
Colombia P4P is nothing like Thailand's. Thailand is so much bigger and better. You're ten times more likely to get a bad session in Medellin than in Pattaya. If ISG members had to choose between Thailand or Colombia the ratio would be like 15 to 1 in favor of Thailand.
[QUOTE=Jaxon; 1199551]You can find the same low-quality Mayorista-type of hooker in the USA for $20, and for less than $10 in other countries. And if that type of prostitutes floats your boat then more power to you.
Colombia P4P is nothing like Thailand's. Thailand is so much bigger and better. You're ten times more likely to get a bad session in Medellin than in Pattaya. If ISG members had to choose between Thailand or Colombia the ratio would be like 15 to 1 in favor of Thailand.[/QUOTE]Comparing Thailand to Medellin is comparing apples to oranges. Both have their plusses and minuses. A lot of guys don't like the Asian features of the girls and the hellish 24 hour flight to Thailand is a no-go for a lot of guys, I can leave for Medellin in the morning from the east coast USA and be up to my eyeballs in fine colombian ass before dinner time, Thailand will take me until well into the following day and when I get there I need a day to recuperate from the flight. Your statement that one is much more likely to get a bad session in Medellin is simply not true if you are an even slightly experienced monger. Any monger worth his salt can weed out the bad apples 95% of the time long before they get to the room. Many guys don't have the luxury of being able to get away for ten days or more, going to Thailand for less than that is not practical but going to Colombia is for most people living in the USA.
Just my 2 cents
[QUOTE=Manizales911;1199567]the hellish 24 hour flight to Thailand is a no-go for a lot of guys[/QUOTE]Only an issue for guys living in North or South America, which is a tiny minority of the planet. I forget the exact number, but they say something like 75% of human population lives within a 5 hour flight of Bangkok. For the vast majority of the planet, Medellin is a hell of a lot more difficult to get to than Bangkok. How many international airlines serve Medellin? Even despite the distances, I'd guess a lot more USA guys choose Thailand over Colombia. For guys in Asia, Middle East and Europe, Colombia is a much longer haul than Thailand.
[quote=youngman44; 1199549]i went yesterday to find out the location and how it is again after a few months off. they have taken over what i would call an old dead trafficantes house. it was never fiished and it was going to be a beautiful place and location. any way. it has 30 foot ceilings. lots of parking. the driveway up tests your 1st gear. and down your breaks. they have nice rooms. they kept the japanese style. they are still working on it. 12 girls. very pretty. 8 of them i would give a 9 for my style. i chose erika. she has worked there for a while. great massage. nice clean rooms. great location. $210. 000.
location is across from the paint ball game on tessorro above the los balsos roundabout. just down a little bit from the speed bump. they built a new wood gate. its a one lane driveway to the top. you cannot see the house from the street. about a half mile higher up the road from the other location. if anyone knows the story of the house. i would love to hear about it.[/quote]you mentioned "great massage" how about the rest of the session? $210 for a full session? 1 hour? it's your money and you can do as you please with it. but damn!
i know you're somewhat of a new member (two posts i believe) , maybe new to the colombia scene but for $210k you can get the same quality girl for the entire night! also you would save on the cab rides, and chances are better quality service for a fraction of that price at the different casas and clubs! it has been said time and time again by more senior members that loutron is a huge rip off! you're paying for their rent and building supplies to finish the house (i have never been to the new house, what's the new address. for future reference jajajjaja).
when i was new to the mede scene i was all about this place but then i did my home work, did some exploring, made some friends and the end results was better service, same hot chicks, and saved a ton of pasoes. i actually hooked up with a girl (expros / semi-pros) at a club that used to work there. guess what? when you got them out of that place and price structure you're looking at $80k-$150k. which is still on the upper end of the market value but still way cheaper than that ragging rip off that is loutron. just my two cents and i'm just trying to help!
I'm on day nine of a 14 day trip.
The networking with other Gringo's here has been outstanding. Two guys I met here have given me very good intel. Girls who I have seen here many times but not taken are now on my to do list after hearing how good they were. One of these fellows is doing three a day, and also scouting out threesome possibiltys with real lesbo action. The other guy is more laid back but has already introduced my Wing and me to a Spinner who my Wing has fallen in love with. At the table he was debating if he should take her. I then told her that my friend likes kiss's and hugs. She then almost jumoed on him with a big kiss and hug. At that point I told him " either you take her right now or I'm going to." He then made his move, and even though I'm happy that he has found a partner for the rest of this trip, it leaves me to not sample this fine dish.
Myself on this trip I have had health problems, and had to limit myself to water instead of beer, and one day I had to not have a girl which was rare for me.
Last night I was back in action, and I did two with the last one being a TLN for 100K. I have had her before, but this night she provided the GFE that I crave. Maybe the night off was a good thing after all.
A lot of Gringos in attendence, and all of them I have met are good guys.
I am going to focus on Lesbo threesomes for the remainder of this adventure.
[QUOTE=Jaxon; 1199551]You can find the same low-quality Mayorista-type of hooker in the USA for $20, and for less than $10 in other countries. And if that type of prostitutes floats your boat then more power to you.
Colombia P4P is nothing like Thailand's. Thailand is so much bigger and better. You're ten times more likely to get a bad session in Medellin than in Pattaya. If ISG members had to choose between Thailand or Colombia the ratio would be like 15 to 1 in favor of Thailand.[/QUOTE]Please inform me of the city in the USA where I can get Mayorista type girls for $20.
Of course your view of Mayorista Girls may be different than mine. I just had a TLN with one that I would pay $100 for in the Good Ole USA.
Thailand may be great, but I prefer the girls of Latin America. The ass's alone swing the deal for me.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1199596]You mentioned "Great massage" how about the rest of the session? $210 for a full session? 1 Hour? It's your money and you can do as you please with it. But DAMN!
I know you're somewhat of a new member (two posts I believe) , maybe new to the Colombia scene but for $210K you can get the SAME quality girl for the entire night! Also you would save on the cab rides, and chances are better quality service for a fraction of that price at the different casas and clubs! It has been said time and time again by more senior members that Loutron is a HUGE rip off! You're paying for their rent and building supplies to finish the house (I have never been to the new house, what's the new address. For future reference jajajjaja).
When I was new to the Mede scene I was ALL about this place but then I did my home work, did some exploring, made some friends and the end results was better service, SAME hot chicks, and saved a ton of pasoes. I actually hooked up with a girl (expros / semi-pros) at a club that used to work there. Guess what? When you got them out of that place and price structure you're looking at $80K-$150K. Which is still on the upper end of the Market Value but still WAY cheaper than that RAGGING RIP OFF that is Loutron. Just my two cents and I'm just trying to help![/QUOTE]Well I have lived here for almost three years now. I own two homes. Had another one but I sold it to some gringo. LOL. I am not on a pension or have to pinch my pennies. I am not looking for the Cheapest bang. No pun intented. For the fuck. So I guess I am stupid. I have dated girls from Loutrons. I like it. Its clean. Quality. And close to where I live. I have a car so taxi fares mean nothing to me. I like all Medellin and Colombia has to offer. I go to other casa. I know local "normal" girls. Have a few friends with rights. All is good. Always hunting as that is what I do. I don't need nor want a girlfriend. YMMV.
The address means nothing as you will never find it by that. But here goes. Calle 16A Sur no 9E-500 tele 44-44204 Cell 313-230-2756