Phnom Penh

It's generally true that the hostess bars in Phnom Penh are all "take-out" establishments. When you find a girl you like, you pay the barfine and take her back to your hotel. However, I was just in PP and actually found at least one bar that has on-site ST rooms -- there may be more in that area.

Specifically on a street parallel to the river between 110 and 118 (one block west from the main river road) there are several hostess bars, and I suspect more than one of them may have ST rooms. The ST room I used was technically an apartment reached by going out of the bar, which is probably how they avoid legal scrutiny. Even though the room was a bit ramshackle and the "AC" was just some fans, I picked a really good one and got one of the best lays of my whole trip.

If you're adventurous, or are too horny to care about the accommodations, it's worth a look.

I stayed 6 days at sun and moon hotel. They require original ID and vaccine card and charge 10 $ Per girl. This hotel probably has the nicest pool, but you can access it if you aren't staying there for 10/ day (sometimes for free because they don't come ask you for the money, all you have to do is walk to the back of the lobby and to the elevator to the top floor). I should've stayed in tao riverside because they don't ask for ID and don't charge per girl. I paid anywhere from 50-100/ night. The hotter the girl the more you pay, also I'd they are 18/19 lowest I saw was 80. Pretty slow not a lot of farang. I had some great girls. I'd say about half of them did not do BJ. 6 girls total this trip. 3 let me have sex no condom, loved stuffing those tiny little things.

Its A bit of a hassle getting through customs because they want a visa (usually takes 3 days, but I got one within 24 h using evisa and require a pcr). To get around I used tuk tuk, they usually charge 3 dollars to get around the district. You can download "pass app" and it's much cheaper. GRAB app was useless for transportation.

I like it better than Thailand (been there twice previously). The reason I like it better than Thailand is because the girls are overall more friendly. I'm a big black guy about 5'11 245 muscular football frame. In Thailand on multiple occasions girls would say "NO" to barfine in bars and gogo. The girls are way more particular in Thailand. I was never refused service by any girls in Cambodia and all of the ones I picked were absolutely mind-blowingly tiny. It was greattt. It's incredibly depressing to be turned down by some tiny Asian girl stunner working in a working girl house. One very annoying this I encountered was talking to a girl only to find out they don't go with customers. I don't understand that at all. The girls would say "you are cute I like you, but I no go with customer". I asked if they have BF or sponsor and they say no. It was always the younger girls that were 18. Despite that I had 2 18 year olds that were fantastic, who did not object to barfine. I can't make heads or tails why some of the young ones went and why the others didn't. Some parts of the culture and customs are very strange. They girls call cousins "sister" even if they aren't sisters.

I talked to a few girls and the stories they share are sad. For some reason every single girl working in the bar is because their mothers is "sick". I think I'm Khmer culture sick has multiple meaning which include health and non-health related things, including poverty but I'm not sure. It's incredibly weird that all the girls I talked to had the same back story. Started working because they are poor and have a sick mother. Not sure how much of it is BS.

Have any of you guys sponsored any of these girls and tried to get them an education or out of the bar? I met a dynamite girl who I would considered sponsoring who looks like a Goddess but I don't know how that works. Are the girls typically loyal or does it vary on an individual basis? Anyone have any experience with this?

[QUOTE=TitanJones;2675810]Have any of you guys sponsored any of these girls and tried to get them an education or out of the bar? I met a dynamite girl who I would considered sponsoring who looks like a Goddess but I don't know how that works. Are the girls typically loyal or does it vary on an individual basis? Anyone have any experience with this?[/QUOTE]I sponsored one bargirl 30+ years ago who was dancing on Soi Cowboy. 19 years old with a 4 year old son. I'd met her over about 3 trips in 18 months. Readily identifiable as an honest, no bullshit type of person. Very "unThai". She only had a 3rd grade education. Her Thai husband had left her shortly after their kid was born. He was almost twice her age. No sick mother or buffalo. Needed to support her kid and parents. (She had two cousins doing the same work.) She jumped at the chance of going for vocational training; she decided to try "hair school". 6 months program. Tuition and a stipend was provided by yours truly. Stipend was administered by a trustworthy Thai friend in BKK. He checked weekly at the school to make sure she was attending and progressing. If not, the stipend / sponsorship would be terminated. She finished and mailed me a fancy invitation to her graduation ceremony in BKK. That was very interesting. Loyal? 200%. She got married to a good Thai guy who had a good job at a Thai uni. He got her a job there and she has been employed at the uni for close to 30 years. LOL Loyal? After her husband died unexpectedly, she resumed our previous relationship. I chat with her from time to time on Facebook. She's a real gem. She's a grandmother you'd like to F+++ (Still trim and very well aged.) She is the only bargirl I've even considered for a fleeting moment to sponsor. Without the help of my Thai buddy in making sure she followed through, I would not have done it. Indeed, I'd generally stay clear of any sponsorship of a bargirl.

SS.

[QUOTE=TitanJones;2675810]I talked to a few girls and the stories they share are sad. For some reason every single girl working in the bar is because their mothers is "sick". I think I'm Khmer culture sick has multiple meaning which include health and non-health related things, including poverty but I'm not sure. It's incredibly weird that all the girls I talked to had the same back story. Started working because they are poor and have a sick mother. Not sure how much of it is BS.

Have any of you guys sponsored any of these girls and tried to get them an education or out of the bar? I met a dynamite girl who I would considered sponsoring who looks like a Goddess but I don't know how that works. Are the girls typically loyal or does it vary on an individual basis? Anyone have any experience with this?[/QUOTE]If this isn't your first trip to Asia you would not ask this question. A less painful way to part with your money would be to burn it.

As for turning a WG into a housewife. Kingdoms have been lost. Don't waste your time contemplating such matters.

Brother. Finally Covid Restrictions are at its lowest and Cambodia seems to be a nice place to start AGAIN.

Quick Question: Usually, the birds in Philippine's run away to the province to celebrate such holidays. Hence trying out a new destination, Phnom Penh.

Worth traveling to the city on Khumer New Year Weekend? Will be clubs be empty or buzzing? Choose another weekend or this one would be more fun?

Thanks for in advance for your help guys! Can't wait to hear from you and plan accordingly!!

[QUOTE=LoveTraveller;2678200]Brother. Finally Covid Restrictions are at its lowest and Cambodia seems to be a nice place to start AGAIN.

Quick Question: Usually, the birds in Philippine's run away to the province to celebrate such holidays. Hence trying out a new destination, Phnom Penh.

Worth traveling to the city on Khumer New Year Weekend? Will be clubs be empty or buzzing? Choose another weekend or this one would be more fun?

Thanks for in advance for your help guys! Can't wait to hear from you and plan accordingly!![/QUOTE]I was there 3/19 to 3/23 to go Siem Reap. The bar at 136 area was pretty dead. Plenty of girls but rarely any customers. They all want 100-200 for long time. I didn't bother checking out KTV. And I can't for the life of me find any happy massage places.

Just a quick report.

I was in PP in early March and as others have mentioned street 136 is full of girls but very few customers. I ended up taking a girl for 40 USD ST. She was actually happy for it to be LT at the same price but I had things to do the next day so needed to be up early. The girl was early 20's, pretty enough although not stunning and happy to kiss, OWO and in fact bareback too if I wanted. Service was pretty good too. I stayed at the TAO Riverside which is nice and convenient and they held the girls ID but didn't need a vaccine cert. They also called me before they handed the ID back to ensure everything was ok.

All in all, PP is a good place to hobby at the moment, albeit limited on things to do during the day.

Norman.

And are there any escort sites to pick from or any way to find online outcall girls or do I have to hunt for them in person and then bring them to my hotel / Airbnb?

Is it worth visiting phnom phen during New year week, April 10-15?

This would be my first time.

Any tips would be appreciated.

Not a fan of getting told no by a working girl and it seems to only happen in asia. Especially Japan and Korea. Good to hear you had a good time.

Sponsoring a girl whose story is depressing is probably not a good idea. But college is much cheaper and cost of living is low. If you believe in giving to something might as well be a girl that made you smile and you could visit anytime you are in Asia. The girl I sponsor meets me in different countries and helping her finish college will change her and her families lives. Try to remember though like the other guy said, she is using the money to have a better life and not wasting it.

[QUOTE=TitanJones;2675810]I stayed 6 days at sun and moon hotel. They require original ID and vaccine card and charge 10 $ Per girl. This hotel probably has the nicest pool, but you can access it if you aren't staying there for 10/ day (sometimes for free because they don't come ask you for the money, all you have to do is walk to the back of the lobby and to the elevator to the top floor). I should've stayed in tao riverside because they don't ask for ID and don't charge per girl. I paid anywhere from 50-100/ night. The hotter the girl the more you pay, also I'd they are 18/19 lowest I saw was 80. Pretty slow not a lot of farang. I had some great girls. I'd say about half of them did not do BJ. 6 girls total this trip. 3 let me have sex no condom, loved stuffing those tiny little things.

Its A bit of a hassle getting through customs because they want a visa (usually takes 3 days, but I got one within 24 h using evisa and require a pcr). To get around I used tuk tuk, they usually charge 3 dollars to get around the district. You can download "pass app" and it's much cheaper. GRAB app was useless for transportation.

I like it better than Thailand (been there twice previously). The reason I like it better than Thailand is because the girls are overall more friendly. I'm a big black guy about 5'11 245 muscular football frame. In Thailand on multiple occasions girls would say "NO" to barfine in bars and gogo. The girls are way more particular in Thailand. I was never refused service by any girls in Cambodia and all of the ones I picked were absolutely mind-blowingly tiny. It was greattt. It's incredibly depressing to be turned down by some tiny Asian girl stunner working in a working girl house. One very annoying this I encountered was talking to a girl only to find out they don't go with customers. I don't understand that at all. The girls would say "you are cute I like you, but I no go with customer". I asked if they have BF or sponsor and they say no. It was always the younger girls that were 18. Despite that I had 2 18 year olds that were fantastic, who did not object to barfine. I can't make heads or tails why some of the young ones went and why the others didn't. Some parts of the culture and customs are very strange. They girls call cousins "sister" even if they aren't sisters.

I talked to a few girls and the stories they share are sad. For some reason every single girl working in the bar is because their mothers is "sick". I think I'm Khmer culture sick has multiple meaning which include health and non-health related things, including poverty but I'm not sure. It's incredibly weird that all the girls I talked to had the same back story. Started working because they are poor and have a sick mother. Not sure how much of it is BS.

Have any of you guys sponsored any of these girls and tried to get them an education or out of the bar? I met a dynamite girl who I would considered sponsoring who looks like a Goddess but I don't know how that works. Are the girls typically loyal or does it vary on an individual basis? Anyone have any experience with this?[/QUOTE]

Is BBFS CIP (creampie finish) easily available in Phnom Penh? I am on the verge of pulling the trigger and going to Cambodia since I am just to reluctant to play Covid games in PI or Pattaya.

For what it is worth. And maybe to bring some value. I went to Jakarta Indo and had the same question. Although I PM'ed a few of you guys. Was very happy that BBFS was the standard.

Also. Seems Cambo might be cheaper. And I am just looking for some open minded ladies who are submissive but Condom sex isn't for me.

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2683243]Not a fan of getting told no by a working girl and it seems to only happen in Asia. Especially Japan and Korea. Good to hear you had a good time.

Sponsoring a girl whose story is depressing is probably not a good idea. But college is much cheaper and the cost of living is low. If you believe in giving to something might as well be a girl that made you smile and you could visit anytime you are in Asia. The girl I sponsor meets me in different countries and helping her finish college will change her and her family's lives. Try to remember though as the other guy said, she is using the money to have a better life and not wasting it.[/QUOTE]Well said. If you really understand where the women are coming from and you have made a real connection, then like in any other relationship you spend time and resources helping to make both your lives work well together. This is always a complicated decision. The more you understand yourself the easier this decision is.

Understand, this is an opportunity to connect with someone who would be impossible to connect with, and enjoy the opportunity while doing the right thing under most usual circumstances! Win, win!

Always make sure you do a serious risk assessment first. Remember your weakness, the crazy girls are the most fun! Find your safe zone and defend it.

There is a little more softness in Cambodian women. I just visited it for the 3rd time and it is still top of my list.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2685611]Is BBFS CIP (creampie finish) easily available in Phnom Penh? I am on the verge of pulling the trigger and going to Cambodia since I am just to reluctant to play Covid games in PI or Pattaya.

For what it is worth. And maybe to bring some value. I went to Jakarta Indo and had the same question. Although I PM'ed a few of you guys. Was very happy that BBFS was the standard.

Also. Seems Cambo might be cheaper. And I am just looking for some open minded ladies who are submissive but Condom sex isn't for me.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I confirm you that BBFS is a standard in Cambodia, especially in PP. Girls never ask you to put a condom! If they ask you, it's because they think you can pay them an extra to do it without.

[QUOTE=Djspk;2675704]I was just in Cambodia, and I stayed at the Sun&Moon and also at the Lux Riverside. The Sun&Moon is way nicer (and very cheap right now), but it is definitely more rigid about their guest policy -- they require ID and a Vax card. Still, that only caused an issue once when I took back a girl who doesn't normally do bar fines (it worked out, I convinced the desk man to let it slide that she didn't have her vax card with). The Lux is older and has fewer amenities, but is more chill about guests. IMO, virtually anything above $30 in the riverside area will be fine.

One thing to note about your return journey is that a PCR test in Cambodia will set you back $130.[/QUOTE]Try the Pasteur Institute it's only $80 there.

[QUOTE=Gilolo;2687082]Hi,

I confirm you that BBFS is a standard in Cambodia, especially in PP. Girls never ask you to put a condom! If they ask you, it's because they think you can pay them an extra to do it without.[/QUOTE]Thank you Gilolo!

Any other words of wisdom? Are these ladies "nicer" and less "professional" than Pattaya? I enjoy long time and want to have the ladies over for the full night. I don't like short time gigs.

Anyway, thanks for your info!