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[quote=farape; 1126875]in my experience with this provider it is to some extent hit and miss. but all in all i have had far more good than bad experiences witn s-hana girls.

just tonight i had a very enjoyable session with "ai". she fully resembled the posted pictures and the data on the web managed my expectations in terms of boobs size. her ass was great, she has a cute face and a good attitude. in terms of the level of service, there are obvious legal limitations as to what is allowed and what not, but as bro herpes pointed out, a little effort can go a long way in terms of what two adults might eventually consentually decide to do.

my advice when using this provider is to thoroughly research the web pictures (after all you might agree that even in terms of the web pictures "hina" would not qualify for the stunner category) , the web data (and run a google translate on the respective page if you cannot guess the japanese) to ensure you get the attributes (e. g. boob size, ass etc) you are looking for and last but certainly not least treat the girls well (offer them a drink, be gentle). this will make the session all the much better. also don't ask for honban, this should far more be something natural in the course of action if you are lucky with your choice.

btw japanese is not a requirement with s-hana, but in order to achieve a gfe like athmospere with a girl engios===p[/quote]i had a bad experience with them also and my japanese is fluent, i was dressed in a suit and extremely polite. she had the mechanical bj routine she wanted to perform and that was it. didn't want me to touch her boobs or hair. sorry but given the amount of choice available in tokyo at that price point, it's one strike and you're out in my book.

Hello, I've asked this question before, but not a lot of successful answer.- Does any one know how its possible to get into a swinger's club (preferably alone, without having to pay some escort girl.)? Preferably outside Roppongi with little gaijins (save for the guys reading this forum.) - is there some other alternative? Like some kind of brothel, where guys see each other having sex with other girls in the same room, and can switch freely (like an All you can f*ck where you pay some hourly fee for example.) I'm sure this kind of place does exist! Otherwise, this is a brand new business that could thrive easily! Thanks for your insights

There are some places called "Happening Bars" or Happening Clubs".

If you search the thread for these you might find some information.

[QUOTE=Herpes;1129491]Does any one know how its possible to get into a swinger's club (preferably alone, without having to pay some escort girl.)?[/QUOTE]"Naturist Club Silk" in Shinjuku ([url]http://www.nc-silk.jp/[/url]) has been recommended before on this board. I haven't been there myself though.

Welcome Sevenless, I do feel your pain and there is no easy answer to this as a large amount of prejudice against foreigners is built into the system and getting service is as much down to luck as good planning. When I arrived in Japan, I couldn't speak a lick of Japanese, even though I look Asian too, but after 3 years I was more or less fluent which increased my chances much more. I think it is best to come clean about being a foreigner and in the meantime, study and practice Japanese as much as possible. I wouldn't worry about being turned down, because if a shop has decided that foreigners are out, then there is nothing you can do about it, Asian looking or not. Furthermore, whilst the shop owner may not have a problem with you, the girl herself may have a problem being with a foreigner. You could live for years in Japan, speak perfect Japanese and still get refused, you just have to get used to it. And they will find out, one way or another.My advice is, if you want a simple solution, just go to Asian Mystique. You pay through the nose, but are guaranteed a girl who will do FS and no hassle. I did this when I first lived in Tokyo. If you are feeling adventurous, do some research on the net for good hotel health places in Shinjuku or Shibuya, make a note of their shop location and just pop in. If the guy behind the desk says no, then so be it. Just move on. Somewhere will eventually offer you a girl. If you are living in Japan, get studying and then you can start calling up Japanese or Korean delivery health places, which increases your options much more.Happy Hunting mate.[QUOTE=SevenLess; 1129172]Hey. New to the board. Was wondering if anyone had any tips for me. I'm Chinese-American so I can pass as Japanese by my looks but I can't speak the language very well (once I open my mouth, people realize I'm a foreigner immediately). I've tried stopping by a few fashion health shops but have been rejected. This is because I've essentially announced to the staff that I'm a foreigner. I figured I could try to fake my way through but I thought once I'm in the room with a woman, the game would be up and I would be found out. And I don't like the idea of having to be kicked out, however gently that would be. I know that I could eventually find a place that would take me but I was wondering if anyone had any tips on getting accepted at places that don't allow foreigners (with the advantage of looking Japanese). And I'm working on my Japanese but as many of you know, it takes time.Thanks in advance! [/QUOTE]

Swingers means 2 for 2. You're girl for his girl.Its just a fantasy to think that you can walk into a club alone and fuck some guy's gf / wife for nothing while he watches because that turns him on.

After a long absence (gf issues) I'm back.

Feeling a little in the mood, wandered over to Takadanobaba for a little esute action.

First went into Tokyo Stand Pie Me (RTFF for the location, basically it's go out Takadanobaba station Waseda Exit, take a left on Waseda-dori, walk for 10 minutes or so until you see a vertical yellow sign with "Higuchi" written in katakana; take a right into the alley before the sign, walk past the stinky ramen shop, and take the next right into the building. Tokyo Stand Pie Me (or whatever they call it these days) is the apartment with the little sign on it, saying in Japanese,"knock if you have business here.")

Unfortunately for me, and anyone else who wandered in after 11:30pm or so, Tokyo Stand Pie Me had a little sign posted on the door, saying "we are closed for the night." This is at like 12pm on a Friday night. Go figure. I was worried that maybe they got busted or something. I knocked anyway, but no answer.

Fortunately for me, I had the number for Purple King esute. Web site.

[url]http://est-pk.com/[/url]

Basically, go out Takadanobaba station from the Waseda Exit. Take a right on Waseda-dori, past the rotary, straight for about 10 minutes. You will pass various karaoke establishments. Look for the Tsutaya on the left side of the street. Across from the Tsutaya there is a pole with a bus schedule on it. Make a right into the building at the pole with the bus schedule, it should be the "star building." Go to the 4th floor, and do not be misled by the sign which says,"Clover" esute. Purple King is keeping it on the down-low. Knock on the door (they keep it locked, I think to slow down the cops in case they get busted.)

The apartment and decor is much nicer than the other esutes I have visited. They had a nice hardwood finish to the walls and the sliding doors to each cubicle. It felt like being in a real massage esute, to the point where I politely asked the papa-san, if full-service was on the menu. He said yes. He was very friendly, and presented several photos of girls, and suggested one whose breasts were big, and whose service he said was excellent.

I chose Sayuri. I would say Looks: 6, Attitude 6, Service 4, Body. 6. She is from Shanghai and has only been working at the establishment a week. She seemed a little lazy. She started off with rubbing her naked body on my back, then flipped me over for a BBJ. She didn't want to get on top, but I insisted, but she quickly grew tired and we switched to mish. I think she came.

Afterwards. We cuddled. The store has a special going on right now, where you get 70 minutes for 8500 yen. This was one of the few times where I got all the time I paid for; it actually got kind of boring cuddling with her.

As a service to my brethren on this site, I confirmed with both Sayuri and the papa-san- gaikokujin are definitely okay at this establishment. Although my experience wasn't earthshaking, it got the job done, and I think this is a perfectly serviceable alternative to Tokyo Stand Pie Me, and a worthy replacement for Paprika (for those of us who remember that place.)

As an aside, if anybody happens to hear of any Korean FS esutes in the West / Southwest Tokyo area, I would be much obliged if you shared the info.

Thanks for the advice Basementcello and Zcorps. Japan can be such a contradiction at times. It can be both one of the most hospitable places I've ever been and at other times quite a zenophobic place.

Many thanks for your report. I wonder if going in the afternoon might find the girls less tired.

I have a couple of questions, if that's ok. Is the 'clover' place on the same floor? I am just wondering how to identify the right door.

I am kanji challenged. Does the 70 min (and other 50+ plans) include 2 pops?

[QUOTE=Ultra Gaijin; 1129925]After a long absence (gf issues) I'm back.

Feeling a little in the mood, wandered over to Takadanobaba for a little esute action.

First went into Tokyo Stand Pie Me (RTFF for the location, basically it's go out Takadanobaba station Waseda Exit, take a left on Waseda-dori, walk for 10 minutes or so until you see a vertical yellow sign with "Higuchi" written in katakana; take a right into the alley before the sign, walk past the stinky ramen shop, and take the next right into the building. Tokyo Stand Pie Me (or whatever they call it these days) is the apartment with the little sign on it, saying in Japanese,"knock if you have business here.")

Unfortunately for me, and anyone else who wandered in after 11:30pm or so, Tokyo Stand Pie Me had a little sign posted on the door, saying "we are closed for the night." This is at like 12pm on a Friday night. Go figure. I was worried that maybe they got busted or something. I knocked anyway, but no answer.

Fortunately for me, I had the number for Purple King esute. Web site.

[url]http://est-pk.com/[/url]

Basically, go out Takadanobaba station from the Waseda Exit. Take a right on Waseda-dori, past the rotary, straight for about 10 minutes. You will pass various karaoke establishments. Look for the Tsutaya on the left side of the street. Across from the Tsutaya there is a pole with a bus schedule on it. Make a right into the building at the pole with the bus schedule, it should be the "star building." Go to the 4th floor, and do not be misled by the sign which says,"Clover" esute. Purple King is keeping it on the down-low. Knock on the door (they keep it locked, I think to slow down the cops in case they get busted.)

The apartment and decor is much nicer than the other esutes I have visited. They had a nice hardwood finish to the walls and the sliding doors to each cubicle. It felt like being in a real massage esute, to the point where I politely asked the papa-san, if full-service was on the menu. He said yes. He was very friendly, and presented several photos of girls, and suggested one whose breasts were big, and whose service he said was excellent.

I chose Sayuri. I would say Looks: 6, Attitude 6, Service 4, Body. 6. She is from Shanghai and has only been working at the establishment a week. She seemed a little lazy. She started off with rubbing her naked body on my back, then flipped me over for a BBJ. She didn't want to get on top, but I insisted, but she quickly grew tired and we switched to mish. I think she came.

Afterwards. We cuddled. The store has a special going on right now, where you get 70 minutes for 8500 yen. This was one of the few times where I got all the time I paid for; it actually got kind of boring cuddling with her.

As a service to my brethren on this site, I confirmed with both Sayuri and the papa-san- gaikokujin are definitely okay at this establishment. Although my experience wasn't earthshaking, it got the job done, and I think this is a perfectly serviceable alternative to Tokyo Stand Pie Me, and a worthy replacement for Paprika (for those of us who remember that place.)

As an aside, if anybody happens to hear of any Korean FS esutes in the West / Southwest Tokyo area, I would be much obliged if you shared the info. [/QUOTE]

Was wandering around kabuchiko when this african guy approach me. Told me I can just take a look and if I don't like, I can leave. He was persistant and I was curious, so I followed him to a high end night club. He quoted me 12K for 2 hours and they will find a girl who speaks english. The price includes all you can drink. You can touch and flirt with the girl and afterwards, the girl can go to your hotel. I said that is too much and after some back and forth, he went down to 5K for 1 hour. I asked him how much extra it would costs to bring the girl to your hotel. He kept insisting it is already included in the price. My survival instincts kicked in. The girls in the lounge were smoking hot. There is no way you can get those girls for 5. 12K. I also read stories about tourists getting their drinks spiked and there were lots of yakuza and shady characters in the club. I decided to pass and the guy kept chasing after me asking how much I want to spend. So did anyone ever try one of these places?

[QUOTE=Backtobasics; 1130328]Many thanks for your report. I wonder if going in the afternoon might find the girls less tired.

I have a couple of questions, if that's ok. Is the 'clover' place on the same floor? I am just wondering how to identify the right door.

I am kanji challenged. Does the 70 min (and other 50+ plans) include 2 pops? [/QUOTE]I think going in the afternoon may well find the girls less tired; it looked like they have about 3-4 girls at any one time, and I had gone after midnight, which may have found the girls worn out from the night's work.

"Clover" is just the sign on the wall opposite the elevators; I assume this place used to do business under the name "Clover". As soon as the elevator opens on the 4th floor, Purple King is the door on the right. It's locked, so just knock on the door.

I didn't try for two pops, but I assume that Purple King is like every other Chinese esute I have been to, and if you pay for more than 45 min. Or so, you can go for two pops. My girl (Sayuri) I believe would have been up for it. As I mentioned in the previous post, Purple King currently has a 70 min. Special for 8500 yen.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Timewaster;1130790]Was wandering around kabuchiko when this african guy approach me. Told me I can just take a look and if I don't like, I can leave. He was persistant and I was curious, so I followed him to a high end night club. He quoted me 12K for 2 hours and they will find a girl who speaks english. The price includes all you can drink. You can touch and flirt with the girl and afterwards, the girl can go to your hotel. I said that is too much and after some back and forth, he went down to 5K for 1 hour. I asked him how much extra it would costs to bring the girl to your hotel. He kept insisting it is already included in the price. My survival instincts kicked in. The girls in the lounge were smoking hot. There is no way you can get those girls for 5. 12K. I also read stories about tourists getting their drinks spiked and there were lots of yakuza and shady characters in the club. I decided to pass and the guy kept chasing after me asking how much I want to spend. So did anyone ever try one of these places?[/QUOTE]Your instincts were 100% correct. First of all once you paid and sat down the girl would join you and of course she wants you to buy her a drink. And don't think the all you can drink covers HER. She will of course order the most expensive shit and drink like a fish, all the while rubbing your leg, whispering softly in your ear. Then asking you to buy her another drink. By the time your hour is up your bill would be in the 40, 000-50, 000yen realm. And that girl would not leave with you, and the nice black man who was so friendly before will personally walk you to the ATM if you don't have the cash to cover.Good move dude, stay away from any and all places like that. Stick with what people recommend here, we have been here for years and know all the tricks.

[QUOTE=Timewaster;1130790]Was wandering around kabuchiko when this african guy approach me. Told me I can just take a look and if I don't like, I can leave. He was persistant and I was curious, so I followed him to a high end night club. He quoted me 12K for 2 hours and they will find a girl who speaks english. The price includes all you can drink. You can touch and flirt with the girl and afterwards, the girl can go to your hotel. I said that is too much and after some back and forth, he went down to 5K for 1 hour. I asked him how much extra it would costs to bring the girl to your hotel. He kept insisting it is already included in the price. My survival instincts kicked in. The girls in the lounge were smoking hot. There is no way you can get those girls for 5. 12K. I also read stories about tourists getting their drinks spiked and there were lots of yakuza and shady characters in the club. I decided to pass and the guy kept chasing after me asking how much I want to spend. So did anyone ever try one of these places?[/QUOTE]Well done. You are after all not such a "timewaster"! There are so many other "safe" optiobns in Tokyo, that going with those touts, as so often mentionmned here, would be criminal. In Kabuchiko, I think the only places worth mentionning (for Gaijins) are: Hinomaru, for BBBJs, DX and TS music, (strip theaters, just for your eyes) and Asian Relax for massage and HJs.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1130930]Well done. You are after all not such a "timewaster"! There are so many other "safe" optiobns in Tokyo, that going with those touts, as so often mentionmned here, would be criminal. In Kabuchiko, I think the only places worth mentionning (for Gaijins) are: Hinomaru, for BBBJs, DX and TS music, (strip theaters, just for your eyes) and Asian Relax for massage and HJs.[/QUOTE]Well done. Never trust those touts, they're all scammers. If you're in Kabukicho, New Hot Point is also worth the price.

Go into one of the information shops to find a hostess bar. An honest one will charge 1000 per drink for the girls and the same to keep the girl for the whole hour. I always decline the shimei fee and just let the next girl come over. However I don't go looking for takeout service. I just want to booze it up and practice Japanese conversation.I agree that you should stay away from the Nigerian touts.The old men touts out during the day will take you to crummy places, but you won't get ripped off.You do need to be able to say no to buying drinks, extending your time, or paying more for FS.