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depends on what you mean by close

The closest is probably Babylon in elsdorf, which looks to be about 35 KM away. The way to Wildenrath/Goldentime and Ying Yang in roermond doesn't look all that far either, between 40 and 60 KM. It looks like you take the B57 to Alsdorf and then you get on the B221 and keep following it for about 30 KM and then you are in Wildenrath. 15 KM further and it is Goldentime.

If you turn off in Wassenburg and head to the dutch border it is about another 15km to Ying Yang.

So there are quite a few clubs close to Aachen, assuming you have a car.

Toki, don't waste your money on Babylon, go to PHG or Goldentime instead. BABYLON IS A DUMP. There is also FKK Samya, but it is in Koln or Cologne(in English). I think there is a club with Asian women only in Duisburg called Asia Sexhaus, might want to try that.

Yin Yang is in the Netherlands, and has a Dutch style price structure, its far more expensive than PHG and the girls there are paranoid, like typical Dutch girls, so don't expect BBBJs.

CBGB,

I read in the Netherlands section that Yin Yang has its price structured similarly to Germany with BBBJ included. Badda Bing however is as you have described. I hope to confirm this in the fall on my way from Munich to Amsterdam. Have you tried either one?

CBGB: What do you mean by Ying Yang having Dutch price structure? Based on my information, it has a 50e entrance fee and the price structure of the girls is the same as PHG.

You say the girls are paranoid there. What do you mean? You write as you have been to the place. Have you?

Chivaz

Chivaz,

CBGB is working on old info. Ying Yang has been around forever, but has only switched to FKK price structure and service levels 2 months ago. When I was there about half the girls were from German clubs.

So price structure is the same as german FKK's, but I would still say Wildenrath or Goldentime are better.

When I speak about "paranoia" on the part of Dutch sex workers, I mean that they avoid certain things, almost no lady I met in the Netherlands does bbbj or cim, there are many who won't kiss on the mouth, and some are even nervous about daty. A friend of mine has visited Yin Yang and what he told me was that the club was expensive relative to German clubs, and the service he described was "clinical". I used to go to the Netherlands but stopped since visiting German FKK clubs, for the fact that they are cheaper and traveling in Germany is much cheaper than Amsterdam and the rest of Holland. The women in Germany aren't as paranoid as those in Amsterdam. To illustrate what I am talking about, I went to a prive in Amsterdam, and had a session with a Dutch girl, after the session, she was lying down, I got on my knees, pulled my condom off, and some cum spilled on to her tits, she jumped and started shreiking like a banshee, and ran for a bottle of rubbing alcohol, she screamed at me for not being more careful. In Germany, I have busted my nuts on many womens tits, none of them made a big deal out of it. In fact, many girls me the option of shooting my load in their mouths, this is a big no no in Holland, no lady in the Netherlands in my experience does this. On a side note, I was talking with my coworkers about death, and how eventually all of us are going to wind up dead. For my demise, I saw a Japanese anime called Golgo-13, believe it or not there was a scene where a guy was in an FKK in Germany, in Berlin, he was surrounded by thirty naked women, and they were all over him. He eventually in the scene got shot by the hitman, Golgo 13, but from that I said when its my turn to go, I'm going to take $30,000 and rent a whole fucking FKK club for a day, and I am going to fuck until I drop dead.

CBGB,

Does this Golgo thing really take place in an FKK in Berlin? That would have to be La Folie.

Ying Yang is now 100% a FKK like the ones in Germany. Same price, same general service levels. I was there!

I can't wait. Hopefully the openmindedness and affordability of FKK's will soon find itself influencing the brothels of Belgium, Switzerland, Austria and, God willing, the lovely Scandinavian countries as well. Sometimes I think the FKK's are the only thing keeping the entire airline industry from collapsing! I can't definitely vouch for the fact that there have been many a trans-Atlantic flight from the States simply to explore Germany's secret wonder.

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the Dutch, who have de-criminalized both drugs and prostitution would still be so safety-conscious and almost misinformed when it comes to getting a little semen on your breasts?

No, Wry its the ultrapowerful US media, Hollywood and its other tentacle outlets, that indoctrinate Americans and the world, that the typical American woman is Angelina Jolie. I have ran into a lot of German customers in FKKs who have never visited the States, who think that most American women are on the level of Jolie. They'll be in a for a unpleasant surprise. As far as translatlantic flights I doubt too many people from the States go to Germany for FKKs, the last few times I flew there almost all the passengers with me were Europeans returning home from their vacation in the US, its still pretty much unknown to most Americans, except to those of us on this message board.

The worst news I have heard in a long time, but from very reliable sources:

It looks like there are going to be way too many clubs opening in the Golden Triangle within the next 6 months.

The Goldentime people are opening another club in Mönchengladbach.

The Dolce Vita people have bought a large villa about 2KM down the street from Goldentime, which they will be turning in to an FKK too. Supposedly the villa is about double the size of Goldentime.

That means witht he addition of Ying Yang just across the dutch border there will soon be 6 major clubs within a totaldistance of 40KM in an area west of Düsseldorf, where the world did fine up till a year ago with two clubs.

Some might say that competition will improve the world for us. They are full of crap!

This will just spread the decent girls across more clubs, and the men will spread across more clubs and the atmosphere and the mood of the girls will majorly decline.

There will not be new women coming into the game. They have trouble finding decent new girls to get into the job as it is. I doubt they will get that many new custiomers who were not happy qith the choices available.

If the prices fall, then the service will fall as well as the quality of girl doing this job.

I wish the people would stop building all the clubs in the same region.

There are other areas like around Aachen where a club would make sense.

Stop screwing up the area!

Just in case any of the FKK entrepenuers are reading this : This is what you need to build, not just an FKK club but a complete FKK "resort". A place where a guy could go and stay for a week or a few days at a time. A Theme park for single men if you like, called Sex World. Obviously anyone could make daily visits also.

My dream FKk would be a mix between a good hotel, FKK club and Big Sister in Prague.

So what these guys need to do is buy/build a 100 room hotel , and keep 50 rooms for regular hotel use, then convert 25 rooms for sex use, and the other 25 for internet sex similar to Big sister in Prague where you can fuck for free.
There should be at least 100 women present everynight.

It should also have a regular sports bar to catch all the football/grand prix etc, this bar would also suit as a place to get a break from the sex if a guy was spending several days there,also drinks should be at regular prices. And a small regular cinema would nice to catch a few movies, after your fifth cum of the day, the latest Tom Cruise flick might be a nice change for a few hours. Also an Internet cafe for instant report posting. Maybe a small shop with English/american papers aswell.

Also It should have indoor and outdoor pools and whirlpools,steam, sauna etc. In the summer there could also be an outdoor bar and barbecue, aswell as big swings in the garden to fuck on! On the food side of things, a Chinese restaurant should be included as well as the regular Buffet.

There would be a huge surge in Foreign visitors if they could have it all under one roof. Also the place should be 10 minutes from an Airport.

Common someone please create my dream!!!!!!

Here are my two cents into this issue:

Take almost any major city, and you will find the tourist sex thing overpriced underqulified, rip offs and just plain bad stuff. The FKKs are not so much a tourist thing yet. It is not known to that many outside of Germany. That means the girls have to some extend rely on repeat customers and reputation. This equals quality service in most cases.

Same goes with f.ex. the Spanish bar scene. Within the well travelled path of the big cities, it is crap. Go 20-25 km outside the city, and you will find some pretty good clubs that cater to locals. Tourists of course find their way to those clubs, but then it is on a different agenda, not the spur of the moment when you'r pissed drunk and decide to get some piece of ass.

Ask almost anyone, and they know of the Amsterdam or Prague scene. I bet that under 2% of them have ever heard of FKK. Excellent.

I don't want to have the FKKs more commercialised and too known outside Germany. It will ruin them. Yeah, I am selfish so what.

I agree with you Peter on the number of clubs. I remember when World first opened and then Atlantis reopened. It was damn difficult to keep track on who was where and the overall quality suffered for a while. If the clubs become too many, we will probably start seeing them trying too lure more tourists in = more single time visits, drunk assholes etc. It will fuck things up.

Chivaz

Chivaz,

Why do you bother posting on this international forum then?, why not just post on a German forum in the German language and then you would certainly minimize the numbers of potential foreign visitors.

F :)

Hi Fred,

First of all I do not speak or write German very well. Yes, I am a tourist myself, although regularly in Germany for various of reasons.

Don't get me wrong here. My point is this: I support the exchange of information as much as possible for the serious punter as well as the occasional pleasure seeker. The problem however is when places such as Amsterdam etc. become tourist traps. I could lay out the economics of tourist traps as it is a well reasearched and documented field of study (would actually be fun to apply to P2P). It will result in overpriced items with bad service in most cases.

For those who go through the small trouble of studying where the good stuff is, great. Let the rest wander drunk in Amsterdam RLD or Prague Sex park. No need to drag them in while business is doing ok. It may start to happen if there will be too many clubs.

Don't want to sound to selfish, but then again, maybe I am ;-)

Chivaz

Fred,

Your Idea makes no financial sense.

The legality of clubs, and the way they still work well is based on them making money only from the entrance fees of the men and women and not getting involved in the transactions between them in the clubs. That means all they earn is the entrance fee.

Look at the guys on this and other boards, they are cheap. We all are. Are you going to pay 150 dollars a day for entrance plus a room? That would be on the low side to run the sort of hotel you are thinking of. will the customers pay extra for the movies and food and the like, or will they cheap out and expect it to all be provided by the club.

If you want to do that then you have to do it super exclusive on a secluded tropical island and get the $1,000+ a day set, and do a full on luixury all inclusive resort with 25 of the absolute top ladies you can find.