Pattaya Reports

I agree with OTH, that beauty is very individual. I am also somebody who like to observe and to reflect about myself and my observations. Obviously it's the girls who choose the men. If I bar girl isn't interested than it will be difficult to get her, or have a good time with her. I often saw western guys with not very pretty Thai girls, but the guys seems to be happy. Maybe because they good first time any attention. For that they loved her thai girl. But, objectivly the more pretty girls are not typical thai style.
In general the majority of men like girls with small waists, broader hips, long legs, round butts and tits. Also, narrow noses and not flat faces are pretty. Typical Thai girls, or better to say Isaan girls have the opposit characteristics. So, I understand why somebody is behind Russian girls. The advantage of Thailand for the most guys who are behind Russian girls, is that they don't need to have a Visa, like they would need for a journey to Russia. Also, the costs for accomodations, etc are in Thailand much lower.
Well, I have to admit that I would prefer, at least by look Russian girls, but since the are very expensive and as far as many say not good performer, I use to find a pretty thai girl.
Though, when I am in Dubai, than I prefer CIS girls, since they are usually more pretty than Asia girls and better performer than Ethiopian or Eritrean girls, Imho.

[QUOTE=Daddy07]OK, OK, as long as you're not including me my fantasy bubble remains intact. :)[/QUOTE]

Well, we all have our own bubbles. Although, I will say that mine was burst last week when I was in Pattaya. I really think I spend too much time around demur, young things. So, watching th antics of the girls in the bars, despite having seen them ad nauseum in the past was a bit of a jolt. I have to admit that I've become a bit of an old granny, or something because as I watched the naked lesbian show in one bar, all I could think of was, "I wonder what your parents would think." I'm not sure, but I was probably the only guy in the bar thinking that. ;)

You asked me last week if I got laid. Well, I did try to take one for the team, for old time's sake. I bar-fined a girl, who then of course was hungry (aren't they always?). I knew I was in trouble when I actually felt I was walking the "walk of shame" on Walking Street, of all places - a street that, afterall is purpose-buit for this. The snack, which turned into a meal (albeit, at least not lobster or something expensive) gave me time to think. I couldn't go through with it. So, after she finished scoffing down the last of her steak moo, I gave her a grand, sent her home (with a puzzled look on her face) and went back to my hotel to sleep. She was the best that I had seen, but still wasn't up to my standards. So, why bother?

It was at that point, I realized that the last vestiges of my mongorhood had all but evaporated.

[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]...It was at that point, I realized that the last vestiges of my mongorhood had all but evaporated.[/QUOTE]
Naww ... I'll tell you what it really is: OTH is in love and can hear the wedding bells pealing softly in the background of his troubled mind.

After the wedding -- one or two years maybe -- the mongering instincts will be rekindled, to burn even hotter than before, and the best of Pattaya will start looking plenty good to him again. :D

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Naww ... I'll tell you what it really is: OTH is in love and can hear the wedding bells pealing softly in the background of his troubled mind.

After the wedding -- one or two years maybe -- the mongering instincts will be rekindled, to burn even hotter than before, and the best of Pattaya will start looking plenty good to him again. :D[/QUOTE]

Funny. :D

I didn't say I wasn't shagging other women. I just can't do the P4P monger thing, anymore. I just have to content myself with more infrequent sessions with the harder-to-get types, pictures of whom I occasionally post in the Photo Gallery.

[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]It was at that point, I realized that the last vestiges of my mongorhood had all but evaporated.[/QUOTE]
I can really relate to this. The whole P4P just leaves me cold these days. Enough is enough. I bought my first fuck at the original Thermae Bar on Sukhumvit in 1972. It was $US5 all night and we smoked dope and sung songs and screwed our brains out from go to whoa. I still remember her name -- Dang.

I've drunk deep at the well ever since on my regular trips to Thailand over the ensuring 36 years, and the 20 odd years I've been in Bali.

But now the whole scene just leaves me cold, here in Bali and in Thailand.

I'm no longer in such a state of denial that I can believe the "I luf you's" and the sounds of wild sexual excitement from a girl I met all of 10 minutes before.

Part of this is that I finally found someone who I love to bits and who genuinely loves me too.

The fact that she is Balinese, tall, slim, fresh, drop-dead gorgeous, a post-graduate student, not the slightest bit interested in the heft of my wallet, and all of 26 years old (to my wrinkled 58) is probably part of the reason.

And I'm only the second man who she's ever been to bed with.

I've tasted the best sex of my life with her. Why would I settle for second best?

But never say never... so I agree with OTH's "all but evaporated."

All but.

[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]



It was at that point, I realized that the last vestiges of my mongorhood had all but evaporated.[/QUOTE]
How many years did it take to get to this point?

[QUOTE=Amjeck]How many years did it take to get to this point?[/QUOTE]

Not so sure but I can tell you that after 4 years here, I am already getting very tired of the Bar/FL scene. I still go to massages but ever since I realised that regular Thai girls (read non P4P) were as good in the sac as your garden variety BG, I stick to non P4P as much as possible.

I find this very amusing because not so long ago (a year?) I was convinced that p4p was the only way to go. I guess I smartened up. LOL.

[quote=dg69]i agree with oth, that beauty is very individual.[/quote]

actually it isn't, is precisely the point - it is socially determined. thai guys have a socialized social climbing/[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] fantasy, while farang guys have a porno movie fantasy. it is all cultural. individualism is probably the most overblown concept in human history.

[quote=old thai hand]i just can't do the p4p monger thing, anymore[/quote]

[quote=nicfrenchy]...i stick to non p4p as much as possible..[/quote]

you guys, i just don't get it. the older i get, the lazier i get about getting laid (and everything else), and p4p is much easier than the regular girls. heck, i can hardly stand even the more difficult or uncooperative type of p4p anymore, which leaves only real pros in pattaya and maybe sukhumvitt to get the job done - particularly old tried and true regulars i know will perform and give no touble.

for example - and this is only one example - one would have to learn thai to even begin to pursue these 'non-prostitutes'. my goodness, getting laid is nice, but it certainly isn't worth that much trouble.

[QUOTE=Opebo]...Individualism is probably the most overblown concept in human history.[/QUOTE]
Never-the-less, I consider it the core of my conscious existence and wouldn’t care to live without it.

[QUOTE=Opebo]You guys, I just don't get it. The older I get, the lazier I get about getting laid (and everything else), and P4P is much easier than the regular girls...[/QUOTE]
OTH has exhausted the p4p scene. He’s found a beautiful young lady who meets all his standards. He’s fallen in love with her. It’s no surprise then that no other women seem to measure up to her. She’s better than p4p in his mind. He’s willing to put up with her needs and demands, and admits that she’ll cost him just as much or more than p4p. It’s what is right for him.

Nic is a young guy with lots of money and energy. He sees non-p4p girls as a challenge and enjoys wooing them from Camfrog to meeting to bedroom. He’s happy to go out on dates with them for hours, sometime even days at a time; taking them for dinner at expensive restaurants, drinks at trendy clubs, involving late night dancing and partying. His girls are more desirable than p4p because they don’t want payment for the sex. He likes that part of it, but admits that these girls also cost him as much or more than p4p. It’s what is right for him.

Mick appears to enjoy the benefits of both – the girlfriend and the p4p. There’s an awful lot on his plate. He’s walking a thin line. But it’s right for him.

And then there are us older, wiser men who have done all that described, and now like nothing better than to be alone, except for an hour or 2 of hot sex exactly when and how we want it. We don’t have to put up with family, friends, emotional problems, and constant personal demands. We can avoid wasting our time, energy, and money on mindless courtship rituals, dancing, and partying – not to mention jealousy, paranoia, and sheer boredom. When we want to fuck, we fuck, and then we send the lovely lass on her merry way, so we can focus our attention on other important matters. It’s what is right for us.

I think we can all agree that Thailand is the best place in the world to do all of the above.

[QUOTE=Opebo]
For example - and this is only one example - one would have to learn Thai to even begin to pursue these 'non-prostitutes'. My goodness, getting laid is nice, but it certainly isn't worth THAT much trouble.[/QUOTE]

Gawd you're stupid! Loads of non-P4P TGs speak English. For example, I currently have something in the neighborhood of 120 female uni students, all of whom are fluent or near fluent in English.

I actually find the whole P4P scene more of an effort than non-P4P, not to mention exceedingly tiresome.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]How many years did it take to get to this point?[/QUOTE]

exactly 2 years. Even during that time, I was mixing it up between P4P and non-P4P and finally found it more interesting and rewarding to shag the less accessible type of TG.

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Never-the-less, I consider it the core of my conscious existence and wouldn’t care to live without it.


OTH has exhausted the p4p scene. He’s found a beautiful young lady who meets all his standards. He’s fallen in love with her. It’s no surprise then that no other women seem to measure up to her. She’s better than p4p in his mind. He’s willing to put up with her needs and demands, and admits that she’ll cost him just as much or more than p4p. It’s what is right for him.

Nic is a young guy with lots of money and energy. He sees non-p4p girls as a challenge and enjoys wooing them from Camfrog to meeting to bedroom. He’s happy to go out on dates with them for hours, sometime even days at a time; taking them for dinner at expensive restaurants, drinks at trendy clubs, involving late night dancing and partying. His girls are more desirable than p4p because they don’t want payment for the sex. He likes that part of it, but admits that these girls also cost him as much or more than p4p. It’s what is right for him.

Mick appears to enjoy the benefits of both – the girlfriend and the p4p. There’s an awful lot on his plate. He’s walking a thin line. But it’s right for him.

And then there are us older, wiser men who have done all that described, and now like nothing better than to be alone, except for an hour or 2 of hot sex exactly when and how we want it. We don’t have to put up with family, friends, emotional problems, and constant personal demands. We can avoid wasting our time, energy, and money on mindless courtship rituals, dancing, and partying – not to mention jealousy, paranoia, and sheer boredom. When we want to fuck, we fuck, and then we send the lovely lass on her merry way, so we can focus our attention on other important matters. It’s what is right for us.

I think we can all agree that Thailand is the best place in the world to do all of the above.[/QUOTE]

Good post. BTW, I never liked the chase that much. But, still I do like a bit of a challenge. Just because I have found a significant other, doesn't mean I won't keep a gig or 3 on the side. The GF was away for 5 days last weekend and therefore, I had a former student pop round for dinner and an all-nighter. The good thing about my GF is that, unlike a lot of TGs, she's not clingy and likes to do her own thing, affording me considerable free time to do whatever I want.

My all-time hero on here was always the long-gone and missed Coma Boy. He did it all, but tended to favor girls he'd meet randomly walking around in Siam Square, at a coffee shop, at a club, coming out of office buildings etc. The guy had (and I'm sure still has) no fear. He consistently pulled and posted pics of the best looking girls anywhere in Thailand. The board's never been the same since he left.

[quote=opebo]actually it isn't, is precisely the point - it is socially determined. thai guys have a socialized social climbing/[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] fantasy, while farang guys have a porno movie fantasy. it is all cultural. individualism is probably the most overblown concept in human history.[/quote]

not to all of us. some people are easy manipulable, others not. but, one thing is in all cultures the same and that is the ideal ratio between hips and waist (0,7). so, if talking about beauty than it's not a question of cultural background.

[QUOTE=Daddy07]

And then there are us older, wiser men who have done all that described, and now like nothing better than to be alone, except for an hour or 2 of hot sex exactly when and how we want it. [/QUOTE]
Right there with you, but I'm not older. Wiser? Maybe.

[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]My all-time hero on here was always the long-gone and missed Coma Boy. He did it all, but tended to favor girls he'd meet randomly walking around in Siam Square, at a coffee shop, at a club, coming out of office buildings etc. The guy had (and I'm sure still has) no fear. He consistently pulled and posted pics of the best looking girls anywhere in Thailand. The board's never been the same since he left.[/QUOTE]
I might be mistaken OTH, it has been over 2 years since Coma disappeared, however, IIRC, all of his dalliances were with P4P, not girls coming out of buildings, or sitting in coffee shops. And how could you say the girls he pulled were the best looking anywhere in Thailand. All he ever showed were "gyno" shots.

Here are a few of Coma's girls.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=454804&postcount=801[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=454802&postcount=800[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=454801&postcount=799[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=454807&postcount=802[/url]


This one is 100% P4P
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39277[/url]

And Coma Boy wrote this
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]I like uncovered face photos, I just don't post them myself...................... I live here so can't post faces, even if I wanted to.
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