South China - Guangzhou

Hi!

I am living in GZ since a few years and am looking for where to find the Russian or Ukrainian (or other caucasian) gals in GZ. I know that there are many of them but I still don't know HOW and WHERE to find them. Anybody who can please tell me?

I met a gal from Vladivostok last year after calling a number on the business cards handled out in the city and she was very tender and nice. However, after this, they always says "yes she is russian" but actually they turn out to be colombians when they arrive.

For you looking for Chinese ladies around Garden Hotel, I can recommend CELLAR nightclub which is just a few blocks down the road. They are not always very aggressive in approaching you so you may show your interest. THere are sometimes russian ladies at CELLAR as well but they don't appear to be WG - since I am decent looking, generous and showing interest. For you who want a more fast track, I suggest TANG which is located opposite CELLAR. Most gals in this latter place are colombians, black but also chinese. Prices are normally 2000 for a hole night.

If you don't want to go out, you can use the business card companies. Normally they are reasonable good, but they don't always talk English. One hour/pop is around 300 RMB and all night 7-800 RMB - for chinese gals.

If you are living in GZ and a gentleman and want someone to go hunting with, please feel welcome to drop me a message.

[QUOTE=Sir Peter]For you looking for Chinese ladies around Garden Hotel, I can recommend CELLAR nightclub which is just a few blocks down the road. They are not always very aggressive in approaching you so you may show your interest. [/QUOTE]

I have been to CELLAR a few times and saw quite a few younger girls then those typically seen in Tang. I thought they might seat with you for a fee but not available for taking out? I did occationally see some older WG sitting on the outside counter and those were certainly similar deal as in Tang.

So how does it work in CELLAR? I know they have exorbitant mininum for sitting in one of those nice both after 10pm on weekends and I would assume those young and pretty things were for those people?

How about Paddy Field? Similar to Tang in how it works?

As for Russian girls, I had done one a few years back, maybe 2005, picked her up in front of 6th Ave Cafe. But have not seen them in the past few years.


Fillmore

Just returned from a 1 week trip to Macau. Spent the first 1 night in Guangzhou. If you want a great hotel that is close to the airport in Guangzhou that has a Sauna with full service or take out to your room then I storngly recommend the HJ Grand Hotel. It is located on Yingbin Road (Northeast corner of Yingbin Rd. and Qinglian Rd) HuaDu District, Guangzhou. This district seems to be not affected by any trade show events that happen in Guangzhou. So the saunas operate as usual. You can either come in and use their facility/room or pick a from the line up and they mamasan will bring her to your room in the hotel. Quick point of ref. (If you have any friends in Guangzhou and they are locals, have them make you a reservation,it is half the price. Our room at this 5 star hotel was only $65USD. Great rooms but the beds were kind of hard.

The sauna is located in the basement floor. Usual set up with. Was greeted by the staff, they quickly called one of the English speaking managers. her name was Amy. Ask for her, she is very accomodating. Explained the menu and prices. Led us all into one room and called in 5 girls. She said that we are not happy with selection, she will call the next 5. After about 4 lineups, we called back 5 that she wrote down the numbers. My associates selected theirs and I choose one, name Coco.

Agreed with mamasan that she would bring her up in 30 minutes. It was the same price to bring her up to my room. I just liked my room set up much better. Because of the Canton fair, the prices were jacked. It was 800 rmb for 90 minutes. Expensive for China but we didn’t care since we were all tired and didn’t need to go anywhere else. The mamasan and the girl show up in about 40 minutes and a conversation starts between the two. She assured me that the girl understood everything and will please me with everything.

She leads me into the shower and washes me very thoroughly. On the bed, performs a very nice long BBBJ. After about 10 minutes, I slip on a condom and we proceed. Did not complain or have any attitude. Did about 5 different positions and was very enthusiastic, smiling the whole time. Sat her up on the bed and got my boy right in front of her face. Took of the cover and unloaded half in the mouth and half on her face. She smiled the whole time. We rested for about 10 minutes and motioned that it was ok for her to go.

5 day Macau report will be posted on the Macau forum.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]I have been to CELLAR a few times and saw quite a few younger girls then those typically seen in Tang. I thought they might seat with you for a fee but not available for taking out? I did occationally see some older WG sitting on the outside counter and those were certainly similar deal as in Tang.

So how does it work in CELLAR? I know they have exorbitant mininum for sitting in one of those nice both after 10pm on weekends and I would assume those young and pretty things were for those people?

How about Paddy Field? Similar to Tang in how it works?

As for Russian girls, I had done one a few years back, maybe 2005, picked her up in front of 6th Ave Cafe. But have not seen them in the past few years.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]I Have been to cellar, the girls i met im sure where all freelance? quotes where silly high around 800rmb, tang is similar you will get high quotes, to be honest most of the girls i have met around the garden hotel areas price wise where no more than 400, and generally they simply said pay us what you want.

[QUOTE=Corpo]......... Did about 5 different positions and was very enthusiastic, smiling the whole time. Sat her up on the bed and got my boy right in front of her face. Took of the cover and unloaded half in the mouth and half on her face. She smiled the whole time. We rested ........[/QUOTE]

.........Smiling the whole time.... she smiled the whole time......

Don't know man.... don't know how I'd react ......to a gal smiling and smiling and smiling whilst I'm doing her!!

SEAJ

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe].........Smiling the whole time.... she smiled the whole time......

Don't know man.... don't know how I'd react ......to a gal smiling and smiling and smiling whilst I'm doing her!!

SEAJ[/QUOTE]I guess it's better than crying. You ever get that?

I am in Yutong Hotel for two days. Wonder if there are any action near by?

Also, got a business card on the street. Is it safe to call?

Have search the forum but it doesn't seem that anyone has gotten stuck in this hotel before. ;) There are night club/KTV on the 5F but I am not into that.

Thanks a lot and will report back on any lead.

I will have the opportunity to visit Guangzhou before I head to Chang Ping in Dongguan for my first time visit.

A friend booked me into the [URL="http://www.goldenbridgehotel.com/english/index.htm"]Golden Bridge[/URL] when I first arrive but can change the next day. Is there any action near the [URL="http://www.goldenbridgehotel.com/english/index.htm"]Golden Bridge[/URL] ? Which hotel should I change to ? [URL="http://www2.thegardenhotel.com.cn/"]The Garden Hotel[/URL] ?

Are the freelancer bars still good ? Are any that I listed shut down, under renovation or not even worth a look at this time ?

I am not really into KTV's but more into Saunas and BBS, so if you know of any places I must visit please let me know.

After reading the f-ing forums 10 pages back to July on the scene in Guangzhou, here are my notes.

[B]Hotels:[/B]

Garden Hotel
Sheraton in Houjie( new wing )
Hutian Hotel located on 156 Dongfeng Road.3 star
Ramada Pearl

[B]Nightclubs - Freelancers:[/B]

Cellar
Tang
Paddy Field
Kama bar
Gypsy kings
Kama
Cave bar
The Elephant Bar
Hill Bar

[B]KTV's:[/B]
Kande Club
Sheraton
TianHeDongLu

[B]Saunas:[/B]
Baiyun Hotel
Victory Hotel
Sheraton

[B]Business Cards:[/B]

One hour/pop is around 300 RMB and all night 7-800 RMB - for Chinese girls.

[B]Prices:[/B]

Freelance Bars: 400-500 RMB ST seems is the going rate for the Chinese girls. The imported girls are 800 RBM

KTV ST starts at 1k and up . sitting fee for a girl is 1000

SW Prices start at 200 RMB for ST depending on the season and your negotiation skills. Many will start negotiations at 800 RMB.

BBS Prices are from 130-150 RMB for FS on premises

[B]Tips:[/B]

For the 400 RMB girls (200 - 300 tip) at the low end to 800 RMB girls (400 - 600 tip) depending on quality of service.

[B]Maps:[/B]

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...6,0.004117&z=19[/url]

[B]Proxy Sites:[/B]

[url]http://www.zend2.com[/url]
[url]http://www.bypassproxy.us[/url]

[B]Trains from GZ - CP:[/B]

East Train station, definitely by train, unless you have missed the last train at 10:45pm, otherwise it runs every 15 min, so it is more like a subway train.

In addition to the monger scene does anyone recommend a good restaurant for some amazing food? Is there any great shopping that would be unique only in Guangzhou? Are there any tourist or places of interest?

What about candid photography? Are there any good locations to shoot upskirts or down blouses? What about candid photography in general? Are there any laws or restrictions on what I can and cannot shoot? Are there any great locations to shoot street photography of just amazing woman walking to and from work or school?

If anyone knows of a GFE who they would like to recommend please let me know. I am a gentleman.

Thanks in advance for taking the time to read my post and if you are able to answer any of my questions.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

Which Saunas have free WIFI?

I like to bring in my laptop and get a fee things done online. I can also write my reports. lol

Fyi, the Sheraton in Houjie has no "new wing". I was there 3 times recently and I specifically asked my new manager friend there, and the entire hotel is of the same age. Please do know that the hotel is quite good, and as I wrote before, in my experience the KTV was terrific.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Web Connect]I will have the opportunity to visit Guangzhou before I head to Chang Ping in Dongguan for my first time visit.

A friend booked me into the [URL="http://www.goldenbridgehotel.com/english/index.htm"]Golden Bridge[/URL] when I first arrive but can change the next day. Is there any action near the [URL="http://www.goldenbridgehotel.com/english/index.htm"]Golden Bridge[/URL] ? Which hotel should I change to ? [URL="http://www2.thegardenhotel.com.cn/"]The Garden Hotel[/URL] ?

Are the freelancer bars still good ? Are any that I listed shut down, under renovation or not even worth a look at this time ?

I am not really into KTV's but more into Saunas and BBS, so if you know of any places I must visit please let me know.

After reading the f-ing forums 10 pages back to July on the scene in Guangzhou, here are my notes.

[B]Hotels:[/B]

Garden Hotel
Sheraton in Houjie( new wing )
Hutian Hotel located on 156 Dongfeng Road.3 star
Ramada Pearl

[B]Nightclubs - Freelancers:[/B]

Cellar
Tang
Paddy Field
Kama bar
Gypsy kings
Kama
Cave bar
The Elephant Bar
Hill Bar

[B]KTV's:[/B]
Kande Club
Sheraton
TianHeDongLu

[B]Saunas:[/B]
Baiyun Hotel
Victory Hotel
Sheraton

[B]Business Cards:[/B]

One hour/pop is around 300 RMB and all night 7-800 RMB - for Chinese girls.

[B]Prices:[/B]

Freelance Bars: 400-500 RMB ST seems is the going rate for the Chinese girls. The imported girls are 800 RBM

KTV ST starts at 1k and up . sitting fee for a girl is 1000

SW Prices start at 200 RMB for ST depending on the season and your negotiation skills. Many will start negotiations at 800 RMB.

BBS Prices are from 130-150 RMB for FS on premises

[B]Tips:[/B]

For the 400 RMB girls (200 - 300 tip) at the low end to 800 RMB girls (400 - 600 tip) depending on quality of service.

[B]Maps:[/B]

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...6,0.004117&z=19[/url]

[B]Proxy Sites:[/B]

[url]http://www.zend2.com[/url]
[url]http://www.bypassproxy.us[/url]

[B]Trains from GZ - CP:[/B]

East Train station, definitely by train, unless you have missed the last train at 10:45pm, otherwise it runs every 15 min, so it is more like a subway train.

In addition to the monger scene does anyone recommend a good restaurant for some amazing food? Is there any great shopping that would be unique only in Guangzhou? Are there any tourist or places of interest?

What about candid photography? Are there any good locations to shoot upskirts or down blouses? What about candid photography in general? Are there any laws or restrictions on what I can and cannot shoot? Are there any great locations to shoot street photography of just amazing woman walking to and from work or school?

If anyone knows of a GFE who they would like to recommend please let me know. I am a gentleman.

Thanks in advance for taking the time to read my post and if you are able to answer any of my questions.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]

web connect,

it is great to see that some members of this forum take the time to do the research!

first of all, imho, guangzhou is not a great place to monger. if i were you, i would keep my money and bullets for cp.

clubs: i've not been to the clubs lately, but the freelancers tend to move around depending on where the punters are. tang is usually good but it is a late crowd. elephant can be a good spot for freebies if your pick-up skills are good.

saunas: victory is a good bet for sauna. it is foreigner friendly, straightforward and reasonably priced for fs. some english is spoken there, as well. sheraton is in houjie, dongguan and far from gz.

bbs: the bbs scene in gz has deteriorated over the years. most of the good shops have been shut. you can still find some shops open but they are rep001tered all over town and the quality is not so good. there is no real bbs area now.

hotels: the garden hotel is in the center of the sw area so not a bad option if that is what you are after. it is also within walking distance of many of the clubs you mention.

ktv: forget about them. they are expensive. many girls do not go out; sitting only. and, no fun by yourself. btw, sitting fees are only 200-300 rmb, some may be 500 rmb for models. not 1,000 rmb.

tips: it is not necessary to tip as much as you mention. most of the time, you just agree on the price and that is it. if you want to give them small money (20-50 rmb) for taxi fare, it is ok.

other: cantonese food is pretty good all over gz. try dim sum at the landmark hotel or similar. western food sucks everywhere outside of the 5 star hotels. shopping: you can try the wholesale market near the landmark. they have all the junk made in china cheap if that is what you are after. there is nothing to see in gz really, other than the sun yat zen memorial on dongfang lu and even that is not a must.

photography: it is ok to take photographs around town but i would urge you not to get caught taking any upskirt or down blouse shots. you certainly do not want to spend any time in a chinese jail. beijing lu might be a good location for people watching/shooting. if you want to take any direct shots of people, it may be wise to ask them first. if you are a foreigner, you will find that many locals will want to take a photo with you too.

oah

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Web Connect,

Clubs: I've not been to the clubs lately, but the freelancers tend to move around depending on where the punters are. Tang is usually good but it is a late crowd. Elephant can be a good spot for freebies if your pick-up skills are good.

Food: Cantonese Food is pretty good all over GZ. Try Dim Sum at the Landmark Hotel or similar. Western food sucks everywhere outside of the 5 star hotels.

Photography: If you want to take any direct shots of people, it may be wise to ask them first. If you are a foreigner, you will find that many locals will want to take a photo with you too.

OAH[/QUOTE]Thanks for taking the time to answer some of my questions.

[b]Clubs:[/b] What is the best time to show up at Tang or Elephant?

[b]Food:[/b] I am really looking forward to the food in China. I am definitely not going to be eating western food if can help it. Are there any areas in Guangzhou like Temple Street in HK where they have a night market and all the restos have tables out in the front?

[b]Candid Photography:[/b] I really enjoy candid photography, the beauty of it is that the person is not posing. I think it shows there real beauty. Are there any street markets or out door events during the day that would be good for shooting candid photography?

Web Connect: Tang; after 11PM. Elephant; anytime in the evening.

Restaurants: There are the type of outside restaurants all over Guangzhou.

Photography: As I suggested, Beijing Lu is a good bet.

OAH



[QUOTE=Web Connect]Thanks for taking the time to answer some of my questions.

[b]Clubs:[/b] What is the best time to show up at Tang or Elephant?

[b]Food:[/b] I am really looking forward to the food in China. I am definitely not going to be eating western food if can help it. Are there any areas in Guangzhou like Temple Street in HK where they have a night market and all the restos have tables out in the front?

[b]Candid Photography:[/b] I really enjoy candid photography, the beauty of it is that the person is not posing. I think it shows there real beauty. Are there any street markets or out door events during the day that would be good for shooting candid photography?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Web Connect]Which Saunas have free WIFI?

I like to bring in my laptop and get a fee things done online. I can also write my reports. lol[/QUOTE]The sauna and massage area of nanmei hotel (south america grand hotel) offers a free wifi.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]I have been to CELLAR a few times and saw quite a few younger girls then those typically seen in Tang. I thought they might seat with you for a fee but not available for taking out? I did occationally see some older WG sitting on the outside counter and those were certainly similar deal as in Tang.

So how does it work in CELLAR? I know they have exorbitant mininum for sitting in one of those nice both after 10pm on weekends and I would assume those young and pretty things were for those people?

How about Paddy Field? Similar to Tang in how it works?

As for Russian girls, I had done one a few years back, maybe 2005, picked her up in front of 6th Ave Cafe. But have not seen them in the past few years.


Fillmore[/QUOTE]Hi Dude,

Cellar is a regular danceclub so be careful and do not think any girl is for amusement. usually you will recognize the hookers, cause they will stay at the bar. Alone or with a female friend. They will try to make eye-contact with you. If you do not get this signal you should not try to to ask her for any service.

To get a table you need to buy a bottle wich is around 600 to 700 RMB. To get a table booked for the weekend just speak to the club-manager and he will arrange.

Actually the cellar is not same popular as it used to be last year. The scene-people (mainly models from russia and brasil) are going to BOUND and BIO now. Also the new diamond cellar is a nice club (Tianhe sports centre).

If you just go out to monger I recommend the KAMA club which is packed with Russia, Columbian and Chinese girls. here you will not find any normal guests.