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I recall last year I took my laptop to Kokomoz and was able to get a wireless connection with no problem. I was able to view the outside acitivities from my chair and surf the net.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1146926]Is there a starbucks or other public place with a decent free wifi signal?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1146926]Is there a starbucks or other public place with a decent free wifi signal?[/QUOTE]The closest Starbucks is at SM Mall. I don't believe they offer free Wi-Fi, but I could be mistaken.
Most large hotels offer free wi-fi for their guests. Some don't require a password. You can just walk near, get a signal and start surfing. For example, I stayed at the Blue Nile five months ago. They didn't lock their wi-fi.
Unless you need to use your own computer, you can just go to an internet cafe. There's a place near the jeepney station that only charges P50 for three hours. Many will charge P20 per half-hour or hour.
I was at Kokomoz two weeks ago. Their wi-fi often doesn't work. I wouldn't rely on it. I stayed at Royal Amsterdam during that trip. The password to their wi-fi was "AngelesCity".
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1146974]I agree with Run Mann. It's your money. Spend it any way you like. Yes, it might be raising the expectations of the girl you tip like this. But there are plenty of Japanese and Korean "tourists" that are spending much more than you did, and not even getting the girls out of their clothes. They are doing this in large numbers. The idea that one or two ISG members paying high tips might be spoiling the girls, is not as likely as is the idea the Asian mongers are doing it.[/QUOTE]When I see these big baller mongers I just sit back and let them blow their wad on lady drinks then I tell the waitress which one I want to fuck. She goes over and tells the girl. If the girl agrees she'll tell big baller that she has mens. After he and his buddies leave I take the girl with me for a good night of rooting without any outrageous cash outlays and I still get a hug and a kiss after giving them trike fare in the morning. Everyone is free to give what they want but tipping an amount almost equal to barfine will just let them know you're green or a sucker with a limp dick. Easy money doesn't buy respect or gratitude in AC. It just makes them think it's okay to rip foreigners off. Now I wonder how many guys tip the taxi and trike drivers 70 to 100 percent of their fare? How many tip the waitresses an amount almost equal to the cost of the meal and drinks? Or is this premium solely a pussy surcharge?
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1147011]When I see these big baller mongers I just sit back and let them blow their wad on lady drinks then I tell the waitress which one I want to fuck. She goes over and tells the girl. If the girl agrees she'll tell big baller that she has mens. After he and his buddies leave I take the girl with me for a good night of rooting without any outrageous cash outlays and I still get a hug and a kiss after giving them trike fare in the morning. Everyone is free to give what they want but tipping an amount almost equal to barfine will just let them know you're green or a sucker with a limp dick. Easy money doesn't buy respect or gratitude in AC. It just makes them think it's okay to rip foreigners off. Now I wonder how many guys tip the taxi and trike drivers 70 to 100 percent of their fare? How many tip the waitresses an amount almost equal to the cost of the meal and drinks? Or is this premium solely a pussy surcharge?[/QUOTE]100% right. Tip them crazy money and even their attitude towards you changes. Next time they see you they will expect to be bar fined again and will want the same tip. They can cause problems if you pick someone else in the same bar and so on. I am all for tipping according to performance and 500 peso ST is too much unless you wanted her to remember you and were planning to go back.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1146986]I never understood this mentality. People who warn others about overtipping are just wasting their time. I spend whatever I want to spend. I assure you that little old me isn't going to jack up the price for the entire marketplace. Prices can only go up in general if most punters are willing to pay more. Econ 101.[/QUOTE]You're right and I have no problem with anyone who warns others about over tipping or the current market price. What's idiotic are people who have appointed themselves the forum price police and spend much time spamming the board by continually bashing and insulting anyone who dare tips or pay a price (of their own money) the PP feel is too much. Parroting the line that over paying ruins the market or over tipping spoils the market is garbage because most of the buyers in the market are not doing it and the WGs know they won't get paid ($$$) from the majority of their customers. There's just no evidence to support the claim that big spenders spoil the market or over tipping spoil the WG population, or they will respect you only if pay the market rate. Why do you want a WG's respect anyway? But yes this is a pointless discussion that leads nowhere because the big spenders and tippers don't care and the bargain shoppers can't stop them.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1146909]I used to be of the mind set of no to little tipping for the girls myself. Until I visited the provinces and saw first hand what conditions these girls and families live.
Now I am a modestly tip. (even waitresses). I have plenty of expat friends who I bar hop with. And yes the expats complain. All the time. But do I care. Nope. Too dam bad. Its my money. As far as I'm concerned. Not only do I tip. I do all the tourist money crap.
Buy a table full of girls ladies drinks. Not intending to BF any. Just to have around. (which my expat friends really hate). I prefer buying the drinks than those poppers. Which I find a little too noisy. But I have tip a bucket or two in my day. . I look at it as entertaining. Fun along with helping the girls whether small or large. And it doesn't really cost that much. $5 to $10 here and there.
These girls have it tough. And as far as I'm concerned. If they are around when I'm there I try to spread the love. Can I help all. Nope. Do I do it every day. Nope. But I do it. Yep when the feeling hits me. At least a few times each trip and I can tell you this when I go to these bars. The service I get is "Out of this world" as they say.
A girl once told me when the mommie came and got her from the province she didn't know she would be doing BF's and didn't like it. I paid for her to go back to the province permanently. Back to her pinoy boyfriend She went home. And never returned.
Not only the girls. A t-shirt guy. Told me he hadn't made a sell and was hungry. I just out right gave him 100 pesos. I buy trinkets from the touts and give away to the girls. Whoever wants it.
Some guys spend on luxury hotels. I make people happy.
My motto is when I'm in town "Everyone eats"[/QUOTE]You are very right. I live in Thailand 8 month a year for the past ten years and I do what you do. I've made a lot of people and myself happy in those years.
[QUOTE=Old Dutch;1147107]You are very right. I live in Thailand 8 month a year for the past ten years and I do what you do. I've made a lot of people and myself happy in those years.[/QUOTE]Economists would call this the diffence between market efficiency and equity.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1147011]When I see these big baller mongers I just sit back and let them blow their wad on lady drinks then I tell the waitress which one I want to fuck. She goes over and tells the girl. If the girl agrees she'll tell big baller that she has mens. After he and his buddies leave I take the girl with me for a good night of rooting without any outrageous cash outlays and I still get a hug and a kiss after giving them trike fare in the morning. Everyone is free to give what they want but tipping an amount almost equal to barfine will just let them know you're green or a sucker with a limp dick. Easy money doesn't buy respect or gratitude in AC. It just makes them think it's okay to rip foreigners off. Now I wonder how many guys tip the taxi and trike drivers 70 to 100 percent of their fare? How many tip the waitresses an amount almost equal to the cost of the meal and drinks? Or is this premium solely a pussy surcharge?[/QUOTE]Hahahaha I love reading posts like this. Let me know when you are back in AC, I would love to see how this works.
Robb
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1146960]Odd! Why do you care about or need the group's approval about how you dispensed your own money?:confused:[/QUOTE]To give a guy a hard time because he tipped a girl $17. 00 is silly. Enjoy yourself and continue to be "generous".
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1146909]I used to be of the mind set of no to little tipping for the girls myself. Until I visited the provinces and saw first hand what conditions these girls and families live.
Now I am a modestly tip. (even waitresses). I have plenty of expat friends who I bar hop with. And yes the expats complain. All the time. But do I care. Nope. Too dam bad. Its my money. As far as I'm concerned. Not only do I tip. I do all the tourist money crap.
Buy a table full of girls ladies drinks. Not intending to BF any. Just to have around. (which my expat friends really hate). I prefer buying the drinks than those poppers. Which I find a little too noisy. But I have tip a bucket or two in my day. . I look at it as entertaining. Fun along with helping the girls whether small or large. And it doesn't really cost that much. $5 to $10 here and there.
These girls have it tough. And as far as I'm concerned. If they are around when I'm there I try to spread the love. Can I help all. Nope. Do I do it every day. Nope. But I do it. Yep when the feeling hits me. At least a few times each trip and I can tell you this when I go to these bars. The service I get is "Out of this world" as they say.
A girl once told me when the mommie came and got her from the province she didn't know she would be doing BF's and didn't like it. I paid for her to go back to the province permanently. Back to her pinoy boyfriend She went home. And never returned.
Not only the girls. A t-shirt guy. Told me he hadn't made a sell and was hungry. I just out right gave him 100 pesos. I buy trinkets from the touts and give away to the girls. Whoever wants it.
Some guys spend on luxury hotels. I make people happy.
My motto is when I'm in town "Everyone eats"[/QUOTE]Very well said!
Thanks.
Robb
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1147011]When I see these big baller mongers I just sit back and let them blow their wad on lady drinks then I tell the waitress which one I want to fuck. She goes over and tells the girl. If the girl agrees she'll tell big baller that she has mens.[/QUOTE]Why would a girl leave the big baller for you? Do you have the waitress slip her some cash?
[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1146986]I never understood this mentality. People who warn others about overtipping are just wasting their time. I spend whatever I want to spend. I assure you that little old me isn't going to jack up the price for the entire marketplace. Prices can only go up in general if most punters are willing to pay more. Econ 101.[/QUOTE]Old mongers like myself will not share cheap spots with overspenders anymore. All info on my part will be through PM. I still know spots in Asia where I can get young girls for $10-$15. Guys come on the boards and brag about how much they overspend which displays how weak of a monger he is. Valuable info should not be shared with these type of people. Pathetic really! No sense in turning a whroe into a princess.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1147173]Why would a girl leave the big baller for you? Do you have the waitress slip her some cash?[/QUOTE]To answer that question, we must ask why the girls go with some mongers and not with others. If money is the sole deciding factor the girls should be willing to go with any monger willing to pay the price that walks in through the door. Looks, age, cleanliness, ability to converse and make the time in the bar pass faster should not matter. The girls should be willing to leave on a bar fine with the biggest jerk in the bar because he is throwing money around right? In reality we know it doesn't quite work like this. Often the big spender is compensating for some shortcomings with his money. The more he spends the higher his expectations back in the room. After all, he earned the right to fuck all her 3 holes back in the room by spending so much money on her and she should be grateful as far as he is concerned. The girls know this type all too well. The girl has nothing to lose by letting the guy buy her lady drinks all night until he leaves the bar and then going with another guy she finds more tolerable to fuck. The bar fine is the same and the other guy might actually have some money left to tip her with in the morning in addition to buying her some more lady drinks before leaving the bar. As for the waitress doing the favor, you will have to buy her a drink and have her sit with you and chat for a while so she can screen you for her friend sitting at the table with the free spender. This only works if the girl wants to stay overnight. If she is planning to do a runner then it doesn't matter who she goes with since she'll do one pop and bolt to spend the night with her local boyfriend. The waitress serves as a proxy and she gets a reasonable tip for playing this part. She is usually older and the younger girl is a recent arrival she took under her wing.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1147215]To answer that question, we must ask why the girls go with some mongers and not with others. If money is the sole deciding factor the girls should be willing to go with any monger willing to pay the price that walks in through the door. Looks, age, cleanliness, ability to converse and make the time in the bar pass faster should not matter. The girls should be willing to leave on a bar fine with the biggest jerk in the bar because he is throwing money around right? In reality we know it doesn't quite work like this.[/QUOTE]I for one am HAPPY the girls do NOT or have to go with just anyone who has the price of a bar fine. . I believe that is one element that those who truely like AC appreciate. You then know when some (not All) of the girls do accept the bar fine with you. Its not STRICTLY about the money. She see's something about you she likes.
But who do you think they perceive as being the most desirable guy. The guy who is sitting alone or the guy surrounded by women. Laughing and having fun.
If there is one that is true about women all over the world. When they see a guy with women (especially more than one). He naturally looks more desirable to them. They want to know why is he so worthy of so much attention. What about him make him so special. And they gravitate towards him.
Not that I am suggesting to do this as a means to have the girls want you.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1147215]Often the big spender is compensating for some shortcomings with his money. The more he spends the higher his expectations back in the room. After all, he earned the right to fuck all her 3 holes back in the room by spending so much money on her and she should be grateful as far as he is concerned. The girls know this type all too well. The girl has nothing to lose by letting the guy buy her lady drinks all night until he leaves the bar and then going with another guy she finds more tolerable to fuck. The bar fine is the same and the other guy might actually have some money left to tip her with in the morning in addition to buying her some more lady drinks before leaving the bar.[/QUOTE]Well this statement I just can't believe. People spend money there not because of any short comings. Or requiring a 3 hole session back at the room.
Most do it cause they can. Its a vacation. They have saved for it. And they want to have a good time and the SMALL amount of money it cost. $4 a drink for 5 girls = $20. Is that's really breaking the bank. It's nothing. Versus the joy / happiness / food it can bring the girls. If you did that 5 times in 1 trip. That would only be $100. As I stated in my prior post. I don't stay in $100 rooms. More like $50 to $60. So the money save there. To me is better spend with the girls. And I believe that's how a lot of guys who are like me think.
Also the idea of it being short comings. This is something I never understood. When you pay a woman to sleep with you. You have nothing to prove. You don't pay her to PLEASE HER. You pay her to PLEASE [B]YOU[/B].
So how can there be short comings. Whether you bust in 3 mins. Or 2 hrs. As long as you are happy and satisfied. Then everything is GREAT. . Or if he's small in size the girl might like it more since they aren't hurting. In fact the quick or small dick guys might get in a few more bust than the guys who are trying to bust out their backs. So they may get pleased even more. So where is the short comings.
So your routine might work for you. And more power to you if it does. But I can tell you from my experience. And I'm one of those people you talk about. Buying up to 5 different girls LDs at a time. I have NEVER had a girl leave my table and go to another person while I was there. And I have never seen it happen to any other guy spending.
1st. They know the spender will probably be back in the bar and the next time they probably won't receive a drink. And I know one thing. The bar girls hate is to see their friends drinking and having a good time laughing. While they have to stand by and watch.
2nd. I don't think these girls (who 99% don't think past the moment). Rationalize the way you say. Why would they think the guy who isn't buying any one drinks. Would spend money to bar fine them. Or tip any better. . Than the guy who is sitting obviously spending money showing he has it. (sort of leave the bird in the hand for the one in the Bush). I know you want to believe it. But I doubt its a good strategy.
JMHO.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1147175]Old mongers like myself will not share cheap spots with overspenders anymore. All info on my part will be through PM. I still know spots in Asia where I can get young girls for $10-$15. Guys come on the boards and brag about how much they overspend which displays how weak of a monger he is. Valuable info should not be shared with these type of people. Pathetic really! No sense in turning a whroe into a princess.[/QUOTE]What helps me is knowing what the going rate is in burgos and in edsa for bar fine and what to pay the girl. This form helps inform us what is average price and what is not. Some women will ask as much as they think they can get. Good to know if I am over paying or under paying.