General Reports

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1372817]Your maths is a bit off. 30 nights in a month at USD100 pernight is closer to $3000, suggest you ask at Wesley Hotel in Wanchai, it's built iover the Wesley church and last time I walked by they were converting to long rent rooms, rooms are a bit small, but OK.[/QUOTE]I was factoring in a 30 percent discount for a hotel stay of a month or more, which I get in BKK. So a 100 USD HKG hotel would be 2100 a month, a bit over 2K.

BTW in BKK my laundry & dry cleaning bill is about $3 a day or under 100 a month. The hotel does it for me. I don't know what it would cost in HKG, but in Canada that would run me closer to $1000.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1373117]Chantik is a man posing as an Indonesian hooker, for some inexplicable reaeson. Steer clear, mate.[/QUOTE]How do you know this Gaijin? True, anybody could be anybody in the virtual world. I could be a 16 year old kid whacking off and making up reports in my mother's suburban basement. You could be a hermaphrodite. No flame intended. Unless you have definitive evidence to the contrary, I will continue to assume Chantik is exactly who she claims to be. No one else in the forum is questioned about their identity. Why single out Chantik? You can agree or disagree with her opinions and talking points, I certainly do at times, but at present, I see no reason to doubt her authenticity more than any other board member including you.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1373117]Chantik is a man posing as an Indonesian hooker, for some inexplicable reaeson. Steer clear, mate.[/QUOTE]I am not sure why you would say this. I got tied up and wasn't able to schedule a date, but she sent me her picture and I spoke with her on the phone on my last time in HK. She spoke quite good English on the phone, and she is good looking in her picture, IMHO. She gave me no reason to think she isn't who she says she is.

Flew in late on Sunday night and had a few hours in wan chai.

Amazonia and escape appeared to be the main traffic.

Escape had the better looking girls IMHO.

Neptune was dead and the street traffic was the standard wan chai wrestling match.

Fell into one mama bar that was dead and the mama threw four girls at me and they all wanted a lady drink. All Thai girls ranging from 4-6. With bad lighting. As they were not that expensive I said sure and ended up with four very brief BBBJ's to say thanks for the drinks. A little fun for less than the cost of a lap dance back home.

Then the hard sell from the mama which I really hate so ended up leaving there and heading back to my hotel.

Ended up calling a 141 outcall massage who was great value and gave a good professional massage followed by an expert BBBJ with CIM.

Wan chai is really so easy to monger any way you like it.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1373117]Chantik is a man posing as an Indonesian hooker, for some inexplicable reaeson. Steer clear, mate.[/QUOTE]Ah, Gaijin Gigolo (sigh).

I would refer you, and any doubters, to the numerous posts from esteemed ISGers who know, up close and personal, that Chantik is very real.

I nearly met up with the lovely (judging from her website) lass myself, sadly missing out, before departing HK, but hold out hope for the future.

If Chantik is a ruse, it would be a rather elaborate one involving punters whose comments I enjoy reading, and prefer to believe in.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1373405]Ah, Gaijin Gigolo (sigh).

I would refer you, and any doubters, to the numerous posts from esteemed ISGers who know, up close and personal, that Chantik is very real.

I nearly met up with the lovely (judging from her website) lass myself, sadly missing out, before departing HK, but hold out hope for the future.

If Chantik is a ruse, it would be a rather elaborate one involving punters whose comments I enjoy reading, and prefer to believe in.[/QUOTE]Chantik is very real. And a very real treat I help myself to when in HK. I have to photos to prove that.

Wondering what you expected to find, exactly. I imagine you WERE disappointed if you were hoping for a room full of models and / or cute college age girls. There are some real gems to be found at all the clubs you mentioned, trust me on that.

Just for some added information, some of the girls in Bar 109, Players and to a lesser extent, Neptune 3 and J Forest are there ONLY to get guys to buy them a drink for which they get a commission. They will never hook up with you or anybody else or do anything beyond grope you at the bar for drinks. As you noticed, there are also those who are there simply to dance and have a good time without any plans for a shag. Lots of those, actually. Then there are the part-time pros who'll go with any guy who'll slip HKD500 in their purse on their way out your door after the deed is done. And THEN there those who are just looking for a shag with no payment expected, those are the keepers and they're easily approachable. You'll also see girls who appear to be in shock at the whole scene and spend their day clinging to each other with nervous excitement/awe as they wander from club to club. Fun to flirt with those just to see the astonishment on their faces. :-D

[QUOTE=JPF; 1373118]Forgive an actual FR:

I was a first timer checking out the "maid parade" in Wan Chai. I was disappointed.

All the bars have a dance area and a bar area. All are generally very loud which makes it very hard to hold a conversation. The dance floors are generally packed and the bar areas of many places are also packed so it is hard to impossible to move around. This makes it very difficult to see the women and get close enough to them to try to talk to them.

One thing I haven't seen written about in the forum is that some bars allow smoking and in some it is not permitted. As someone who dislikes smoke that was another negative for me.

Here are some specific points for some of the bars:

Smokey: Bar 109, Neptune 3.

Bar 109: very small (it was written that you shouldn't go in there if you are not drunk. I wasn't and it didn't seem very different than any other of the bars)

J Forest: started later and wasn't quite as loud as the other places.

New Makati: was quieter early in the afternoon but then they turned up the volume.

Players: smaller (but not as small as Bar 109) and noisier than average.

Escape: somewhat larger but very dark so hard to see anyone.

As for the women: I saw an awful lot of ordinary looking women and wasn't attracted to almost any. The one possible I saw (in New Makati) had a nice body and soso face and danced well. However, she was dancing when I came in and never stopped the whole time I was there, probably 45 minutes. I gave her a look and nod and she looked back. After awhile I went up to her and told her I would like to buy her a drink when she wanted a break. At one point another guy went up to her and started dancing next to her (his front to her back). She didn't give him any positive or negative feedback and just kept dancing. He left after a few minutes. When I left I waved to her and she waved back and that was that.

Women (who I wasn't interested in) came up to me or put their hand on my arm as I walked by in Bar 109 and Players but everywhere else no one gave me a look and all seemed only interested in dancing and hanging out with their friends.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo; 1373561]Wondering what you expected to find, exactly. I imagine you WERE disappointed if you were hoping for a room full of models and / or cute college age girls. There are some real gems to be found at all the clubs you mentioned, trust me on that.

Just for some added information, some of the girls in Bar 109, Players and to a lesser extent, Neptune 3 and J Forest are there ONLY to get guys to buy them a drink for which they get a commission. They will never hook up with you or anybody else or do anything beyond grope you at the bar for drinks. As you noticed, there are also those who are there simply to dance and have a good time without any plans for a shag. Lots of those, actually. Then there are the part-time pros who'll go with any guy who'll slip HKD500 in their purse on their way out your door after the deed is done. And THEN there those who are just looking for a shag with no payment expected, those are the keepers and they're easily approachable. You'll also see girls who appear to be in shock at the whole scene and spend their day clinging to each other with nervous excitement / awe as they wander from club to club. Fun to flirt with those just to see the astonishment on their faces. :-D[/QUOTE]That is exactly what the scene is like.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1373563]That is exactly what the scene is like.[/QUOTE]Finally, somebody agrees with me on this board. LOL! Cheers, mate

Good to see that the guys agree with my post from 10. 46pm yesterday.

And I have posted similar in the past, as have other posters.

Think guys need to be more realistic on a Sunday.

D / H's only get HK 3800 per month which is not enough to buy good quality cosmetics / clothes etc, unless they know a generous guy.

And if they get dressed up, they need to change clothes before returning to their employer.

Back to important matters.

Seems like a few more of the ladies are choosing to go to Amazonia, instead of Escape.

This is mainly because Escape is still quiet after Christmas, and the rule that you can't go back the same night, if you have left with a guy.

Some ladies from Amazonia will go to Escape just before 1am if they got lucky.

[QUOTE=WTF0506;1371950]Try Hong kong tantric massage. PM me for the number. My wife and I had one of the girls over and wow! I still owe a report. LOL.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the tip re tantric massage which I have tried, but I am looking for new experiences.

BTW, as I am new to this site, please could you tell me how do I PM someone.

Thank you Very much.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1373730]Back to important matters.

Seems like a few more of the ladies are choosing to go to Amazonia, instead of Escape.

This is mainly because Escape is still quiet after Christmas, and the rule that you can't go back the same night, if you have left with a guy.

Some ladies from Amazonia will go to Escape just before 1am if they got lucky.[/QUOTE]That's incorrect. There simply is not enough room in Amazonia for more women to be going there instead of Escape, which is roughly 6-7 times the size of the former. People go to Amazonia primarily to see the two incredibly talented live bands that rotate sessions there every night. Yes, there are hookers there too, but Escape is an outright meat market. The two are apples and oranges. And Escape is just as busy as ever. Also, there's no such rule. Whoever heard of a bar whose sole existence is to provide a venue for picking up wh0res not letting the wh0res in.

It helps if you carefully read my post.

The ladies go where they can get business.

And I said some of the ladies that go to Escape are going to Amazonia and Joe Bananas.

And guys have recently posted that Wanchai has been quiet.

Escape has been very quiet since Mid December. Its starting to pick up slowly. Escape gets lots of business travellers. So in the period till mid / end January, ladies will go to other places.

Agree about the bands at Amazonia. I was rocking there on Saturday night. And it was full.

Agree that Escape is the most professional of all the bars.

Seeing that I have friends in the industry - Think I have some idea of what is happening in the bars.

And by the way - When was the last time you visited Escape and Amazonia ?

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