Stupid shit in Medellin

It's funny how the same shit keeps plopping from the same people, month after month.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2951907]So just because you don't like her forehead, she is automatically downgraded to a 6 ? (and a 6 is average looking, girl next door type, nothing to write home about). So, in your eyes, a legitimate successful model is just a 6? Don't you see that your logic is fucked up? This is where you fail, dummy. You focus on one particular feature that you didn't like (which, in this case, is not even that big of a deal, its not like she is missing a limb or has no teeth), and forego all other features of her face and body like they don't exist. I'm scrolling through her pics as I type this, and she was looking beautiful in her prime years. 5' 10' height, zero tattoos, absolutely no excess fat, flat stomach with slightly visible abs, beautiful smile. BTW, she is not my type at all, because I'm not into black women. Does this mean I would downgrade her to a 6? Absolutely fucking not, dummy. Keep fucking your average looking chicks thinking they are 9's and 10's, and keep posting shitty photos of various body parts thinking posting crap is better than nothing.[/QUOTE]Most legitimate, successful models aren't exceptional. By legitimate, I mean they are someone who is working as a model. Successful means they are supporting themselves through their modeling. If you want to limit the category to top tier supermodels, start by listing the top tier supermodels you have fucked.

Models get work because they fit a particular niche. For runway work that's typically tall and thin, narrow hips, angular face, small breasts, minimal ass. Except for those features, they are mostly average looking girls. Hair and makeup adds the illusion of exceptional beauty. Other niches emphasize different features. As I've discussed a ridiculous number of times in the past, your "objective" rating system is useless, for anyone not hiring or judging women for a particular niche.

Fortunately, the people on this website are judging women for a particular niche, "women they want to fuck. " Unfortunately, it's a completely subjective niche. Those of us who socialize have experienced firsthand the subjective nature of the scale.

Of course, anywhere you find legitimate models, you have an excellent chance of finding prostitutes. I've met many in Medellin over the years. Some made my grade, some didn't.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter what you think of any girls that other guys choose. I don't believe anyone here has asked you to fuck the girls for them. Although, there might be some who are tempted, just so their penis would look bigger by comparison.

On a more useful note, anyone in the upper Midwest interested in finding a Colombian / Venezuelan bar and restaurant, feel free to pm me. I doubt you'll find any hookers there, but there are some fine paisas working there, and the food is authentic. Only Colombian beer served is Aguila.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2951998]So this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt you don't know what subjective vs objective means. And again shows you have short eyes as you fixate on 'girls. ' You claim not to be a native speaker of English, which no one believes, but in English, adult females are known as 'women. '.

And Dunning and Kruger remind you that you don't know anything about being older and are so obnoxious as to be unlikely to.[/QUOTE]Don't get your hopes up, grandpa. That was a typo.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2951958]It is an opinion, not an absolute. Look up the history of lobsters. It was given to train riders because it was some cheap plentiful bullshit. You could not pay a rich person to eat a sea bug back then. Now look. It has turned into a delicacy and the prices are outrageous. Lobsters did not change, the OPINION and the psychology of people changed.

When you go back to the early 20th century in the USA, the women who were supposed 10's in those days, you would probably be saying they are 3's today. Tomorrow the women you are saying are 10's, somebody will be saying they are 3's.[/QUOTE]When men look at women, they look at health. In the past, that meant the obese women was healthy as she had enough food whereas the thin woman was perceived to be starving and suffering from nutritional deficiencies.

The reason lobster demand has changed is because of supply. It used to be incredibly abundant. [URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/emcx69/the_history_of_lobster_canning_aka_lobsters_were/[/URL].

In those days, a 4-5 lb lobster was considered small, and a 2 lb lobster was discarded as being not worth the effort.

Lobster's reputation started improving when demand for live lobsters increased as an inland luxury food, and because it wasn't rationed during World War II like most other foods were. Ships filled with water, called 'smacks' to transport live lobsters instead of canned, also made them much more popular.

As for the rest of it, the standards of beauty have been studied and proven. This is from wikipedia and sources are listed. Heterosexual men tend to be attracted to women who have a youthful appearance and exhibit features such as a symmetrical face, full breasts, full lips, and a low waisthip ratio.

The female standard of beauty that women use for men is also listed: Heterosexual women tend to be attracted to men who are taller than them and who display a high degree of facial symmetry, masculine facial dimorphism, upper body strength, broad shoulders, a relatively narrow waist, and a V-shaped torso.

So while guys go off on this whole notion of female beauty and it cannot be objective, there seems to be this unanimous opinion on what appearance women want. Gee, I wonder why that is.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2952027]Ok I understand. So what you are saying is that if one of your mystery online 10's showed up and she turned out to be 300 pounds then you would have no problem with that because it is only one feature, and you would not focus on one particular feature that you did not like the way I would.[/QUOTE]If a woman is morbidly obese she is: unhealthy, disproportionate, has high body fat %, has cellulitis, double or triple chin, etc. She would fail all the objective beauty standards.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2952024]I never said that. What I said is if the chick will not fuck you without you giving said "gift" or financial support. Which is indeed the definition of a hooker. I have no problem with hookers. I have no problem with guys deluding themselves that she is not a hooker. It is their money. Hell, I do not even have a problem with guys coming here crying about it after they have gotten taken by chicks they had been giving such gifts and financial support to under the pretense that the chick is not a hooker. He already knows if the chick is only fucking him because of the shit he is giving her, whether he wants to admit it or not.[/QUOTE]Let's say, you have a girlfriend. You don't give her cash after each time you fuck her. But sometimes, you buy her gifts. You pay some bills of hers, or if you live together you pay for rent, food etc. Or maybe you pay for vacations together. So you are supporting her to some extent. And most of the time, it is difficult to say if she is with you for your money or the benefits you provide, because you are kinda supposed to provide, because you are a man. No woman wants to date a brokie. Your financial position is one of the factors she looks at when deciding to date you. So by your logic, if a woman picks a financially stable / successful man, she is a hooker, because she wouldn't pick him if he was broke. Any by your logic, almost any woman is a hooker with a very few exceptions (let's say, 2 college kids dating each other, both are young and broke).

My definition of a hooker is woman who treats prostitution as her job. She has some sort of a schedule, a workplace (be it a case or street) and gets paid after each session. If you ask any man what they picture when thinking about a prostitute, the majority would say they picture a vulgarly dressed woman standing in the dark corner of a street selling herself to strangers walking by. People generally don't think of sugar babies, friends with benefits, girlfriends and wives as prostitutes, even though technically they all get supported one way or another.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2952028]You made no point at all. [B]Subjective beauty standards of whom[/B] is what you constantly fail to answer. You mean to tell me that if I gave my economics paper to Karl Marx, that he is going to use the same subjective grading standards as Milton Friedman?[/QUOTE]If you give your economics paper to a teacher / professor you will be graded according to the objective grading criteria, just like any other student in your class. If you don't know how economics papers are graded, just google it. I had submitted quite a few of them when I was in college.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2952109]Let's say, you have a girlfriend. You don't give her cash after each time you fuck her. But sometimes, you buy her gifts. You pay some bills of hers, or if you live together you pay for rent, food etc. Or maybe you pay for vacations together. So you are supporting her to some extent. And most of the time, it is difficult to say if she is with you for your money or the benefits you provide, because you are kinda supposed to provide, because you are a man. No woman wants to date a brokie. Your financial position is one of the factors she looks at when deciding to date you. So by your logic, if a woman picks a financially stable / successful man, she is a hooker, because she wouldn't pick him if he was broke. Any by your logic, almost any woman is a hooker with a very few exceptions (let's say, 2 college kids dating each other, both are young and broke).[/QUOTE]As I said before, you know if that woman is with you for what you are giving her. An easy test is to stop giving her shit and see if she is still there. The shit is not brain surgery.

Me and a girlfriend in Brazil who is a nurse are going on a trip. She said she will go ahead and buy her ticket round trip. She is not a hooker and has never asked me for anything.

Another chick here in Bogota works at a day care and I asked her to come see me yesterday. She said how much are you going to give me. In other words, she is not coming here if there is no financial benefit to her. You know if a chick is only around you for said financial benefits without them even saying it. It is NOT difficult to say. If you don't, then you are the dummy.

I am in a Thailand group on facebook. A guy came on and said there is a girl that I want to be my girlfriend. How much should I give her each month? Some person said $300. Another person said $500. Someone else said if you need to give her money then she ain't your girlfriend. The guy reported back later that he told the chick he would give her $300 and she said that is not enough. So logically, she would not have been his real girlfriend, but only someone around because of what he was giving her. You do not have to pay or financially support a girlfriend. You have to pay or financially support an employee or hooker.

Of course things are different if you are living together and sharing responsibilities.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2951937]I just want to add that people are different over a spectrum. You are at the extreme end, while the pure casa guy is at another extreme. Then there are guys that cover the whole spectrum. Not everybody knowns or understands himself well enough but only the person himself can know what he wants and does not want.[/QUOTE]You miss the point when Gabacho is trying to get those he perceives as "Marriott guys" banned. Why is that? I think it is because he feels inferior. I wish he would not look at people as "Marriott guys" or "Presto guys". I hope he gets to the point that he sees the Marriott as it is, a nice but very often wildly overpriced hotel.

When I said the Marriott can be used to give you a good impression with women, Mr. E countered that the hookers were used to it which is true. Thing I was interested in lower volume women, and THEY were impressed with the hotel.

If hookers can get used to the Marriott, then surely Gabacho can too.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2952061]Except for those features, they are mostly average looking girls. Hair and makeup adds the illusion of exceptional beauty.[/QUOTE]But some guys prefer to live in the fantasy and believe they know their worth. Nah. Underneath all that shit, she is just a regular old chick. The same as the ones you grew up with.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2952132]As I said before, you know if that woman is with you for what you are giving her. An easy test is to stop giving her shit and see if she is still there. The shit is not brain surgery.

Me and a girlfriend in Brazil who is a nurse are going on a trip. She said she will go ahead and buy her ticket round trip. She is not a hooker and has never asked me for anything.

Another chick here in Bogota works at a day care and I asked her to come see me yesterday. She said how much are you going to give me. In other words, she is not coming here if there is no financial benefit to her. You know if a chick is only around you for said financial benefits without them even saying it. It is NOT difficult to say. If you don't, then you are the dummy.

I am in a Thailand group on facebook. A guy came on and said there is a girl that I want to be my girlfriend. How much should I give her each month? Some person said $300. Another person said $500. Someone else said if you need to give her money then she ain't your girlfriend. The guy reported back later that he told the chick he would give her $300 and she said that is not enough. So logically, she would not have been his real girlfriend, but only someone around because of what he was giving her. You do not have to pay or financially support a girlfriend. You have to pay or financially support an employee or hooker.

Of course things are different if you are living together and sharing responsibilities.[/QUOTE]I am always asking myself what's the deal in spending 4 k $ in a year to "have a GF in a given country", someone you will see maybe 30 days in a year (maybe) and bang 10/15 times in a year (unless they both are horny full.

Time) with a budget of over 100 $ a day (for those 30 days) one can afford to have a different LT every day (so can spend even 24 hrs with the girl) and be able to change everyday or every week or whenever he gets tired (as he will get tired).

I don't even elaborate the "pay me so I don't go working in a ber".

And sooner or later those 500 $ will not be enough and she will be getting greedy.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2952132]As I said before, you know if that woman is with you for what you are giving her. An easy test is to stop giving her shit and see if she is still there. The shit is not brain surgery.

Me and a girlfriend in Brazil who is a nurse are going on a trip. She said she will go ahead and buy her ticket round trip. She is not a hooker and has never asked me for anything.

Another chick here in Bogota works at a day care and I asked her to come see me yesterday. She said how much are you going to give me. In other words, she is not coming here if there is no financial benefit to her. You know if a chick is only around you for said financial benefits without them even saying it. It is NOT difficult to say. If you don't, then you are the dummy.

I am in a Thailand group on facebook. A guy came on and said there is a girl that I want to be my girlfriend. How much should I give her each month? Some person said $300. Another person said $500. Someone else said if you need to give her money then she ain't your girlfriend. The guy reported back later that he told the chick he would give her $300 and she said that is not enough. So logically, she would not have been his real girlfriend, but only someone around because of what he was giving her. You do not have to pay or financially support a girlfriend. You have to pay or financially support an employee or hooker.

Of course things are different if you are living together and sharing responsibilities.[/QUOTE]Last year a met a chick in Istanbul. She is local. We went on a date, money never discussed prior. I did her that night BBFS and she stayed the night. I assumed she was in need because she was a college girl living with her mom. Maybe not desperate, but wouldn't mind some help, even though she never asked anything directly. Maybe she was playing a long game, or maybe she was just into me and didn't expect any help. Who the fuck knows? Anyways, the next morning, when she was leaving I put 200 usd in her pocket. I had a great time with her, but my trip was about to end so I knew I probably wouldn't see her again and decided to help out.

I met another chick in MDE. We agreed to pay per meet. Went on a date, everything went well, GFE all around. Stayed the night. I paid her what we agreed on. Went on anther date with her. Same thing, stayed the night, GFE. She took the money but said she didn't feel right about taking money from me and said she would not charge me again. Dates 3,4,5 etc until I left were all free. Obviously I covered restaurants, movies, etc. I haven't seen her in a while but we still keep in touch. Now you tell me, was she with me because of the money?

These two examples illustrate that it's not always black and white.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2952178]Last year a met a chick in Istanbul. She is local. We went on a date, money never discussed prior. I did her that night BBFS and she stayed the night. I assumed she was in need because she was a college girl living with her mom. Maybe not desperate, but wouldn't mind some help, even though she never asked anything directly. Maybe she was playing a long game, or maybe she was just into me and didn't expect any help. Who the fuck knows? Anyways, the next morning, when she was leaving I put 200 usd in her pocket. I had a great time with her, but my trip was about to end so I knew I probably wouldn't see her again and decided to help out.[/QUOTE]Everybody in the world would not mind some help. If you would not have had sex with her, would you still have put $200 in her pocket? Because whether you fucked or not, she could have still used $200 I am sure. Or do you only go around leaving $200 to people you have fucked?

The real error with the [B]I pay more for my prostitutes therefore I am better than you[/B] is that they believe that money makes everything better. [B]LOL[/B]!

I would never trade the short life the Steve Jobs had in order to become a billionaire and not have lived as long as I have. Someone can choose to live will on very little money. I see it all the time. I also have friends that can buy and sell me before morning coffee. The universal thing that I see is that both sets of my friends are happy.

So, our racist men of privilege talk shit about [B]Gabacho[/B]. They never met him. They know NOTHING about him. They have not seen his girls in multiple countries nor sat down and share a drink with him. [B]Miami Boy and Elvis 2008[/B] are both arrogant mother fucks to think they can characterize him. But of course, everyone is free to have their own opinions. [B]Elvis 2008 thinks I am stupid, a socialist and that I don't know anything about Bitcoin[/B].

[B]Man Law 101[/B]: [I]no man ought to be telling another man how to spend his hard earned money or how to live[/I]!

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2952157]I am always asking myself what's the deal in spending 4k $ in a year to "have a GF in a given country", someone you will see maybe 30 days in a year (maybe) and bang 10/15 times in a year (unless they both are horny full.

Time) with a budget of over 100 $ a day (for those 30 days) one can afford to have a different LT every day (so can spend even 24 hrs with the girl) and be able to change everyday or every week or whenever he gets tired (as he will get tired).

I don't even elaborate the "pay me so I don't go working in a ber".

And sooner or later those 500 $ will not be enough and she will be getting greedy.[/QUOTE]Cannot say I disagree with anything that you wrote. The one thing I appreciate is that you ask yourself the question. We have others that project their ideas onto others and write as if their opinions are facts.

[B]ManLaw 101[/B]: [I]No man ought to be telling another man how to spend his hard earned money or who to fuck[/I].

I roll by the above principle. [B]They like it then I love it[/B]! Individual views on relationships are our personal perceptions. It would do us all good to take a step back and get some perspective.

[B]Example[/B]: I maintain multiple residences in multiple countries. You don't have to do the math to determine that I spend more time away from those residences each year than I do in the residences. You can make the same argument that I should rent short term save the money for the rest of the year and use it for my next rental. It makes logical financial sense. Especially if you don't have the money to maintain multiple residences on a monthly basis. But in this case I am not trying to optimize my expenditures to the lowest common denominator. Because I don't have to. I have an attitude of abundance. If I need more of that fiat paper shit. I'll earn it.

I like having everything just so. Turn key in the places I like to spend time. And so I incur the additional expenses and I pay for what I want in my life. Many of my other friends do also. Because we can all roll like that.

My point is that we all want different things out of life. How you go about getting that is going to as different as our individual personalities. There is nothing wrong with that. Many different types of relationships exist beyond the white line relationship of good girl / prostitute. That attitude says you cannot have a prostitute as a girlfriend. You can. And I do it all the time. The days of slavery are over gentlemen. A girl gets to do what she wants to do with her body. Our only ability within any relationship is to decide how we are going to react to it.

I keep the attitude of: [B]Pussy is Pussy[/B]! A lot of punk ass ***** mother fuckers talk a lot of shit to me about it up in here. But I just don't give a fuck. The real meaning of [B]Pussy is Pussy[/B] is that if all you are doing is fucking it really doesn't matter who the girl is. Only when you bring in the non sexual factors does a girl differentiate herself in my life.

I don't do closed relationships. For me or my partners. I tell them straight up I am going to have sex with other girls. But they can be special in my life if they take care of me. The ones that taken that deal have been the best relationships I have ever had and have lasted longer than either of my two marriages.

I find the opinions of others interesting. But I just nod, smile and go on about my business.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2952178]Last year a met a chick in Istanbul. She is local. We went on a date, money never discussed prior. I did her that night BBFS and she stayed the night. I assumed she was in need because she was a college girl living with her mom. Maybe not desperate, but wouldn't mind some help, even though she never asked anything directly. Maybe she was playing a long game, or maybe she was just into me and didn't expect any help. Who the fuck knows? Anyways, the next morning, when she was leaving I put 200 usd in her pocket. I had a great time with her, but my trip was about to end so I knew I probably wouldn't see her again and decided to help out.

I met another chick in MDE. We agreed to pay per meet. Went on a date, everything went well, GFE all around. Stayed the night. I paid her what we agreed on. Went on anther date with her. Same thing, stayed the night, GFE. She took the money but said she didn't feel right about taking money from me and said she would not charge me again. Dates 3,4,5 etc until I left were all free. Obviously I covered restaurants, movies, etc. I haven't seen her in a while but we still keep in touch. Now you tell me, was she with me because of the money?

These two examples illustrate that it's not always black and white.[/QUOTE]Those 2 examples illustrate it's black and white.

In the first example you assumed she was a prostitute, accepted that she was a prostitute and paid her as a prostitute. Was she just into you? Playing a long game? Curious? Just horny and figuring she could fuck you and never have to deal with you again? Who knows, but in your mind she was a woman who would accept cash in return for sex. Over the years, I've met many women, fucked, spent the night and went my way. Any of them would have been insulted had I offered them money.

Second example, clearly a prostitute, playing a common Medellin long game. Probably almost every guy who has spent significant time in Medellin has met the type. Why keep charging, when you get free nights out and you can set the guy up for a "mor te necesito ayudarme" moment somewhere down the road?