Just be careful not to slip on the floor wet from pussy juices. There's yellow sings "Caution! Slippery when wet!" if too many girls have their period on the same day.
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Just be careful not to slip on the floor wet from pussy juices. There's yellow sings "Caution! Slippery when wet!" if too many girls have their period on the same day.
HB.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1736762]I've never been to an FKK before so just need some advice.
What's the hygiene situation like if all the girls walk around naked the whole time? If you think nothing drips out of their pussies, then just look at your girlfriends soiled panties. Do the girls shower after each customer? Do they work during their period by using a sponge inside their pussies or do they take days off?[/QUOTE]It's really not a problem. They clean up after each customer (less of a problem if there is no AO). But if there is something dripping out of their pussies, then wearing panties wouldn't improve the situation, at least with respect to their pussies (but perhaps with respect to the floor). But, again, nothing drips out. I've noticed the occasional sponge, but probably some take off during their periods as well. I've never seen menstrual blood at an FKK club.
Very occasionally, at Partytreff clubs, I've seen one guy finish and the next guy continue right away, without the girl cleaning up. But this was because of mutual understanding between the girl and the second guy, and no AO vaginal or anal sex was involved.
Doesn't happen that often but I've seen menstrual blood in FKK. On my dick (on the condom) and also on the bed, one girl happened to get her period while I was fucking her and the bed looked like a crime scene. LOL. Shit happens.
Google translate that: " In der Regel haben Wikinger rote Bärte. " LOL.
HB.
I recently (just this week) had big blood stain on the sheets with an FKK girl at Sharks. She said it was not her period (LOL) and that she had a recent operation and that bleeding had happened a few times. She claimed there was no hurt at all. However the blood seemed to have stopped, so I would assume my dick had just gone deep and stirred up the remnants of her period. It wasn't deep red. Rather diluted by lube I guess. She wanted to make a story that it wasn't her period. I don't really mind, but very sceptical. She could have had a little sponge inside to try to stop the blood coming out, but I did not detect it this time, so perhaps not, as it would have done a better job in stopping the blood.
As I have a condom, a bit of blood doesn't worry me too much. I don't have phobias.
Another possibility, but less likely, is a girl has a uterus problem or infection, but continues working. That would normally mean significant pain. My girl showed no signs of any pain at all.
Another possibility is warts having been surgically removed but not healed up completely. In this case, I would expect the bleeding to keep going and not stop so quickly, and be brighter red colour.
Other girls in the past with bleeding not at period time, often refuse me as a customer in the future, even if they previously sessioned with me many times. Just said I was too risky, even though a gentle type.
So to me, if girl is not concerned at all about the blood, then its bound to be her period, 99%.
Blood isn't a issue unless she start leaking when you perform DATY then you would look like a vampire, LOL.
Joke aside girls shouldn't be working during their periods. It's not fair and safe for them as they can pregnant also, haha jk.
Most girls work during their period. They can't afford to pause for four or five days. But some girls do.
HB.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1737010]Blood isn't a issue unless she start leaking when you perform DATY then you would look like a vampire, LOL.
Joke aside girls shouldn't be working during their periods. It's not fair and safe for them as they can pregnant also, haha jk.[/QUOTE]It's impossible for girls to take break of 1/4 of the time, they take pills and others to help get though, but it's still tough for them. If I happen to know my fav is in period, I try to be soft or just take her for a no sex session.
About the pregnant thing, once a girl told me she's unable to get the seeds, so she would even be happy if someone could get her pregnant. Yet I'm not sure if she's joking or not. It was not interesting to continue that topic with her.
I was thinking a break if money wasn't an issue. Guess that's not possible for most girls so no wonder they want 200 e / 30 min sessions.
Unable to get the seeds? Seems like a joke unless she actually tries to get preggy with her BF or anything.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1737031]I was thinking a break if money wasn't an issue. Guess that's not possible for most girls so no wonder they want 200 e / 30 min sessions.
Unable to get the seeds? Seems like a joke unless she actually tries to get preggy with her BF or anything.[/QUOTE]Sadly money is an big issue for WGs. and taking 1-2 days off every weeks is more practical than taking one week off every month
She said that's from her mothers family, female members have the possibility of infertility.
[QUOTE=Jhc1976;1730834]Hello,
I'll be travelling south through across the length of Germany from the Netherlands to Zurich in August and interested in checking out the FKK scene. Please could you help me identify a good club. Here's my checklist:
1. I'd like a club where most / all of the girls naked.
2. Looks are important, though so is having a good connection (I know this is subjective), but at least where the girls respond to this!
3. I'll probably be passing through on a Sunday / Monday. I could rearrange to include Saturday but that sounds like the most hectic day of the week.
Any thoughts,
Thanks,
Jack[/QUOTE]Since writing this, I have found from the Palace thread that Palace, Oase, Sharks, MH and World are all fully nude. These are a bit out of my way but not dramatically. It's looking like I will be visiting on a Saturday night, rather than the Sunday / Monday as suggested above. Any suggestions on which of these is likely to less hectic on a Saturday? I want a chilled / no-hassle experience with pretty, natural looking girls that aren't going to rip me off.
Thanks,
Jack
[QUOTE=Jhc1976;1737110]Since writing this, I have found from the Palace thread that Palace, Oase, Sharks, MH and World are all fully nude. These are a bit out of my way but not dramatically. It's looking like I will be visiting on a Saturday night, rather than the Sunday / Monday as suggested above. Any suggestions on which of these is likely to less hectic on a Saturday? I want a chilled / no-hassle experience with pretty, natural looking girls that aren't going to rip me off.
Thanks,
Jack[/QUOTE]If you are look for a chilled / no-hassle experience, then Saturday is not your day. Thses clubs are usually full on weekends; try Wednesday and Thursday perhaps, most girls attend and not so many men. Oase and sharks have the best LU on most of the dyas.
Since you know girls may rip you off, it already reduces the possibility of being ripped off. Tell what you are want and stick to it, you should be fine.
[QUOTE=Jhc1976;1737110]Since writing this, I have found from the Palace thread that Palace, Oase, Sharks, MH and World are all fully nude. These are a bit out of my way but not dramatically. It's looking like I will be visiting on a Saturday night, rather than the Sunday / Monday as suggested above. Any suggestions on which of these is likely to less hectic on a Saturday? I want a chilled / no-hassle experience with pretty, natural looking girls that aren't going to rip me off.
Thanks,
Jack[/QUOTE]The best club for newbies is World. Most reliable service with less attempt at upsell. Still possible to meet the odd aggressive girl, but the more aggressive the girl, the more you should avoid her. I won't try to change your day. If I go to World I would prefer a Saturday.
[QUOTE=Jhc1976;1737110]Since writing this, I have found from the Palace thread that Palace, Oase, Sharks, MH and World are all fully nude. These are a bit out of my way but not dramatically. It's looking like I will be visiting on a Saturday night, rather than the Sunday / Monday as suggested above. Any suggestions on which of these is likely to less hectic on a Saturday? I want a chilled / no-hassle experience with pretty, natural looking girls that aren't going to rip me off.
Thanks,
Jack[/QUOTE]In August, many girls are on holidays, for a Sunday visit, according to last year, Sharks, ask what you like to the girls before going to room.
What follows is my short summary of the various clubs I visited on a trip this week. Others will have different views to mine and there is no substitute for reading the various individual forums to get a wide perspective on what people think. These are very personal views:
Clubs visited: Artemis Berlin, World Giessen, Sharks Darmstadt, and Oase, Freidrichstdorf. The last three are considered to be "Frankfurt clubs" due to their proximity to Frankfurt. In fact two otherClubs, namely Mainhattan and Palace are far more central to Frankfurt but I didn't visit either of those clubs based upon my previous visits to them and the comment of others in each of their forums which warned me off.
Getting there. For Artemis this is very easy whether you drive, go by train or taxi. It is located in the Charlottenburg district of the city (on the outskirts). There are several hotels within walking distance the best two of which are the Romantik (aptly named!) and the Aspria. I prefer the latter for its fitness facilities and spa. Both are walking distance, reasonably priced with good rooms. Romantik is nearer but the walk from Aspria is about 12 minutes and easy with GPS. Cab back is 10 euros. Or walk again.
In Frankfurt. Sharks is an easy train ride from the Main Frankfurt Hbf but then when you get off you need a cab to the club. It is not walking distance and it's in an industrial area some way out of town. So you'll pay less than 10 euros on the train but will then have a 15-20 euro cab ride to the club. I got a cab there out of central Frankfurt because this time I was lazy. Cost 65 euros. Taxi back was also 65 euros. By all means barter with the drivers. Tell them you'll happily go to the train station instead and their prices drop. As has been advised here before. Don't accept a meter fare. World is the furthest club from Frankfurt. Based outside of Giessen. A pretty town. Train fare was 15 euros. Then again a cab. Think it was 20 including tip. I took a cab all the way back to Frankfurt after midnight. Was warned in the Club it would be 100 euros but after some haggling got it to 70 euros. Don't know how because the cab driver would have known I'd probably missed the last train (I'm not sure. I didn't check times).
Oase. Easy train for again I think less than 10 euros. Don't get off at Friedrichsdorf the nearest station. I've done that twice and couldn't get a cab without calling the club to send one out for me. Get off one stop before at Bad Homburg and get a cab. About 22 euros. By the time you've done both you might consider the 50 euros standard cab fare out of Frankfurt better value. I did. 60 euros return was lowest I could get.
Club entry fees; Artemis in Berlin is 80 euros. No discount if you arrive late as club is open till 5 am. Sharks was I think 70, World 57 and Oase 70.
Best club layout. For me: World. On two levels but fantastic outdoor area, great outdoor cabins, good square bar area for circuits to check out girls. Lovely downstairs area, great indoor and outdoor pools, good sports / TV area. Next. Sharks - big club where you can see all of the girls at once who are not eating or in the rooms. Worst layout. Oase - bit all over the place. Walk in, large staircae down to lockers. Change. Back up to main bar which is so dark you cannot see girls faces properly. Down a short corridor and round a corner or two to the wellness area (you could easily miss the massage area). Down some stairs to the restaurant and jacuzzi area. Outsider then and upstairs to gardens. Circuits not possible without looking desperate. You can chill in the bright area above the jacuzzi but just sitting there doesn't seem proactive.
Best LU. Impossible to say as these change frequently. Last year for me best was Sharks. This time it was the worst. Read the forums to be updated on the swings and changes on which club has the best LU at the time you intend to visit. What can be said is that Oase and Artemis regularly have 100+ girls then Sharks and World less. Quantity is not always quality though. I found the LU at World the strongest in Frankfurt. Despite the numbers being lower. For me, this time. The LU at Artemis blew the other clubs away. A lot of very pretty girls with slim bodies. A little unusual as Artemis has a reputation for the girls being a bit older and more PSE. It wasn't like that so much this time.
Food. Best was Sharks by some distance. Great options and well prepared. Worse was Oase by a mile. Truly awful and I refused to eat it.
Quality. Not that it really matters as ultimately you are there for the girls, but if you are going to spend 6+hours in one day at a club, it's overall decor, ambience and quality adds to your experience. World feels the most luxurious. More of a countryside retreat / oasis. The downstairs wellness area at Artemis is second to none though. Great indoor pool, lovely hammam, several sauna rooms and nice bar / sports tv area where the girls will watch the sports with the guys. The locker rooms at Sharks are like an old gym. Blue, cheap and tacky. Artemis are not much better. Oase and Wold are quality.
Best outdoor area. World by a mile. Wooded, secluded, large, great outdoor pool, outdoor cabins, beach volleyball area. Nicely mown lawns made it feel expensive. Next Oase despite the lawn NEVER being cut. A real shame. Still nice on sunny day with cabanas and some football games and table tennis table outside.
Rooms / zimmers. World's are the worst. It is surprising as everything else in the Club is impressive. The lack of air con is also poor there. Oase has a couple of larger good rooms but I find them a bit squashed. Artemis has good big rooms but I find them a little dark. Sharks has at the best rooms. As well as themed rooms downstairs (including an Egyptian and domination room) there are other perks to be had in the main upstairs rooms with little twists. Again some domination features in some rooms. All adds to it a bit.
Massage. Might not be for you but a great way to spend time recovering from a session. Best masseuse (I've tried them all in all of these clubs) is the dark non-asian lady at Oase. Excellent. Take an eye mask. The room is too bright. Only downside is it is a bit noisy. World. Rooms tucked away and quiet. Good male masseuse. Sharks. Older guy at back of club. Strangely quiet enough. You can here the awful club music but it sufficiently dampened. He is a good masseuse. Artemis. Really don't like that there are no rooms for massage. Two beds but next to the downstairs pool so every passer by gets to see you being massaged and you can here every conversation. Skip it. Ask to go to the Hammam instead. Roomed off, great service.
Music. Best at World. Next Artemis then Oase and last Sharks where they have about 5 tracks they play in a loop. Awful.
Best atmosphere. When there is a party / good vibe at Artemis it is hard to beat. The girls get into it as well. World is more chilled but has a nice relaxed feel. The football table at Oase can lend itself to some good socialising. And the girls play and are good! Sharks has no real ambience.
Ranking. For what it's worth, last year I ranked the Frankfurt clubs as follows: 1. Sharks 2 Oase 3 Palace 4 Mainhattan. If I rank my preferences in summer 2015, taking into account the quality of line up, the club, the service level of the girls, and all other factors, IMHO my rankings are:
1. Artemis.
2. World.
3. Oase.
4, Sharks.
As they say on here YMMV. The guys in the Frankfurt forums (not all but some) can be a little defensive about their clubs! No harm in that. I've omitted the clubs around Dusseldorf as I've only been to Living Room which is small but has a strong line up. Based on a visit some months ago, if it was considered in the above list it would rank at 4 pushing Sharks down to last again. So Sharks has gone from top to bottom for me. Which all goes to show it's personal taste and based on perception of the LU.
Hope some of this helps people thinking of entering FKK world in Germany. If you've never been it's great. As many have said, you'll never repeat the first time when you see 100+ naked women. It's thrilling. But the truth is also that it has a shelf life. Many of the guys in the forums go weekly. I'll be honest and say that I wouldn't do that even if these clubs were on my doorstep. I never thought I'd get bored looking at naked women but I did. And these clubs all have a dessous day where the girls wear some lingerie. But what these clubs lack is variety. 95% of the girls are eastern european. There are virtually no latinas from South America (who undeniably provide the best and most service you can get). I had one girl from USA in World - real surprise. There are few nationalities outside of Romania / Moldova / Hungary / Czech and Bulgaria at these clubs. The mystique of seeing a beautiful woman in a lovely dress or short skirt doesn't apply in these clubs as it does in Clubs in Spain, Dubai, Thailand, USA, Australia etc is nice. Sure you don't get nasty surprises (saggy tits/ fat ass) as you see it all in front of you. But there is something sexy about finding out as well and removing the apparel. IMHO a trip to FKK clubs once or maximum twice a year is probably enough. The model is based upon cheap sex (50 euros per 30 minutes or 60 at Artemis). The result is that the girls frequently want to upsell so that you are persuaded to do more time, or take services (CIM / anal) which you might not want. Suck and fuck is available in other parts of europe for 20 euros. Good looking SWs will do it in several countries. Look at the Madrid forum to see over 100 girls in one area who will offer this. For 50 euros they will give you the earth. At the other end of the spectrum are Switzerland and London. With high priced escorts not always worth the 250 euro fees. Switzerland also boasts FKK clubs whereas London does not. In fact London is a poor destination for mongering. Lots of escorts but all selected from websites with airbrushed pictures.
The upside of FKK is the experience of being confronted with lots of naked women. The downside it the lottery on service. Whilst that can be said of other places, Vive in Madrid for example might be 220 euros for one hour but it boasts 100+girls of which over 60% will be stunners with amazing figures. You get what you pay for in life.
If you've never done FKK and you like mongering then do it. It's a great experience. If you are in Berlin Artemis is the only choice. Berlin is a great city to visit. There is a lot to do. Dusseldorf is run down and not worth going to. Though Cologne is close and beautiful. Frankfurt is a business city and is boring and (mainly by the station) rough and dirty. Without FKK there is no other good reason to visit it. But it's worth putting on the radar once or twice because of the wide variety of clubs.
Having done it a few times in the last few years I'm signing off. I feel like I've done it and have no desire to continue doing it. I've no doubt I'll be back at some point but I very much doubt it will be this year. On to new adventures in new destinations. Without being disrespectful to anyone - Germany is not the best country in the world to visit either (Berlin excepted).
This latest trip was quite a disappointment and I'll be taking my mongering elsewhere. Though I'll still go to Artemis in Berlin in future as it is, for me, the best FKK experience of them all. World is nice but logistically badly located. But is a really nice club and I'd be very happy to plan a return trip there in good weather for the outdoors.
One thought which won't be well received (some people prefer to ignore reality) but is worth a mention: BBBJ is common in FKK clubs. If the girl gives a BBBJ to a guy before you and then gives you one. You are going to now have whatever STI he has. The notion of STI's being rare via oral sex is scientifically and factually rubbish. You'll get a lot of guys boasting "I've been doing this for 15 years and had 10,000 rooms and never caught a thing". Good for them. Same as the 90 year old boasting he / she smoked 50 cigarettes a day and is still living. Failing to mention the 25 of his / her friends in a graveyard who smoked less and didn't get so lucky. Moral of the tale. Enjoy your mongering but be careful. There is a reason why mongering in most other parts of the world requires protected oral sex. I spoke to one guy this weekend (a regular in FKK clubs) who had both gonorrhoea and chlamydia in the last year. Yes the girls get checked out (there is a physician present at Artemis) but they don't get checked after every session! Take your own condoms and insist on wearing them for BBBJ if you have a wife / GF at home. If you don't then go on and enjoy knowing that azithromax / azithromin together with ceftriaxone will cure the two most common STIs. If you think you only like BBBJ and not condoms you haven't researched enough. By Sagami condoms online. They are one sixth of a human hair and you will not know you have one on. You only get them online unless you live in Japan.
Finally, a word of thanks to all of those who have kindly offered advice, PMs, assistance etc in helping my own mongering experiences in Germany to be as good as they could be. There are some really helpful guys in these forums. Other forums are not so friendly. The Dubai forums are treacherous waters for the unwary. Those guys eat raw meat if you say the wrong thing! Sad. It's meant to all be about helping the sad souls amongst us (me included) who have become sexually addicted and cannot seem to kick the habit whilst telling ourselves we actually don't want to.
Any questions please PM me. Happy to give whatever other help I can.
Cheers.
PFI.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1737540]
One thought which won't be well received (some people prefer to ignore reality) but is worth a mention: BBBJ is common in FKK clubs. If the girl gives a BBBJ to a guy before you and then gives you one. You are going to now have whatever STI he has. The notion of STI's being rare via oral sex is scientifically and factually rubbish.[/QUOTE]This is not the safe-sex thread, so I'll be brief. I could not let these statements slide without a brief comment.
In my hundreds of Zimmers, most with BBBJ, I've gotten exactly two fungal infections, each cleared up with a topical antifungal agent. Regularly testing shows that I have never ever received an actual STD. This is not bragging as you refer to it, I am merely stating fact. With all the scare mongering about STDs here in the States and on the Internet trying to scare our teens, I was surprised at my luck. But, nevertheless, this has been my personal experience.
I understand there is risk involved here, but you are clearly overstating the risk. If the risk were as high as you suggest, then I would have caught plenty of STDs. The simple fact that I haven't, demonstrates that the risk is not so high as the certainty you suggest after all.