Kyiv

[QUOTE=Liljoey; 1163602]About Stephanie Glasson, I can see that her stringy muscularity is not sexy to you and you like softer curves and surfaces on a woman. At least I can understand how you differentiate her from others. To me she has a pretty face, albeit not structurally perfect.

But do you really not find Heather Renee Smith to have a very pretty face and wide hips and sexy curves to her body (other than the boobs issue)? It's hard for me to understand it. Are guys really so divergent in what they consider pretty? [/QUOTE]My friend, guys can be EXTREMELY divergent in what they consider pretty. (And so can girls.) Fortunately, I might add!

No, I don't find Heather Renee Smith much attractive; I agree, she has nice hips and her body is nice (leaving aside the boobs) ; but really I don't like her face. I don't like her eyes, I don't like the eyebrows, I don't like the lips much, and her nose is just, well, disturbing. I am not saying she is an ugly girl out of context, no no no! But she is miles and miles away from what I call a very pretty face.

And conversely, I am quite sure there are faces which, in MY opinion, border on the sublime, but which YOU would find unattractive. Was I not afraid that Jackson got aggravated if we keep posting pics that have nothing to do with the Kiev scene, I would attach a collection of what I consider very pretty faces: I am sure some of them would be not at all to your taste.

Slightly off topic but interesting. As a relative new member to typing on a forum this is getting interesting. Its good to hear the words of 2 "senior" members (whatever that means on this forum). I'm sure you'd both fuck each others previous girls without a second thought come end of day.

It's good to know the in's & out's of different places, different situations from others experience. & it is refreshing to talk a little outside of the box.

I hope more outside of the box relating to Kiev conversation will take place.

[QUOTE=Insomniaque;1163540]The o...r 10.[/QUOTE]Wow, I remember wacking it to those centerfolds from the 80's. Nice memories, wish I had pursued those types harder! Penny McGrath? Kimberly? Humm can; t remember the name.

BTW who are the black haired hotties?

Dear friends,

I plan a trip to Kiev starting from 18th June. I did not decide how long to stay.

What you think about Kiev during second half of June?

Will there be many freebies on clubs, bars, street? I am mostly interested in freebie action.

Zazdarvoya.

Guys, looking to do my own photo shoot or make my own amateur movie when next in Kiev. Does anyone know pretty girls willing to be photographed / filmed or any good agencies who can assist?

Please PM with details.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Hummer Bird;1163803]Wow, I remember wacking it to those centerfolds from the 80's. Nice memories, wish I had pursued those types harder! Penny McGrath? Kimberly? Humm can; t remember the name.[/QUOTE]Kym Malin. =) Miss May 1982. Maybe you were thinking of Kimberly McArthur? (Pretty awesome, too)

The twins are Sarah & Deisy Teles. Truly incredible babes, aren't they. I am not sure they have appeared in the US issue; I first spotted them in the Brazilian one.

Speaking of who is a 10 and who is not, I would be curious to hear what you fellows think about this specimen:

[url]http://flirt.com.ua/oksytka1/?afolder=albums&[/url]

From my point of view she is in the top 10 of the hottest girls on Mamba. I would quite happily sell my soul to the devil for that one. If I still had a soul, I mean. =)

Needless to say I tried to approach her. Without success. Has anyone here been more lucky? Would be curious to know.

[QUOTE=Crocodilechik; 1163883]Guys, looking to do my own photo shoot or make my own amateur movie when next in Kiev. Does anyone know pretty girls willing to be photographed / filmed or any good agencies who can assist?

Please PM with details.

Thanks[/QUOTE]An interesting topic. It had never occured to me that such "agencies" could exist?

When the chick is nice enough I always try to shoot; and most of the time, it works. Most girls will not go beyond softcore stuff (just like our dear centerfolds) , others will grant some more; but generally speaking I would say that girls do not mind a couple of photos.

Having said that, I never tried a movie. But I am quite keen on the idea. =)

Assuming that beauty is normally distributed, like height for example, for the scientifically challenged, it seems different men not only have different tastes, but use the 1-10 scale very differently.

Some might think that 10% of women of the group in question (e. G. 18-30, or 'normal', or 'working girls, or Kiev party girls) are 10s. 10% 9s. 10% are 8s, and so on. Others might divide the entire range into 10 groups with equal increments. Think of height instead of beauty and let's say that the range is 145cm to 195 cm, then 145-150 is 1, 150-155 is 2, 155-160 is 3, 160-165 is 4, etc. In that case, MOST women would be 4 and 5's and very few would be 10s or1s. Other men might use most of the scale for the upper range, so half (50%) are 1s, of the ones left half (or 25%) are 2s, of the ones left half (12. 5%) are 3s, of the ones left, half (6. 25%) are 4s, etc. Same could be used for thirds instead of halves. Or it could be some functional definition, where anyone good enough to have sex (while sober?) is a 5, and anyone with whom you would have a 1 in a million chance WITHOUT PAYING FOR IT is a 10. Other methods are possible, of course. Whichever system you use, you could define it using the women in your home city and then apply it to the women in Kiev, or you could develop and new scale for Kiev.

How we use the 1-10 scale, combined with the fact that men have different tastes, makes the scale a little pointless, even if we post dozens of photos of Playmates from decades past.

The real question is how do Kiev women compare with your girlfriend / wife or to the girls on the streets at your home city. I live in Eastern Europe. I will not say where, but I will say that in any major city in Eastern Europe (Kiev, Prague, Tallinn, St. Pete, Riga, Moscow, Warsaw.) women are far better than anywhere in North America and most of Western Europe. They are slim, stylish, elegant, exquisitely feminine and undeniably sexy. As long as you like or prefer Caucasian women, particularly blondes, and often with blue eyes, you will be impressed.

The original discussion was whether it is necessary to go to Rio and pay premium prices or find someone more reasonably priced on the streets or elsewhere. I think one of the great pleasures of living in Eastern Europe and visiting Kiev is the visual spectacle of an endless supply of gorgeous women. Unlike some other cities, one added benefit of Kiev is that, because of the economy, many of the girls are semi-pros and can be had for a modest fee. To me the babes on the streets are just as beautiful; others might disagree, but it is probably because we define beauty differently, and use a different scale.

[QUOTE=Stevie69; 1164114]Assuming that beauty is normally distributed, like height for example, for the scientifically challenged, it seems different men not only have different tastes, but use the 1-10 scale very differently.

Some might think that 10% of women of the group in question (e. G. 18-30, or 'normal', or 'working girls, or Kiev party girls) are 10s. 10% 9s. 10% are 8s, and so on. Others might divide the entire range into 10 groups with equal increments. Think of height instead of beauty and let's say that the range is 145cm to 195 cm, then 145-150 is 1, 150-155 is 2, 155-160 is 3, 160-165 is 4, etc. In that case, MOST women would be 4 and 5's and very few would be 10s or1s. Other men might use most of the scale for the upper range, so half (50%) are 1s, of the ones left half (or 25%) are 2s, of the ones left half (12. 5%) are 3s, of the ones left, half (6. 25%) are 4s, etc. Same could be used for thirds instead of halves. Or it could be some functional definition, where anyone good enough to have sex (while sober?) is a 5, and anyone with whom you would have a 1 in a million chance WITHOUT PAYING FOR IT is a 10. Other methods are possible, of course. Whichever system you use, you could define it using the women in your home city and then apply it to the women in Kiev, or you could develop and new scale for Kiev.

How we use the 1-10 scale, combined with the fact that men have different tastes, makes the scale a little pointless, even if we post dozens of photos of Playmates from decades past.

The real question is how do Kiev women compare with your girlfriend / wife or to the girls on the streets at your home city. I live in Eastern Europe. I will not say where, but I will say that in any major city in Eastern Europe (Kiev, Prague, Tallinn, St. Pete, Riga, Moscow, Warsaw.) women are far better than anywhere in North America and most of Western Europe. They are slim, stylish, elegant, exquisitely feminine and undeniably sexy. As long as you like or prefer Caucasian women, particularly blondes, and often with blue eyes, you will be impressed.

The original discussion was whether it is necessary to go to Rio and pay premium prices or find someone more reasonably priced on the streets or elsewhere. I think one of the great pleasures of living in Eastern Europe and visiting Kiev is the visual spectacle of an endless supply of gorgeous women. Unlike some other cities, one added benefit of Kiev is that, because of the economy, many of the girls are semi-pros and can be had for a modest fee. To me the babes on the streets are just as beautiful; others might disagree, but it is probably because we define beauty differently, and use a different scale.[/QUOTE]Very well said Stevie.

I used to travel to Kiev in 2003. 2005 and the memory of amazing looking women walking around Kreschatik still brings a smile to my face.

Never seen that quantity of beautiful women per square kilometer shall we say.

A big Hi to everyone on the Ukraine board. You guy's are the reason why people like me log on to ISG. So thanks for all the great reports and info.

[QUOTE=Insomniaque; 1160785 (I mean PERFECT) , limber curves. Miam, miam! Let us just hope that the face will be nice as well! And then she turned, and the world just froze. I raised my eyebrows and stared at her stupidly. It was not a downgrade. It was not an upgrade. It was a miracle. Soft face, nice lips, perfect eyebrows, and most of all, the most beautiful, tenebrious dark eyes I have seen in Ukraine. Just too damn beautiful![/QUOTE]She is perfect. Very beautiful, soft sexy 19 years old. I pushes her to DATY after a king time of tlak (if you don't accpet DATY no need to make anyhting. I give you taxi money and you go home) she accpeted. Good sex with a beauty. But not excpetional (CBJ she like sot suck and lick balls, no real DFK, no real DATY even accepeted. But good hot sex. She likes doggy and she likes hard sex.

Yesterday I did anal the first girl I met in Kiev from Mamba DANA. 100+ 50 (for anal). Good fuck. She is 8+ face, body 9+ tall 177 blonde, service 9 (dfk- DATY- bbj- anal.)

Dudes. I am in town for about 2 weeks. I just arrived yesterday. Anybody in town for a drink and some hunting.

[QUOTE=Me and You;1164401]She is perfect. Very beautiful, soft sexy 19 years old. I pushes her to DATY after a king time of tlak (if you don't accpet DATY no need to make anyhting. I give you taxi money and you go home) she accpeted. Good sex with a beauty. But not excpetional (CBJ she like sot suck and lick balls, no real DFK, no real DATY even accepeted. But good hot sex. She likes doggy and she likes hard sex.[/QUOTE]I see we had very similar experiences: good (but not awesome) sex with a perfect-looking girl. I got pretty much the same service (or lack of service). I am glad you enjoyed her beauty =)

[QUOTE=Insomniaque; 1163912]Kym Malin. =) Miss May 1982. Maybe you were thinking of Kimberly McArthur? (Pretty awesome, too)

The twins are Sarah & Deisy Teles. Truly incredible babes, aren't they. I. [/QUOTE]Fantastic Specimen there!

BTW anybody know who this girl is in the video, reminds me of the hotties here in this forum.

[url]http://www.badjojo.com/1103279/ria-sex-on-camera-1327mins/[/url]

I've been to a few, and this isn't it, at least based on last night. Admittedly, this was a Wednesday, but the reality is thgat my other experience with strip bars has been mid week as well.

There were a couple of really nice looking girls, some 8s and 9 s to me at least, certainly nothing more than that. I've seen as good or better in other venues, at least to me!

Having said that, it's a nice place where there is no pressure and the girls don't have any either! By that I mean, they feel no pressure AT ALL to put on a show of any kind! I've honestly NEVER been to a strip joint with less enthusiasm overall.

So I had three private dances. One was with the lone 8-9. Nice dance, felt and kissed her boobs and fingered her a little, but she spoke no English so I couldn't negotiate a deal to go home. Dance two was really with the hottest one of the group, but she fell short because she was shorter, about 5'6 I'm guessing. Totally hot, though. Still no go with going home! Last dance was a *****, no kissing to speak of, waste of time. Pretty good body, but when you take the three best girls in the place and you're already into the 7s and 8s what can you say? Not world class at all!

I've done Mamba and the women are mediocre at best. My best success is with local honeys that need a little spending dough. I have one sleeping here right now. 500 UAH and she does anything I want. Maybe a 5-6 by Kiev standards, but no hassles and she'll suck me dry and come back for more for the price of filling up an SUV in the states.

Anyway, I have been to a LOT of strip clubs, and this one (Rio) didn't cut it on this night. Not to say it wouldn't on some other night, but not now, and I've been to several strip clubs that NEVER disappointed, didn't matter the night.

SO my advice is try to stay more than a day or 2, spend a couple of weeks if you can, flirt on line a little, and you'll get it cheaper and (IMO) better and longer. Just my two cents!

[QUOTE=Hummer Bird; 1164468]BTW anybody know who this girl is in the video, reminds me of the hotties here in this forum.

[url]http://www.badjojo.com/1103279/ria-sex-on-camera-1327mins/[/url][/QUOTE]The first one to get nailed is Angelica Black.

[url]http://www.adultfilmdatabase.com/actor/black-angelica-45332/[/url]

I don't know the second girl.

FYI Angelica Black is also availabe for us mongers. Seemingly she is not making enough money with movies only, so she is also working in an escort agency (under the name "Elena") :

[url]http://www.x-companion.com/wm.asp?T=LG7d58Vk90:06102011095843AM:082245234062:1:XC:0:US&TP=0[/url]

My, what a greedy girl. =)

[QUOTE=KievGuy; 1163319]Yes, some have probably been answered. I'll be honest and tell you that, while I appreciate everyone's experience, what I value most is that you are willing to give immediate advice without forcing me through reams of data, much of which is useless to me personally. Thank you in advance for your expertise!

I DID look, just for the record, and saw your post about putting the money on the table, etc. I DID do exactly as you suggested, and it didn't work. She left. Not saying it happens every time. Obviously not for you. But it DID happen to me that way, and I'm pretty sure others who use Mamba will also get that experience. So maybe the difference was in the type of service? In the event, I did use the same Mamba escort service, paid up front, and got what I wanted, so it's all good.

Yes, you'll find a VERY SMALL number at 400 UAH, but that will be for basic service which is not my own personal requirement. And I doubt based on what I've heard here so far that anyone on these boards would be satisfied with what you get for under 400UAH. Certainly not getting good service from a 7 at that rate, IMO, unless you're OK with a ho-hum condom ride.

FYI, this isn't a "trip" for me. I live here, a point I thought I had made earlier. Maybe not. Now you know. I went by Buddha Bar and Arena today at 2PM. No one there at all. I'm sure this comes as no surprise, just trying to add to the information here. Arena. Ditto. I'll check out some other clubs and let you all know as I scope them out (what's with the "Red Lion"?). And yes, thanks for the wishes of good luck and I DO really appreciate the time you took to respond! [/QUOTE]Dear KievGuy.

Much of what I will write in this post is for the benefit of all readers, but it is also responsive to you in what you should pursue. But first let's go over the basics again, since you wrote,"I DID do exactly as you suggested, and it didn't work. She left." If I understand what you are saying, you told her that you are only willing to put the money on the table for her to take only when she leaves at the end of the session, and that she rejected this suggestion and demanded payment up front. At this moment you always have a choice. You can cave in to her demands to pay her up front, OR you can let her go.

At this moment of choice the strategy has already worked, in that it has served its purpose to provide you with information. It has revealed her mindset as a girl who is highly worried about getting the money up front into her purse. The girls with good faith should be satisfied that you are not a rip- off guy when you show them that you do have enough money available to pay them and that you are happy to place it out on the table for them to take at the end. If that is not enough for them, and they still insist on prepayment, then it raises the implication that their reason for insisting on prepayment is not just tied to their fear of getting ripped off by you, and there is more likelihood that it is because they do not intend to perform as promised. In which case it might be more prudent not take a chance to session with them.

However, the strategy itself doesn't demand you choose either course. It is merely a tool to reveal the girl's mindset. You can go either way. But now you can make your decision with an additional bit of information that indicates she is a bad risk. Now obviously it wasn't proven for sure that she will definitely rip you off. There is merely an implication indicating a likelihood that she will. Of course, there is also a possibility that the opposite will occur, and once you prove your good faith and give her the money up front and you are charming and she likes you, she may ultimately give you a good session, and you may be lucky. So you can either take the prudent non-risk course of letting her go, or you can decide to roll the dice and see what happens. I too have many times decided to take the risk and proceeded with the session in similar circumstances, relying on my charming and humorous personality and awesome DATY skills. LOL. To charm and pleasure her into reciprocating with a good session, and despite the possibility she harbored negative intentions originally. Sometimes I have been lucky and sometimes I have lost the gamble. Live and learn.

RECOMMENDATIONS FOR LONG TERM MONGERING

Now, since you are living in Kiev for an extended period, YOU are in the best position to find all the best options. Here is a link to my recent post that contains a survey of the Kiev options in the latter half of the report:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?816-Kiev&p=1162052#post1162052[/url]

In that post I collected, summarized and reviewed the information I had available to me from this thread and from my own experiences in my recent trips to Kiev on the following topics:

1. Strip clubs that have take out.

2. Nightclubs / bars that routinely have lots of Working Girls (WG's)

3. Internet advertisements for escorts.

4. Girl apartments.

5. Street action

You are in a unique position to pick up on these points and advance the information bank that we have developed on this thread because you have at your disposal what I did not have. TIME!

Time factors caused me to neglect girl apartments and street action options, and to limit my evenings to going to strip clubs like Rio and my days to some of the internet options. I was not able to make any appreciable investigation of the other possibilities in Kiev, but if I had more time there, I would certainly have wanted to check these options out more thoroughly.

My own decision to focus on Rio was based on cost factors and time—efficiency factors. The internet websites were full of bait and switch fake pictures, and girls who were not good looking were being repeatedly sent to my door from mamba. Ru and top-modals. Com, involving collosal waste of time in finding a good girl that way. Therefore, I preferred a method which allowed me to check the girls out in the flesh and see them before I chose, which was either nightclubs or Rio strip club. (Rio had a $300 take out option, whereas other strip clubs had been reported as having a $400 price). I felt Rio strip club represented the quickest way to find the very top level hot girls (9's and 10's only were of interest to me) in the shortest most efficient amount of time, and for the lowest cost currently available for such 9's and 10's. Rio's $100 / hr rates were better than the nightclubs in town, where the asking prices for the top looking girls (the 9's and 10's) had been reported on this thread to be much higher than $100 per hour. Also Rio provided a forum where the girls were all gathered in one place and it was much quicker to find what I was looking for than looking all over town in various nightclubs, where I would first have to differentiate between the regular girls and those who were "Working Girls" (WG's) and then try to talk to those who I found appealing and find out what their rates / services were. Even so, at first I tried two nightclubs, Avalon and Buddha Bar, but I didn't see any significant WG presence at the time of my visit, and that clinched my decision to not waste further time on the nightclubs options, and I focused on Rio for the evenings. Also Rio provided a way of messing around with a girl in a private dance to see what the physical chemistry might be like, which couldn't be done in a nightclub setting. The street options seemed like they would demand more time than I had to develop something. I also didn't pursue the girl apartments option during my last two trips because I had decided instead to use my day times to try a few girls from internet websites and there was only so much time available.

You, however, are not limited in time. And therefore you can afford to be more methodical in your investigations of the best Kiev options. You have indicated your preference for an uncovered BJ, but I don't know what your preferences are in terms of the looks of the girls. For my Kiev adventures, I was only looking for spectacular girls who were 9's or 10's, because a regular fuck with a nice girl I can get back at home. However, there are many guys on this thread who are deliriously happy to fuck with a nice—looking, slim, fit, doable girl who they got to have sex with for very cheap, like $50 or $60. So the focus you should take, will depend in part on what you are aiming for. To simply have an interesting and active sex-life and fuck some young decent looking student girls for cheap . Or are you looking to score some spectacular trophy fucks with very gorgeous model types of which dreams are made, for which purpose you may be willing to spend a little more,. Or a combination of both types of girls.

You should consider pursuing the following options:

1) GIRL APARTMENTS: Since you have the time, I would thoroughly "investigate and document" the girls apartments options. I believe this is where the Ukrainian guys go to get off. When I say "document" I mean to record and later to report on this thread the details about the addresses of the apartments, the prices, the services available, your opinion about the looks of the girls, etc. As I mentioned in previous posts, I located a taxi driver in downtown Kiev who said he knew places with girls, and I hired him to take me and go with me to such places until I could find what I wanted. I am sure you can locate such a driver who speaks a little English and make a similar deal with him to hire him for a set number of hours to take you to a bunch of apartments and stay with you so he can translate and provide some security for you in this endeavor. I also recommended that if you don't speak Russian, to prepare a list of prices and questions about services you may want to ask in 'yes' or 'no' format using an online language translator such as [url]www.translate.google.com[/url]. This way you can simply point to your list for the girl to read the item you pointed to and respond either yes or no. It will probably be difficult to get the really low prices Ukrainian guys pay and avoid the different pricing they apply to foreigners. It would also be worthwhile trying to find out where such apartments advertise, if they do, in local papers or the like. Then we could use such resources to investigate more of the apartments than the taxi driver might know about.

2.) STREET ACTION: Since you have the time, I would also think that you might put some time into trying to meet girls on the street, or in stores around downtown, as is being recommended by a number of writers on this forum. As many times as I have encouraged those guys who promote this approach to write about their experiences IN DETAIL so that others might benefit, they have failed to do so yet. So if you try, please write what you think about how to do this and how to select the girl to approach, where to do this best, how to successfully approach, how to avoid an embarrassing situation of propositioning a girl who is not a WG, what to say, how to lead the conversation, how to get the girl into your apartment, how to get things to the next level, how to make the first sexual move, or anything that could help guys of middle age who haven't been engaged in picking up young girls from the street for many years, get a better idea on how to do this.

3.) NIGHTCLUBS: There is also a great lack of in depth reporting about the nightclub scene. When I went to the Buddha Bar fro 10:30pm – 12, I did not see many working girls there and reported this. Others on this forum said maybe I had gone there too early, so I guess if you didn't see WG's in the places you visited at 2pm in the afternoon, it's also because it was too early for a WG presence. I intended to try Buddha Bar again at some point after midnight. I also tried Avalon and found nothing interesting there one night, so I went right away to nearby Rio strip club. But I have read reports about D'lux nightclub indicating many girls there who are working. Since you are in Kiev for an extended period you might want to identify all the nightclubs listed previously on this thread as good places for girls, and try them one by one, and report about the number of WG's you saw at each, their quality level of looks, the prices they asked etc.

4.) INTERNET GIRLS: the advantage here is the relatively cheap prices of 400, 600 or 800 UAH per hour (that's $50, $75 or $100) advertised for some internet girls. But if you don't like the situation of having to wait to see if the girl who shows up looks decent, then stick to the street action options or the girl apartments.

Mamba. Ru. The ads on mamba. Ru are too much in flux, (girls or agencies suddenly deleting profiles frequently and replacing them under new names, and girls or agencies using multiple duplicate profiles under different names) , for there to be much success in systematizing any reporting on girls there. It seems it is really a matter of luck for each monger. So you should join the rest of us and try your luck. Just know in advance that you will be wasting a lot of time because often a girl who looks nothing like the photo will show up and she will not be good looking enough. So you will need to send away the girls who show up who don't appeal to you looks—wise and hope that you will ultimately luck out and meet some girls who are appealing to you. Then after you session with a hottie that showed up by miracle, you should ask for their personal contact information and develop your own list of girls who you can call upon when the 'need' arises. It seems that most guys on this thread who do find a good looking prostitute in this fashion have decided not to share such contact info with others, which is a natural impulse, as I guess they don't want their 'girl' to become over—used and poked by every other guy on this forum, which in light of the girl's chosen profession is a little silly, but that's the way it is. So each guy will have to develop his own contacts. You might as well start the process as soon as you can. In a place like Kiev, it is only a matter of time before a hot girl shows up from an internet ad.

Top—modals. Com – same advice as for mamba. Ru girls. Keep trying as you will ultimately get someone good—looking enough showing up for a low enough price. There used to be some girls on the top—modals. Com website who actually existed and did use 'real photos' as the site claims. I met two of them two years ago, and they have been my back—up girls ever since then. They are not beauties, but are above—average looking sexy girls who give a good GFE session. I don't know what's the website's status now. On my last trip this past April, I called several numbers during the daytime, but got no one who spoke English despite the ad stating that the girl spoke English, which of course indicates I was dealing with an agency.

There are many other agencies with ads for escorts for reasonable prices that might as well be added to the list of the bait and switch agencies that should nevertheless be used, in the hope that at some point they will send a decent enough looking girl that you will not have to send away. I reported on my attempts at using [url]www.uadreamescort.com[/url] On my last trip. They first sent a girl who didn't measure up. Ultimately a good looking girl was sent.

The many internet agencies that advertise with prices of 150 Euro per hour, or 200 Euro per hour are too high priced, even if the girl looks like the pictures on the website, as there exists the option of Rio with rates of $100 per hour. But if those agencies will agree for a 3 hour rate of $300, similar to Rio, I guess they can be tried, if that is within your budget. I actually tried the [url]www.vodkaescorts.com[/url] Based on that analysis, since they agreed to a $300/3hours rate for my appointments with Julia and Inna of that website, about which I reported previously.

Good Luck, and remember to report what you discover.

LJ