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[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2;1145187]Agree with After School but not so much with LIA as maybe it's just bad luck but the last 3 times I've been there, I had runners and never went back since.[/QUOTE]got to agree that LIA is overrated. I think Duke has lost his touch with the girls. I had fun with this After School chick: local girl who had to go home by 10pm because her folks didn't know she worked in a bar. Well, so she said.
Spent an exhausting but otherwise exhilarating week in the vibrant sex enclave of the Archipelago. LOL. Went there to refresh my affinity for the filipina LBFM and ended up spending damn near the entire week with a mixed black-fili cutie I could NOT get out of my system. A few nice detours along the way, of course.
To wit; Luv den pics are the mixed beauty I fell in love with and Ms. D's a little dancer I paid the exhorbitant price of 1050 php from lunch one day to breakfast the next. They were both full service, bb all the way and full service short of swallowing. I went easy on them, LOL. I'm into another mid life crisis and regressing to pubescence permits me to take it any way I can get it.
I'm still hooked on black but between mixed girl, Ms D's and a nice Santos BJ row 8-9 I had my most feracious day of my life. Hat tricks from the first 2 and scored a double on the Santos BJ girl. That was my first day in country and I worked hard at this, deployed minimal funds and required a day or 2 of nursing by mixed girl to get me through my physical depletion.
I am happy to report this mid life crisis has passed.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1147915]AC won't go away, unless a nuclear bomb gets dropped right on the corner of Fields and Santos.
AC is merely evolving with the times and new economic realities.
Rising prices, by the way, are absolute proof that the bottom for girls is basically money, not "love" or "finding a nice guy" as many people on this forum have naively suggested. [/QUOTE]Actually what I mean is the girl. There will be more and more people come to AC even the price keep increase. The hotels is always fully booking. Airasia is going to build a hub there. Even a blind man know the biz will be getting better and better. But it is not like the good old times anymore. You can see many girl starting to smoking, tattoo, less long time, runner. The situation become worse, and you thought you are in Thailand now. The girl used to like non-alcohol, but I found that they like the beer more than the non-alcohol now, and they can finish the drink faster than me without any feeling. Their tummy getting bigger and bigger every time I visit them.
I don't mind the price increase, because other place will do the same thing too. But somehow their soul and attitude was polluted, and you can't get back the same old feeling even you are ready to spend lots of money.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1147915]Koreans are opposite of the Japanese. The Japanese are reserved, gentle and polite, almost to a fault. I have never heard a bargirl in AC utter a negative word about Japanese tourists.[/QUOTE]Some bar girl told me the japanese tips the girl P500-1000 even just a short time, and now you know why the japanese are so popular. They are indeed gentle, polite and even more generous than most of us. I notice some bar are superior to the japanese, one of the bar start with "A".
[QUOTE=Ekspat; 1147778]Sure? Here I somewhat disagree. I think most of the Koreans in AC are more the lower end of Koreans, from their behaviour and manners. Rich or even fucking rich upper class Koreans wouldn't go to AC, they can easily afford the prices in Seoul, Shanghai or Tokio.
Just MHO. [/QUOTE]
The fllowing excerpt support's Ekspat's point:
Korean visitors, students and "tourists" in the Philippines have been seen and observed as "too noisy, undisciplined and rowdy."
Because of their behavior many Filipino businessmen do not welcome the presence of Koreans in their establishments.
In Baguio City, for instance, Filipino golfers refer the former American rest and recreation enclave as "Kim Jong Hay" because there are more Koreans than locals in Camp John Hay.
A golf club in the northern part of the Philippines reportedly put a sign "Koreans are not allowed," a racist move.
[url]http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?no=374206&rel_no=1[/url]
[QUOTE=Malibu21;1148395] But somehow their soul and attitude was polluted, and you can't get back the same old feeling even you are ready to spend lots of money.[/QUOTE]
Their souls and attitude have always been the same. Do you think a young Pinay hooking up with an old white guy has anything to do with "feelings"?
The only difference now is, it's the white guy who's getting outbidded by the Koreans. 20 years ago, it was the white guys outbidding the local Pinoys for the ladies.
Being at the short end of the stick is why many of the "old guards" are complaining about the changes.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger; 1148605]The fllowing excerpt support's Ekspat's point:
Korean visitors, students and "tourists" in the Philippines have been seen and observed as "too noisy, undisciplined and rowdy."
[url]http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?no=374206&rel_no=1[/url][/QUOTE]
Are you aware you've just quoted some random dude's editorial? Anyone can get published on that "newspaper":
[url]http://english.ohmynews.com/reporter_room/qa_board/qaboard_list.asp?page=1&board=freeboard[/url]
I can understand the Filipinas preference for the Japanese. I have been told by many Filipinas that I knew that the Japanese men were very nice and gentle. In contrast, those that have been involved with Koreans, would rather not have that experience again. The Koreans tend to be rough with their women, especially when they are drunk. It is very common in Korea to see a man hitting a woman in public, and other people just passing by them as if nothing is going on.
Why shouldn't the Filipino business owners be racist toward the Koreans? In Korea, racism is very rampant toward any other nationality. Other than the fact that Koreans are known for dropping large sums of money while out clubbing, I would probably prohibit them from entering my business as well (if I had one).
[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1148066]She does look familiar.
My recollection is that she was a real performer who enjoyed her work.
You should have a great time with her.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Does she work at Pony Tails now?
[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1148066]She does look familiar.
My recollection is that she was a real performer who enjoyed her work.
You should have a great time with her.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Does she work at Pony Tails now?
I'm hoping to finally go to angeles next week.
Which are the better hotels, with pools and in good locations?
It sounds like the place is a blast, I'm tired of Cambodian non performers.
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1148682]I can understand the Filipinas preference for the Japanese. I have been told by many Filipinas that I knew that the Japanese men were very nice and gentle. In contrast, those that have been involved with Koreans, would rather not have that experience again. The Koreans tend to be rough with their women, especially when they are drunk. It is very common in Korea to see a man hitting a woman in public, and other people just passing by them as if nothing is going on.
Why shouldn't the Filipino business owners be racist toward the Koreans? In Korea, racism is very rampant toward any other nationality. Other than the fact that Koreans are known for dropping large sums of money while out clubbing, I would probably prohibit them from entering my business as well (if I had one). [/QUOTE]
Before many of you get carried away with this "Korean rudeness" stuff, I think you should think of it in perspective.
First of all, most of you who complain about their rudeness have never experiened it first-hand. It's not like Korean guys are going around picking fights on Fields or getting in your faces. I'd wager you're upset only because of their spending power and that you use second-hand stories of rudeness to justify your blanket hate / jealousy.
Koreans don't usually act "rude" to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] people off or show superiority. They simply don't say "please" or "thank you" much. They tend to be very direct and they rarely chum around with non-Koreans in bars like many non-Koreans would. This is part due to language barriers and part due to their non-touchy feely culture.
As for banning them, that's just absurd. Bars are in business to make money, not to promote world peace. As long as their behavior does not drive away overall net business, they'd be welcomed with open arms, especially in an impoverished country that depends on their spending power.
Ultimately, are they really that rude to drive other patrons and bargirls away? Clearly not. Many bars cater to them and many girls are now "Asian-only" (specifically, Korean only). So if the bars and girls have no problem with them (and they have to deal / sleep with them) , you shouldn't either.
I'd bet 99.9% of travelers to AC will never face any personal unpleasantness from Koreans. You'd face more unpleasantness from domestic Filipinos (scammers, annoying beggars, asshole cops, rude waitresses, etc). But clearly, you won't have a problem with them because they can't outspend you in a bar.
The bottom line is, Koreas won't mess with you and you won't have to deal with them unless you want to. In fact, I'd bet if you approach a typical Korean in a bar in a friendly manner, you'd find them to be quite friendly and charming. They're there to have fun, just like you.
As for your comment that, in Korea, it is "very common" to see a man hitting a women in public, all I'd say is, you are watching wayyyy too many movies.
And as for Korean guys being loud and obnoxious when drunk, are you sure that's only a Korean problem?
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1149188]Before many of you get carried away with this "Korean rudeness" stuff, I think you should think of it in perspective.
First of all, most of you who complain about their rudeness have never experiened it first-hand. It's not like Korean guys are going around picking fights on Fields or getting in your faces. I'd wager you're upset only because of their spending power and that you use second-hand stories of rudeness to justify your blanket hate / jealousy.
Koreans don't usually act "rude" to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] people off or show superiority. They simply don't say "please" or "thank you" much. They tend to be very direct and they rarely chum around with non-Koreans in bars like many non-Koreans would. This is part due to language barriers and part due to their non-touchy feely culture.
As for banning them, that's just absurd. Bars are in business to make money, not to promote world peace. As long as their behavior does not drive away overall net business, they'd be welcomed with open arms, especially in an impoverished country that depends on their spending power.
Ultimately, are they really that rude to drive other patrons and bargirls away? Clearly not. Many bars cater to them and many girls are now "Asian-only" (specifically, Korean only). So if the bars and girls have no problem with them (and they have to deal / sleep with them) , you shouldn't either.
I'd bet 99. 9% of travelers to AC will never face any personal unpleasantness from Koreans. You'd face more unpleasantness from domestic Filipinos (scammers, annoying beggars, asshole cops, rude waitresses, etc). But clearly, you won't have a problem with them because they can't outspend you in a bar.
The bottom line is, Koreas won't mess with you and you won't have to deal with them unless you want to. In fact, I'd bet if you approach a typical Korean in a bar in a friendly manner, you'd find them to be quite friendly and charming. They're there to have fun, just like you.
As for your comment that, in Korea, it is "very common" to see a man hitting a women in public, all I'd say is, you are watching wayyyy too many movies.
And as for Korean guys being loud and obnoxious when drunk, are you sure that's only a Korean problem? [/QUOT.
I tend to agree with you that some guys may be pissed off at their spending power, perceived or otherwise.
Now I have experienced first hand a couple of incidents of rudeness first hand, but nothing too extreme.
I lived in Angeles for about 14 months and I also had the pleasure of a Korean neighbor who although a bit odd by our western standards and a mean drunk, was still a lot of fun to know. Not only did he introduce me to all his friends but they took me out several times and they did not seem to have a problem with the white guy being there. One of his high rolling buddies bought the 3 of us a barfine plus drinks at Fantasy and there was no way he would take no for an answer.
On the high rolling part. Yeah these guys sure seem to have a supply of dollars. This neighbor routinely met small groups of his so called friends from Seoul and showed them around Angeles.
It was not unusual for these guys to drop 25, 000-100, 000 in 4-5 days. Mostly at the casinos but also decent amounts in local bars.
I doubt they represent the spending habits of all Koreans but this is my experience with them.
Like any other race some good and some bad.
LOL lets not forget that we are also not so nice to them either. I have a friend that TWICE by mistake tipped thanks god a different Korean customer in the toilet at MBC. God knows what must have gone through their minds but if someone did that to me I would be pissed off.
[QUOTE=Frank4220; 1149288]
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1149188]Before many of you get carried away with this "Korean rudeness" stuff, I think you should think of it in perspective.
First of all, most of you who complain about their rudeness have never experiened it first-hand. It's not like Korean guys are going around picking fights on Fields or getting in your faces. I'd wager you're upset only because of their spending power and that you use second-hand stories of rudeness to justify your blanket hate / jealousy. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1149188]As for your comment that, in Korea, it is "very common" to see a man hitting a women in public, all I'd say is, you are watching wayyyy too many movies.[/QUOTE]I dare say that my 11 years of living in Korea makes me a knowledgeable individual on the subject. I have personally witnessed the act of Korean men beating women in public. I was unable to do anything about it, because, as a foreigner, I would have landed myself in jail for attempting to protect the woman. I have also been witness to many accounts of blatant rudeness on the part of Koreans, both men and women. These are a people that feel they are better than all other nationalities because of their "5000 years of history," and they will proudly state that fact. I'm not saying that everyone of them is an asshole. But a large majority is. As Frank4220 pointed out, if you can make a friend with one of them, you will most likely be invited along to drink and take part in all activities of the outing at their expense. But don't think that you are going to walk up to them in their group and expect to be immediately invited to join in. Even in California, I once entered a bar that catered to Koreans. Everyone in the bar just glared at me as I walked in, and the bar maid asked "Why are you in here? You should go some other place to drink." Try to convince me they are not rude!
And, by the way, I was married to one of them for 22 years. So I have seen it from a completely different perspective than the average monger.
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1149430]But don't think that you are going to walk up to them in their group and expect to be immediately invited to join in.[/QUOTE]If I walked up to a group of white folks, do you think I'll be immediately invited to join in too?
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1149430]Even in California, I once entered a bar that catered to Koreans. Everyone in the bar just glared at me as I walked in, and the bar maid asked "Why are you in here? You should go some other place to drink." Try to convince me they are not rude![/QUOTE]I live in California. Would you care to tell me the name and location of this bar so I can verify your claims?
I think you're mostly spewing hot air.