Medellin Reports

Are you sure that gringo influx is really a major cause of the price increase and decline of chica quality? The fact that two things happened at the same time does not necessarily mean that one caused the other. When the sales of ice cream increases, the sales of beer increases, because the both are influenced by the temparature. The former does not cause the latter. Could it be the case that the economic growth and increased security in Medellin increased the amount of gringo travellers and reduced the size of sex workers, which decreased their quality?

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1204180]Gringo influx in this hobby is NEVER GOOD. A watering down of talent, gringos overpaying, prices rising is always the unfortunate outcome. ![/QUOTE]

Very good point MP. What I noticed and have been told by some of my favorita prepagos is that going abroad to earn USD is the way to go. Same job, way better pay, a bit of a struggle for my family but it's only for 3-6 months. Why make $120K a night pounding the pavement at Mayo when you can work in Panama, Costa Rica, Aruba, Peru and Ecuador and make $200-$300 per pop! 3 x a night= $900 more or less x 6 days a week x 30 x 3. 6 months equals REAL MONEY!

They can now come home and can now afford to buy the kids a Wii, flat screen, buy a car, start a business, go to school. WE need to make immigration harder for las chicas! Keep them in country, stupid, poor, and grateful for a good tip!

[quote=jimmy boy 99; 1204183]went to this place yesterday about 3pm. was shown about 6-7 girls. 3 of them doable, one of them, milena. 26 years old, supposedly one month in the business, very nice, could have worked at phase dos (i asked her why she didn't work there; she said she liked being with her friends there). confirmed the prices (32k for 30 minutes. 42k for 45 minutes, and 52k for an hour. asked if i went for the 30 minutes and wanted to extend, could i just pay the difference between the two rates and was told yes. chose milena and went to the room. asked if the sheets could be changed and she did. took a shower and started the action. cbj (nice) and ball sucking, then sex in various positions. the knock came at about 30 minutes so i asked her if she wanted to stay longer. she said up to you so i said let's extend for another 15 minutes. she tells the woman in charge and is told that it will be 20k for 20 minutes. i told her that was not what was agreed on. after some haggling, we agreed to 20k for another half hour. we went at it again and finished in the allotted time. nice girl and good service- took a pounding without complaint. got dressed, gave her a tip (10k which covered the beer she had asked for) , was given a kiss, and asked to come back and see her.

about 50 yards from the casa, i was accosted by someone who flashed a police badge and said i had to come with him to police station because i had been with an **** girl. i told him that was not true, she was 26 years old. he went on about how i would be arrested and held in jail for 72 hours and then deported. i told him let's go back to the place so she could show him her cedula and started to walk back to the casa. he said no, we had to go to the police station because i was in a house where they had an **** girl. i told him i didn't see any **** girl, and how was i to know if they had one. according to him, it was a crime to be in there, even if i didn't know. (during our discussion, he was talking into a microphone with what was presumably the police station.) we started walking to the police station, with him telling me that he could help me but not once we reached the police station. on the off-chance that he was for real, i decided to give him 5k to get rid of him. i took out my cash and couldn't find a 5k bill. i told him i didn't have a 5k note so lets go to the police station. he then asked me if that was all i was going to give him. i said yes. apparently, he was insulted at the offer and took out his wallet to show me it was filled with 50k notes. (apparently the shakedown business is doing well). he then told me to not go there again and he let me go.

i don't know if he was a real (bad) cop or someone with a fake badge, but it seemed evident that he did not want to take me to the police station, presumably because it was a bullshit charge. however, it was unsettling enough to make me reconsider going back to the place, although i would have liked to see milena again.[/quote]almost for sure he was not a cop. familiarize yourself with what the real cops and military wear for footwear then when you are approached by what appears to be a fake look down and see what they are wearing for shoes, a dead giveaway every time.

if you want to go back there and don't want to get hassled again take a taxi.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1204231]Almost for sure he was NOT a cop. Familiarize yourself with what the real cops and military wear for footwear then when you are approached by what appears to be a fake look down and see what they are wearing for shoes, a dead giveaway every time.

If you want to go back there and don't want to get hassled again take a taxi.[/QUOTE]I was just thinking the same thing. Shoes and the shave are my clues. What would a Detective in Colombia care if some gringo was with a young girl? He'd be too busy with REAL crime in Colombia. Military too.

My tip; If you have decent Spanish skills say something more or less like this "Please! A guy in a better suite just tried the same trick on me." or "Come on! I used to live in ____ and they tried to pull the same scam; move on!"

Doesn't matter what you say; it's how you say it!

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1204180]Jaxon while I respect your mostly spot on opinions of the current situation in MDE. It sucks and those of us who have been going there 6 years plus know this, but you are not reinventing the wheel. With the onset of social media, things and places get exploited very quickly. Gringo influx in this hobby is NEVER GOOD. A watering down of talent, gringos overpaying, prices rising is always the unfortunate outcome. That and along with the Colombian economy stable and improving will always sacrifice the hottest prepagos out of the game first.

So whats a concerned monger to do? Keep your mouth shut if you find some place or someone new. I don't know how long you've been following this forum or which # handle this might be for you but if you've been around you will notice many many prior member posters who do NOT post on here anymore.

One thing I can guarantee you though is that I still have my places and chicas who are humble and will gladly accept 60k-80k for an honest TLN (no not go home with you at 4am and leave at 8am) and give me many thanks for doing so. Live and Learn![/QUOTE]Right on Heat, hard to argue with your assesment.

This past trip to MDE I did more TLN than usual. An old hand who stayed across the hall from me noticed this, and said to me " you know you are paying them to sleep "

I wondered how I had not realized this. Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees. I think in the future the only TLN's will be if I wife up for more than one day.

I see quite a few reports on Mayorista lately. It is funny how there are such different opinions on the merits of this area when in the other aspects of MDE there is more of an agreement in service that is to be had. At the Mansion it is almost agreed that for most guys it is a good experence. Also casa's like New Life, and strip clubs like Fase Dos all have the same type of reports. I wonder why the Mayo has such a strong reaction from ( pro or con) most Mongers?

[QUOTE=Ricker;1204250]Right on Heat, hard to argue with your assesment.[/QUOTE]I was going to pour my heart out into a long well thought out rant but I just don't have it in me. Why? I have been spending hours and hours lately researching affordable pfp opportunities still available in Latin America. You don't want to see the results trust me.

If MDE goes down the tubes there will be panic in the LA monger world. At least for guys on a budget. Get your yankee hats on and head to sosua!

I for one don't have many choices left for what I like to do. Hoping and praying for a revolution somewhere.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1204253]I was going to pour my heart out into a long well thought out rant but I just don't have it in me. Why? I have been spending hours and hours lately researching affordable pfp opportunities still available in Latin America. You don't want to see the results trust me.

If MDE goes down the tubes there will be panic in the LA monger world. At least for guys on a budget. Get your yankee hats on and head to sosua!

I for one don't have many choices left for what I like to do. Hoping and praying for a revolution somewhere.[/QUOTE]Many years ago there was great P4P in my hometown. Myself, and 3 or 4 other guys had girls that we shared, and when a new one came along we would spread the word to each other. I got married, and was out of action till quite a few years went by, and I returned to try to monger again in my hometown. It was a barren waste land. The only thing out there was ugly crack hoes. When the pickens were good, the job situation was good with most people having jobs. Now that a lot of people are out of work, and times are getting tough in the USA you would think P4P would be OK.

As far as the guys in LA, they can still go to Tijuana. Sure the girls are more expensive than MDE, but the cost of the airfare to MDE more than makes up for that.

I like Sosua a lot (Classico) , but the girls as a rule are not as bonita as in Colombia, and because of the fine beach it makes for lodging, P4P, and food to be more costly.

In addition to financial considerations, doing TLN increases your risk profile considerably, JG. Artie boy, one thing you got to realize is that the places that are going to pop up in your research will tend to be the more expensive ones by the very nature of the research process. You might have to go to places way off the beaten path, like Guatemala.

Oh, wait a minute. You did. So you want cheaper than [B]that? [/B] I read where Alabama just passed a really strict immigration law and they were talking about how all the illegal immigrants in this one trailer park were afraid to go to work or leave the house during the day. I see some potential there as desperation increases. Now México could have a revolution pretty soon but I think the drug boys will win and will probably come to control all the pussy and prices will actually go UP.

It is for sure a dilemma for the budget monger. Paraguay was a decent value but it costs a shit load to get there from the US. Chile could collapse pretty soon, I think, or you could try that area in Argentina that got fucked over by the volcanic ash, Villa La Angostura, which was very nice and pretty cheap before that happened. All the tourism is gone so supply should exceed demand by quite a wide margin.

Or go to the Motel Six Suites in Albuquerque, NM. Place was full of hoes when I was there for a night in January. $29 a night for the room if you pay by the week, full kitchen, pots and pans, etc. I was on my way back from Costa Rica so was not too interested but they had a couple of decent looking Latinas there. I was quoted $50 for TLN,"my place or yours," and $20 for a quick pop. I will be there around New Year's for a week before I head to my next job and will report. High probability of drug addiction, though.

I am unemployed now and it will be a total of 4 1/2 months out of work (then another month to get paid) so I will start a "Budget Mongering" thread in the Special Interests section.

Upon further review, there is a Prices thread so let's use that.

[QUOTE=Dickhead; 1204261]Artie boy, one thing you got to realize is that the places that are going to pop up in your research will tend to be the more expensive ones by the very nature of the research process. You might have to go to places way off the beaten path, like Guatemala.

I will start a "Budget Mongering" thread in the Special Interests section.[/QUOTE]I already know that this will be a good thread once you start it. At least I will have someplace formal to ***** about my financial woes.

Guatemala was great for 3 weeks last December but when I went back in Feb it had run it's course for me. You get what you pay for. If I had to go through another 3 weeks of Guate again I might consider a noose. Everything besides a few bars and a McDonalds close at 7pm. It drove me nuts. I can't and won't torture myself like that for pfp. Maybe for 1 week eventually. Same goes for San Salvador and all the other CA operations.

New Mexico and all those southwest border areas excite me but knowledge is key and I assume not easy to obtain for an outsider. If things weren't so bad in Laredo I would be checking out that entire texas border region. Just too bad.

Quito Bogota La Paz = Altitude issues. Never again! I never recovered fully even after 3 weeks in Quito. When I came my heart felt like it was cumming out of my chest. That was way too scary for me.

I want Lima or BA 5 years ago. Those were the best days for me hands down. You are correct when you say pfp is available out west. Actually if you look at escort reviews middle america is doing quiet well in that department. However in NYC pfp is a BS scam up sells lazy hags gringa mentality. A quick romp to Montreal would be a better option perhaps@180 US per hr. For beautiful white meat. Unheard of in NYC. Thank you Greyhound for $73 one way tickets to Montreal. Now to find an affordable hotel with heat.

I will take it trip by trip at this point. I cannot plan too far ahead these days. Tijuana is my default location. More of my money and effort has gone to Tijuana these past 2 years and I still haven't done a bargirl. The party vibe and great food keeps me happy. Every now and then a meth head will eat *my ass for $20. Life is not bad for me down there as long as I have a valid prescription and I don't reek of alcohol.

Johnny:

There should be something for you but maybe not in your price range. You should try to investigate more.

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1204252]This past trip to MDE I did more TLN than usual. An old hand who stayed across the hall from me noticed this, and said to me " you know you are paying them to sleep "

I wondered how I had not realized this. Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees. I think in the future the only TLN's will be if I wife up for more than one day.

I see quite a few reports on Mayorista lately. It is funny how there are such different opinions on the merits of this area when in the other aspects of MDE there is more of an agreement in service that is to be had. At the Mansion it is almost agreed that for most guys it is a good experence. Also casa's like New Life, and strip clubs like Fase Dos all have the same type of reports. I wonder why the Mayo has such a strong reaction from (pro or con) most Mongers?[/QUOTE]Going to disagree with you and your "old hand" on this one good buddy. TLN does not pay them to sleep, it pays them to leave on YOUR time clock, not on theirs. In the long run, it is far cheaper. TLN often runs about 30-40 percent more than an hour or two in most places I have been. If I start off a TLN at 9am, have one session, another at midnight or after, and then one in the morning, the price per nut is FAR cheaper. Also, for 20 or 30 bucks extra (max) I am in control of when the session ends. If I do that 5 times over the course of one week, that that 100 bucks is a very small percentage of my total trip cost, counting airfare into the equation.

Most importantly, for me, I get sick of them, I send them home when I want, as opposed to them being in control of time. If I have a all night fuck fest I will spend far less on chicas during the day. If I get sick of them in a few hours, then I can send them home, but I am the one deciding how often we will fuck and how many times. I like to take the pressure off and just enjoy myself. Also, for me, a TLN is more likely to be more intensly GFE and a shorter session. Of course, YMMV. Some guys get board with chicas for more than an hour or two- I usually find a way to entertain myself.

Guate sounds like Paraguay. But I bet the gals in Paraguay are better looking on average. But it is a fuck of a lot farther. On that altitude stuff, maybe quit smoking? I had no significant altitude issues. Isn't Medellín like 4500 feet? I like a lot of things about Quito but the mongering is like a C minus. OTOH sitting in SP beating your meat is a D minus. Kinda confused; are you in New York or Los Angeles?

When I spent five weeks in Medellín in 2007 I hoped the city would be as interesting as Bogotá and the pussy would be as good as Buenos Aires. Instead I thought the city was as good as Peoria (but with better weather) and the pussy was as good as the Moonlight Bunny Ranch (but cheaper). I thought it would be about as dangerous as Buenos Aires or Bogotá but instead it was like being in the middle of a drug war in Cuidad Juarez.

Anyway, let us not derail the thread. I will PM you with some stuff and I have tried to re-ignite the Price thread. Also the Yankees lost and I would say, conservatively, fuck them and the donkey they rode in on. I grew up in Pissport Connecticut so I can say that stuff.

[QUOTE=Psychman; 1204282]Going to disagree with you and your "old hand" on this one good buddy. TLN does not pay them to sleep, it pays them to leave on YOUR time clock, not on theirs. In the long run, it is far cheaper. TLN often runs about 30-40 percent more than an hour or two in most places I have been. If I start off a TLN at 9am, have one session, another at midnight or after, and then one in the morning, the price per nut is FAR cheaper. Also, for 20 or 30 bucks extra (max) I am in control of when the session ends. If I do that 5 times over the course of one week, that that 100 bucks is a very small percentage of my total trip cost, counting airfare into the equation.

Most importantly, for me, I get sick of them, I send them home when I want, as opposed to them being in control of time. If I have a all night fuck fest I will spend far less on chicas during the day. If I get sick of them in a few hours, then I can send them home, but I am the one deciding how often we will fuck and how many times. I like to take the pressure off and just enjoy myself. Also, for me, a TLN is more likely to be more intensly GFE and a shorter session. Of course, YMMV. Some guys get board with chicas for more than an hour or two- I usually find a way to entertain myself.[/QUOTE]I do not post often, but I do read the board quite often. I did not have a wingman this trip so I flew solo. I am having a wonderful time. My comment is about Psychman and he is the most level headed and non polarizing person on this board. He tells it straight and is very accurate. I am currently in Medellin, La Mayorista as we speak. Yes it is noisy even as I type this thread. But here are the current facts. I went to Fase Dos on Thursday night, stayed about and hour and told one chica to come by after she got off. She was hot, had a great attitude, drank my fridge dry and was a fantastic GFE. It was TLN and it was cheaper in the long run as Psychcman has stated. On to the chicas of Mayorista. Wednesday was dead completely. No hotties in the afternoon. In the evening about 1 or 2. At night I did not know, I was with my amignovia. Thusday during the day about the same as Wednesday and at night before heading to Fase Dos a few cuties, but one or two real hotties. Last night I was with another amignovia, but sent her home to have some fun with La Mayo chicas. Last night there were several extremely hot women; by several I am saying about 15-20. There were of course the usual fatties and druggies. There was also a nice selection of cuties. If it is was like Friday every night I think the polarizing opinions on Mayo would be completely different. It is always a question of your particular choice. As far as safety is concerned in Mayo, it is completely fine. I have never had a problem. Obviously be aware of your surrounding, don't be the last gringo on the street and do not let others see you sloppy drunk. Save that for the comfort and security of your room or apartment.

All in all it is a great trip. The beer is good, the woman are great and (inexpensive). One suggestion if you join a dating website and are very discerning, you can have a hottie and only pay her with your attention and a few meals. Of course it is TLN if you want and furthermore after knowing her a while it can be "sin condon"

Cheers

Any mongers in Medellin right now that need a chica. I have one chica who desperately need work. PM me for her cell number.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1204544]Any mongers in Medellin right now that need a chica. I have one chica who desperately need work. PM me for her cell number.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]You have one? There's at least a hundred thousand.