Sauna Reviews

Night #5 @Rio - back home again
Wanted the body scrub and did not let the girls offer me the service: I asked for it.
A cute and talkative Bali girl. Fun to talk, she plays with the jewels for 1 minute (house orders again, she was open to explain)
she has a biyfrind back home who, of course, does not know what she does.
She is ok in doing this as does not involve sex (sure? ehmm... I did not pursue extras of after hours as anyhow I was leaving in the morning).
And she does that for money!
Couldnot say bye bye to macau with another warming up vein massage, 1 session only as anyhow nothing much happens even if you double. so now I use it for what it is: a teaser. There was only one girl available at that moment and I took the 2nd: the stroker...
Planned a body massage for farewelll night, Ended up with oil massage with HE/HJ.
Nice and cute Guanzhiu girl, #666, contrary to night #3, she remained dressed all the time and performed a very detailed body massage, first dry with towel on skin, then rose scented oil.
Asked her to soften a bit the massage as in some areas she was a bit on the hard side.
She complied. A
fter hot towel cleaning she played with litle john and brought it to an heppy end, while she let my finger browse on her tight and fury pussy, becoming naturally wet.
I did not force, just enought to enjoy (me) the touching.
After the HE she carriedd on the last part fo the message, with no rush at all.
Left after some time with no other services taken.

Total damage 1271MOP.

For a total of nearly 7000 MOP for 5 nights: acceptable as Macau does come in my agenda only once a year!
I definetely need to get out of the Rio syndrome and explore the other venues next ime, or I will really get the Senior Supporter card at Rio, LOL

After my last trip to Macau, I developed some quesions. These apply to three saunas: Rio, East Spa and 18. I would appreciate any information any members can supply.

1. Thigh Massage: I really enjoyed the thigh massages I had at Rio and East Spa. At East Spa, a Thai girl gave me a very sensous thigh massage that ended with a great hand job. She told me that she wasn't supposed to make the customer come, but in my case it was OK, because I had already had the main course. If I had not already had full service, do you think she would have made me come? What has been your experience with the thigh massage girl making you come without having a main course. At Rio, a sexy young Vietnamese girl gave me a very sensuous thigh massage, then started to rub my cock. I told her not to make me come, because I wanted to be ready for the main course. She said OK, but I think she would have given me a HJ had I asked her. Bionicman and others said the thigh massage girls at Rio would not make a customer come. What has been the experience of others at the three saunas? At Rio, East Spa and 18, do the thigh massage girls make you come and does it make a difference whether it is before or after the main course?

2. Body Massage: I was interested in getting a body massage plus a HJ, but at Rio, I think they told me that the massage did not include a HJ or any sex. I think the price was around 750 HK, so I passed. At the three saunas mentioned, what was the price, how was the massage, how long and did it include a HJ? What did the masseuse look like?

3. Entrance Fee: At Rio, they told me the entrance fee was about 450 HK, but it would be waived if I had full sex. The entrance fee included food and use of the pool and sauna and relaxing. Would the entrance fee be waived at any of the three saunas if I didn't have full sex, but had only a thigh massage or other services such as a pool session, etc?

4. Visit to Hotel Room: I stayed at the Sofitel, so there was not a sauna there and it would be difficult to pay me a visit across town. Bionicman mentioned that a massuese paid him a visit to his room after hours. He said the service was OK. I'm thinking about staying at the Rio Hotel next time or another hotel with a sauna, so that a girl could pay me an after hours visit. One difficulty was that the girls I talked with could not speak much English, so I don't know if I could communicate enough to arrange an in-room visit. Do many of the sauna girls speak English? For those of you who have had in-room visits, how was the service? How much did it cost and what was included? What hotel/sauna did you go to?

5. I found the full sex at Rio to be very satisfying and the papasan told me that all the girls gave good service because they were all trained the same way by a female trainer. One ISG member said that sometime, the trainer is in the line-up and you can go with her. Has anyone else tried this and what were the results?

6. Lisboa Racetrack: I did not visit the Lisboa racetrack, but members seem to say that the girls are beautiful, but the sex is not very good. Also, they don't speak much English. Please let me know what your experience was like.

7. Venetian Free-lancers:
I walked all over the Venetian Hotel looking for free-lancers, but I didn't find any or at least any obvious ones. Has anyone had a good experience with a FL? Where did you find her and how did you enter into negotiations?

Thank you very much.

Canyon

[QUOTE=Canyon]After my last trip to Macau, I developed some quesions. These apply to three saunas: Rio, East Spa and 18. I would appreciate any information any members can supply.

1. Thigh Massage: I really enjoyed the thigh massages I had at Rio and East Spa. At East Spa, a Thai girl gave me a very sensous thigh massage that ended with a great hand job. She told me that she wasn't supposed to make the customer come, but in my case it was OK, because I had already had the main course. If I had not already had full service, do you think she would have made me come? What has been your experience with the thigh massage girl making you come without having a main course. At Rio, a sexy young Vietnamese girl gave me a very sensuous thigh massage, then started to rub my cock. I told her not to make me come, because I wanted to be ready for the main course. She said OK, but I think she would have given me a HJ had I asked her. Bionicman and others said the thigh massage girls at Rio would not make a customer come. What has been the experience of others at the three saunas? At Rio, East Spa and 18, do the thigh massage girls make you come and does it make a difference whether it is before or after the main course?

2. Body Massage: I was interested in getting a body massage plus a HJ, but at Rio, I think they told me that the massage did not include a HJ or any sex. I think the price was around 750 HK, so I passed. At the three saunas mentioned, what was the price, how was the massage, how long and did it include a HJ? What did the masseuse look like?

3. Entrance Fee: At Rio, they told me the entrance fee was about 450 HK, but it would be waived if I had full sex. The entrance fee included food and use of the pool and sauna and relaxing. Would the entrance fee be waived at any of the three saunas if I didn't have full sex, but had only a thigh massage or other services such as a pool session, etc?

4. Visit to Hotel Room: I stayed at the Sofitel, so there was not a sauna there and it would be difficult to pay me a visit across town. Bionicman mentioned that a massuese paid him a visit to his room after hours. He said the service was OK. I'm thinking about staying at the Rio Hotel next time or another hotel with a sauna, so that a girl could pay me an after hours visit. One difficulty was that the girls I talked with could not speak much English, so I don't know if I could communicate enough to arrange an in-room visit. Do many of the sauna girls speak English? For those of you who have had in-room visits, how was the service? How much did it cost and what was included? What hotel/sauna did you go to?

5. I found the full sex at Rio to be very satisfying and the papasan told me that all the girls gave good service because they were all trained the same way by a female trainer. One ISG member said that sometime, the trainer is in the line-up and you can go with her. Has anyone else tried this and what were the results?

6. Lisboa Racetrack: I did not visit the Lisboa racetrack, but members seem to say that the girls are beautiful, but the sex is not very good. Also, they don't speak much English. Please let me know what your experience was like.

7. Venetian Free-lancers:

I walked all over the Venetian Hotel looking for free-lancers, but I didn't find any or at least any obvious ones. Has anyone had a good experience with a FL? Where did you find her and how did you enter into negotiations?

Thank you very much.

Canyon[/QUOTE]My reply to some of your questions

1 It really depends on girls and it would be safer for them if you had your FS main course already, after all, it is forbidden for them to offer you HJ, a few girls would do so regardless, because they want to earn extra bucks or they do not want to give a proper thigh massage. Some girls would only offer HJ if you go for more than 3 sessions or if you have used their services a few times. In Rio as well as in other venues, all the above have happened. But my info is more than one year old since my last visits to Macau was March 2008.

2 You can go for Shanghai style or back-scrub, without having FS. I think that's what Bionicman did. I did so too, but talking to Papa-san might help. But I normally got my HJ by thigh massage alone, because I had 4-6 sessions each time and I also tipped sometimes when extras (showing tits or pussy etc) were offered.

3Can't remember. But if you buy your FS coupon in HK, it is inclusive.

4 Yes, Rio would be convenient for room visits. If you speak English only, your choices would be more limited. I only called thigh massage girls to my room, since they could do more than HJ or showing a bit more in the saunas, otherwise, if you could get FS in the saunas, there would be little point in calling them to your room, unless you were prepared for several rounds of sex or some thing more kinky which is harder to find in Macau except among thigh massage girls.

Thank you, Bluerose. The information was helpful. I hope there are more responses.

[QUOTE=Canyon]After my last trip to Macau, I developed some quesions. These apply to three saunas: Rio, East Spa and 18. I would appreciate any information any members can supply..................

Thank you very much.

Canyon[/QUOTE]

Bluerose gave you some hints already and some other you got from me via the report
Anyhow to go more specific and based on my own exprience and understandings:

1) I got a thigh massage in nov 2008 that ended in a HJ having booked a 2nd session (as an extension of the 1st one that got me veeery horny!) The lady was fully dressed, kindly unbuttoned her "clinic uniform" top, but not much. She was in her mid 30's, and the experienced was fully there, superior service indeed. See my report of last year. She repeated she was not supposed to make me cum, but did so (= I thought it was a bit of an excuse to save face). No tip was given.
I tried again a few times this time and results are in the previous posts: no HE. There were 3 girls doing the job and I tried two of them. I missed the 3rd, she seemed appealing, but do not forget: they are there to arouse you,. Even those not giving HE, did try to play sexy rubbing her leg on your crotch when entering the room.
My understanding is that there are quite strict orders on getting the customer horny but not finishing him so he then goes to the body massage where the money is good for the establishment. I gathered this from the body scrub girl too when talking ot her.
I did not explore afterhours opportunities in my room, 'though. Maybe some girls are not into having FS and happy of the money they can make in thigh massage. At the end of the day, this way they do not wear out their pussies...:)
I do not know if they can bring you to the end if they know you already paid for other services such as body massage (= the goal of the sauna has been reached: you spent some quality monety with them). Fact is, how can she be sure you did or didn't?

2) There is indeed a bit of confusion on the massage services and their names at Rio, unless you are familiar.
Last year I asked for the Shangai massage and the papa-san said: 90 minutes of oil massage with HE, the girl we chose and stay dressed. Room had tatami (=ground bed)
This year I asked for oil massage 90 minutes and I got the typical massage table, the girl remained dressed, had all my hard work to convince her to finish (with the promise of extra money in her afterhours).
Not happy abou that oil massage with no HE, I booked a specific girl (quoting hher number) for oil massage aware she will deliver what one is expecting, as a friendof mine recommended her.And she did. The papa-san said to me "she does only HJ". fine with me., Then when he guided me to the room he said: "I was joking, you can fuck her if yiou want": When she arrived he instrcted her in chinese.
The night after I specifically asked 'oil massage' with happy ending. The girl remained dressed (if I well recall) but she did deliver the HE
SO, to resume, better be specific and clear with the papa-san, no need to be shy.

3)Entrance fee: The price list of Emperor was quite clear: the mid- high- cost massage (those performed in a private room, incl a no HE oil massage) do include the "sauna and pool fees" (as they describe the entry and basic services, as the end let's not forget these are "saunas" not brothels:)
At Emperor ther was even a cler information that a certain type of "medium" price massage (I think it was "Shangai") entitled only for the 12 hrs stay (usually I think they all grant 24hrs stay.
More cryptic is Rio. My understanding is that there is a en entry fee = a minimum cost. Once the services you purchased are over the equivalent of the entry fee this is waived. So if I took the whole panel of leg, foot, face, massages, pedicure etc services, summing over the entry fee, I pay for those and that is it. Maybe I am wrong, as anyhow my expenditure has always been above that

4) to be honest, unless you find a good service you want to exploit more in you rown room and have her on repeat basis for much lower costs, better use the sauna services. Do not forget you can stay in the sauna for many hours, have drinks and food.
I do not know how much of their afterhours time those girls can give you. They do need to rest at some point from their job and their job in most cases is ...sex! so after a 9-10hrs shift when they (good for them) had sex,or performed sex services, a few times
I am not so sure how much attention they will give to you, other than a quick for some extra money. That was my experience with the massage girl I got on her afterhours. Apart me being still knackered from the late night, she obvviously had her own agenda such as ... let's do the deed so I can then go home!
There are always exceptions, of course.

5) I am not in a position to comment on the "teacher", but good to know. When you see the line up it is always a big internal debate who to pick! the one with huge tits? the one smiling at you? the one ignoring you? the blonde russian? the funny dressed korean (they usually wore sort of national dress, it looks) or the chinese? or the viet? or the model type (just a price issue), the high number or the low number? Will the teacher perform better with you? she certainly knows the tricks of the trade, but not necessarily she wants to use them with you at full strength. She knows and teach them to the girls as a certain standard has to be kept. Then it is up to the individual girl how to develop, elaborate, add on their own skills and ability, or simply stick to the mechanical sequence of actions.

6)from what I read here the Lisboa girls are good for a quickie with a stunner. Add a bit more, if you have time, and you can get the same or more in a sauna, more relaxed, with food and drinks :)

7) never been to venetian, but with the choices one can have in the tens of saunas, again, why to venture with freelancers whose main objectif is "grab" your money. Will be very difficult you will repeat with them. More likely you repeat in the same saunas, even if you change girl, so the sauna has to deliver! that is why they have in general a good degree of quality and no bad surprises.

Thank you, Bionicman.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]....
6)from what I read here the Lisboa girls are good for a quickie with a stunner. Add a bit more, if you have time, and you can get the same or more in a sauna, more relaxed, with food and drinks :)

7) .........why to venture with freelancers whose main objectif is "grab" your money. no bad surprises.[/QUOTE]

I would like to underline this, it is valid espec. for Macau. Sauna was and is for me always relaxing. You don't know what you get, but you can expect a certain level of quality. And you will get always a nice sauna experience.

When I went to the racetrack you have to take care about everything. Your money, what you get, etc.. This is more or less something which can be okay for frequent guests, because they are able to become known. Therefore I gave up to get one of the girls. The sauna experience is really more relaxing. It is like a supermarket. You don't negotiate, you pay and just go in. Like you do in Dundas 37, KP, etc. in HK. of course with more variety.

This is sometimes okay for, but I need also the thrill of the street, beiing in CP or SZ and dining into the BBS world.

W

On this brief trip I focused most of my time in Macau instead of CP. Spent 5 nights in Macau and 2 nights in CP (see CP post for details).

Lisboa racetrack
Did 4 racetrack girls on different days. Did 2 from the afternoon shift and 2 from the late night shift. Maybe I got lucky but the 2 in the afternoon shifts provided great nonrushed service, so I paid HK1,000 each. 2 late evening shifts were very wham-bam-thank-you-mam type service, but what can I say, they were hot. Paid them HK800 each. Like a previous poster said, it seams that average quality at the racetrack has gone done. I remember when I was there 3 yrs ago I would have gladly done half the lineup. This time I only saw 4 that were up to par.

18 sauna
First time to 18 sauna. Thanks to all the info in the thread I knew the routine. Bought my package from Shuntak for HK1625. I remember the discussion about return tickets so I discussed the situation with the rep at 18 since I wasn't returning to HK the next day. Great setup. Very professional. An attendant sits and discusses the servcies/process when you arrive so to avoid any confusion.

Lineup was average with a few above average, and this was a Sat night. I was only able to shortlist 3 out of the whole lineup. I must have seen the whole lineup since I view around 4 shows before I made my decision. I ended up doing one regular and one model, so that added HK1600 to the bill (HK300 discount for 2nd girl. Model HK1900-HK300 discount = HK1,600). Standard 60min service as described in previous posts.

Rio Sauna
Wow, the models were hot, hot, hot. There were 3 models that were absolutely stunning. One had an amazing face with no tits, one was pretty with tits and ass, and one was super cute with great tits and ass. Picked the cute one with great body. She was 170cm with full body. She quoted HK3,000 for overnight and I seriously considered it. Service was professional if not distanced. If she provided more GFE I would have taken the overnight offer. HK2,088 total damage. I only spent a few hours at Rio since I already had a room booked elsewhere.

Like others have said, facilities wise Rio is better than 18. I felt very relaxed at Rio for some reason.

18 vs Rio? In my opinion, if you want to do models, I believe the Rio models were on average better looking than 18. If you want to do regular ones I recommend going to 18. You have numbers in your favor.

Pensao Forsan
The cantonese name for this hotel/brothel is "Bu Sing Bun Goon." I tried asking a cabbie to take me to Pensao Forsan and he gave me a blank stare. Luckily I wrote down the name in chinese. I was quoted HK400 for a quickie. I remember posts mentioning HK300 - HK500, so I accepted the HK400 price. Did 2 cuties from there for HK400 each. Looking back I don't think they were worth it since I can find the same thing for less in CP.

Again, thanks guys for all the info on this thread. I think 5 nights in Macau was a little too much. Next time I'll just do 3, enough for a lisboa, 18, and Rio.

Its a pity to read in the forum that the western women have gone from Macau, from the Holiday Inn Foyer and Oscars and Lisboa Basement etc. I've been told that this is a direct result of the Saunas not wanting to lose customers. They now have an almost complete monoply on the market. And all they can offer is 1 or 2 average western women if any. Its a good reason to go elsewhere. Its strictly the clubs and bars for me from now.
Will be back soon. Cheers Nickc

[QUOTE=Nickc]Its a pity to read in the forum that the western women have gone from Macau, from the Holiday Inn Foyer and Oscars and Lisboa Basement etc. I've been told that this is a direct result of the Saunas not wanting to lose customers. They now have an almost complete monoply on the market. And all they can offer is 1 or 2 average western women if any. Its a good reason to go elsewhere. Its strictly the clubs and bars for me from now.
Will be back soon. Cheers Nickc[/QUOTE]
There were more than 2-3 at the Emperor parade a couple of weeks ago, most likely CSI, but on the level of 7's
On the other hand might be that with the japanese and chinese clientele, english language is a barrier (it is for us with chinese!) so they do not hire them for seeing them not being picked up
:)

after a couple more session of veggie massages in shenzhen (i don't have many friends with the same hobby) i decided to ditch my friends and went to macau. i bought a package at shun tak for golden sauna. the total coast was $951 with the option to upgrade on site.

i took the 5pm ferry and arrived macau a little after 6pm. after clearing immigration, as i was walking out to the lobby area, i saw a young lady with a sign (sing kung travel) that was the same as the agency sold me the package. i asked and was confirmed that it was indeed the free ride to golden. after a stop at rio to drop of a couple of customers i arrived golden. i took a shower but skipped the pool and went to the rest area after putting on the robe and shorts.

as soon as i sat down i was approached by a girl with a star shaped number plate. she was kind of too heavy for my taste so i politely told her i was not looking for action yet and was also looking for someone a little smaller. i got something to drink and eat; flirted with the foot massage girls and finally got talked into getting a foot massage. one service item was included with the package so i figure what the hell. the massage was lack luster, not truly therapeutic.

one of the customers wanted to look at a lineup and gave me an opportunity to size up the selection for later. i saw a really pretty and slim girl in the black skirt in the lineup. she was not picked. she must have seen me looking at her as soon as the lineup was over she came by and sat next to my leg and we began to chat. i found out that the black uniform indicated that they double duty as greeters and were usually the ones sat and talked to customers. i liked her but i wasn't ready to play yet. i wanted to wait until after a couple of game sessions. she sensed that and after a while she left; but not before she spent time sitting on my lap and allowed my hands to do some wondering around.

another girl approached me and asked if i wanted the thigh massage. i looked pretty good so why not. she escorted me to a private room at the back passed the kitchen area. i lay on the bed and she pulled my shorts off and began massaging my thighs. after a while she oiled up the nut sack good and greasy and started this slow up and down motion on my erection. it felt good and only cost a little under $100.

after i returned to the lounge i got some more food to eat and music began to play to indicate it's time for the game. let's see if i can remember. the first girl untied my robe and play with my bro. second girl exposed the boobs and rubbed on my chest. third girl sat on my lap facing away from me and gyrate her butt on my lap. fourth girl put her hand in my shorts and play with bro. then all girls lined up and separated into groups of three or four. the rotated through the recliners so everyone would have a good look at all the girls. i noticed none of the girls wore panties.

a little more rest and a little more food later another game started. but this time the servers placed a wet wipe next to every customer. i was told this was unusual since it was only thursday. all the girls retreated to the back and when they returned they were all topless. the first 2-3 steps were the same but the announcer shouted words of encouragements for us to feel up the girls. well, i was doing that before the announcement. some girls allowed and some would try to fight off my hands. the more they fought the more determined i became. somehow i always ended up getting my way.

i must have been step 5 or 6 when the girl opened the wet wipe and wiped cleaned my bro. i was hoping for a few seconds of deep throat but she only darted the head of my dick with her tongue. it wasn't very exciting at all.

back to normal rest and relaxation. this viet girl had been sitting with me off and on all night and she came back to me after the game. she wasn't the prettiest but i kind of liked her personality. evidently the thigh massage girl and she were friends and the two of them persuaded me to take her into a room for more fun. as soon as we got into the room i started to dfk her. she took off my robe and shorts and was about to strip herself. i stopped her because i wanted to hold her and caress her for a bit longer. then i removed her jacket to expose to bra. i turned her around to find the bra clasp and unfasten that. the bra became loose and i could feel her ample breast swaying back and forth. i buried my fast between then while pulling her skirt down. she was completely naked. i just wanted to hold her skin to skin for as long as i could.

she asked if i wanted to take a shower and i said no. i pulled her down on top of me, her body and mine touching from head to toe. we continue kissing deeper. she began moving forward and backward, her pussy lips traveling the full length of my cock without penetration. it felt so good that i almost lost control. then i felt her body shake, not sure if i was fake or not, but she said she came. i could definitely feel the wetness.

with my cock all juiced up it was my turn. she slithered down and gave me a wonderful bbbj. finally i was capped and entered her with her on top. it didn't take long for her to bring me over the top.

we chatted afterward and she told me she is a little overweight. maybe a few pounds, in my opinion. she said the extra weight kept her from working at rio. if she wanted to work in rio she said she must lose some weight.

the phone rang indicating that time was up. we both got up and walked to the shower. she cleaned me up good. we got dressed and said good bye on the way out to the lounge. it didn't take me long to fall asleep and woke up at 7 the next morning. the total damage was about $1350 since i got a thigh massage and had to pay for an upgrade from chinese style to viet package. all in all a very good day/night.

i didn't catch her number. the name plate was too small and i didn't think to ask. she is no more than 5-2 5-3 and brown hair. very friendly.

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Sorry if this is a dumb question but new to this whole sauna thing. I was at East Sauna at Waldo last night.

After my session with a hot Chineese girl I was just hanging in the lounge chairs. I witnessed another show and saw the Japaneses guys pick there girls. What I noticed is the girls left and came back in there street clothes and hung out a little then they left with the Japanese. Why did the girls get in there street clothes? Is that the overnight option?

When I went with my Chineese girl we just went to room down hall and she did not change into different clothes.

[QUOTE=Zippy DC]After a couple more session of veggie massages in Shenzhen (I don't have many friends with the same hobby) I decided to ditch my friends and went to Macau. I bought a package at Shun Tak for Golden Sauna. The total coast was $951 with the option to upgrade on site..[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]
good report and thanks for it
One question, though as there has been a bit of a debate toward thigh massage.
Were you brought to a happy ending or just been teasen all the way?

[QUOTE=Steve 99]Sorry if this is a dumb question but new to this whole sauna thing. I was at East Sauna at Waldo last night.

After my session with a hot Chineese girl I was just hanging in the lounge chairs. I witnessed another show and saw the Japaneses guys pick there girls. What I noticed is the girls left and came back in there street clothes and hung out a little then they left with the Japanese. Why did the girls get in there street clothes? Is that the overnight option?

When I went with my Chineese girl we just went to room down hall and she did not change into different clothes.[/QUOTE]
First time I read here of this 'option',looks even quite open and public.
Can someone elaborate that?

[QUOTE=Bionicman]good report and thanks for it.

One question, though as there has been a bit of a debate toward thigh massage.
Were you brought to a happy ending or just been teasen all the way?[/QUOTE]It was teasing only. I wasn't looking for a HE though. Just wanted to get the blood flowing.