more input should be added...
[QUOTE=Charm City Dave]I was going to meet a friend in Montreal and bought a non-refundable ticket. When my friend had to cancel for family reasons, I found myself with two free night in the town.
I'm not going to write a long detailed report. By comparison with Rio or BKK Montreal IMOP is not a place to go to hobby. I had one bad experience with an agency called eleganzaescorts. I confirmed with them days in advanced and they cancelled the date 5 minutes before she was supposed to show. The manager told me she had hurt herself with another client and I have no way of knowing if this was true or not. Of course if she was hurt, I would not want her sent out. But the manager's attitude was terrible, with no offer to try to make anything up to me. I would not recommend this agency.
Candy's delight sent out a girl pretty quickly and where pleasant to deal with. The girl was pretty, but not a GFE as advertised. Devilish sent me my one winner for the trip, Kiki. I would highly recommend her.
I had previously thought of making a special trip to Montreal just to monger. Now that I have been there I would not recommend it. You can get the same service if not better in many US cities. You'll pay a little more, but when you factor in travel costs, it's probably just cheaper to stay here.
CCD[/QUOTE]Maybe some more input should be added.
First of all, once the lady cancelled because she could not continue, this client indicated that he would right this situation on the board if something was not done about it right away.
I'm sorry, but I don't deal well with someone you threatens to put a bad name against the agency just because he says he will post it on the board if something is not done about it.
With this kind of attitude, there is no way I would even consider the risk of sending any ladies to him.
That is why we did nothing to rectify the situation. Those who know me well, know that I always try to find a solution, but this client was not cooperative.
Thank you,
John,
Eleganza
I already know about the other sites
[QUOTE=Bungo Johnny]I have a suggestion, AT, seriously, no joke. Go check ******** or merc.ca and read some of the reviews. Montreal is dripping with hot young friendly girls. I honestly do not get the question: "why is it so hard to find reliable girls" It's not! Hell, I've seen 20-25 girls in Montreal, and maybe two weren't all that great.
Maybe it's you - I'm not joking here - maybe it's you the girls don't like? Maybe they don't liking working with you?[/QUOTE]
Bungo,
I realize you probably are half serious and also half trying to stick it to me for some reason. I have enjoyed action in Thailand, China, Australia, U.S. (California, Illinois, New York, Florida, Nevada, Hawaii, Washington), Japan, Hong Kong/Macau, South America, Korea, Vietnam, Phillipines, Canada (Vancouver and Montreal) and several other destinations. I had a good mix of experiences at each destination, from so-so to good to once in a lifetime.
I don't think it's me, unless there's a racial issue in Montreal that is not evident in other parts of the world. I really don't think this is the case, since I met a few non-working girls who were very cool and we got along great. I'm a gentleman and not one of those jerks that treats these girls like s**t. I don't look down on any of the girls, and only make judgements based on their attitude and behavior. I do not pre-judge them.
I am not saying all of the girls in Montreal are bad, since I have only about a dozen experiences with their escorts to date. I would not be viewing this thread, if I did not still have some hope for better future experiences. I have tried a few who were recommended and I have seen their reviews on the Canadian boards. That's why I have come to the conclusion that a few shills are at work. Keep in mind, the Canadian boards have some legitimate reviews and also quite a few touts\shills. If you read all of the reviews they range from awesome to terrible. YMMV? Maybe, but I have my doubts about many of the posts.
I have had better success with the massage route, although I prefer a good mix of action and the escort scene has been 90% average to poor so far. My most enjoyable encounter so far, was with Lexi. She was very nice, although a bit heavier than she appears in her photos. Still, a nice experience.
A good example of my disappointment with the scene, is that I have made attempts to see Jen from Devilish and Marie-Eve from Asservisante, but they are never available. The managers always want to recommend other girls, who are not even on the websites. That's bait and switch or a case of the girls running the show not the managers. That's just one of many examples. Another is a girl showing up 30 minutes late, or the chance I took on one of two girls available that ranks as one of my all time worst experiences, and another last minute switch because the girl I had an appointment with could not make it, that I said no thanks to.
Look, I am glad you have had great experiences in Montreal. Not knocking that at all. I am just reporting my experiences. For someone who does not know me, you sure seem to be taking my posts way too personally and seem hell bent on discrediting me or ripping me. Routard posted some similar comments and did a good writeup of the Montreal scene. You did not seem to take issue with his review, but my comments for some reason have struck a nerve. Model Chaser also had some similar comments to mine, but again you were not bothered. Your personal reviews on the providers you have experienced are as valid as anyone elses. A mix of reviews is what allows members to make informed decisions. I don't have any issue with your reviews, just your personal attacks.
AT2
Not knocking Montreal Girls ..
[QUOTE=Relentless]AT has had four visits and keeps knocking Montreal girls. I understand that there will always be some duds and some really bad encounters but overall my feeling is success rate is about 80 to 85 percent . The most important difference about the girls from Montreal against USA girls is that of attitude and desire to please.Many girls from USA want to do it in relatively a business like manner and there is always fear of police as well as the pimp who keeps them.
My experience w most agencies has been OK particularly like Asservissante and Celines and Satin Dreams. JDM and Fantasme can be OK if you see their girls regularly.
My suggestion to AT is "get over your criticism of Montreal.Everybody does what fits his situation." Some help about ripoff artists is quite welcome but dont knock entire industry and all agencies. Ripoff artists do not last too long given the fact of high failure rate of agencies. Let us have a useful and meaningful discussion and information exchange rather than sweeping generalizations. If Bangkok fits AT then go there and write on that board but get off constant criticism of Montreal.[/QUOTE]
Relentless,
I do appreciate your feedback. Nice objective critique. I would like to make it clear that I do believe the gems are there. I do not claim to be an expert on Montreal. It's actually 5 visits now, but the visits are short and obviously there's a limited time to monger on quick business trips. I post my observations and experiences, and I am not trying to knock all of the woman. Just disappointed with the experiences that I have had thus far.
I will be making more trips to Montreal. My hope is that the run of bad luck turns. I will say that many reviews I have seen tend to be very positive or very negative. That seems a bit odd. I am not saying it needs to be BKK. I have seen the US action knocked, but I have had several great experiences in the U.S. A success rate of 80% sounds high, but that depends on what you would define as success. I would say in general, that 50% would be a nice return. At least half the time, you would get a decent experience. Hopefully in the mix are a few gems. You mention a few of the agencies that I have not tried so far. I hope to try them in the future.
I saw your general overview review on the other board, and it seems that about 50% of the girls are repeatable. That sounds like a good mix. Hopefully the future visits will improve. This thread has had very limited activity. I would think any activity would be welcome. Positive or negative. I do plan on posting again. It may not be what you want to hear, but it may match another members experiences.
I do respect your right to your opinion though.
Peace,
AT2
You might want to try the massage scene ...
[QUOTE=Sean EZ]Thanks a lot for the info AT2.
What are the rules at strip clubs though? Is ok to ask for BJ at any one of them? Any particular places better for that? We won't be driving 40 miles out of the town.[/QUOTE]
Sean,
You may be looking for more action than you will get in the strip clubs in downtown Montreal. I did not pursue it, but my understanding is that you won't get much action in the Ste.Catherine street strip clubs. You can get a bj or hj with massage, in any of the 40-50 massage joints around town. For what it's worth, if you are looking for a stripper look and not necessarily a strip joint, then several of the Montreal escorts would fit that bill. If it's got to be a strip joint, then you are better off heading out of town to the other clubs I mentioned.
Maybe one of the local Montreal guys may be able to help you out here.
AT2
