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[QUOTE=Howie;2288065]Ok. This will be my last comment on the recent Denisa situation (unless I'm provoked into a pi***ng match). Atlante18's pretext of a threat to complain to Globe management in order to force her out of Globe unless she provides him with an 'out of this world' experience smells like extortion to me. If she doesn't like you, she doesn't like you. There is something wrong with you, not her. You probably desrespected her in some way for her to act out of character. Just move on, tight pussy or not. Your loss.
In an era of the Harvey Wienstein macho types, this does not sit well with me.
My 2 cents.
Howie.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ecivelum;2288103]Absolutely agree. Well said.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=FastMdSter;2288142]+1 great post. Many of the men forget that the woman are human. In ones own eyes they may think they are handsome, funny, etc but in the WGs eye you may be a fat ugly bastard. Remember they do this for money and even that is not always worth it.[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
Assuming that a man's behavior was respectful, it seems that most of them seem unable to understand that a girl may find something in you so unpleasant, that prevents her from delivering a decent performance; not to mention that, between two humans, independently form the physical aspects, the chemistry cannot simply work and you have the same negative results.
Having said that, I have to say that also the girls tend to forget that we men are human as well and they behave like we were machine or animals driven only by instincts and not by emotions: some of them seems unable to understand that an arrogant and impolite refusal or a performance, where the girl does not hide the huge dislike towards the man, has the same emotional impact as when we decline an offer from a lady saying to her "no, thanks, you are so ugly and also stupid".
I do not know the details of the interaction between Atlante and Denisa; but, assuming Atlante behavior was respectful, maybe Denisa should have just politely declined his offer.
What I want to say that some girls should learn to say NO and how to say a NO: but, once they accept to go into the room, they must make sure they respect a respectful customer.
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[QUOTE=Eddie73;2284409]"She is funny and great in the room".
I usually use exactly these words to describe another favo of mine, Tiffany. For me one of the best for GFE. Really passionate DFK, amazing blowjob and her fake boobs are the best made I have ever seen. At all she looks stunning.
Thank you for the feedback about russian Barbara. If I catch her, I will report back.[/QUOTE]Completely agree about Tiffany. She is great in the room. Just noticed she is at the club today. I hope she stays will my visit in 2 weeks. Any idea how long she usually stays on a visit?
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[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2290347]Completely agree about Tiffany. She is great in the room. Just noticed she is at the club today. I hope she stays will my visit in 2 weeks. Any idea how long she usually stays on a visit?[/QUOTE]Her normal tour is 2 or 3 weeks.
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[QUOTE=JacopoBelbo;2289421]Assuming that a man's behavior was respectful, it seems that most of them seem unable to understand that a girl may find something in you so unpleasant, that prevents her from delivering a decent performance; not to mention that, between two humans, independently form the physical aspects, the chemistry cannot simply work and you have the same negative results.
Having said that, I have to say that also the girls tend to forget that we men are human as well and they behave like we were machine or animals driven only by instincts and not by emotions: some of them seems unable to understand that an arrogant and impolite refusal or a performance, where the girl does not hide the huge dislike towards the man, has the same emotional impact as when we decline an offer from a lady saying to her "no, thanks, you are so ugly and also stupid".
I do not know the details of the interaction between Atlante and Denisa; but, assuming Atlante behavior was respectful, maybe Denisa should have just politely declined his offer.
What I want to say that some girls should learn to say NO and how to say a NO: but, once they accept to go into the room, they must make sure they respect a respectful customer.[/QUOTE]Girls say we are all different and I know, but even WGs, they are also different, so better to adapt to the girl to try to get our best expectations from her. I had some rooms when the girl was cold at the beginning and I thought I mistook to choose her, but my manners with women and foreplay turned to really enjoyable time and I never beg for anything with girls, I much prefer they will to give me.
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[QUOTE=JacopoBelbo;2289421]
What I want to say that some girls should learn to say NO and how to say a NO: but, once they accept to go into the room, they must make sure they respect a respectful customer.[/QUOTE]Not sure if this is your generalization of P4P girl's standardized behavior or a comment in support of Atlante.
If the latter then I'm not too sure if you had followed the whole story of the discussion.
In summary:
Atlante had his first rodeo with Denisa. It wasn't good. Whose at fault, hard to say but Atlante's writing suggest it was hers. I countered, as I know Denisa. At that time he had the opportunity to make a complaint but he did not. If he had, I would have let that one slide as it was his right to do so.
However, now he wants another try (with the knowledge of knowing what she is all about) and made the announcement of a premeditated threat to discredit her if she does not conform. How is that respectful?
Anyways, I'll be in touch with Denisa at the end of March and hope to get a scoop on this whole Atlante situation.
At Atlante - just to follow up, did you go for that second attempt? If so, I hope you paid her very well for the grief you given her.
Howie.
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[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2288966]Thanks for the info on Denisa Howie. I will try to session with her next time I am in Globe. In my experience North African girls are amazing.
Where does Denisa sit in Globe?[/QUOTE]When are you going? I think she finishes her current tour at the end of this weekend. But should be back in March.
She normally floats around the back bar. You can't miss her with the big glasses and black wavy hair.
Howie.
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[QUOTE=Howie;2290883]Anyways, I'll be in touch with Denisa at the end of March and hope to get a scoop on this whole Atlante situation.[/QUOTE]Are you the lawyer of her? It's getting ridiculous.
The Globe Management knows the girls pretty well. No one is kicked out of the club for a negative comment.
Keep cool.
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[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2290347]Completely agree about Tiffany. She is great in the room. Just noticed she is at the club today. I hope she stays will my visit in 2 weeks. Any idea how long she usually stays on a visit?[/QUOTE]If I remember correctly what she told me last time, she will be there until March 2nd or 3nd.
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[QUOTE=Eddie73;2290899]Are you the lawyer of her? It's getting ridiculous.
[/QUOTE]Nope but I do like watching American lawyer drama series.
Howie.
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[QUOTE=Howie;2290883]Not sure if this is your generalization of P4P girl's standardized behavior or a comment in support of Atlante.
If the latter then I'm not too sure if you had followed the whole story of the discussion.
In summary:
Atlante had his first rodeo with Denisa. It wasn't good. Whose at fault, hard to say but Atlante's writing suggest it was hers. I countered, as I know Denisa. At that time he had the opportunity to make a complaint but he did not. If he had, I would have let that one slide as it was his right to do so.
However, now he wants another try (with the knowledge of knowing what she is all about) and made the announcement of a premeditated threat to discredit her if she does not conform. How is that respectful?.[/QUOTE]I have already written many times that I find totally inappropriate writing a negative post to attack a girl after a bad session. I do not like at all nasty posts against a girl, whatever they did, so I did not like the post of Atlante.
This is something I never do and believe me, some girls were so arrogant and impolite that they would deserve it.
If Atlante wants to have sex again with Denisa, after a very negative session, it is something that goes beyond my comprehension. A girl can treat me bad or deliver a weak performance, but only once, I do not repeat or approach her anymore (I have only one exception to this).
But, if Denisa does not decline his offer, is even crazier; you 're not comfortable with a man, just find a polite way to say no to him, period.
My point was different; girls are not always innocent, as some of them lack respect to men and think we are made of rubber so that any blow we receive rebounds.
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[QUOTE=Howie;2290905]Nope but I do like watching American lawyer drama series.
Howie.[/QUOTE]You don't know what happened, I also don't know, if she is ex Desire with big hair, not for my eyes, but for sure, if it was not good, better not to repeat, when some great girls at Globe.
When I don't feel wow, I usually don't repeat, but I was surprised by a girl in Germany, our discovery started great, but became less and less great when room was going on, so I didn't plan to repeat and thought it has not be good also for her, but few weeks later she came saying take me to room, discovery was for 1 hour with frustrated end, repeat was for only 30 mn because just before close and she was full smiling all along and even after paying her when it was closing time, for only 50 €. 4 rooms now and we improve for intimacy together.
Finnja was my only 30 mn room at Globe, nothing to repeat when she came later to ask, but much higher level when we repeated at GT for 1 hour for 100 , if only she was a bit clever, she should get a better business.
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Globe Girls Discipline.
E73,
You may well be right 'No one is kicked out of the club for a negative comment.'
However, to my understanding, Globe keep records of negative comments on individual girls and operate something close to a '3 strikes and you're out' policy; especially for newbies.
Maybe, at the right discreet moment, ask one of your regulars about whether she's ever had a 'black mark' and what happened after.
Also, I have been led to understand, girls with 'attitude' tend to get selected for Reseve days, no work, no pay or sent to other clubs under the same management company ( lower pay).
Policies like these maintain Globe's high standards and, for some girls, higher stress levels.
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[QUOTE=JacopoBelbo;2289421]
What I want to say that some girls should learn to say NO and how to say a NO: but, once they accept to go into the room, they must make sure they respect a respectful customer.[/QUOTE]Thanks for bringing us back to sanity, Signor Belbo. This thread is badly in need of someone representing the viewpoint of mongers.
Once a girl says [I]yes[/I], she is committed to putting on a good performance, just as much as the guy is committed to paying. It's true at an ordinary FKK, but ten times more true at a place with premium rates like Globe.
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[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2288966]In my experience North African girls are amazing.[/QUOTE]Amira is German. Maroccan. Often together with Chloe. She is definitely different body type than Denisa, but a funny, intelligent girl, good room performance.
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[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2290952]Thanks for bringing us back to sanity, Signor Belbo. This thread is badly in need of someone representing the viewpoint of mongers.
Once a girl says [I]yes[/I], she is committed to putting on a good performance, just as much as the guy is committed to paying. It's true at an ordinary FKK, but ten times more true at a place with premium rates like Globe.[/QUOTE]I don't agree: even a girl accept to go with us, because she wants to make money, that s FKK principle even at Globe, but we have to behave to deserve she will to please us. I know some guys were not treated at all like me by my regulars but only their problem to be just followers, because I know how my regulars can be with me, but I don t know what happened at Globe, each one experience is subjective and all WGs are not robots. I know some who prefer to be treated as woman and then they give back. Money is not all, to receive.