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[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1731688]Probably see him in Cebu walking around Ayala and SM looking for free pussy. It is there trust me (as you know) but would anyone in their right mind want to try it.

As for 'free' pussy well he had clearly read lots of advice on this and I taking fill advantage of naivety and shyness or basically a cousin of a few guys who used to frequent the board boasting but then never did a FR.[/QUOTE]Just what the Filipinas need, another basket case preying on them! Leading the charge screaming YOLO! Haha.

How do you live "nicely" on okay income having to survive on free pussy? Another pooreigner hitting the shores.

[QUOTE=Sympalogy;1730754]Ok, so I'm going to take the plunge, and just move to the Philippines cold turkey.

I guess it's time for me to live through my mid-life crisis, and it feels freaking sweet.[/QUOTE]Sympalogy,

I too have moved to the Philippines recently and in a similar working situation. I work via my computer and not tied to 1 specific location.

I think everyone is just trying to give some friendly advice since 1st hand experience is invaluable. I'll chip in as well. I'm sure the prospect of chasing girls / pussy sounds like a dream world. My guess that it might get old over time. Since you haven't been to PI before, just set your expectations low to not get disappointed and be flexible when you arrive here. Personally for me, it was important to find a nice apartment so when I am working inside, I am in a good state of mind. Also, I wanted a central location to avoid having to buy a car and somewhere I can reasonably walk around. I focused more on giving my new life normalcy to make the transition as smooth and successful as possible. If you lay a good groundwork before coming, you won't have to then jump on a plane and leave.

With that said, I know all people are different and can adapt probably better than me.

Thanks guys for the comments, good and bad.

So, let me continue: So far, "Free Pussy" is turning out to be some of the most expensive pussy I will ever get. Just the hours spent chatting, and Skype "verifying", in these two days would get me some Colombian model girl in Cali, but hey, it's a test. I always have wanted to feel the girls wanting me "for me" (Whatever that means).

Anyway, lots of chatting, the girls are really kind, with good hearts, and I understand D_33 when he said that if there are girls who would make better wives than Peruanas in this whole wide world, it is Filipinas. It sounds exactly right.

Also, so far, the Cebuanas have been beating it in looks compared to Davao city girls. They look good, and with a bit of CJ Sparrow's plan to take the girl to a spa, to a hair stylist and shopping, some would look like real bombshells.

I know you guys think I just want to take advantage of Filipinas, I know me, and it may seem that way but it is not. I actually do have a lot to offer as a person, and I am not stingy, but is it so wrong to "pay" through gifts, nights out and shopping rather than paying upfront? I mean, is it wrong for a man to do something he didn't do before and was curious about?

Judge me if you want. I learned long ago that there are two choices in life: you either do what pleases other people, and be unhappy; or put your balls on the line, dare to be different, do things in the "wrong" way, and at least be happy because I am doing what I believe in.

Anyway, I know you guys also will tell me this is a lie, but the girls keep on telling me "You're so handsome". They also get this wide smile, puppy eyes, and that "white man smash" that happens in Tokyo. I am happy I can have that effect on them.

Finally, I feel misunderstood by you guys for some reason. I feel you picture me as a 70 years old man patrolling the streets looking for an 18 year old naive girl to pump and dump, counting his pennies and laughing as he breaks her heart, while I am simply a guy who came out of a depressing and sad 8 years old long relationship, and just want to know how it feels to date around and to have a Filipina girlfriend. I just want to have a good answer for when they ask me for money on FC, so I say "only generous with the girl I love".

Anyway, you guys have been so helpful, I won't hold this misunderstanding against you.

[QUOTE=Sympalogy;1731921]

I know you guys think I just want to take advantage of Filipinas, I know me, and it may seem that way but it is not. I actually do have a lot to offer as a person, and I am not stingy, but is it so wrong to "pay" through gifts, nights out and shopping rather than paying upfront? I mean, is it wrong for a man to do something he didn't do before and was curious about?

Judge me if you want. I learned long ago that there are two choices in life: you either do what pleases other people, and be unhappy; or put your balls on the line, dare to be different, do things in the "wrong" way, and at least be happy because I am doing what I believe in.

[/QUOTE]Let me tell you people have always taken advantage of people in one way or another. In our world of mongering we do take take advantage of girls through money, their dreams of better life, their dreams of long term support, their dreams of helping family and whatever they dream of. In majority of cases their dreams fail and they settle for just money.

If you think you just want to give gifts and get into their pants you are mistaken. First give them money whether they are call girls or whether they are innocent girls? After that if you feel generous treat them with dinner and gifts. Do not be delusional. These girls need money more than anything. It is true they will not come out and ask money for the fear of being branded as sex workers.

Yes, you can do whatever you want but there are some rules to follow when you are mongering.

Well, I don't know how you guys are doing the Filipino Cupid thing, with DS telling me to at least chat with 50 girls, but I have 10 now on Skype and they are driving me apeshit crazy!

I mean, just after 24 hours, girls DEMANDING I tell them I love them (which I won't do, like wtf), heard all kinds of sob stories, girls texting and calling me at Skype (it's on my phone) at all kinds of hours, and then getting "jealous" if I don't answer, It's DRAMA city.

I found some girl with AMAZING big boobs (she's still milking and breast-feeding her baby, that is why; because she has a twin sister who has a see cup tits, but this girl has AT LEAST Double DS), and she calls me to introduce me to her baby and her parents, and showing me her drunk father and shit like that, and she doesn't understand that I'm working, and she DEMANDS I get jealous by telling me about her friends' foreign boyfriends, and all kinds of drama that I am not into, and got no time for. Sad thing it seems I will lose the pussy if I didn't give them the time of day, and it's a weakness that is messing with me.

I mean, the last time I went on a mongering trip, I had 26 girls in 30 days (had to take some days off). It was in Rio de Janeiro. (Actually, that was before last trip. Last trip was to Barcelona.).

Just based on these first days, I'd be LUCKY if I could get with 5 girls, if not just 2. I make things clear, never make lofty promises to the girls, or tell them I love them, just that I am looking for a GF and want to get to know them (which is true, doesn't mean I don't want to try different girls to find one that I like the most), but they already, since day 1, "establish" themselves as my GF, future wife, and DEMAND I tell them I love them, like wtf?

Also, so many sob stories and asking for money (especially by girls who say they are Virgins). I talked to a girl who is 19, a teacher in a primary school, and freaking BEAUTIFUL. You'd think she's a tiny version of Sofa Vergara with a great full see cup and a bubbly and kind personality, and she is asking me for $100 help for her grandfather, and getting all tearful and supplicating, and it freaking breaks my heart. She's a virgin, so I'm moving on, but I asked her for proof of what she said (which is pretty bad), and if so, I'm going to do the rookie stupid mistake of helping her grandfather. I cannot be cruel enough to not do something about it because, well, why should she sell her virginity or something like that just so that her grandfather would have less pain as he dies?

If it's a lie, then it will be a great learning experience so that: (1) those guys who say the Filipinas are naive will be proven wrong, they are WAY more powerful than the men you think "prey" on them, and much more cunning; and (2) it teaches me that a sob story could be this believable by a girl who really is a good person is just that, a scheme to extract money. It will be good for me.

So far, this "dating" thing ain't what it's cracked up to be. If things continue this way, I'll just go back to my tried and true pay for play method, and know this is not for me.

Some guy said we pay the girls to leave. I say we pay them to leave AND to STFU. LOL.

Again, if anything said in this report offended anyone, always remember that words are signposts, and that writing doesn't convey the whole nuances. I respect and love people, and I value all people highly whether from the US, Philippines, Nigeria or Venezuela, and I treat everyone with kindness and good intentions. Still, I am a man, and genetically, I am programmed to want sexual variety.

So, if you either think I'm pumping and dumping OR I lie to the girls, I am neither of those. Sad that I have to say such clarifications since people here are so used to weirdos that they expect anyone new to this part of the world to be that way.

The girls are WAY smarter than you expect, and let them use their own judgements. I know for a fact that women can read men MUCH better than you and I ever will be able to. So let millions of years of evolution work their magic, and if I'm a "fake", they'll expose me soon enough.

I might get my reputation ruined with the girls no matter how hard I try to make things clear and because of the lack of anonymity, but hey, it will end up being a nice story to tell.

I always remember this: on my deathbed, I will not regret my mistakes, I will regret the things I wanted to do but did not dare do. I want to reduce the number of those as much as I can.

Those who know and have a life off-line have always said on this forum; start the dating site search two weeks before arrival.

[QUOTE=Sympalogy;1732065]Well, I don't know how you guys are doing the Filipino Cupid thing, with DS telling me to at least chat with 50 girls, but I have 10 now on Skype and they are driving me apeshit crazy![/QUOTE]I am on FC, but am selective on whom I email. Most short-timers who will only be in the country for 1-2 weeks need to make as many contacts and sort through them later. If you are here for an extended period of time, why not slow things down and be semi-selective?

[QUOTE=Sympalogy;1732065]
Also, so many sob stories and asking for money (especially by girls who say they are Virgins). I talked to a girl who is 19, a teacher in a primary school, and freaking BEAUTIFUL. You'd think she's a tiny version of Sofa Vergara with a great full see cup and a bubbly and kind personality, and she is asking me for $100 help for her grandfather, and getting all tearful and supplicating, and it freaking breaks my heart. She's a virgin, so I'm moving on, but I asked her for proof of what she said (which is pretty bad), and if so, I'm going to do the rookie stupid mistake of helping her grandfather. I cannot be cruel enough to not do something about it because, well, why should she sell her virginity or something like that just so that her grandfather would have less pain as he dies?[/QUOTE]Really? I think you know the answer to this and there is no reason to believe a story of someone that you have chatted with a few times online.

[QUOTE=Sympalogy;1732065]
So far, this "dating" thing ain't what it's cracked up to be. If things continue this way, I'll just go back to my tried and true pay for play method, and know this is not for me.[/QUOTE]You may want to re-think your locale as others have stated Davao is not a great pay for play.

[QUOTE=Sympalogy;1732065]
I might get my reputation ruined with the girls no matter how hard I try to make things clear and because of the lack of anonymity, but hey, it will end up being a nice story to tell.
[/QUOTE]Again a bit of free advice that you may want to ignore. If you are going to be in 1 location for an extended period of time, you might want to be a little more cautious and patient. If you were just visiting, you could switch hotels and / or you'll be leaving the country. The last thing you'll want as an extended visitor is girls you have dumped showing up at your apartment causing trouble for you. While I have met a few people this time, I've been pretty specific about being new to the area, very busy with work and not ready for a long-term girlfriend. I am trying to avoid any longer term headaches especially if I meet someone that worth more than a few nights hookup.

[QUOTE=David_33;1732107]Those who know and have a life off-line have always said on this forum; start the dating site search two weeks before arrival.[/QUOTE]Anyone considering using dating sites read this three times and remember it. I wish I"the seen this advice before I signed up.

Well, life should be an adventure, with its ups and downs.

And yes, I agree 100% that "hunting" on FC should start two weeks before the trip date, not 2 months like in my case.

Well, I had a relaxing 24 hours. Since I posted that report, I logged off completely from all "dating related" apps, and I am having some good and peaceful time to focus on my work and on my life offline.

Ahh, it feels so wonderful.

Meanwhile, the girls are probably sending messages non stop, and getting all uptight that nobody is answering. But hey, I've got to establish boundaries and have my priorities right.

Right now, the girls are priority 3. Number 1 is getting my new business off the ground, and number 2 is taking care of my health (starting to work out and eat healthy etc).

I'm also starting to let go of the "big titty" thing, and lower my expectations. Just go for the petite Asian spinner type so that I have the full Asian experience, to the hilt. At least there is a ton more choices.

Also, you guys convinced me about that "not being stuck in one place thing". Instead of committing in rent etc, I'll move around as soon as I don't like some place, and we'll see where life takes us.

Finally, about the Pinay in need, it's not too bad of a thing, and my comment on "rookie mistake" was actually a reference to some PM I received (good pm, no doubt).

I just set aside every month a budget to help people in need and for charity, I had been doing it for years, so if she proves her case, it will be a natural thing: a human being helping another human being with no ulterior motives. I wouldn't help someone in need just to get something out of it, I guess it's a flaw of mine.

Anyway, from now on, I'll live this dating thing on my terms. If it doesn't work out or the girls don't like my boundaries, well tough luck.

Life is an adventure, and you can only appreciate the good times because of living through the bad times.

Ahh, the day started well.

Today, I was able to wake up at peace, took my time to bond with my Trumper's Almond, my Rooney and my Merkur for some nice slow wetshaving goodness, and also was able to put some good hours of work in.

Surprisingly, the girls are taking this "boundaries" thing better than I expected. They made a fuss at first, but then they know that I'll only log in when I want to talk, otherwise, I am busy.

They call me now "busy man". Haha.

Only the girl with the biggest boobs is being all butthurt about it, but all I did is give her an ultimatum: either fall in line, or bye bye. I will not sacrifice my peace of mine for some boobs.

And it comes from something I learned 10 years ago, and found it to work consistently. It was a fateful night in HELP, Rio de Janeiro were I just arrived and went out "needing" to bring a girl in.

It was a bad night.

And I noticed a trend, the more I need to bring a girl with me, the more sloppy I get with interviewing them, and end up regretting it.

And I tried to do the 180 degree opposite: I went out every night PLANNING to go home alone unless a girl really catches my attention and passes my interview with flying colors.

That's when I fell in love with Brazil.

So, now, this is what I'll do on this trip. I'll go planning to have my right hand as a companion unless a girl stands out so much, I make room for her. They'll get whatever chat time I feel like giving them, and if I don't feel like it, the hell with it.

It's also related to the Buddhist view on suffering: human beings suffer not because of external things, but because we twist ourselves on good things trying to make them last, and we squeeze ourselves trying to avoid pain. That resistance is more painful than the "pain" itself, and being enlightened is actually freeing yourself from those natural instincts 100%. Anyone who is enlightened feels whatever you and I feel, they just have 0 resistance for it, so it never leads to suffering.

Anyway, "fate" is already rewarding me for this, as it did so many times before.

Now, this big boobs lactating 24 years old drama queen mom is all pissed off that I'm not at her beck and call, meanwhile, an 18 years old super cute girl with tight body (no chubbiness) and AT LEAST E cup boobs (in her pictures, I can see she's not wearing a bra, probably cannot find a bra her size in the PI) who is kind and allows me to take my time is taking an interest in me.

I like it.

[QUOTE=Sympalogy;1732256]
Right now, the girls are priority 3. Number 1 is getting my new business off the ground, and number 2 is taking care of my health (starting to work out and eat healthy etc).[/QUOTE]I'm not going to comment on your chat stuff, but it does seem that you enjoy the drama. Haha.

If you are seriously going to PI, I'd get your banking / finances in order. Mostly people aren't going to feel comfortable carrying around enough cash to last them for a year.

Wiring money to PI: HSBC Premier if you have $100 K in assets would be free (2) Bank of America: will charge roughly $60 / wire. Both can be done online after completing requirements (HSBC are a lot more than BofA).

ATM: Schwab has free international withdraws if you have a checking + investor account. Very small accounts may be cancelled, but I'm not sure what the threshold would be.

Credit cards: Card companies are replacing current cards now (with a Fall deadline) with the new / old chip technology. You might want to call the companies now and get a replacement. I've had 1 expire since I've been here.

Burner credit card: I'm using a low limit fx trans free credit card for most of my transactions. If it gets compromised, it's no big deal. Some credit cards may have a junk fx rate though (haven't bothered to double check yet).

[QUOTE=Random99;1732414]I'm not going to comment on your chat stuff, but it does seem that you enjoy the drama. Haha.

[/QUOTE]That was exactly my feeling too Random.

I think poor Sympalogy is so immersed (wallowing) in his own dramas that he doesn't realize he is guilty of being the biggest drama queen of all.

I have stopped reading his posts now.

I don't need to read every thought bubble that he is documenting as he plans his big "adventure", especially as he seemed to initially dismiss all our suggestions only to suddenly realize we all might be right after all.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1732520]That was exactly my feeling too Random.

I think poor Sympalogy is so immersed (wallowing) in his own dramas that he doesn't realize he is guilty of being the biggest drama queen of all.

I have stopped reading his posts now.

I don't need to read every thought bubble that he is documenting as he plans his big "adventure", especially as he seemed to initially dismiss all our suggestions only to suddenly realize we all might be right after all.[/QUOTE]It will be interesting to see if Sympalogy come up from his mother's basement and out on the great adventure. There is a big leap from feeling like a hero on dating sites and then experience the real world.

Do you know the 80/20 rule?

There have been studies on the behavior of world class experts, and they found that this rule in even more pronounced with them: that just 5% of their actions give 95% of the results.

In the same way, in my case, 95% of the drama was coming from 5% of the girls (the big boobed mommie).

So since I told her that she is not what I'm looking for, life had been much more peaceful.

Also, I was mostly chatting with girls who are 24 years old and up. It's because they have much bigger boobs than the younger ones (when I search on FC for "My Best Feature: My Chest", that is what comes up.).

Then, yesterday, I tried my luck with the 18 and 19 years old, and it feels like being transported to another dimension!

First, the girls are so shy, they get speechless on cam and cover their mouths and faces in a very cute way.

One of them was shy she only showed me her lips. I told her she was being too sexy, she should stop it, and it was so sexy it made me hard.

So I asked her: "Do you want to see my cock?" She said "Yes" and from then on, she masturbated for me on camera, watching me do the same, and when she came, her fingers were so wet, and she started licking them and told me she wishes it were my cum. Then, of course, she went back to shy again.

You know, when girls have good sex, they get into a trance. Nothing else in the world matters. And after they cum, they are in a very vulnerable state where if you say something that normally may be "okay", it would hurt them, especially with so much sLUut shaming that they have to live through, it's harder for them than men.

So I told her the truth: that I respect her and that it was a great and intimate moment we shared together, and that it was amazing. It was.

[i]P.S. Do you guys know about Jungian psychology? There is the concept of Shadow, which is that what we hate in other people is actually something we have in ourselves and we are trying to repress it.

Your "criticism" of me just means that whatever you are projecting on me is a part of you that you should deal with.

Second, it doesn't promote honesty on this board. When lurkers see this, they fear this public humiliation (which is one of the worst instinctive evolutionary fears of human beings, to be cast out from the herd), and they will either never post, or post some vanilla overview with lots of details omitted.

I personally do not need your approval to know who I am: I have mongered on 4 continents, I have spent as low as $5 and as high as $600 for 1 hour with a girl.

I'm just trying something new, and being 100% transparent about it.

Can I live?[/i]

[QUOTE=Sympalogy;1732065]Well, I don't know how you guys are doing the Filipino Cupid thing, with DS telling me to at least chat with 50 girls, but I have 10 now on Skype and they are driving me apeshit crazy!
[/QUOTE]You're fresh meat. After a while your profile becomes known, you've exchanged messages with many, and it settles down. If you rotate through a few dating sites, such as 1 month DIA, 1 month PL, 1 month Tagged it keeps thing fresher. Since FC is a paid subscription site you ought to maximise your use of it. Make sure you haven't been enrolled in auto-renewal if it is not your intention to use it for months on end.