Sosua Reports

As an African Amererican I fine the DR women to be very attractive. They are mixed with many ehnic groups and are incredible beautiful. Many white guys are not into dark women.

It is my experience that white Americans are not comfortable when they are in the minority. When blacks move in prodominantly white neigborhoods in the US they move. Of course this is a generalization. For us brothers DR women are a God send. They have great attitudes and will screw your brains out. Our home girls can be very hard to get along with. So the DR women provide everything we want and for a great price. It is also a matter of taste. Whites guys often preferr white women. The DR is not the place for them. No big deal! DR women seem to like African american men. They know we think they are beautiful and we have money. A great combination! The women experience with gringos is different I think. I think as a black man I relate better to DR women. (my thoughts) I have had conservations with DR women on the subject. It is much easier for me to pull off the GF thing with a DR chica then a gringo. DR chicas think that a relationship with Black American can happen not so much with a gringo. Just my insight from many years of watching.

[QUOTE=Sovereign;1144461]That is an interesting observation that I don't see many Caucasian A mericans in the DR. I would be curious as to why that is. Given that on any given trip you may see a lot of Black men around Sosua doesn't neccessarily mean that a lot of Black men go. It could be a sampling Issue or merely a popular weekend like superbowl that attracted a large number that time). I would like to hear from any members that spend long periods of time their at a given time or even have lived there. It could just be that a few Black men are going over and over again (I met a Black guy that goes back every other month).[/QUOTE]

Tiger Woods, Lamar Odom, Seal, Kobe Bryant, what color women do these guys like? I think you are way over generalizing. Plenty of Dominican chicas have relationships with guys from Italy, Spain, Canada and guys from other countries who are white. It is matter of personal taste. My father and I had vastly different tastes in women.

[QUOTE=OldKool; 1144640]As an African Amererican I fine the DR women to be very attractive. They are mixed with many ehnic groups and are incredible beautiful. Many white guys are not into dark women.

It is my experience that white Americans are not comfortable when they are in the minority. When blacks move in prodominantly white neigborhoods in the US they move. Of course this is a generalization. For us brothers DR women are a God send. They have great attitudes and will screw your brains out. Our home girls can be very hard to get along with. So the DR women provide everything we want and for a great price. It is also a matter of taste. Whites guys often preferr white women. The DR is not the place for them. No big deal! DR women seem to like African american men. They know we think they are beautiful and we have money. A great combination! The women experience with gringos is different I think. I think as a black man I relate better to DR women. (my thoughts) I have had conservations with DR women on the subject. It is much easier for me to pull off the GF thing with a DR chica then a gringo. DR chicas think that a relationship with Black American can happen not so much with a gringo. Just my insight from many years of watching. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool; 1144640]As an African Amererican I fine the DR women to be very attractive. They are mixed with many ehnic groups and are incredible beautiful. Many white guys are not into dark women.

It is my experience that white Americans are not comfortable when they are in the minority. When blacks move in prodominantly white neigborhoods in the US they move. Of course this is a generalization. For us brothers DR women are a God send. They have great attitudes and will screw your brains out. Our home girls can be very hard to get along with. So the DR women provide everything we want and for a great price. It is also a matter of taste. Whites guys often preferr white women. The DR is not the place for them. No big deal! DR women seem to like African american men. They know we think they are beautiful and we have money. A great combination! The women experience with gringos is different I think. I think as a black man I relate better to DR women. (my thoughts) I have had conservations with DR women on the subject. It is much easier for me to pull off the GF thing with a DR chica then a gringo. DR chicas think that a relationship with Black American can happen not so much with a gringo. Just my insight from many years of watching. [/QUOTE]I live here and am lily white. The people here do not see things as 'black and white', it's the thickness of the wallet. I love this country. It's color blind.

[QUOTE=OldKool; 1144640]As an African Amererican I fine the DR women to be very attractive. They are mixed with many ehnic groups and are incredible beautiful. Many white guys are not into dark women.

It is my experience that white Americans are not comfortable when they are in the minority. When blacks move in prodominantly white neigborhoods in the US they move. Of course this is a generalization. For us brothers DR women are a God send. They have great attitudes and will screw your brains out. Our home girls can be very hard to get along with. So the DR women provide everything we want and for a great price. It is also a matter of taste. Whites guys often preferr white women. The DR is not the place for them. No big deal! DR women seem to like African american men. They know we think they are beautiful and we have money. A great combination! The women experience with gringos is different I think. I think as a black man I relate better to DR women. (my thoughts) I have had conservations with DR women on the subject. It is much easier for me to pull off the GF thing with a DR chica then a gringo. DR chicas think that a relationship with Black American can happen not so much with a gringo. Just my insight from many years of watching. [/QUOTE]Dominican women care about money and not about color, simple as it is.

[quote=frannie;1144611]no one has offered any explanation as to why there are a lot of african american mongers in sosua, many of them younger. how do they find out about sosua? what enables them to overcome the taboo against prostitution within the aa community? what about the risks of exposure for people who are in professions that would frown on mongering activity?[/quote]as sovereign said there aren't a lot (relative because your "a lot" may be 10 and mine 100) of black americans in sosua. but the ones that you see are younger because the older people are probably tied down with a wife and family so they do not have the resources and are not accustomed to traveling, especially internationally. as far as a taboo against prostitution, that exceeds racial lines. i think it's more of a cross gender taboo and has nothing to do with race. men, no matter what race, do it, have always done it, and are going to continue to do it. but they don't want women to think they do it or approve of it. just look at the politicians and preachers. they are always against it in public, yet always end getting caught up in some bullshit about it.

when i was 17 and in high school my dad knew that i was hanging with the pimps in our red light area. when i graduated from navy boot camp me, my dad, my uncle, and my cousin went down to tijuana. my dad told me if there was anything i liked it was on him. my dad has been to rio and thailand with me. my brother has been to sosua and thailand with me. my best friend and cousin have been to rio and sosua with me. these things can be freely discussed and are quite acceptable among all the male members in my family and peer group. but they would not dare be brought up with a female. as far as they are concerned we are just "hanging out" and not on binge sex trips with more hookers than you can shake a stick at.

from [url]http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/182859.pdf[/url], "while earlier studies estimated that 69% or more men had patronized prostitutes during their lives, recent methodologically sound research provides a very different picture. the national health and social life survey, conducted in 1992 using a nationally representative sample, found that only about 16% of men in the usa had ever visited a prostitute."

actually i would agree with the 69% (if not more) of the earlier studies.

from the same report, "though whites make up a majority of offenders in all three cities, minority offenders make up about 40% of offenders in san francisco and las vegas. ages of arrested clients ranged from 18 to 84 with a mean age of 38 and a median of 37."

this data would lead you to believe that there is no taboo solely on the male end of the spectrum. when males are alone or among other male friends let the games begin, but when males are mixed with females it better be taboo or else. think about a bachelor party. the code word "stripper" actually means what in guy language? hooker! but it has to be watered down to stripper because we can't let the female better halves know we will have easy access to a hole that does not belong to them. we have to pretend that we will only look at titties. the same as strip clubs these days. most of the girls at the clubs in my majority black city are available for fs for an extra $40.

as far as exposure for people who are professionals again it is the same thing. there is no problem if other guys know. shit they are doing the same thing. but you can't let the females in on it.

Respectfully speaking but your statement shows you are not qualified to comment on race relations in the Dominican Republic. The only person living in the DR, and is color blind, is you.

Have you not noticed the Dominicans hatred of Haitians? Or the hidden racism between light skinned Dominicans and dark skinned Dominicans. Charles Pooter lives there and has his eyes open and knows.

you raise some interesting questions frannie (maybe you are a sociologist after all lol) and i'll give my 2 cents. but first a few questions of my own. are there really a lot of aa mongers going to the dr? what does 'a lot' mean? on a typical night in sosua, what percentage of total mongers to aa's make up? i just don't think that there are. anyway.

yes, i can tell family and close friends about my mongering trips but that is still a relatively small group of folks (i'm sure my mom is curious as to why i've been to the dr 4 times in the last year, but she won't ask and i certainly won't tell lol). it would be professionally detrimental if my white female boss knew that i went, but the 3-4 male coworkers that i share the stories and pictures with get jealous. i'm judicious with the info, sharing it with people who really know me and thus won't confuse what i do with who i am (everyone that knows about my trips would still say that i am a good man with absolutely no hesitation). my female friends believe i will simply grow out of it and maybe they are right.

i don't think that the great majority of aa men know about mongering opportunities. i stumbled on sosua by luck after overhearing a conversation in a bar about the beautiful women in the dr that were available. before that i had been curious about mongering but lacked any real intel about how to go about it. still not knowing where in the dr to go, i merely googled 'dr and prostitution' and sosua popped up as a place 'infested' with hookers and my decision as to where to go was made for me. i drafted one of my friends into the inaugural trip and the rest is history. on our next trip in june, we have added two more newbies who after hearing our stories are eager to go. maybe that's the black and white difference, we tend to share our stories more with our peers and encourage those who can to join us, thus the number of aa's grows and you see so many groups of aa's. . word of mouth seems to be the best advertisement for the dr (that and the promise of all of the pu$$why that you can handle).

another reason that the dr tends to appeal to aa's has to do with the rampant problems that exist in the romantic relationships between black men and women (i admit that that's a pretty big generalization, but a lot of brothas would agree). dr women are socialized in a way (embracing traditional female roles) that many black women are not and thus dr women are very attractive for more than just their looks. my boys become intrigued as much from my stories about how chicas treat and relate to me as they are from the butt nekkid pics.

[quote=frannie; 1144611]i just asked a question about why there are a lot of african american mongers in sosua.

i explained how i first got involved in mongering and how i eventually reached a stage in life where i paid for sex in spite of social stigma against same, and i mentioned confidentiality issues.

i wondered if paying for sex was more acceptable among african americans, since those i have met in sosua were often traveling in pair or in groups, which would mean that there were people in their home communities who knew about their mongering. i wondered if some african americans might have gotten into mongering via military service. this is often the case with caucasians, some of whom of my age like to reminisce about the girls in vietnam. (also note that the whole tourist sex industry in thailand developed because of the vietnam war.)

answers i have got include:

1. there are not many african american mongers in sosua.

2. african american communities profoundly disparage mongering.

3. a ph. d can tell family and friends that he mongers, but this does not affect him professionally. (interesting to me, because if anyone in my job knew about my mongering, my position with the agency would probably be untenable.)

4. military experience is not usually a precursor to mongering.

5. african american mongers travel to sosua from all over the eastern us.

5. caucasian mongers don't know about sosua.

no one has offered any explanation as to why there are a lot of african american mongers in sosua, many of them younger. how do they find out about sosua? what enables them to overcome the taboo against prostitution within the aa community? what about the risks of exposure for people who are in professions that would frown on mongering activity?

not that it is any big deal, but it makes for an interesting discussion. [/quote]

I have a couple of friends heading to Sosua for Easter. They are not members here so thought I would do the due dilligence. Its been awhile since I was there and I here things have chcnged due to the new female major.

Whats the girl scene like now? Where are the go to spots? The Do's and don't's? The going price?

Thye are trying to lock down accomodations and have a few choices. Whats Rocks trade winds condos like?

Thanks in advance!

Ny last comment was in response to RR comment that Dominicans are color blind.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1144638]One of my boys that I work with decided to try and shine at a company picnic. He also happened to be AA and 80% of the people at the picnic were also. He said publicly that" I go to the Dominican Republic to buy poor pussy" which pissed me off. Well before I could catch myself I said" You haven't fucked your wife in six months, maybe you need that trip". Needless to say, both of our secrets were out and his wife is pissed at both of us...[/QUOTE]That is exactly the reason why I have never told any of my male friends ANYTHING about mongering. You cannot be sure that they won't tell their wives, or some woman they are trying to impress.

If anyone ever asks me about prostitution in the DR, I will just say that prostitution is legal in almost every country other than the USA and that it is legal in the country where I was raised in Europe. I may also say that there are so many Dominican women looking for boyfriends or husbands that prostitution would be pointless for anyone who speaks Spanish.

Then I would leave it at that, because people who don't know anything about mongering don't know anything about mongering, and it is best to keep it that way and not to fuel their imaginations. Clearly your friend who had not had sex with his wife for 6 months felt jealous and insecure because he imagined you having sex with all kinds of babes.

What ever happened to The Palace in Sosua? I know John had it up for sale in 2003 (last time I was there). Did someone buy it? Does it still exist? I'm just curious about what happened there. Anyone know?

[QUOTE=Expat13; 1144775]I have a couple of friends heading to Sosua for Easter. They are not members here so thought I would do the due dilligence. Its been awhile since I was there and I here things have chcnged due to the new female major.

Whats the girl scene like now? Where are the go to spots? The Do's and don't's? The going price?

Thye are trying to lock down accomodations and have a few choices. Whats Rocks trade winds condos like?

Thanks in advance! [/QUOTE]I haven't been there in years, but I can say that Rock's places are OK. I had no problems at all staying there. YMMV. I'm used to staying in places that are fine by general standards but probably not up to middle class American vacation standards.

What are the top three massage parlors in sousa? Please consider price, looks of the girls and extras offered.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1144921]What ever happened to The Palace in Sosua? I know John had it up for sale in 2003 (last time I was there). Did someone buy it? Does it still exist? I'm just curious about what happened there. Anyone know?[/QUOTE]I last heard was that John went into real estate. If you do not know John did not have all the licenses to run the hotel so he was paying police under the table. He was not even paying taxes. Santo Domingo found out and the evidence they had for all the activity at his place was on sites like this. He tried to sell the Palace for a million but no buyers. He then tried to move away from it being a hotel and what appeared to be renting apartments (I do not know all the details of this.). He failed. I do not know if he ever sold the place. Last I heard he was in Florida. I was talking to someone several months ago, who knew him. If you are interested in more details just pm me and I'll find out from some people I know, since I have been going to DR for many years now and know some of the regulars. Back in the days it was a hell of a place!

[QUOTE=Boriman;1144946]I last heard was that John went into real estate. If you do not know John did not have all the licenses to run the hotel so he was paying police under the table. He was not even paying taxes. Santo Domingo found out and the evidence they had for all the activity at his place was on sites like this. He tried to sell the Palace for a million but no buyers. He then tried to move away from it being a hotel and what appeared to be renting apartments (I do not know all the details of this.). He failed. I do not know if he ever sold the place. Last I heard he was in Florida. I was talking to someone several months ago, who knew him. If you are interested in more details just pm me and I'll find out from some people I know, since I have been going to DR for many years now and know some of the regulars. Back in the days it was a hell of a place![/QUOTE]Thanks. PM sent.