East China - Shanghai

Minhang district has BBS and saunas by the dozens. If you're in Shanghai for mongering I'd recommend getting a hotel around Hongmei Rd and you should have lots of choices within a 5 km radius.

Sauna cost varies from 600 to 780. There are higher cost ones. I think people are overpaying sometimes because we tend to stick to the same locations which raises the prices so here's a new one to try out:

1. Hongxin Club, 600 RMB, 80 min. Standard "wet massage". On Qixin Rd near the Gudai Rd intersection. Ask around where is the "108 Plaza", the club is right across from it. The 108 Plaza has a huge yellow light sign on top of a tall building so it's not too hard to see if you're at the intersection. If you can't find 108 Plaza within 2 minutes of walking you're going the wrong way. Again it's on Qixin Rd not Gudai Rd. I was given a choice of 4 girls at around 10 pm.

BBSs's are not always my thing but if you're fine with a 20 minute non-GFE session, here are a couple of personally visually verified locations for BBSs. I have not tried them but the service should be pretty standard. BBS cost is 200 RMB for locals.

1. From Caobao Rd go south on Hongmei Rd. There's one between Donglan Rd and Pingnan Rd and another past Pingnan Rd.

2. Multiple BBSs on Gulong Rd between Hongmei Rd and Gumei Rd.

Enjoy exploring!

Well it wasn't a goal but I basically have gotten an he massage from every girl there. Here are my thoughts.

2 - nice larger chest. Better shape than most Chinese girls, slightly chubby. Has no problem with delivering a titty massage to finish. 200 tip gets you this.

6- She is fun and willing. Larger chest as well. Did the titty massage to finish. A little heavier than I like them (like # 2) but I am very particular and like petite spinners. None of these at BJ LU.

8- smaller girl, chest ok. Wants 100 to kiss them and another 100 for down below. I don't know if that's FIV or DATY. You will have to see. Still cute, thinner and more my style.

11 and 16- very similar, thin, and smaller breasts. 11 is a little shy taking her top off but she did. 16 has a nice smile. They are both thin, decent breasts and attractive. She also gave the best massage of the group.

28- she was much fun, let me kiss her chest quickly. Only asked about a tip once. We never really talked price. She was willing to slow down and not rush me until I was ready. I probably liked her the most. Same body type as 11 and 16.

Any are good for an he massage, I tried to get all of them to give a BJ or FS. I showed them I had condoms but none seemed to bite. I even offered stupid money to see if they would take it. a number of them said their boss would kill them. others said they feared the Police...... Maybe if I had spent more time with one but I really didn't want to create a favorite. They were all fun for what they did. One ting to be aware of is they talk. When I asked the last girl how much for tip she said. The same as you gave the other girls. They told me how much you give. So start low because if you don't that will be the price!!

YMMV.

SamCan.

I went to Judy's on Friday night. I like Judy's better than manhattans. The girls dancing at the bar, the live band, sometimes there are acts on stage (not sex acts, this is shanghai).

Anyway I met a small Viet. She came over to me and wanted 2000 for the night. I told her no. 1500. She said ok. As we headed to the door, I realized she was a little pudgy. (yes SamCan is very particular about this). I waived her off and walked toward another one. This time it was RAY. She is 25 years old was an 8, and a very pretty Viet. Thin, nice bottom, adequate rack up top. I quickly said how much for all night? She said 1500. I asked how many times? She said, it is up to you. She wasn't lying. We got in the cab, she snuggled up to me and put her head on my shoulder. It was GFE all the way.

I took her to my room, we showered together at her request, BJ and 3 pops. More if I wanted. She snuggled up to me in bed and held me like she actually liked me. It was 5 am and I just could not sleep with her in the room. I told her time to go. She did not want to. She wanted to stay and sleep with me. Said we could do it again. I said no, I can't sleep. She left without a scene. I am assuming my hotel room was a nicer place to stay than where she was going.

Saturday night, I headed back to Judy's. RAY came in the door and smiled. I was drinking with a new found expat friend. He told me us "tourists" were ruining the prices. I should not pay more than 1000 for all night. . I told her the other guy said 1000 for all night was enough. She quickly said ok. Back to the hotel. Same GFE and a little better second time around actually.

I lay in bed holding her breasts and rubbing her bottom while she snuggled and slept. I woke her up for a 3rd pop and she was right there ready to go. After we finished, I told her it was time to go. I had work to do Sunday and needed sleep. She got dressed to leave without question this time. Again, I could tell she was not happy leaving but she did. I have taken back a few before and was actually sorry by the business nature of it. Ray made me forget I was paying for it.

On Saturday, I had gone to Manhattans for about 10 minutes before I walked to judys. 2 girls were entering manhattans as I was leaving. Both were 7's. They offered me all night for 1000 each, 2000 for the pair. I wasn't ready to choose at that point, but I see that probably would have been a good deal as well.

I also call BS on a $50 girl at Manhattans. I am sure you can get them cheaper than 1000 during the week but 300? No way. I have had them offer 1000 starting price on a weekday. I assume you could get them for 700-800 on a slow weekday night. You will never get the 9's for that price. They know who they are. I also doubt they will be as GFE as others but I don't know. I also agree some girls hold out on weekends for as long as possible for big bucks. I was told during my last visit in March if you waited until 4 am or so, its a feeding frenzy. The girls can be had for 500.( I did not stay to see this). Of course at that point the night is almost over right?

YMMV- happy hunting, good luck. stay safe

SAM CAN.

[QUOTE=SamCan;1638561]I went to Judy's on Friday night. I like Judy's better than manhattans. The girls dancing at the bar, the live band, sometimes there are acts on stage (not sex acts, this is shanghai).

Anyway I met a small Viet. She came over to me and wanted 2000 for the night. I told her no. 1500. She said ok. As we headed to the door, I realized she was a little pudgy. (yes SamCan is very particular about this). I waived her off and walked toward another one. This time it was RAY. She is 25 years old was an 8, and a very pretty Viet. Thin, nice bottom, adequate rack up top. I quickly said how much for all night? She said 1500. I asked how many times? She said, it is up to you. She wasn't lying. We got in the cab, she snuggled up to me and put her head on my shoulder. It was GFE all the way.

I took her to my room, we showered together at her request, BJ and 3 pops. More if I wanted. She snuggled up to me in bed and held me like she actually liked me. It was 5 am and I just could not sleep with her in the room. I told her time to go. She did not want to. She wanted to stay and sleep with me. Said we could do it again. I said no, I can't sleep. She left without a scene. I am assuming my hotel room was a nicer place to stay than where she was going.

Saturday night, I headed back to Judy's. RAY came in the door and smiled. I was drinking with a new found expat friend. He told me us "tourists" were ruining the prices. I should not pay more than 1000 for all night. . I told her the other guy said 1000 for all night was enough. She quickly said ok. Back to the hotel. Same GFE and a little better second time around actually.

I lay in bed holding her breasts and rubbing her bottom while she snuggled and slept. I woke her up for a 3rd pop and she was right there ready to go. After we finished, I told her it was time to go. I had work to do Sunday and needed sleep. She got dressed to leave without question this time. Again, I could tell she was not happy leaving but she did. I have taken back a few before and was actually sorry by the business nature of it. Ray made me forget I was paying for it.

On Saturday, I had gone to Manhattans for about 10 minutes before I walked to judys. 2 girls were entering manhattans as I was leaving. Both were 7's. They offered me all night for 1000 each, 2000 for the pair. I wasn't ready to choose at that point, but I see that probably would have been a good deal as well.

I also call BS on a $50 girl at Manhattans. I am sure you can get them cheaper than 1000 during the week but 300? No way. I have had them offer 1000 starting price on a weekday. I assume you could get them for 700-800 on a slow weekday night. You will never get the 9's for that price. They know who they are. I also doubt they will be as GFE as others but I don't know. I also agree some girls hold out on weekends for as long as possible for big bucks. I was told during my last visit in March if you waited until 4 am or so, its a feeding frenzy. The girls can be had for 500.( I did not stay to see this). Of course at that point the night is almost over right?

YMMV- happy hunting, good luck. stay safe

SAM CAN.[/QUOTE]Great report Sam, and thank you for sharing. I am glad you got a great GFE experience for 1000 RMB / night. I think she really liked you. Last time I was there in early summer. The hot ones I talked to would not bulge for 1000, even for 1200. They came down from 2 k to 1. 5 K after learning that I am not a newbie or innocent tourist. But 1 k, that was the good old time or for those who are less approached, or for ST with one pop.

Judy is definitely different from Manhattan. It has a different vibe. Too me, it is more playful, and girls are more eager to please. But it has less hot girls than Manhattan. With its close vicinity, it is a nice side trip from Manhattan.

[QUOTE=Ocean25;1637639]Is it true that 999 and Hong Song are closed? The end of an era in Shanghai! Both were among my favorite places.[/QUOTE]Just closed for renovations. Opening again soon is my understanding.

Sam.

Thanks for your TOFT and report on Beijing Lu "Butterfly Massage".

It's impossible to know the truth even after knowing a provider for years. They do work long hours at these venues and have lots of down time yo watch TV and gossip. 6 tells me they get one day off per week. That's a smart move on the boss's part. I've also been told not every John tips. The house fee at several Jingan venues all went up to 268 from 208 since May. Maybe LE is the reason. I was told it was to pay for a remodel. Ha! Girl gets 123, up from 83?

Well it wasn't a goal but I basically have gotten an he massage from every girl there. Here are my thoughts.

2 - nice larger chest. Better shape than most Chinese girls, slightly chubby. Has no problem with delivering a titty massage to finish. 200 tip gets you this.

6- She is fun and willing. Larger chest as well. Did the titty massage to finish. A little heavier than I like them (like # 2) but I am very particular and like petite spinners. None of these at BJ LU.

8- smaller girl, chest ok. Wants 100 to kiss them and another 100 for down below. I don't know if that's FIV or DATY. You will have to see. Still cute, thinner and more my style.

11 and 16- very similar, thin, and smaller breasts. 11 is a little shy taking her top off but she did. 16 has a nice smile. They are both thin, decent breasts and attractive. She also gave the best massage of the group.

28- she was much fun, let me kiss her chest quickly. Only asked about a tip once. We never really talked price. She was willing to slow down and not rush me until I was ready. I probably liked her the most. Same body type as 11 and 16.

Any are good for an he massage, I tried to get all of them to give a BJ or FS. I showed them I had condoms but none seemed to bite. I even offered stupid money to see if they would take it. A number of them said their boss would kill them. Others said they feared the Police. Maybe if I had spent more time with one but I really didn't want to create a favorite. They were all fun for what they did. One ting to be aware of is they talk. When I asked the last girl how much for tip she said. The same as you gave the other girls. They told me how much you give. So start low because if you don't that will be the price!!

YMMV.

SamCan.

Hi dudes. Long time no report from me, cause some change in work situation. .

Just back from afternoon relax, I was my second time in Shaanxi road.

Girl number 2: just if you want a HJ, look 6 massage 5.

Girl number 10: she ask tips more than 200 rmb, just for be naked. I was leaving so she gave me a BJ undercover in the shower. Look 6 BJ 5.

Really I miss my gems in gubei. That location is closed.

Some good subjection about others number there?

Or any update for the yellow name foot massage?

See you bro.

Inspired by SamCan's post below, I went to Judys for first time. I figured there was really no difference between Manhattan and Judy's so I never went there. Looked around and settled for a Viet named Han (? Not sure of the name). 25 years old. Not too short and a very nice rack up top. Followed the pricing guide below and negotiated for 1300 LT. She offered 2 K and I offered 1 K. She then offered 1500 and 1400, and I went from 1200 to 1300. Eventually I felt like giving her 300 more than the earlier mentioned price would get me some additional benefits later on.

I felt like I was treating her quite well during the taxi ride back, but she seemed pretty distant throughout the ride. Didn't really care to ask me anything or talk to me. Bad sign #1. When we got to the hotel she immediately asked for money (bad sign #2). She went for the shower, washed briefly, and seemed to be in a hurry to get to the action. Looking at her body after her shower it looks like she's had a see-section. I undressed and as soon as I lied down, she went to put a condom on. I'm like wait a minute, I've never had anything but BBBJ from Viets so this was new. Her facial expression during this time was of concern or anxiety or something otherwise uncomfortable. I wanted her to be comfortable, so I let her do her CBJ and was again surprised that it lasted for a whole 20 seconds. Despite that, she did have a nice figure, so I was already hard now. I really got nothing from the CBJ and it was only her body that did the trick. So now she put it in and went to cowgirl which I was enjoying, but she asked me to get on top after another 30 seconds. Didn't really want to change positions at that time but I obliged. After a few more somewhat forced position changes I blew my load inside the cover. I pulled out and looked at her and saw an expression of general discomfort or dissatisfaction. I asked her if there's anything wrong, something I did or the location and she said things were fine. I was contemplating at that time whether to take a loss and let her go. I'm definitely not getting anywhere with her and I felt like neither of us were looking forward to spending the night. I gave her the option to leave and she seemed happy to do so. Overall pretty poor experience especially for the money. This is a BBS-like experience that I could have had for 200 RMB.

OK so thinking back, I probably should have taken bad sign #1 and asked the cabbie to return to Judys during the ride. Anyone with advice please chime in here. Where do you stop and just return the girl to her hang out? As soon as she gets in the hotel room it's going to be trouble getting her out so I'm thinking it's best to get rid of girls like this before she gets in.

[QUOTE=Tasss;1638946]Inspired by SamCan's post below, I went to Judys for first time.
.[/QUOTE]Sorry it didn't work out for you. As always YMMV. I do agree the girls at both are the same. Judy's just feels more like a bar to me vs a meat market. They are but one in the same.

I have also had bad experiences. I brought home a thin Chinese girl from Guangzhou at Manhattan's once. She took forever to take off her make up and shower that I almost lost interest. She was so thin, she didn't even have a chest. I guess it was all creative stuffing. She had the body of a girl before puberty (not something that turns me on mind you). After one pop, I threw her out. It didn't work for me. She was also so business like, it wasn't any fun.

I tend to take my lumps and let them go when it doesn't work. Forcing bad sex never works. At least not for me.

I would like to tell you warming them up with taking and touching at the bar helps make sure they are into you and helps get a good one but it never helped me.

As a matter of Fact, the first words out of my mouth to RAY were "how much?. Let's go" It worked out but was probably dumb luck.

Best I can tell you is go back to Judy's. Look for a girl in a black dress showing some decent cleavage. (she had the same dress both nights). If she is 5'3" to 5"6" (Hard to recall because of her high heels on her beige shoes) and says her name is RAY, take her home with you. You won't be disappointed. Remember I paid 1500 the first time. I probably could have got her for less maybe. The next night I did but she also know what she was getting.

Tell her Sam misses her and he wishes he came back his 3rd (and final night) in shanghai.

SAM CAN.

Not much of a report, but I went to East Nanjing Road for the first time.

It's. An interesting experience. Do touts figure that if they annoy you enough, you'll give up and follow them?

'No. ' Doesn't seem to register with them. I made a point with one, and gave a random beggar 50 yuan to get her to back off.

There was one that wanted to go have coffee with her, 'no need to be in a hurry' and all that. She was decent looking, but no go for me.

Kind of puts me off from actually looking for any places for fun around there.

[QUOTE=HangSeng;1639229]Not much of a report, but I went to East Nanjing Road for the first time.

It's. An interesting experience. Do touts figure that if they annoy you enough, you'll give up and follow them?

'No. ' Doesn't seem to register with them. I made a point with one, and gave a random beggar 50 yuan to get her to back off.

There was one that wanted to go have coffee with her, 'no need to be in a hurry' and all that. She was decent looking, but no go for me.

Kind of puts me off from actually looking for any places for fun around there.[/QUOTE]Yeah dude forget about that area for having fun! Try having a read of the forum and finding some of the other places that are more interesting in Shanghai. Nanjing road is just a scammer area.

[QUOTE=Blacklisted;1639261]Yeah dude forget about that area for having fun! Try having a read of the forum and finding some of the other places that are more interesting in Shanghai. Nanjing road is just a scammer area.[/QUOTE]All day and evening it is nothing but scammers, but if you are walking around out there after 11 PM. I believe most of the scammers have gone home and the actual working girls come out. I've picked up twice there after hours (I like to stay near there to have access to stores and restaurants when in town). They just whisper "sex massage". Not pushy or loud. Definitely keeping it on the down low.

I don't think it should be a destination for seeking them out, but if you're there anyway I've found opportunity. It has been 2 years however since I've been there at that hour. And havinig a hotel within easy walking distance made it convenient.

[QUOTE=HangSeng;1639229]Not much of a report, but I went to East Nanjing Road for the first time.

It's. An interesting experience. Do touts figure that if they annoy you enough, you'll give up and follow them?

'No. ' Doesn't seem to register with them. I made a point with one, and gave a random beggar 50 yuan to get her to back off.

There was one that wanted to go have coffee with her, 'no need to be in a hurry' and all that. She was decent looking, but no go for me.

Kind of puts me off from actually looking for any places for fun around there.[/QUOTE]If the touts annoy you, and if you have a camera, take a photo of them. As they talk, keep clicking. Scares them off in no time.

If they approach you and appear to be selling you can try my trick: I took off my watch and back-pack and as one approached I said in English, "Sell you my watch? Sell you my bag? Do you want to buy?" he laughed and was embarrassed and his tout-mates also laughed. Probably the first time that a foreigner had wanted to sell him something! Hahaha.

YMMV.

Enjoy and report.

P13.

[QUOTE=AsianLover;1632940]You really should read the forum and you will find these answers but being in a helpful mood, I will highlight some places:

Massages: 1808 Beijing Road and YuYuan road (I think the address is 250). Both are near the temple. Then there are several and Shanxi Road North. They have been written about but I have never been.

Spa: The best one is in the knock of mart. Fend Ding Wan or something like that. It's on Nanjing Road near People's Park.

Pick up bars: WG hang out at these bars. Check the recent posts for long-term and short-term. They are all on or near Tongren Lu and Nanjing Road, right near the Portman Ritz Carlton and Kerry Center. Malones is an irish pub. A Phillpino cover band plays there on weekends. They play good classic Rock & Roll. Older WG and some locals hang out there. Judy's is across Nanjing Road. WG hang out there as well, some locals, some Viets and a mix. Finally, the biggest is Manhattan which is right off of Tongren Lu. It gets busy 11 PM on weekends. Lots of Viets there, some Thai, some LB. Try all 3 as they are within a 5 minute walk of each other.

There are also some bars at Xintindi where you can pick up women. I have never been there but read about Paulanders and some others.

Happy hunting and post some reviews.

AL.[/QUOTE]Cheers for this, not decided where I'll be staying, but its good to know where the action is!

[QUOTE=SimonWagstaff;1632975]I am not all that experienced and only been to Shanghai once but had a most amazing time at Bodi spa, entrance is to the left of the entrance to the Bodi hotel, right off some highway, can't miss it. 880 RMB. Hot tub, steam room, sauna, beer, women. I still think of Miss 965![/QUOTE]This Spa looks good too! What does the 880 include?