General Info

Corrected for Sharks:

-areöHM-Straße 72.

64293 Darmstadt.

Club Mediteran looks to be the name that shows up on Google Street view when I put in the address for Mondial.

And yeah, this isn't a completely exhaustive list.

I'm making what is becoming my bi-annual FKK tour of Frankfurt on these dates (and also made visits to Oase in 2012 and 2013) so know the scene well. Oase is my favourite with Sharks not far behind and am planning the following:

Tue. Oase.

Wed. Palace.

Thu. Sharks.

Fri. Will decide based on which one I liked the most of the above (on previous form likely to be Oase).

I discount World as although my experience of 2 days in 2013 was positive in terms of quality and service, the line up wasn't big enough compared to Oase and Sharks to justify the distance. Mainhatten I discount due to my perception that the numbers are lower than Oase and Sharks and they don't have the same outdoor area (I always like a big line-up to choose from and in the summer lounging around outside). Palace, despite the poor reviews here from regulars is somewhere I'd like to visit out of curiosity and the variety of nationalities is a bonus but guess if it lives down to its reputation I can always bail out and go to Mainhatten? Its only if the weather is nice, I'd be tempted to stay and enjoy the gardens at Oase on Wednesday and drop Palace for another time.

I only choose the above order as I'm assuming line-up will be similarly diminished in numbers and I have more girls I'd like to repeat with at Oase (Fidan, Jennifer, Ella, Ramona / Sabina though I believe she is no longer around) as compared to Sharks where I would only repeat for sure with Tanya and Pamela (and again I understand from these boards that Pamela has moved on).

However, in short, between Oase and Sharks is there any reason to choose one over the other on a Tuesday?

I always could not comprehend why all FKK girls provide free BBBJ but many refuse to DFK and some even light kissing. What is special about kissing vs. BBBJ? Any clues are appreciated.

BBBJ is something the club requires then to do.

DFK may be viewed as more intimate and reserved for their private life.

I'm with you, it's an unsolved FKK mystery.

HB.

[QUOTE=Sanuk327;1758033]I always could not comprehend why all FKK girls provide free BBBJ but many refuse to DFK and some even light kissing. What is special about kissing vs. BBBJ? Any clues are appreciated.[/QUOTE]If a girl does not give BBBJ to her client, she can not survive in any FKK club of Hessen area. Yes, she can not even survive in FKK Palace. Many girls don't do DFK or charge extra for DFK, but they can survive in FKK Palace. They can even survive in other FKK clubs if they have pretty faces.

[QUOTE=HeyyyyyyPaul;1757137]Corrected for Sharks:

-areHM-Strae 72.

64293 Darmstadt.

Club Mediteran looks to be the name that shows up on Google Street view when I put in the address for Mondial.

And yeah, this isn't a completely exhaustive list.[/QUOTE]Just look up the club names, and you will get the addresses. Club Mediterranean is the former name of Mondial. For those looking for an app you can download offline maps for navigation. Somebody mentioned Nokia HERE which is a free app.

[QUOTE=Sanuk327;1758033]I always could not comprehend why all FKK girls provide free BBBJ but many refuse to DFK and some even light kissing. What is special about kissing vs. BBBJ? Any clues are appreciated.[/QUOTE]

BBBJ is NOT free, it is (or should be) part of the standard service offering in most decent German clubs / FKKs / etc, just like (covered) intercourse is included (and not free). This also used to be valid for DFK. Both (BBBJ and DFK) standard services are THE reason many people from Holland (and other neigbouring countries, where DFK / BBBJ are scarce, at least with beautiful young ladies) travel so far to Germany. A pity that this "standard service" is rapidly declining in Germany, especially in the bigger, "touristic" clubs like Palace, Oase, Golden Time, etc. In smaller clubs you still tend to find good DFK and BBBJ as standard, in some even including CIM / CIF with the standard price. Best area (from a service perspective) are clubs in NRW, Hessen second, more south (Bayern) and north (Hannover/Hamburg) are usually not good (and/or more expensive) options (exceptions of course aside).

Most experienced mongers here, who value DFK high on their wish list, therefore critically check the service level of girls in bigger clubs before going to the room or even avoid the bigger touristic clubs in Germany.

[QUOTE=Maxime;1758450]BBBJ is NOT free, it is (or should be) part of the standard service offering in most decent German clubs / FKKs / etc, just like (covered) intercourse is included (and not free). This also used to be valid for DFK. Both (BBBJ and DFK) standard services are THE reason many people from Holland (and other neigbouring countries, where DFK / BBBJ are scarce, at least with beautiful young ladies) travel so far to Germany. A pity that this "standard service" is rapidly declining in Germany, especially in the bigger, "touristic" clubs like Palace, Oase, Golden Time, etc. In smaller clubs you still tend to find good DFK and BBBJ as standard, in some even including CIM / CIF with the standard price. Best area (from a service perspective) are clubs in NRW, Hessen second, more south (Bayern) and north (Hannover/Hamburg) are usually not good (and/or more expensive) options (exceptions of course aside).

Most experienced mongers here, who value DFK high on their wish list, therefore critically check the service level of girls in bigger clubs before going to the room or even avoid the bigger touristic clubs in Germany.[/QUOTE]Good insight. My question was more about FKK girls attitude towards DFK vs. BBBJ rather about money and clubs standards. Why girls treat DFK as more intimate than BBBJ? When people are young, they usually start relationship with kissing, and then proceed to sex. In contrary, FKK girls are more keen to BBBJ rather to kiss. In both acts the actual kissing is involved...

[QUOTE=Sanuk327;1758582]Good insight. My question was more about FKK girls attitude towards DFK vs. BBBJ rather about money and clubs standards. Why girls treat DFK as more intimate than BBBJ? When people are young, they usually start relationship with kissing, and then proceed to sex. In contrary, FKK girls are more keen to BBBJ rather to kiss. In both acts the actual kissing is involved...[/QUOTE]BJ is just fo the job (and it's a must), kiss is for the love in some way. Some girls take kiss as a part of their personal life, like adding their whatsapp is easy but adding their FB is usually more difficult. They say kiss is only for their men. Kiss is kind of symbol for close relationship, we've seen that all over the movies, tv, etc. When we see two people kissing, we say oh they are in love; however when we know two people having sex, we doubt whether it's ONS or alcohol or what. In another word, we take kiss as the sign of love, but we can have sex(BJ is usually part of it) for any reasons. It's just how most of us tend to think.

For myself, I can fuck girls I don't really like, but I can't kiss them, I mean DFK, just no passion

For sure, at many times, girls will use it as an excuse for doing less or getting more, but I think it's not what you were really asking in th first place.

Well, we have reports, and some girls are constantly well reported based on certain requirements of a session. And most often, DFK is an important criteria when it comes to gauging the service with a girl. As Maxime has pointed out, some clubs it's almost guaranteed, like the service clubs. DFK in the FKK world is factor that brings in more business for the girls. The girls that do it, and can put on a good illusion, the punters will take more liking to her, and her reputation will go up. Also, like Faceless has pointed out, some girls, they use it as a tactic to pull up their earnings since it's popular requirement with many men.

Some girls do it as it's what they need to provide to increase her earnings. It's not easy for most girls, so not all will do this. Some girls seem to do it like they prefer it over other activities in the room. For some, it's too much effort or emotional energy that goes into it to provide an high illusion. Just too much work for them mentally. Also, there are some that will have an easier time doing with certain guys over others which the YMMV comes in. It's not love or anything of that sort, it's just who they find it easier to provide that service or monetary reward to it. There are various reasons for it.

I think the draw of the FKK is what is generally not there in a RLD. Although there is the standard of what minimum a girl will do like BBBJ and fucking, how many times do we hear the term GFE? Some for a lot of men, that illusion put on by the WG gives that feeling of GFE. DFK is part of that formula. You hear lots of guys talk about mechanical sessions and etc. , and more intimacy ups the quality of time with a girl.

Indeed it will differ per girl also: many girls prefer BBBJ over DFK, but there are certainly also girls who think DFK is more easy then BBBJ.

Also for the men it will differ: for me DFK is a requirement to have good (sex, BBBJ adds even more to a good session. DFK and BBBJ without sex even happes sometimes and can be a very good experience after all.

[QUOTE=Maxime;1758905]Indeed it will differ per girl also: many girls prefer BBBJ over DFK, but there are certainly also girls who think DFK is more easy then BBBJ.

Also for the men it will differ: for me DFK is a requirement to have good (sex, BBBJ adds even more to a good session. DFK and BBBJ without sex even happes sometimes and can be a very good experience after all.[/QUOTE]For me DFK is a must and first question I usually ask. CIM (as extra) is the second condition as I like to cum without rubber. It was only on one occasion in NRW when I could not find both and left for that reason.

[QUOTE=Sanuk327;1758033]I always could not comprehend why all FKK girls provide free BBBJ but many refuse to DFK and some even light kissing. What is special about kissing vs. BBBJ? Any clues are appreciated.[/QUOTE]I agree, it's a mystery. Somehow DFK is seen to be more intimate and personal. I've never had a girl refusing to do BBBJ and almost all agreed to CIM as well. In some places DFK was scarce but in others it was standard, like in LR. I can't understand how taking a mans cum in her mouth can be less intimate than kissing with tounge.

It's all about the emotional connections.

[QUOTE=Hermann666;1759206]I can't understand how taking a mans cum in her mouth can be less intimate than kissing with tounge.[/QUOTE]It's all about the money.

When talking about CIM it's all about the 50 euro extra.

None of the girls would take your cum in mouth if it wasn't for the 50 euro extra.

And it's sort of the same with the kissing, if the girls was allowed to charge you extra euro for kissing with tongue I think 100 percent of the girls would let you put your tongue into her mouth without hesitation. Money is always number one for the girls at FKK clubs.