Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Rafzuh; 1208204]Let me clear this up. I don't think I'm dashing (and I apologize to those who took offense at describing my appearance as its probably unnecessary).

I'm OKAY with p4p. Thats why I mentioned 'Mansion', as in Casa Blanca. The only reason why I said anything about my age is because I wanted to know if I will be out of place at Casa blanca. I don't know Spanish (I do however know basic Spanish NOT conversational). I am going to be learning a little more before I depart. But I already know that speaking Spanish will def. Help increase the odds if you want a non pro. But me, I don't plan on going non-pro. I've seen what Casa Blanca is about, and trust me, I'm all for it!

Anyways, to reiterate. I want to know if a 25 something like me will be out of place hanging out / staying in any of the Casa |Blanca rooms with girls readily available. I only P4P because it is exciting, and something different. And saves a lot of time hunting.

Now gentlemen, I only came on this forum and asked these questions because this is a discussion forum, and based on previous posts, I thought we were supposed to help each other out. If I had been to Colombia I'd definitely help out a newbie (experienced Cuba goer, and have contributed, AND helped those seeking).

I know there are lots of people here that are willing to help.

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]Rafzuh,

I don't think you won't be out of place at MM or in casas or anywhere in Medellin. The chicas will flock to you because most of them can relate to you easier, as your similar age to them. The girls will date men 30-40 years older than them. And it is generally accepted.

My first trip to Medellin I was 24, seven years ago. It was and still is, for the most part, like being the only kid in the candy store!

Have fun and post a report when you get back.

[QUOTE=PapaMac; 1208227]Rafzuh,

I don't think you won't be out of place at MM or in casas or anywhere in Medellin. The chicas will flock to you because most of them can relate to you easier, as your similar age to them. The girls will date men 30-40 years older than them. And it is generally accepted.

My first trip to Medellin I was 24, seven years ago. It was and still is, for the most part, like being the only kid in the candy store!

Have fun and post a report when you get back.[/QUOTE]I have also been to Bogota, Cartagena and baranquilla many times. If you are decent looking and can carry around a translator and have a tiny bit of spanish you can enjoy both pro and non pro. I would hit the non pros from Thursday through the weekend and the pros during the days. Avoid sitting around the pool with the guys and drinking and go sit at a bar in lleras or ask around what bars are good on any particular night. Non pros really don't travel in packs of ladies but rather with their boyfriends or someone that can pick up their drinks. Badoo is a good place to meet non pros. I have banged and still bang colombians from all parts of the country and very rarley pay for the sex but of course I enjoy paying their cab fees and dinners and for their bowling, movies, clothes. To name a few! I speak spanish but I am a gringo that somehow picked it up pretty fast after about 8 university courses.

[QUOTE=BigTennis;1208398]I have also been to Bogota, Cartagena and baranquilla many times. If you are decent looking and can carry around a translator and have a tiny bit of spanish you can enjoy both pro and non pro. I would hit the non pros from Thursday through the weekend and the pros during the days. Avoid sitting around the pool with the guys and drinking and go sit at a bar in lleras or ask around what bars are good on any particular night. Non pros really don't travel in packs of ladies but rather with their boyfriends or someone that can pick up their drinks. Badoo is a good place to meet non pros. I have banged and still bang colombians from all parts of the country and very rarley pay for the sex but of course I enjoy paying their cab fees and dinners and for their bowling, movies, clothes. To name a few! I speak spanish but I am a gringo that somehow picked it up pretty fast after about 8 university courses.[/QUOTE]8 Classes at university? That's Span 101-202 (4 classes total) and 4 more in advanced culture, literature, or grammar. I certainly hope you picked up some Spanish after 4 years in class LOL! My Spanish minor was 12 classes (two abroad) and it was the best investment I've ever made in myself!

Newbies, rookies, even OG in country mongers. Learn REAL Spanish and your world will OPEN UP to almost LIMITLESS possibilities in Spanish speaking countries with women!

I have had the blessings and good fortune to have pulled many waitresses, bartenders, casino dealers and floor staff, coffee shop girls both working and guests, girls in the mall, night clubs, and even on the street waiting for the bus. My fave scores were the girls working in the service (Non Sex) industry because they get hit on all the time so they are very guarded and sometimes instructed to not to go out with customers. It's the challenge and courtship I guess you can call it that I enjoy with non-pros. While some of my "coffee shop" might not have been as hot, pretty, or sexy as some of the Pre-Pagos I've been with they have been more memorable because of the "Trill of the Hunt", the risk of failure (there has been PLENTY of failure!) , and the feeling of accomplishment. Having $80K in your back pocket for a TLN is also a good insurance policy too! Hahaha.

NOTE: I am not trying to brag or get all "Dear Penthouse" or "My game is the best" it's not. But I want to use my experiences to illustrate how important a the gift of gab is in ANY LANGUAGE! So if you're serious about it LEARN DECENT SPANISH!

[QUOTE=BigTennis;1208398]I have also been to Bogota, Cartagena and baranquilla many times. If you are decent looking and can carry around a translator and have a tiny bit of spanish you can enjoy both pro and non pro. I would hit the non pros from Thursday through the weekend and the pros during the days. Avoid sitting around the pool with the guys and drinking and go sit at a bar in lleras or ask around what bars are good on any particular night. Non pros really don't travel in packs of ladies but rather with their boyfriends or someone that can pick up their drinks. Badoo is a good place to meet non pros. I have banged and still bang colombians from all parts of the country and very rarley pay for the sex but of course I enjoy paying their cab fees and dinners and for their bowling, movies, clothes. To name a few! I speak spanish but I am a gringo that somehow picked it up pretty fast after about 8 university courses.[/QUOTE]Grasshoppers: there is no such thing as free pussy. Say it 1000 thousand times. Believe it. Live it. You will be closer to enlightenment.

Only good energy

It seems to me that the single most important thing you can do is learn the spanish language, which I consider myself highly intelligent but cannot seem to pick it up, I must be much dumber than I suspected, Does any one have any advice on how they mastered this tough language, it would be appreciated, and I only stress this because, yes Looks are important, but you pretty much need have the heredity you were born with there,

[QUOTE=PapaMac; 1208227]Rafzuh,

I don't think you won't be out of place at MM or in casas or anywhere in Medellin. The chicas will flock to you because most of them can relate to you easier, as your similar age to them. The girls will date men 30-40 years older than them. And it is generally accepted.

My first trip to Medellin I was 24, seven years ago. It was and still is, for the most part, like being the only kid in the candy store!

Have fun and post a report when you get back.[/QUOTE]Thank you. THANK YOU!

I have other questions, but more in regards to the Casa itself. So I will post in the casa blanca section. However, I'll bring it up here as well.

I was planning to leave on the 12th for 4 nights, but looks like casa I and II are booked solid. Spoke to Alexa and she says that its possible to accommodate me in II on the 13th. I know this has been brought up MANY times, but I believe there is a difference in I and II, correct?

Also, I'm flying out of Ontario Canada, and my flight (at least 1 stop) is about $1k! Does anyone know any travel sites where I can grab a good deal?

Thanks again.

"it seems to me that the single most important thing you can do is learn the spanish language, which i consider myself highly intelligent but cannot seem to pick it up, i must be much dumber than i suspected, does any one have any advice on how they mastered this tough language, it would be appreciated, and i only stress this because, yes looks are important, but you pretty much need have the heredity you were born with there."

spanish is a very easy language to learn at a basic level. very clear pronunciation rules and, for a native english speaker, virtually the same alphabet. also there are lots of cognates. so, as can readily be seen by your posting history, you have a room temperature iq at best and this likely explains your lack of success with the language.

for those who are slightly more gifted, listening to spanish radio in your takes no actual study time and does sink in after a while. boring and vapid, but even more effective, is watching spanish soap operas (telenovelas). watching a mix of english tv with spanish subtitles and spanish tv with english subtitles is also a good way to learn. or buy an english language and spanish language newspaper from the same date and location. then once you get a bit of background, write down unfamiliar words you see on the street and look them up later.

reading simple novels like treasure island, the adventures of tom sawyer, and rain man was helpful to me as i advanced in skill. i already knew the plot so i could glean the meaning of some unfamiliar words without stopping to look them up. this helped build my reading speed once i was already fairly fluid in my speech.

then at some point you have to immerse yourself in situations where you cannot fall back on your native language. spending time with prostitutes is one way to accomplish this, as is going to bum fuck towns in the middle of nowhere, where even the people working in the hospitality industry have little or no english.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1208519]Spending time with prostitutes is one way to accomplish this, as is going to bum fuck towns in the middle of nowhere, where even the people working in the hospitality industry have little or no English.[/QUOTE]This was exactly the way I learned. I arrived in Bogota in 2004 with very limited Spanish. I have never taken a formal Spanish class, but years of chasing skirt from Costa Rica to Argentina gave priceless practice, and fine-tuned my ear to various regional accents. Dealing with girls with NO ENGLISH was the only way to go.

Of course, this was my third active language, not second, which made learning easier.

[QUOTE=Rafzuh; 1208518]Thank you. THANK YOU!

Does anyone know any travel sites where I can grab a good deal?

Thanks again.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.spirit.com[/url]

$572. 60 if you leave on 14th and come back on 22nd. Flight leaves from Niagara Falls. American side; (

[quote=dickhead; 1208519]"it seems to me that the single most important thing you can do is learn the spanish language, which i consider myself highly intelligent but cannot seem to pick it up, i must be much dumber than i suspected, does any one have any advice on how they mastered this tough language, it would be appreciated, and i only stress this because, yes looks are important, but you pretty much need have the heredity you were born with there."

spanish is a very easy language to learn at a basic level. very clear pronunciation rules and, for a native english speaker, virtually the same alphabet. also there are lots of cognates. so, as can readily be seen by your posting history, you have a room temperature iq at best and this likely explains your lack of success with the language.

for those who are slightly more gifted, listening to spanish radio in your takes no actual study time and does sink in after a while. boring and vapid, but even more effective, is watching spanish soap operas (telenovelas). watching a mix of english tv with spanish subtitles and spanish tv with english subtitles is also a good way to learn. or buy an english language and spanish language newspaper from the same date and location. then once you get a bit of background, write down unfamiliar words you see on the street and look them up later.

reading simple novels like treasure island, the adventures of tom sawyer, and rain man was helpful to me as i advanced in skill. i already knew the plot so i could glean the meaning of some unfamiliar words without stopping to look them up. this helped build my reading speed once i was already fairly fluid in my speech.

then at some point you have to immerse yourself in situations where you cannot fall back on your native language. spending time with prostitutes is one way to accomplish this, as is going to bum fuck towns in the middle of nowhere, where even the people working in the hospitality industry have little or no english.[/quote]hey, listen to me dickhead (i am having fun writing this to someone who calls himself dickhead lol) ,

i too have been struggling with these issues. i have tried community college courses, tapes, computer courses. by far the most sucessful for me has been my one-on-one skype internet lessons. i have a lady in ecuador that i take lessons with. i pay her $8. 00 per hour. she is a professional spanish teacher with 12 years of experience. the advantages of doing it this way are numerous. you get instant feedback on everything with a a very friendly and encouraging person. you learn at your own pace. when i first started, i could barely string a sentence together. now, at the beginning of every lesson we spend about 10 minutes of everyday chit-chat (like you would have with a chica you just met). i now hold normal conversations in spanish. at her price point, i will continue to take lessons for a long, long time. if you would like contact info, please send me a private message.

[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1208795]Hey, listen to me dickhead (I am having fun writing this to someone who calls himself dickhead LOL) ,

I too have been struggling with these issues. I have tried community college courses, tapes, computer courses. By far the most sucessful for me has been my one-on-one Skype Internet lessons. I have a lady in Ecuador that I take lessons with. I pay her $8. 00 per hour. She is a professional Spanish teacher with 12 years of experience. The advantages of doing it this way are numerous. You get instant feedback on everything with a a very friendly and encouraging person. You learn at your own pace. When I first started, I could barely string a sentence together. Now, at the beginning of every lesson we spend about 10 minutes of everyday chit-chat (like you would have with a chica you just met). I now hold normal conversations in Spanish. At her price point, I will continue to take lessons for a long, long time. If you would like contact info, please send me a private message.[/QUOTE]Why not befriend a girl online that lives in a spanish speaking country and talk to her on Skype and save the $8 an hour for buying more pussy. I have two girls I speak with on Skype, one of which I speak to every night for about two hours. It has helped me tremendously.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1208799]Why not befriend a girl online that lives in a spanish speaking country and talk to her on Skype and save the $8 an hour for buying more pussy. I have two girls I speak with on Skype, one of which I speak to every night for about two hours. It has helped me tremendously.[/QUOTE]$8USD an hour? That girl is stoked! Tax free that's more than most people make an hour in the USA take home. AND she didn't have to put some dude's wrinkled balls in her mouth!

Language is alive you have to experience it to truly lean it. Like when you were a kid; mom or dad just tossed the kids into the pool to teach them to swim. Same thing!

In my experience, most girls I've met don't have 24/7 internet access. How have you overcome this issue? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1208799]Why not befriend a girl online that lives in a spanish speaking country and talk to her on Skype and save the $8 an hour for buying more pussy. I have two girls I speak with on Skype, one of which I speak to every night for about two hours. It has helped me tremendously.[/QUOTE]

You could pay $8 an hour to a professional Spanish teacher or you could learn by chatting with random native speakers. The former could result in learning very good Spanish while the latter could result in talking like a homey from the hood. I learned Spanish on the streets and when I later took some formal classes, I realized that not only was my grammar not very good but that I did not know what slang was acceptable vs. rather rude. So I think Esteban's approach is a good one and Manizales' is sort of a fall back position if $8 per hour is a lot of money to a particular person at a particular time in their life. However, and perhaps importantly, how do we define a "professional" Spanish teacher? I am certified to teach ESL (English as a second language) so I suppose that makes me a "professional" English teacher. I am [B]not[/B] certified to teach Spanish. However, I have been a lot more successful in teaching English speakers to speak Spanish than I have been in teaching Spanish speakers to speak English. I've taught a lot of things over the years and I would sure hope that $8 an hour would not be viewed as excessive for a highly qualified person. I caught two students buying a paper from a paper mill in India and I caught them because a) the paper was so good and b) the two assholes bought the same paper. A lot of things pissed me off about this incident but the fact they paid the guy $2 an hour pissed me off more than anything.

Agreed, a combination of "throw yourself in the pool" by simply talking as much as possible with the natives along with formal classes is a great two-pronged approach. Getting into "trapped" situations, such as riding in a bus or collectivo and striking up a conversation, bullshitting with a cab driver, or best yet, long-time pillow talk with a chica has provided me at least one word or phrase per conversation that was new to me. Also agree that while conversation with las desecuadas is simple, spanish has so many levels, the various subjunctive clauses, pluperfect, imperative, etc that can be very daunting at first. To me, it's been like a series of doors. I walk through one door, then realize there's another in front of me. Thousands of colloqualisms and expressions, different ones in each country. All the while you work on your gringo accent with the are's and the's.

The thing that really made me take quantum leaps in spanish was immersion classes, two in Costa rica, one in Cartagena. They are expensive, but worth every penny. A good immersion school will challenge you, put you past your level of comfort, but in a fun way. And 8 hours a day listening to spanish really forms new pathways in the brain. Turning on spanish subtitles on the latina telenovelas has been an education, once watched the entire Rosario Tijares soap opera from Medellin. Though I've found that all criminals in telenovelas talk very fast and speak really crappy spanish, but you'll pick up some interesting dirty words!

Reading books can be difficult as I've found that written spanish can diverge from spoken spanish much more than english. But try books for adolescents, they're easier to read, but still challenging. Cuidad de las Bestias by Isabella Allende was very interesting.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1208891]You could pay $8 an hour to a professional Spanish teacher or you could learn by chatting with random native speakers. The former could result in learning very good Spanish while the latter could result in talking like a homey from the hood. I learned Spanish on the streets and when I later took some formal classes, I realized that not only was my grammar not very good but that I did not know what slang was acceptable vs. rather rude. So I think Esteban's approach is a good one and Manizales' is sort of a fall back position if $8 per hour is a lot of money to a particular person at a particular time in their life.[/QUOTE]