Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1244718]After the recent price hikes in Zona Sul, T65 is actually cheaper than MC, L'Uomo, C, or Solarium. It's like R$400 for an hour at T65 including entrada, and substantially higher at the other joints unless you get the entrada wavied (like MC's frequent fucker program). I wouldn't even consider it in the same crazy price range as C.[/QUOTE]Wow, the world is turning upside down! I've not been in Rio since November so I haven't, yet, had to bite the bullet with the price rises. Even more reason to head for the suburbs IMO. LOL!

By the way Cartmann, keep posting too! I enjoy reading of your adventures!

Since I started going to Rio I notice the same way you have different level on working girls you have different levels of mongers with their own price range they are willing to pay and what they can afford. And were they are willing to go and find a hooker.

Over the years the prices have gone up even when Club Help was open you could read reports of how guys was crying about the prices the girls were trying to charge them.

I had to adjust my habits and how often I go to Rio and how much I will spend when I am there. I use to go to Rio 3-4 times a year sometimes more like 5 times a year than I cut back to 1-2 times a year now I was going once every other year I use to do 4-5 girls a day LOL now I am down to 1-2 times a day.

Now, as far as VM goes that isn't my style I been there years ago and it didn't take me long to realize that is wasn't for me there is some good chicken up there I must say and the music is kickin BUT that isn't what I go to Rio for to eat chicken and listen to music LOL

I like to feel comfortable and be comfortable I seen guys go down there on a budget and stay 3-4 in a room and sleeping in the closet LOL I rather spend more on a 1st class plane ticket than being all packed in coach for a 9 hours flight I know many mongers would rather use that money I spend on a plane ticket and stay a month in Rio on vacation LOL but that is their thing not mines.

Everyone have a different budget they are on and they shouldn't go broke if they can't afford to go to higher end places. As much heat that Centaurus take on here and other places on the net with their high prices I don't think they will close their doors anytime soon or will the girls go hungry there each time I go there I see Japanese mongers in there ballin out of control and tipping girls left and right I was in the locker room and seen one chick go in there in grab this Japanese guy wallet and took 300 reals out of it and folded it up and put it in her bar. LOL after he already did session with her and paid up front. She just kiss him and said thank you baby and smile and walk away LOL

As long as girls keep ripping and preying on guys like that they will be find. Will I keep on going there yes I will! You see I don't live in Rio and I don't have to be on a major budget to live day by day I save up my money and go there every few years will I do 2-3 sessions at Centaurus hell no I will maybe do one chick there and try to get phone numbers and see a few after they finish working I have seen some real dimes in that place over the years many girls can't stand the heat from being around other fine looking girls and go to lower end Termas and be a star there and get their pussy blown out daily by lower paying Tricks.

There was a time I wouldn't even waste my time going to Balcony when Club Help was open now I go there get some food and drink a soda before I go home IF I see something hot I will talk to her and if I don't like what she is saying I move on and get a good night sleep.

I can't see myself flying that far to Rio jumping on and off of hot ass buses walking miles and miles trying to save a few reals on taxi fare and climbing up and down apts. Stairs trying to find a diamond in the rough BUT like everyone have said to each his own I don't knock a guy trying to save a buck I drive a older car weekly and drive my nice SUV on the weekend to save gas LOL so I am down with saving a buck but like I said I don't live in Rio so I am not going to eat at Bob's and eat a number 2 everyday with a large order of fries to save a dollar or two LOL

But, by all means everyone if you want to post do so if you don't I understand there are places I go to that I don't want to see ruin and fuck up and I only tell guys I know who know how to act LOL I seen to many places in Rio get ruin over the years BUT will the lost of jobs, guys losing homes and wives and girlfriends now many can't afford to go on vacation or if they do they can't afford to pay 400 reals a pop on pussy if they go to Rio now they have to do the cheaper VM thing or go to Apt and pay by the min.

Look guys life is short and to me there are other things that are important to me like my 401k, and my Roth account and saving up MORE money for good retirement and I have already paid off my houses etc. The point I am making is we are going to have different views and different goals when we go to Rio some guys I have met over the decades that go to Rio or even decides to live in Rio are lonely and been single years and haven't had a girlfriend since high school many are without kids no girlfriend or wife so going to Rio to them is like their private SuperBowl and maybe will be their only time they get to get some pussy? So if going to VM and cheap Apt houses so they can get their dick wet once a year my hat is off to them. And have fun. I have always said when Rio is no longer fun for me I will stop going with the prices and with all the BS that is taking place I feel this will be my last trip to Brazil after all I been going since the 70's (I have seen a lot and done a lot).

I never thought the cost and prices will price me out of the market in Rio BUT going to VM and places like that have never been my thing, and I have to many other things I can spend a budget of $15, 000+ on. When I was spending $3, 000-$5000 total for a trip it wasn't a problem but now I have to spend double just to have the same level of fun I can't justify that it have become to much for me maybe I will do places like Colombia, Panama, Costa Rica more. But I will be going really soon so I will have one last bang before I retire Rio off my list. I honestly think IF I haven't gone to Rio so long ago maybe I wouldn't know how good it was and how cheap it was and I wouldn't know what I have miss like they say you don't know what you miss until it is gone.

I will say guys that haven't gone to Rio before and those that haven't been in a long time go and go NOW before it really get fuck up !!! like closing up all the Termas I am sure that will happen one day sooner rather than later.

I haven't been to a apt house before but this time I will check one out and see if it will be for me or not I will bring a hotel bed sheet and soap and towel with me just in case LOL LOL

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Christopherd;1244646]Well perhaps I won't bother posting such reports. I spent half an hour writing the report and rather wish I hadn't bothered.[/QUOTE]Please, keep on reporting, Chris. I do enjoy your reports very much.
Never mind the whiners who complains.

Funny how some guys thinks that the reason that you visit a privê is because you can't afford visiting a terma. They don't understand that they can get better quality at a much lower price at a privê. I guess those kind of guys can ruin the privês. Better think twice before sharing new information on privês.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;1244777]C just thinking, what is the business model thought proces: Less customers, continue to raise prices? Jeez, they are just getting more and more absurd downthere.[/QUOTE]Yes, you nailed it. That is the Brazilian thought process. They literally would rather session 1x per day and make $330 (the girl) than 2x-3x-4x and make $400-$500-$600. And the house thought process is,"If less people are coming, we have to make up our $ from the small numbers that come in. So let's raise the price!" It is the Wal-Mart antithesis. They can't wrap their heads around lowering prices to take advantage of the greater quantity demanded. Plus at Centaurus they basically have always had a "let's fuck the tourists" mentality which used to apply only to Gringos but now also applies to Brasilian visitors from Sao Paulo and other states (who have money). Not my scene.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1244917]Yes, you nailed it. That is the Brazilian thought process. They literally would rather session 1x per day and make $330 (the girl) than 2x-3x-4x and make $400-$500-$600. And the house thought process is,"If less people are coming, we have to make up our $ from the small numbers that come in. So let's raise the price!" It is the Wal-Mart antithesis. They can't wrap their heads around lowering prices to take advantage of the greater quantity demanded. Plus at Centaurus they basically have always had a "let's fuck the tourists" mentality which used to apply only to Gringos but now also applies to Brasilian visitors from Sao Paulo and other states (who have money). Not my scene.[/QUOTE]If you business model is to cater to rich Brazilians, which is easily determined just by noticing the number of fair-skinned blonds they have working there, then charging a high entrance fee makes sense. Most of us know that many Brazilians will go to a termas just to drink, hang out with the guys and play grab ass with the girls. With the high entrance fee, at least the house is recovering its fixed costs. They try to catch the unwary by combining the entrance fee with session fees, which even some Brazilians may end up paying. Also, once a guy pays a high entrance fee, and after a few drinks and some stimulation, he may start thinking while he is there he might as well get something for his money.

When I first started coming to Rio and the exchange rate was 1. 95:1, I would often run into super rich guys from around the world who later stopped coming when the rate was close to 4:1. They were not interested in having sex with girls whom had just been with 10 guys. Centaurus caters to guys of that mindset. That is how some of the more exclusive clubs in Europe, like Zeus, outside of Zurich operate.

[QUOTE=Christopherd; 1244646]Well perhaps I won't bother posting such reports. But how about a bit of live and let live. It seems one can't mention VM without a torrent of abuse from people that don't like the place and have limited knowledge of it. The board is about helping mongers find paid sex, not just those that want to pay hundreds of reais for the experience. In ten years, I've never noticed any general bareback availability, so I doubt vey much that sheets are cum-stained. There is wide variation, but many girls get their own personal sheet out their locker. Even on a busy Friday night, the girl I balled yesterday spent half an hour afterwards preparing herself for her next potential client and was immaculately clean. With most girls you can also see what you are getting. There is no cover up rule and naked breasts are common (if completely naked torsos less so). While I'd rather spend thirty reais for half an hour of good sex than 400, I also find the variety more enticing than at any of the tier 1 termas. It does require discernment, whereas the tier one experience reminds me more of a kilogramma.

If I were in RJ on business, no, I'd be less inclined to walk down muddy streets or climb the grubby stairs of BA85. But I am primarily on vacation, and have no wish to pay many more times than I would at home for what [i]to me [/i]is overpriced conveyor-belt sex. If 4x4 or Balcony Bar is your choice, fair enough, but why dissuade people from posting about good P4P that is not to your taste? I spent half an hour writing the report and rather wish I hadn't bothered.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1244917]Yes, you nailed it. That is the Brazilian thought process. They literally would rather session 1x per day and make $330 (the girl) than 2x-3x-4x and make $400-$500-$600. And the house thought process is,"If less people are coming, we have to make up our $ from the small numbers that come in. So let's raise the price!" It is the Wal-Mart antithesis. They can't wrap their heads around lowering prices to take advantage of the greater quantity demanded. Plus at Centaurus they basically have always had a "let's fuck the tourists" mentality which used to apply only to Gringos but now also applies to Brasilian visitors from Sao Paulo and other states (who have money). Not my scene.[/QUOTE]Rio is a great place to Visit maybe not the best P4P anymore. Probably will not return until next year, going to check out the FKK Clubs & RLD of Hamburg and Frankfurt in April.

But I will never forget my First Terma Visit in Brazil, I felt 20 yrs younger and at home in Rio.

[QUOTE=MoneyShot; 1244941]Rio is a great place to Visit maybe not the best P4P anymore. Probably will not return until next year, going to check out the FKK Clubs & RLD of Hamburg and Frankfurt in April.

But I will never forget my First Terma Visit in Brazil, I felt 20 yrs younger and at home in Rio.[/QUOTE]MoneyShot,

That's good keep a open-mind and your options open one of the 1st Brazilian girl I ever fuck was decades and decades ago in the RLD of Amsterdam I was still in my teens LOL, that was one reason I decided to go to Brazil in the late 70's now from what I hear from the girls I know and met on facebook many Brazilian girls have now took their trade to other countries like Spain and other places speaking of Spain there were some hot looking Brazilian girls working in some of the clubs and bars there selling ass, when I was last there in many of the nightclubs you can pull some dimes just buy them drinks and make them laugh and being in shape won't hurt either LOL

Hell, if you can't wait till next year to go to Brazil Moneyshot go to backpage right now and look under New York escorts or just about any city these days and see how many Brazilian girls you will see in there selling ass a lot more cheaper than some of these Termas in Brazil LOL LOL or better yet you can fly down to South Beach for a weekend and choose from a hot Colombian or a Brazilian or many other Latina chicks that post on backpage.

A lot of ex Club Help and ex Termas girls are now living in the states either they were married to some Simp that thought he could save them from the life or some Trick that thought if he brought them a house and a car they would be happy and stop selling ass but look on backpage that is were many have ended up here in the states...I have talked to many of them over the years and all I have to do is name a few well known hookers names that sold ass at Club Help and they will more than happy to tell on each other I know all about these girls business on who left their Trick husbands and who had babies with other guys etc.. since most of these chicks have known each other since high school and grade school.

Kid Cisco

[quote=sperto; 1244889]please, keep on reporting, chris. i do enjoy your reports very much.

never mind the whiners who complains.

funny how some guys thinks that the reason that you visit a privê is because you can't afford visiting a terma. they don't understand that they can get better quality at a much lower price at a privê. i guess those kind of guys can ruin the privês. better think twice before sharing new information on privês.[/quote]i certainly enjoy yours and chrisd's posts. it reminds me of the 'forbidden' side of rio for me!

i am one of those peopel who pays more then he should for two reasons :

-i don't go to rio often enough (may be once / year) to get familiar with the lingo and the street. so have to stick with 'safe" places and pay a premium for the perceived security.

-as a rule (with some exceptions) , cheaper the place, more customers a gdp goes through in a day / shift. so the gdps at termas likely have fewer johns per day, and places such as helpeee and balcony (uggghhh) may be just 1 monger per day or two. same for many upper end bars / clubs in europe, me, asia. people will spend money so that they can feel a sense of exclusivity. its just like a good hotel room, upgraded flight and a nice car. its neitehr wrong or right.

so we are paying for lack of experience and a perceived sense of exclusivity and safety (certainly not very adventurous).

i have done cheaper places in thiland and germany. and certainy could do vm, if i had a 'guide'.:) i have no doubt that one can get comparable service/looks at 1/4 the price.

(i do reserve the right to pack my own sheets / sandals like someone else posted!).:)

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1244889]Please, keep on reporting, Chris. I do enjoy your reports very much.

Never mind the whiners who complains.

Funny how some guys thinks that the reason that you visit a privê is because you can't afford visiting a terma. They don't understand that they can get better quality at a much lower price at a privê. I guess those kind of guys can ruin the privês. Better think twice before sharing new information on privês. [/QUOTE.

During my many wonderful visits to Carioca land, I have spent as much as 800R in a Termas, and as little as 30R in a Prive for outstanding service. Its all good!

However, I have been very forutunate to have good times (and all while avoiding danger) because of various reports from different members in the forum. Thanks to the many contributing members of this forum. It is much appreciated!

Just got back from the Marriott watching the Super Bowl, they had a special super bowl menu, I had the Sushi Platter 31 pieces 55 reais.

Today I went swimming at the Marriott. 2 Swedish women walk into the pool area and sat down next to me, nice looking and aging but so am I. Very sexy, we talked for hours, I thought I had it nailed but I always find when 2 women are together it's a tough nut to crack, better luck next time. So I came back to the apto and called Star Cris for Luana, older, tall big ass morena who by surprise I had before, I told her things about herself that she couldn't believe, obviously she didn't remember me. Older and very skilled but I was looking for something younger, nice girl, very pleasant and did the job well.

Last night I went to 2A2 casa de swing with my old MILF friend, I walked in with 8 condoms, left with 2. I did everything from the blind crippled and the crazy and a few nice ones too. When I left I handed my girl her money and said here is the normal fee and she asked for 50 reais more, I didn't give it to her, I think she left mad. She was just away for 15 days in the Caribbean with a Brazilian man she met through me at a swing club last year and he paid her so I told her you're making money off of me.

Left the swing club at almost 5 in the morning I think, dropped off my girl and went to Balcony bar, still some girls looking for work there, one girl said to me I know you from Help so I spoke to her and her friend, took them both back for 150 each. The one girl was so new and shy that she left the room when the other from help was fucking me. I told her that it's not the way it works, we do it all together, come here and sit on my face. So she did, one girl on top of me and the other on my face. The one girl who was fucking me was trying to make me cum, I didn't want to tell her it was impossible because I just used 6 condoms at 2a2. But when she finished the shy one started fucking me and I was so impressed by her that I told the other one to leave. I kept the ugly one who was a semi pro. 5th time at balcony and is a manager at a beauty salon. I never seen a pussy so wet before and she said the same thing about how wet she was. Left in the morning, will call her.

The girl I met in the van sent me an email and told me what a great louco night she had and wants to see me again, so this is how I will bring my cost down this trip by mixing in some freebies and she is young and not bad looking, not a stunner but nice.

Accused of stealing From Russian tourist in Copacabana.

Women hid the money in your genitals.

11/09/2009. Taísa Fonseca.

Officers of the Special Support Tourism (DEAT) arrested in the act, on Monday, in Copacabana, the girls Ariane Santana dos Santos Silva and Cardoso Joilma. According to agents, they are accused of circumventing the tourist Russian Andrey Barkin.

Andrey told agents that he met the prostitutes at the club Erotica, in that neighborhood, and invited them to the apartment where he was staying to carry out a "program". He said he had been robbed when they went to bathe. At the station, a women's team searched and the officers found the stolen money hidden in the genitals of women. With Ariane found $ 800 and $ 700 Joilma.

The delegate from specialized Fernando Little Village, said he is working to secure ooutras people who practice this type of crime against tourists. Joilma and Ariane will be in a jail Polinter of the disposition of justice.

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca; 1245695]Accused of stealing From Russian tourist in Copacabana.

Women hid the money in your genitals.

11/09/2009. Taísa Fonseca.

Officers of the Special Support Tourism (DEAT) arrested in the act, on Monday, in Copacabana, the girls Ariane Santana dos Santos Silva and Cardoso Joilma. According to agents, they are accused of circumventing the tourist Russian Andrey Barkin.

Andrey told agents that he met the prostitutes at the club Erotica, in that neighborhood, and invited them to the apartment where he was staying to carry out a "program". He said he had been robbed when they went to bathe. At the station, a women's team searched and the officers found the stolen money hidden in the genitals of women. With Ariane found $ 800 and $ 700 Joilma.

The delegate from specialized Fernando Little Village, said he is working to secure ooutras people who practice this type of crime against tourists. Joilma and Ariane will be in a jail Polinter of the disposition of justice.[/QUOTE]I wonder if they were small or large bills.

I'm sure the gals will have a great time in that shithole, Polinter.

He should have been locked up too! It has to be against the law to fly from Russia all the way to Rio and get the two ugliest cariocas you can find, to take back to your apartment! Slap him with a felony or something!

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca; 1245695]Accused of stealing From Russian tourist in Copacabana.

Women hid the money in your genitals.

11/09/2009. Taísa Fonseca.

Officers of the Special Support Tourism (DEAT) arrested in the act, on Monday, in Copacabana, the girls Ariane Santana dos Santos Silva and Cardoso Joilma. According to agents, they are accused of circumventing the tourist Russian Andrey Barkin.

Andrey told agents that he met the prostitutes at the club Erotica, in that neighborhood, and invited them to the apartment where he was staying to carry out a "program". He said he had been robbed when they went to bathe. At the station, a women's team searched and the officers found the stolen money hidden in the genitals of women. With Ariane found $ 800 and $ 700 Joilma.

The delegate from specialized Fernando Little Village, said he is working to secure ooutras people who practice this type of crime against tourists. Joilma and Ariane will be in a jail Polinter of the disposition of justice.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Bravo;1245729]He should have been locked up too! It has to be against the law to fly from Russia all the way to Rio and get the two ugliest cariocas you can find, to take back to your apartment! Slap him with a felony or something![/QUOTE]Hang them all from the highest tree, the girls for being thieves and the Russian for being stupid.

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1245695]At the station, a women's team searched and the officers found the stolen money hidden in the genitals of women. With Ariane found $ 800 and $ 700 Joilma.[/QUOTE]The article fails to mention that the R$1500 was in R$1 coins! Bada bing!