Globe Club

I'm having difficulty deciding between a November trip to Globe or Germany. I visited Globe in 2010 where the girls were blonde type western European and I had an amazing experience. People here have been saying those days are over but I was hoping to recapture even 60 or 70 percent of that magic. However I recently came across an official globe owner's video on you tube and the girls I saw on that video (it has been confirmed by a fellow member here) were nowhere near the levels of beauty I was hoping to see in November in terms of them being comparable to what I saw in 2010.

My question is are girls in Oase and Sharks these days generally, younger, more natural looking with less silicone than at Globe?? The girls also looked older at Globe than what I remember vs the late teen early 20's girls I had become accustomed to in Germany Sharks and Oase.

Answers here may be decisive in my decision regarding Germany vs Globe. Many thanks to all.

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;2950997]My question is are girls in Oase and Sharks these days generally, younger, more natural looking with less silicone than at Globe?? The girls also looked older at Globe than what I remember vs the late teen early 20's girls I had become accustomed to in Germany Sharks and Oase.[/QUOTE]I recently spent time at both Globe and Sharks.

I hadn't been to Sharks since 2014. I only went back because of my growing dissatisfaction with Globe during my post-Covid visits. Sharks had a very large number of girls, literally all shapes & sizes. Generally I like the hard-body, silicone-enhanced porno look (think Ariel, Corina, Fathia currently at Globe), and in terms of "eye candy" for me, the Sharks Top 20 handily beats the current Globe line-up. But at the other end of the scale, there were dozens of girls the likes of which I have almost never witnessed at Globe. There was one women who must have been older than me, and I'm in my late sixties. I wouldn't say the young, natural look was at all well represented. Sharks was like a game park with not enough gazelles and way too many hippos.

Sharks clearly has no standards when it comes to letting girls work there, and that becomes abundantly clear regarding their attitude. So many turn out to be Venus Flytraps. Their "service" is perfunctory, they consider it a triumph to make you stay more than 30 minutes (and that hour often becomes 40 minutes), it seems they have no hope nor expectation of long sessions or repeat business, and therefore make minimal effort. I found 100 for 30 minutes to be the quoted rate before heading to the room, but once there the focus turns to upselling with a heavily implied "pay more or don't expect much".

Everything else about Sharks (layout, food, TV screens showing sports, spas, outdoor area) is better than Globe. On my final day in Darmstadt I killed the day by heading off to Sharks with just 70 Euros in my wallet. After paying the 69 Euros entry, that left me with 1 Euro. I had a hearty dinner, then sat in the spa watching the big clash between Bayern vs Leverkusen, and ended up enjoying a few hours of English Open snooker before heading back to my hotel (nearby Dormero, very nice). Maybe I now qualify for the pension in Germany, but I will never be returning.

I greatly enjoyed a visit to Globe the following day, just to experience the level of service that eluded me at Sharks. But, the next day, a couple of my favs were "off", and the rest of the Globe LU looked so uninspiring I didn't bother to pay a visit. In the past, I'd never even think of passing up any day at Globe.

So, that's the dilemma for me. Sharks is pointless to visit due to the attitude of the girls, Wellcum is too remote and provides a similar experience in most respects, so that leaves the "not what it used to be" Globe (and sister clubs like Swiss, History) as my only choice. As I mentioned a while ago, gone are the days of spending 4-5 days in Zurich as I don't want to see the same few appealing girls every visit, and the flow of new talent just ain't what it used to be.

In conclusion, your hope of recapturing around 70 percent of the old Globe magic is probably a realistic expectation to have. At least the service level remains at 100% and you only need to find one or two lookers to have a worthwhile time.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2950909]Here it goes, a girl approaches you and then sits with you which you drink, if you let her stay more than 15 minutes, some girls tell you she is on the clock at that point, and in the case described some girl said nothing for 2 hours, then the clock starts. Remember the clock starts even though you have not been to the room with her or even decided to do so.

One customer recounted that he sat and drank with a regular of his and then went to the room with her (a 30 minute room although he usually goes for an hour) and then subsequently was presented with a bill for 3 hours plus drinks.

Apparently the guy at the front desk said these are the new rules. I am only relaying what was written in one of the largest local forums with a befuddled long time customer. I really hope this is not how it is in what has been known as a premier service oriented club. I am hoping this is wrong and someone tells me that what I had read was a one of involving collusion between a girl and a member of the front desk or simply tall tales.[/QUOTE]I've never heard of this nor anything close to it.

The closest I can think of is that there are some wealthy clients who like to just hang out at the bar, drinking champagne, with multiple girls, and knowingly. By agreement. The girls are on the clock. But again, that is the exception, and is mutually agreed upon.

Regards, FJ.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2950909]Here it goes, a girl approaches you and then sits with you which you drink, if you let her stay more than 15 minutes, some girls tell you she is on the clock at that point, and in the case described some girl said nothing for 2 hours, then the clock starts. Remember the clock starts even though you have not been to the room with her or even decided to do so.

One customer recounted that he sat and drank with a regular of his and then went to the room with her (a 30 minute room although he usually goes for an hour) and then subsequently was presented with a bill for 3 hours plus drinks.

Apparently the guy at the front desk said these are the new rules.[/QUOTE]Seems to me the only issue here is not clearly establishing when a "session" started. Any regular visitor to Globe should be well aware of the importance of doing so. You really can't expect girls to spend 3 hours with a regular client and then get paid for only 30 minutes?

Perhaps after a couple of hours of drinking neither "befuddled" party could clearly recount what actually happened.

[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2951106]Seems to me the only issue here is not clearly establishing when a "session" started. Any regular visitor to Globe should be well aware of the importance of doing so. You really can't expect girls to spend 3 hours with a regular client and then get paid for only 30 minutes?

Perhaps after a couple of hours of drinking neither "befuddled" party could clearly recount what actually happened.[/QUOTE]So the affected person wrote about this at length in the local forum.

1. he had done this previously as had many guests without an issue.

2. The girl is not compelled in any way to hang around and stay and drink with him. She can leave any time and she at no time made it clear that she is on the clock.

Many clients in other clubs in DE, do pay for couch time, I never have and I make it clear that I won't. Some girls stay with you in order to entice you to go with them later, this is their choice and if they feel like it won't pay off, they are free to leave at any point they wish.

3. This was never the case before and the rule change has never been communicated, it is still not clear if this is actually the case as per the rules. The local forum is really not pleased about this.

4. From what has been described by many, it sounds like there has been no change in rules, however there might have been collusion between the desk person and the girl and they might have split the proceeds, there is no way to know this for sure.

I do understand that some clients hoard girls and other clients don't have access to them. But remember the girl is free to leave any time she wants if she thinks this is not in her financial interest neither the club nor the client have forced them to do this.

This is part of their service oriented approach.

So in this respect I personally disagree with you. As per forum rules I can not post the link to the local forum, but the local forum is quite upset about this and there are 1 or 2 individuals who agree with you, but the others see it differently.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2951142]So in this respect I personally disagree with you. As per forum rules I can not post the link to the local forum, but the local forum is quite upset about this and there are 1 or 2 individuals who agree with you, but the others see it differently.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. I don't drink, so it really doesn't concern me. I have wondered at times what the arrangement is whenever I see girls just sitting and drinking for hours. I have hoped for their sake they are getting paid, as sometimes I'm waiting & willing to pay them for sex.

However, I think any suggestion it may involve collusion between girls & reception staff is taking it too far.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2951142]So the affected person wrote about this at length in the local forum.

1. he had done this previously as had many guests without an issue.

2. The girl is not compelled in any way to hang around and stay and drink with him. She can leave any time and she at no time made it clear that she is on the clock.

Many clients in other clubs in DE, do pay for couch time, I never have and I make it clear that I won't. Some girls stay with you in order to entice you to go with them later, this is their choice and if they feel like it won't pay off, they are free to leave at any point they wish.

3. This was never the case before and the rule change has never been communicated, it is still not clear if this is actually the case as per the rules. The local forum is really not pleased about this.

4. From what has been described by many, it sounds like there has been no change in rules, however there might have been collusion between the desk person and the girl and they might have split the proceeds, there is no way to know this for sure..[/QUOTE]I've read the post in the local forum and thus far it appears much ado about nothing.

There are 14 replies to the OP.

2 from the OP repeating his case.

5 from first timers who have ONLY posted on this topic (ahem) and who condemn Glob.

7 from various other regulars who mostly say it is simply not the rule.

[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2951146]Fair enough. I don't drink, so it really doesn't concern me. I have wondered at times what the arrangement is whenever I see girls just sitting and drinking for hours. I have hoped for their sake they are getting paid, as sometimes I'm waiting & willing to pay them for sex.

However, I think any suggestion it may involve collusion between girls & reception staff is taking it too far.[/QUOTE]It might even be an improvement: girls are no longer locked for hours for drinks only, and are available again for the men who only come there for good sex for (half) hour and no further chit chat (especially not if you have to pay for this "smalltalk" time before the room).

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2950909]I personally have not visited the Globe in a long time, many years, but I frequently visit the partner clubs within the "Empire". I have just read something on a local forum, which if true and it sounds accurate if everyone is being truthful, is very disturbing.

Many customers frequently have some drinks and invite a girl occasionally for a drink. In fact many girls solicit drinks openly from customers. However recently I have heard about some policy changes at the Globe, which I still hope are not true, which make the whole thing problematic and quite frankly I would characterize as gouging the customer.

Here it goes, a girl approaches you and then sits with you which you drink, if you let her stay more than 15 minutes, some girls tell you she is on the clock at that point, and in the case described some girl said nothing for 2 hours, then the clock starts. Remember the clock starts even though you have not been to the room with her or even decided to do so.

One customer recounted that he sat and drank with a regular of his and then went to the room with her (a 30 minute room although he usually goes for an hour) and then subsequently was presented with a bill for 3 hours plus drinks..[/QUOTE]You can write here what you call local forum, when I write for German lustcout versus tourists explaining us about Sharks. In clubs and at Globe, I pay for sex as a fucker, I don't pay to drink or party, but I often see guys drinking with girls for hours and yes, some girls at Freubad and Globe ask for lady drink, so I think quite normal these guys pay for time over 10/15 mn, spent drinking with girls who can t go to room with others, even they are not able to fuck. Yes, be very careful about little guy on desk, ready to fuck you with some girls. I experienced, nothing about drink, for real time spent in room with tall Sara.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2951142]So the affected person wrote about this at length in the local forum... [/QUOTE]It's possible that a WG scammed a client, but I would find it hard to believe it's new policy. Without any background or additional information, reception will support the girl, but if it's repeat behavior I think she will be shown the door.

As example, Olivia was kicked out this year for a scamming attempt. She went to where one known big spender was having a party. She was told she can help herself with whatever was there on offer, but that's it. She stayed a while and then asked to be paid. The result is that she is now in Medusa.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2951231]It's possible that a WG scammed a client, but I would find it hard to believe it's new policy. Without any background or additional information, reception will support the girl, but if it's repeat behavior I think she will be shown the door.

As example, Olivia was kicked out this year for a scamming attempt. She went to where one known big spender was having a party. She was told she can help herself with whatever was there on offer, but that's it. She stayed a while and then asked to be paid. The result is that she is now in Medusa.[/QUOTE]Girls do scam at Globe, here are few examples frok my personal experience without Girls names (most don't work there now):

* I was not aware that once session is over and you chat with girl it's on your time and money. Was with some Spanish girl at terrace outside we were done and she started talking stretching the time whole she clearly seare I got no clue it's not a friendly chat and ended up paying 30 minutes for nothing.

* another example which happened several times is when you ask girl how much time passed in session she will add some minutes to cross 30 minutes mark and force you pay more.

* one time girl with price of 120 asked me 150 and got it, I realized it just hours later and got my money back frok reception.

* girls can aim you spend money on drinks and extras you don't want if you are not causios.

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;2950997]I'm having difficulty deciding between a November trip to Globe or Germany. I visited Globe in 2010 where the girls were blonde type western European and I had an amazing experience. People here have been saying those days are over but I was hoping to recapture even 60 or 70 percent of that magic. However I recently came across an official globe owner's video on you tube and the girls I saw on that video (it has been confirmed by a fellow member here) were nowhere near the levels of beauty I was hoping to see in November in terms of them being comparable to what I saw in 2010.

My question is are girls in Oase and Sharks these days generally, younger, more natural looking with less silicone than at Globe?? The girls also looked older at Globe than what I remember vs the late teen early 20's girls I had become accustomed to in Germany Sharks and Oase.

Answers here may be decisive in my decision regarding Germany vs Globe. Many thanks to all.[/QUOTE]Forget elegance and charm before 2018 , when more porn culture now. Globe may worth for pubic sex, but if You are able to manage without rules on girls, You can find more fresh natural, less professionnal in Germany. Magnum NRW have prettier for my picky eyes, looking like women. Sharks and Oase are not at best on 2024 , but some schoolgirl looks.

I am with Paul and doubt this is a new policy.

First of all the forum where you read this is on a war path with Ingo and the Imperium and a lot of forum participants got kicked out. I would take whatever is written there with a grain of salt. There was a new forum started but I am a bit more positive about it but also would still consider that more forum writers there are close to Torsten (manager Swiss).

It is possible the story is true but then it is an exception or miscommunication between the girl and person. I am not paying for time and I am also rarely buy a drink for a girl. You can talk for a bit for free but they all leave after a couple minutes. Some of them stay with regulars a bit longer. But it is also known if you start to kiss or anything else sexual you will need to go to the room soon or the counter will start.

I did eat with girls afterwards (rarely) and this was always free but we would both be hungry and go there anyway. But it was not arranged and I would not ask or expect it.

There are punters who like to party and they do pay for the time.

Personally I am older and my life experience and topics I like to talk about have not a huge overlap with the girls (exceptions proofing the rule) and therefore I am not interested in spending time outside having good sex.

[QUOTE=Martin39;2951413]It is possible the story is true but then it is an exception or miscommunication between the girl and person. I am not paying for time and I am also rarely buy a drink for a girl. You can talk for a bit for free but they all leave after a couple minutes. Some of them stay with regulars a bit longer. But it is also known if you start to kiss or anything else sexual you will need to go to the room soon or the counter will start.

I did eat with girls afterwards (rarely) and this was always free but we would both be hungry and go there anyway. But it was not arranged and I would not ask or expect it.[/QUOTE]Same for me. If a girl starts to talk about lady drinks I either walk away directly, or I ask her if she wants me to spend money on drinks or on her service in the room?

[QUOTE=Cahdgui;2951336]Girls do scam at Globe, here are few examples frok my personal experience without Girls names (most don't work there now):

* I was not aware that once session is over and you chat with girl it's on your time and money. Was with some Spanish girl at terrace outside we were done and she started talking stretching the time whole she clearly seare I got no clue it's not a friendly chat and ended up paying 30 minutes for nothing.

* another example which happened several times is when you ask girl how much time passed in session she will add some minutes to cross 30 minutes mark and force you pay more.

* one time girl with price of 120 asked me 150 and got it, I realized it just hours later and got my money back frok reception.

* girls can aim you spend money on drinks and extras you don't want if you are not causios.[/QUOTE]The first 3 are really a no-go for girls In Globe. Happily I never experienced it, but if you do, indeed a simple complain and money back is the only solution, since the girl is not obeying the rules.

The drinks is another thing: it is allowed (and even a business model for the club), but can not be forced of course.

About Extra's: girls are not allowed to "just" make an extra without warning you about the (extra) price. Even with CIM / CIF it never happened to me they "tricked me into this". If you are aware of the extra costs, of course the girl can offer all she is able and willing to do for it!

[QUOTE=Cahdgui;2951336]Girls do scam at Globe, here are few examples frok my personal experience without Girls names (most don't work there now):

* I was not aware that once session is over and you chat with girl it's on your time and money. Was with some Spanish girl at terrace outside we were done and she started talking stretching the time whole she clearly seare I got no clue it's not a friendly chat and ended up paying 30 minutes for nothing.

* another example which happened several times is when you ask girl how much time passed in session she will add some minutes to cross 30 minutes mark and force you pay more.

* one time girl with price of 120 asked me 150 and got it, I realized it just hours later and got my money back frok reception.

* girls can aim you spend money on drinks and extras you don't want if you are not causios.[/QUOTE]I remember when I paid Kate on lockers, then I gave her € , once after she gave back key to desk, when she returned for shower together, she told me desk told we spent 1 h45 , not 1 h30 , but she didn t ask me more, but now we pay on desk, so be careful, You pay until You reach desk, be careful about little guy, when I regretted to help Sara to make the bed, when I preferred to give up when hurting me holding condom, for sure to prevent entering too deep. Less quality for girls and fucked by desk when need about 10 mn to go to room, make the bed after and back to desk after taking money in locker. Victoria seemed more talkative than a high sexual potential, when she was from NL windows.