Jakarta

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1574941]Years ago, there was a time when they wouldn't negotiate price. The girls were accustomed to the local expats treating them fairly, so they didn't negotiate (some did, but not the majority). The days of the internet informing the general public about the scene in Jakarta and the influx of sex tourists has changed that. It seemed that some of the sex tourists are not nearly as fair with the girls. And were either not paying the girls at all or giving them very low amounts if the girls didn't negotiate up front. The girls are now hard bargainers. It's a shame. One of the best things about Jakarta was that the girls did not negotiate so it seemed more GFE. Now it's not much different from Thailand or the Philippines. And the prices for the girls have gone WAY up[/QUOTE]Absolutely. I remember when it would have seemed downright crass to ask a girl what she charged, you just slipped her 300-500 k as taxi money on the way out. Most of them didn't even count it in front of you. Gentler, softer, more naive times, and long gone.

[QUOTE=GonzoTwo;1575233]Absolutely. I remember when it would have seemed downright crass to ask a girl what she charged, you just slipped her 300-500 k as taxi money on the way out. Most of them didn't even count it in front of you. Gentler, softer, more naive times, and long gone. [/QUOTE]Exactly, can remember that as well when I had my heydays in Jakarta. Was 2001-2006.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1574955]Good luck with that, I have asked him on a couple of occasions to give more specific details of where and when to pick up in Blok M Plaza and he has never replied.

Blok M Plaza is a mall with which I am very familiar having been visiting the place for the past ten years, like anywhere in Jakarta for a bule with money burning a hole in his pocket, time on his hands and his wits about him it's a place where every now and again you might meet someone nice. A bit like the Busway or Carrefour on a Saturday afternoon, if you really make the effort once in a while you might just strike lucky.

Occasionally in Blok M Plaza you might get a hint from an obvious "ayam" in the late evening on her way to work nearby, or catch the eye of an office lady spending a little bit of time over a coffee in one of the cafes and self-consciously checking her BBM, but the almost casual "let's drop into Blok M Plaza at any hour of the day or night and pick up a hot Sundanese or Javanese teenager who's just passing through for immediate sex in my hotel room" hook-ups that he describes, no, I've never seen that, nor have any Blok M regulars that I know, and judging by his reluctance to be more specific I kinda have my doubts about the veracity of his posts.

He is definitely scoring somewhere, and they probably aren't out-and-out pros judging by the photos, but wherever he's picking them up I'm pretty certain it isn't Blok M Plaza.[/QUOTE]I've asked the same questions & spent too many wasted hours hoping to be as lucky as the guy seems to be on any given day. I conclude that Blok M Plaza is absolutely not a good hunting ground one any day, or indeed at any particular location after trudging the many flor again & again! Tbh you'd probably have more luck just spending a few hours in one of the ground floor coffee shops. But is still would not be a sound investment of your time. I'm not discrediting the reporter. Simply reporting what I've found on the several occasions that I've gone in search! Forget Blok M Plaza is my advice.

[QUOTE=Serafimint;1575010]I know a beautiful escort for Jakarta area.

She have some ads on another web.

Just searching her name by goo*le:

Adelpelangi.

Guarantee will make you satisfied. Hehe. [/QUOTE]This is no doubt an ad.

Once again in Jakarta for a short trip, not as much fun and excitement as before but did expand my boundaries a bit, usually I tend to stick around BLOK M and whatever is available either they accompany me for my stay or just for a night. This time around staying in KOTA second time around I figured the lay of the street. There are many massage places in this area not only the ones mentioned (Berlin, etc) but many others perhaps local.

Visited a place next to Berlin don't know the name and the service was decent the girl's name was ATIK she was average with average service but that's expected for the first time.

Also visited another place on the other side of this place I believe it called mamas an, not sure. This girl was quite friendly nice body and nice ass, which I like face wasn't too great but always smiling. Service was great and not rushed.

I also tried the massage pimp outside the IBIS hotel, of the many times I stayed here I decided to try this guy out. Had hime send me 2 girls up to the room so I could choose, actually was going to choose both of them but one wasn't quite appealing. Anyway did choose 1 girl and was surprised she actually gave a good massage, not a rub with oil for 1 minute and then turn over ready for other things. She did take her time and wasn't hurried at all. So another new adventure in Jakarta.

Back to BLOK M hanging out in my usual spot at MY Bar saw quite a few new ladies around and a few I have known for years. Was approached by one girl who quoted 1 M, I was tempted, as she looked nice. Small, nice body, nice smile, could speak English a bit long hair etc. But in the end I didn't as I realized that paying 1 M would upset the economics of Blok M. I read in a previous post that if you get a girl for 500 K then she will be ugly. I must say I disagree with this, met a few girls who were acceptable and in this range on this trip, however having that also met a few who were not that attractive that were in a very high range.

I always try to look for a gem in the crowd sometimes I get lucky sometimes not, just the way it is. But this time around did meet a few new girls that were impressive in their service and time spent with me.

Can't wait to return in December.

[QUOTE=Bkk212;1575368]I read in a previous post that if you get a girl for 500 K then she will be ugly. I must say I disagree with this, met a few girls who were acceptable and in this range on this trip, however having that also met a few who were not that attractive that were in a very high range.
. [/QUOTE]That was for BATS, not blok M girls. Blok M girls are about 1/2 the price of BATS girls or less. The last few times I went to Blok M, I didn't find one girl even worth taking home though.

[QUOTE=Lucky7;1575260]I've asked the same questions & spent too many wasted hours hoping to be as lucky as the guy seems to be on any given day. I conclude that Blok M Plaza is absolutely not a good hunting ground one any day, or indeed at any particular location after trudging the many flor again & again! Tbh you'd probably have more luck just spending a few hours in one of the ground floor coffee shops. But is still would not be a sound investment of your time. I'm not discrediting the reporter. Simply reporting what I've found on the several occasions that I've gone in search! Forget Blok M Plaza is my advice.[/QUOTE]It might also be conceivable that he only posts when he's successful in finding a very presentable cewek, and omits the many times that he only gets what you guys have been seeing. As you say, it's all a matter of the time you have and what the opportunity cost is to you. That's why I like to prearrange meetings, so I don't waste time.

MD II.

Ramadan is coming up in June and will be in Jakarta at that time. Bad timing, but no other choice.

Will Classic and Travel be open at night during Ramadan? And how about MPs like Oasis?

[QUOTE=Michelangelo;1576922]Ramadan is coming up in June and will be in Jakarta at that time. Bad timing, but no other choice.

Will Classic and Travel be open at night during Ramadan? And how about MPs like Oasis?[/QUOTE]When in June will you be here? As written several times in the past few weeks, Ramadan begins on June 28th, and the MPs (Kartika, Maribaya, Berlian, etc.) and similar places will be shut down by June 25th, maybe one or two days earlier, with the ladies heading back to their home villages until early August.

Hotel spas such as Alexis and Malioboro should be open during the first three weeks of Ramadan, but will keep a lower profile. Not sure about Classic or Travel. Nightclubs will also keep a lower profile, with less girls working and available.

I look forward to reading your trip reports.

[QUOTE=Michelangelo;1576922]Ramadan is coming up in June and will be in Jakarta at that time. Bad timing, but no other choice.

Will Classic and Travel be open at night during Ramadan? And how about MPs like Oasis?[/QUOTE]To Michelangelo.

I think you should avoid the last week of June beginning of Ramadan Classic and Hotel Travel only closed for a few days last yr Ramadan with less girl after reopening, I been Jarkata on business during Ramadan before and have no problem getting actions there are smaller mp and sauna still be open.

Fast eddie 48.

Dear Fellow Posters.

1. I have RTFF many, many times in preparation for my stay in Jakarta.

2. I will be in Jakarta from 11 PM Wednesday June 11 for 4 - 5 days until I pass tests and relocate to Cilacap as a Flight Instructor.

3. I am 59 years old & 185 cm tall & 130 kg large.

4. I have been to SEA about a dozen times from 2003 to 2011 - mostly Philippines, but also Thailand twice.

5. I am working for a flight school headquartered in Jakarta, but will be teaching in Cilacap for 12 months.

I am not sure how much time, or freedom, to monger I will have at night. I do not even know where I am staying yet as the CEO will pick me up at the airport.

I need advice on my best & most productive options if I am in fact on a short leash. My favorite type of place for those familiar with Manila is the old LA CAFE or MBC as it is now called. I prefer the pickup bar atmosphere as opposed to the girly bars -- but either will be fine by me.

From reading, it seems like Top Gun and others in Blok M are a good choice for the first time traveler.

I am also interested in Hotel Classic & Hotel Travel as well as BATS.

How late are these places open?

Are these my best options if I can travel?

If I am stuck in a hotel what would you suggest.

Just trying to be prepared.

Thanks, Bob.

Jakarta is a chaotic city with a myriad of options for P4 P.

There is no best place to go but rather, it will depend on what you are looking for.

If you need to release, simply head to places like Maliboro, Alexis etc. These are your bath houses which you can find in places like Prague, Warsaw.

Alexis is not cheap, but nice ambience and good range of girls.

Those who prefer to get a drink, scan and hunt should go to Red Square or CJ. To me, better quality of girls.

Blok M has bad quality, your village girls and for those who just want a cheap fuck and don't mind on quality. You can head there. This place is usually for foreigners.

For those with the dough, there are also models and actress for hire but the damage is about 10 m rupiah for an overnight.

[QUOTE=AlexFergus;1577914]
For those with the dough, there are also models and actress for hire but the damage is about 10 m rupiah for an overnight.[/QUOTE]10 M for overnight? That's nearer the lower end of the scale (starts from about 4/5 M), although I would have already said it's a waste of money. I've also heard of someone paying USD2000 for a couple of hours (you know who you are bro;)); it really depends on the status of the actress or model (not to mention the looks).

MD II.

[QUOTE=MasterDiverII;1578461]10 M for overnight? That's nearer the lower end of the scale (starts from about 4/5 M), although I would have already said it's a waste of money. I've also heard of someone paying USD2000 for a couple of hours (you know who you are bro;)); it really depends on the status of the actress or model (not to mention the looks).

MD II.[/QUOTE]You are right, 10 m is lower end, the mean rate would be about 15 m rupiah /12 hours. But then again, these rates are usually inflated as some model / actress have been paid huge bucks.

By the many rich / corrupted businessman that you can find in jakarta. 15-20 m is really small change to these people.

[QUOTE=MasterDiverII;1578461] I've also heard of someone paying USD2000 for a couple of hours (you know who you are bro;))[/QUOTE]I'd do that for Jupe.

Some of the hot FHM models were asking 10 million. I hadn't heard as much as 20 million. That must be a huge star.