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A woman is like a spike (syringe). If you gonnah shares it you gotstah go first!
Hi guys
This is a link to the China thread where Santa posted the latest story about circumcision and HIV, and I have posted my comments. I am sure it will cause some debate, especially here.
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=938[/url]
HIV risk halved by circumcision, finds US agency by Donald G McNeil Jr
Circumcision appears to reduce a man’s risk of contracting AIDS from heterosexual sex by half, US government health officials said on Wednesday, and the directors of the two largest funds for fighting the disease said they would consider paying for circumcisions in high-risk countries.
The announcement was made by officials of the National Institutes of Health as they halted two clinical trials, in Kenya and Uganda, on the ground that not offering circumcision to all the men taking part would be unethical. The success of the trials confirmed a study done last year in South Africa.
AIDS experts immediately hailed the finding. “This is very exciting news,” said Daniel Halperin, an HIV specialist at the Harvard Center for Population and Development, who has argued that circumcision slows the spread of AIDS in the parts of Africa where it is common.
In an interview from Zimbabwe, he added, “I have no doubt that as word of this gets around, millions of African men will want to get circumcised, and that will save many lives.”
Uncircumcised men are thought to be more susceptible because the underside of the foreskin is rich in Langerhans cells, sentinel cells of the immune system, which attach easily to the human immunodeficiency virus, which causes AIDS. The foreskin also often suffers small tears during intercourse.
But experts also cautioned that circumcision is no cure-all. It only lessens the chances that a man will catch the virus; it is expensive compared to condoms, abstinence or other methods; and the surgery has serious risks if performed by folk healers using dirty blades, as it often happens in rural Africa.
Circumcision is “not a magic bullet, but a potentially important intervention,” said Kevin M De Cock, director of HIV/AIDS for the World Health Organization. Sex education messages for young men need to make it clear that “this does not mean that you have an absolute protection,” said Anthony S Fauci, an AIDS researcher and director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
Circumcision should be used with other prevention methods, he said, and it does nothing to prevent spread by anal sex or drug injection, ways in which the virus commonly spreads in the US.
The two trials, conducted by researchers from universities in Illinois, Maryland, Canada, Uganda and Kenya, involved nearly 3,000 heterosexual men in Kisumu, Kenya, and nearly 5,000 in Rakai, Uganda. None were infected with HIV. They were divided into circumcised and uncircumcised groups, given safe sex advice (although many presumably did not take it), and retested regularly.
The trials were stopped this week by the NIH Data Safety and Monitoring Board after data showed that the Kenyan men had a 53% reduction in new HIV infection. Twenty-two of the 1,393 circumcised men in that study caught the disease, compared with 47 of the 1,391 uncircumcised men. In Uganda, the reduction was 48%. NYT NEWS SERVICE
[QUOTE=Duniawala]HIV risk halved by circumcision, finds US agency by Donald G McNeil Jr
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Hi Duniawala,
I feel this announcement has just a tiny effect on me.
1. Already circumcised.
2. Don't take statistically high risks with my dick anyway.
3. Licking out a girl's pussy will have the same level of danger as before.
4. I can feel some tiny level of comfort when getting a BBBJ only, because the unknown but small level of risk might be even smaller.
Fellows, I have paid the price that one occasionally pays for enjoying our hobby the natural way. Yes, I have the Clap. Or rather I may have either clamydia or the clap, or both. The discharge is white, not yellow, so I think it could be just clamydia. In any case I thought it might be useful to bring up this common and easily aquired ailment on our 'Safe Sex in Thailand' thread.
I have taken just this morning the 1 gram dose of Zithromax I always take for these maladies. Unfortunately, I ate a meal no more than 30 minutes later, which is contraindicated, so I'm a bit worried about the efficacy of the cure. Does anyone here have any other anecdotes or advice about these, our two most common sexually transmitted ailments? Do you prefer Zithromax or the shot in the buttocks (Ceftriaxone)? Any other treatments? Which one do you think is easier on the gut, Zithromax or the Shot?
I fear Zithromax's tendency to kill off the good gut organisms - a friend of mine was taking antibiotics for food poisoning and ended up with pseudomembranous colitis, which luckily for him was cured with metronidazole. I always eat a lot of yoghurt after taking antibiotics. Anyway, time to share your Clap experiences.
o****: ye sound like david hume. great to see ye spouting philosophy as the white stuff runs down yer legs.
there are some nasty does to be had in the kingsom of thailand. one reason is because the infected, people like you, and the hookers, don't get proper medical attention but prefer a jab in the arse or a yellow pack chemist. if i was you, i'd get a proper medical check up and follow the proscibed course of action. but i'm nae you. i am as clean as the spring heather on ben nevis. you, on the other hand, now have insides as dirty as a bangkok sewer. ye better get checked fae other souvenirs as yer at it.
ah dinnae ken what yer waffling about yoghurt for. some swear by blueberries but they probably cost a pretty penny there in thailand. do ye intend tae fuck on and give them more than they bargained for?
happy fucking.
[QUOTE=Opebo]Fellows, I have paid the price that one occasionally pays for enjoying our hobby the natural way. Yes, I have the Clap.
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Anyway, time to share your Clap experiences.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't your post rather belong to the UNSAFE Sex Forum? :-)
Who did you catch it from?
Do you thoroughly inspect girls pussies for cleanliness and panties for stains prior to sex? I suppose any goo coming out could be mistaken for the last guys come juice?
I have had Clamydia once in my life. Wasn't sure if was from BBBJ from girl at the Grace Coffee shop or from uncovered sex with girl back in the home country (2 weeks earler), who claimed to have checked and be totally free of it (but can't trust women to tell the truth). As there was no other unprotected activity I was inclined to blame the BBBJ even though the doctor ignorantly stated that it was impossible to catch from oral sex. Could have been the toilet seat I suppose :-)
Don't expect I will ever catch another STD, but I still get BBBJs, so lightning could strike twice.
How many girls are you intending to infect shortly? (since you didn't mention this issue) or are you intending a short holiday from barebacking?
I presume not, since covered sex is so pathetic for you.
Should I be in "Fight Club" or am I only mildly provocative.
I belive Errythromycin is really good stuff (and I used to be able to buy in Thailand), but its hard to get these days as the health authorites are keeping it back for those bacteria that have developed immunity to other antibotics. The best antibotics are therefore not available. Too much exposure of the best antibotics would increase likelyhood of resistant bacteria mutations becoming the dominant strains.
Isn't it easier just to see the doctor and get a prescription or injection in the arse.
[QUOTE=Opebo]Fellows, I have paid the price that one occasionally pays for enjoying our hobby the natural way. Yes, I have the Clap. Or rather I may have either clamydia or the clap, or both. ...
I have taken just this morning the 1 gram dose of Zithromax I always take for these maladies...
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Opebo,
how could this happen to such an "experienced" bareback monger like you ?
I see it's not the first time you experience one of the side effects of your activities and you obviously don't have the guts to see a qualified medic, or are you just cheap ?
BTW, what would you do if it would have been HIV ?
Would you still go bareback, spread it and kill others ?
Or would you finally take responsibility for your actions and do the right thing ?
Hmm, I guess not since there is no right or wrong in Opebo's world.
[QUOTE=The Traveler]Opebo,
how could this happen to such an "experienced" bareback monger like you ?[/quote]
Well, you see, The Traveler, I placed my penis in the anus-holes of numerous women, and moved it to and fro for, on average, perhaps 20 to 30 minutes. The microbes were no doubt living in one or more of the aforementioned anuses (I looked it up - it isn't anii), and a number of them found their way into my urethra, where they lived and bred for many generations before being killed off by the mighty Zithromax. A gripping tale and a Manichean struggle or mere meaningless happenstance? I suppose it depends upon your point of view.
[quote]I see it's not the first time you experience one of the side effects of your activities and you obviously don't have the guts to see a qualified medic, or are you just cheap ?[/quote]
Neither.. I do that every other time, as I think it is good to 'switch up' antibiotics. The price is actually about the same.
I was happy to answer your practical questions, but please post your useful anecdotes of STDs, The Traveler, and confine disputation and hypothetical to The Fight Club.
Opebo,
you did not answer all of my questions !
Additionally my questions do have Safe Sex as subject and therefore belong to the "Safe Sex in Thailand" section. But thanks for your advice, I will attend to it as much as you attend to our advice of not going bareback.
BTW, I am astonished that you can't determine if a question is rhetorical or not, thought you are a smart guy (at least you believe so).
I found this in the Indonesia Surabaya thread:
[QUOTE=Hm Hw]Stupid me did not use a condom and I think I might have an STD now as I've been having burning sensations while [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112][CodeWord112][/url] and even sometimes when I'm not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112][CodeWord112][/url]. Can anyone recommend an English speaking STD clinic in Surabaya I can go to? Or should I go to Jakarta? This is the first time in my life I've contracted an STD so its a little scary for me. Yes I know I was stupid not to use a condom.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Opebo]Sorry to place this reply in this section, but perhaps it is urgent. Hm Hw, simply take a one time 1 gram dose of Zithromax (generic name azithromycin), which should be available at the pharmacy.[/QUOTE]
Just to let you know whith whom we deal here. I feel this is crossing the line of non acceptability. Maybe we will soon fnd a thread "Dr. Opebo in Thailand" where all barebackers can consult him.
Here the link to the report:
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sexual diseases can kill and should not be treated lightly or in a cavalier fashion. think what you like about doctors but a medical check up and medical expertise is essential when dealing with them.
the philippines, for example, relies too heavily on trips to the chemist and chemists are a hugh business there. if you go to a chemist shop there, your life is in the hands of an under paid 18 year old babe.
is this what o**** is doing? some of the barebackers will have throughly filthy pussies and only a lunatic would dip his wick there. there are no quick fix solutions. microbes want to live too and they evolve to fight off these silver bullets. this is especially so as many of the locals will not finish the course of treatment.
anyone who seels they have a sexual disease should get it medically exmained and follow through on the prescribed treatment.
Dear Tiger, I was only passing on information that I originally learned on this forum! I too used to go to the doctor and get the shot every time I got the Clap, but it really isn't necessary.
I do still go in for the shot about every other time in the interest of not taking any one antibiotic too frequently, but Zithromax is a mainstay of mongering.
[QUOTE=Billy Ibrox]There are some nasty does to be had in the Kingsom of Thailand. One reason is because the infected, people like you, and the hookers, don't get proper medical attention but prefer a jab in the arse or a yellow pack chemist. If I was you, I'd get a proper medical check up and follow the proscibed course of action.[/quote]
The 'jab in the arse' [b]is[/b] the prEscribed course of action, Billy.
[quote]BUt I'm nae you. I am as clean as the spring heather on Ben Nevis. You, on the other hand, now have insides as dirty as a Bangkok sewer.[/quote]
No, I was cured by Zithromax, Billy.
[quote]Ah dinnae ken what yer waffling about yoghurt for. Some swear by blueberries but they probably cost a pretty penny there in Thailand.[/QUOTE]
The yogurt is an attempt to re-introduce the 'good' bacteria into the intestinal tract that is inevitably killed off by the anti-biotics, along with the targeted microbes. One wishes to avoid a florescence of the 'bad' gut bacteria, as it can lead to pseudomembranous colitis, a more serious condition than the Clap by far.
o****, only pigs get cured.
if you have no got a clearance after a full blood and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] sample from a qualified doctor, you are not cured.
[quote=billy ibrox]if you have no got a clearance after a full blood and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] sample from a qualified doctor, you are not cured.[/quote]
no, in fact the treatment applied causes the symptoms to cease and not return, so the microbes have been killed off. untill the next exposure of course!
full blood and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] sample, for clamydia/gonorrhea! what ridiculous overkill. but i understand that such wasteful shenanegans probably assuage your sexual guilt. happily i am free of such feelings, and am no more embarrassed by the clap than by a headcold.
i apologize if this posting appears confrontational, but i do think that the psychological aspect of stds is worth discussing - after all these are mostly incredibly minor ailments, except for the one that is incredibly hard to catch, so the obsessive attention we give them is quite telling.