Safe Sex

[QUOTE=Gentleman17]Cunnilingus is very unlikely to transmit anything in either direction (except when there are open sores, e.g. syphilis or herpes, but half of us have herpes anyway).[/QUOTE]
Genital herpes is a life-long, often debilitating, infection that really shouldn't be treated so lightly. And it can be transmitted even where there are no visible symptoms. [url]http://www.herpesonline.org/hsv1vs2.html[/url]

[QUOTE]I used to think it was a bad thing for sex workers to give BBBJ (uncovered fellatio). Now I conclude that it is not so bad for the sex workers, given that the main risk is a treatable bacterial infection (gonorrhea or syphilis) as long as they get tested regularly and treated when infected.[/QUOTE]
Sounds fair in theory, but it doesn't work that way in practice.

a) Overuse of antibiotics leads to drug-resistance. Drug treatment should always be viewed as an undesirable consequence, never a frontline defence.

b) Regular testing, while certainly important, is a case of closing the gate once the horse has bolted. The idea of sex workers being 'medically monitored' gives clients a false sense of security, but in reality it is completely useless in terms of risk prevention within the sex industry. Even if a sex worker was tested EVERY DAY: when you factor in STI gestation periods, waiting times for results and the number of clients she sees per day, it becomes glaringly obvious that a 'clean' medical certificate is not worth the paper it's printed on. As for regular testing being instrumental in sex worker health, it really only limits the potential for long-term effects of STIs (such as infertility, PID, etc). The simple fact is...for BBBJ to be free of risk for female sex workers, it's the CLIENTS who need to be tested regularly, not the hookers!

c) Sex workers, by definition, earn their living from sex. When a person is told they have an STI, they will be asked to abstain from sex until the infection is cleared, but you simply can't do that if sex is your livelihood. Taking time off to heal is a luxury that most sex workers cannot afford. It's not like they get sick pay or worker's compensation! While many sex workers will choose to provide safe alternative services during treatment (eg. hand relief), many others are not in a position to do so - which can lead to a never-ending cycle of transmission and re-infection. People are always quick to condemn sex workers who work while infected, and most countries have laws criminalising that behaviour, but nobody seems to realise that this is their JOB and without it, their bills don't get paid. I'm sure most sex workers don't want to intentionally hurt anyone, but when it comes to the crunch, what do you think is most important to the average hooker...protecting their clients or feeding their children? "Getting tested and treated" may sound like an easy and painless solution for sex workers, but I can assure you, it's not.

Sorry if this sounds like I'm attacking your post. That wasn't my intention. I just wanted to give you a sex worker perspective. Good on you for caring enough to do the research and post it here for the benefit of your fellow mongers.

Copy from teh Ethiopian page as its a health issue
Quote WASTER99:
You're killing your stomach, 100 mg doxycyklin for 6-7 day is more than enough for Clamydia and 1 pill of Ciproxcin 200 mg is enough for Ghonnorrea (missspeld?)

John Auro:
doxicycline for malaria even for 2 months /Norfloxacin dangerous
Sorry, u r wrong,
doxicycline is recommended as a propylaxe for malaria, 100mg/day even for one or 2 months, so taking it for 15 days is just peanuts....
Also i don't feel the tablets disturbing my stomac at all, the doxcy. are very very salubrious for me...
john
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However the NORFLOXACIN which you wrote in your earlier report nearly killed my head (makes you dizzy and uncomfortable if taken several times per year over years...), i estimate it very dangerous....
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QUOTE WASTER99:
2) I start everyday with a profylactic antibiotic called Norfloxacin 400 mg (Lexinor brandname sometimes), Norfloxacin killes fast growing bacterias in the stomach, urinal tract and gives you a far better chance to withstand any problems
WASTER99

[QUOTE=John Auro]Copy from the Ethiopian page as its a health issue

Quote WASTER99:

You're killing your stomach, 100 mg doxycyklin for 6-7 day is more than enough for Clamydia and 1 pill of Ciproxcin 200 mg is enough for Ghonnorrea (missspeld?)

John Auro:

Doxicycline for malaria even for 2 months /Norfloxacin dangerous

Sorry, you are wrong,

Doxicycline is recommended as a propylaxe for malaria, 100mg/day even for one or 2 months, so taking it for 15 days is just peanuts.

Also I don't feel the tablets disturbing my stomac at all, the doxcy. Are very very salubrious for me.

John

However the NORFLOXACIN which you wrote in your earlier report nearly killed my head (makes you dizzy and uncomfortable if taken several times per year over years.), I estimate it very dangerous.

[QUOTE]WASTER99:

2) I start everyday with a profylactic antibiotic called Norfloxacin 400 mg (Lexinor brandname sometimes), Norfloxacin killes fast growing bacterias in the stomach, urinal tract and gives you a far better chance to withstand any problems

WASTER99[/QUOTE]Doxycycline is a safe and easy to use broad range tetracycline antibiotic that can treat things from UTI to acne to respiratory issues. Very safe and OK to take but slow acting on some UTI's. Can combine with other Antibiotics.

Norfloxacin is a second generation Fluoroquinolone (now up to fourth generations overall) and not one that I would typically recommend but it is pretty much sold as Noroxin and used pretty much as a drug of last resort. This would not be my first recommendation to people. It has some serious adverse reactions and is not a med I'd advise people to look at if they are not under doctors care.

Doxycycline I have no issue with people looking to take to treat issues.

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[b][u]EDITOR'S SUGGESTION[/u]:[/b] [blue]This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the [u]Safe Sex[/u] topic in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for this type of information. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue]

I was wondering if anyone could recommend a internet pharmacy or other source where I can purchase Doxycycline without a prescription. I live in the USA and need about 20 pills.

[b]Portions of China, India, Russia have the greatest reported drug resistance cases of TB in significant numbers.

Tijuana, Mexico - CDC Alert
[post=1024792] TB in TJ May 2010[/post]

Short term doggie, a position to avoid direct TB cough.

Other Link: [url]http://www.hpa.org.uk/Topics/InfectiousDiseases/InfectionsAZ/Tuberculosis/[/url][/b]

OK guys I am gonna give you the correct drugs and dosages. I am an RN and remote medic finishing up my advanced nurse practicioner degree. If in doubt seek medical assistance. THIS IS A GUIDELINE ONLY....

PO= oral
BID= twice a day

STD's
Chlamydia: azithromycin 1 gm single dose or doxycycline 100mg PO BID for 7 days
Syphillis: doxycycline 100mg PO BID for 14 days
Gonorrhea: cefixime (Suprax) 400mg PO (single dose)
PID: levofloxacin (Levaquin) 500 mg PO daily + metronidazole (Flagyl) 500 mg PO BID for 14 days

Infectious Diarrhea/Travelers Diarrhea
ciprofloxacin (Cipro) 500 mg PO BID 3-5 days

Dog/Cat bite (never know when you are in some 3rd world chit hole)
Amoxicillin clavulanate (Augmentin) 875 mg PO BID x10 days

Malaria (prophylaxis)
doxycycline : 2 mg/kg day up to 100mg PO starting 1-2 days before exposure until 4 weeks after returning.

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originally posted by biffa
are those doses taken as you're there as preventative measures, or only if you know you have one of the bugs listed?

those are for treatment of std's and for infectious diarrhea, the malaria is for prevention.

this is the dose/regimen for unprotected sex, it is what we give to sexual assauly/[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] victims, male or female, so if you have unprotected sex and you want to take precautionary measures take this:

ceftriaxone (rocephin) 125 mg im (intramuscular) single dose/or cefixime (suprax) 400 mg po single dose + metronidazole (flagyl) 2 gm po single dose + azithromycin 1 gm po single dose/or doxycycline 100 mg po bid for 7 days

this would cover chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, trichomoniasis and possibly prevention from obtaining pid from a infected female.

hope this helps.

I've been mongering for about 10 years (i'm now 35) and lately i've been having difficulty cumming when wearing condoms. I've tried all types of condoms, big, small, thick, thin, and i just can't seem to cum with them. If I do manage to finish it is after putting on and tearing off 3-5 condoms per session. If I decide to go bareback, I finish in like 2 minutes. The whole thought of putting on a condom now almost makes my dick limp.

Have any of you had this problem? Is this a sign of aging?

[QUOTE=Amjeck]I've been mongering for about 10 years (i'm now 35) and lately i've been having difficulty cumming when wearing condoms. I've tried all types of condoms, big, small, thick, thin, and i just can't seem to cum with them. If I do manage to finish it is after putting on and tearing off 3-5 condoms per session. If I decide to go bareback, I finish in like 2 minutes. The whole thought of putting on a condom now almost makes my dick limp.

Have any of you had this problem? Is this a sign of aging?[/QUOTE]
I'm only 30 and sometimes I have the same problem too. I can't believe it's age related because early-mid thirties is still pretty young. For me, I started barebacking heavily when I was in The Philippines last summer for a couple months straight, and after that I had problems going back to using condoms. It just didn't feel right wearing a condom after that. Part of the problem I think is the condoms here in Asia where I currently reside just do not fit me right. They're too tight and sometimes I can't feel anything. But I think part of it is mental, too. It's gotten to the point now where, depending on the girl, I would prefer a BBBJ over covered FS.

I guess I need to make a special trip back to Sex Prison just to stock up on condoms!

[QUOTE=Ezinho]I'm only 30 and sometimes I have the same problem too. I can't believe it's age related because early-mid thirties is still pretty young. For me, I started barebacking heavily when I was in The Philippines last summer for a couple months straight, and after that I had problems going back to using condoms. It just didn't feel right wearing a condom after that. Part of the problem I think is the condoms here in Asia where I currently reside just do not fit me right. They're too tight and sometimes I can't feel anything. But I think part of it is mental, too. It's gotten to the point now where, depenind on the girl, I would prefer a BBBJ over covered FS.

I guess I need to make a special trip back to Sex Prison just to stock up on condoms![/QUOTE]


I had the same problem until I tried "lifestyles ultra sensitive". I've been able to cum numerous times while screwing while wearing them.

I totally feel you on the bbbj over covered sex. If the oral isn't right on both ends I don't do the session.

Try these though. A few other people I gave them to liked them.

[QUOTE=Ezinho]
But I think part of it is mental, too. It's gotten to the point now where, depending on the girl, I would prefer a BBBJ over covered FS.

[/QUOTE]
It is hard to use condoms after barebacking for so long. It is also part mental. I had this really hot, but inexperienced babe ride me bare. I had no idea & thought, wow, this feels really good. After 15 minutes I changed positions & realized it was bare. I poked her mish & barely lasted 2 minutes.

ok a lot of you guys are mentioning "it's hard to use condoms after first going bareback". I think this could be my prob because recently I've been doing some barebacking. This is something I never used to do before and using condoms was never a problem.

I've gone sessions with girls that have lasted up to an hour going through 10 condoms only to have the girl rip off the condom and say "just stick it in". Then I cum in less than a minute.

Maybe a bit of it is mental. I just don't want to get in the habit of barebacking pros all the time.

Any other condoms that are good?

[url]http://www.csinnovation.com.sg/ez-v-verrisafe-liquid-condom-for-female-only.html[/url]
EZ-V VerriSafe Liquid Condom (For Female Only)
When correctly applied, the female condom is effective in both preventing pregnancy and protection against STIs (Sexually Transmissible Infections). The gel can be inserted into the vagina up to eight hours before the act of intercourse.

[url]http://www.bluecrossbiotech.com/Products/P_L_01.htm[/url]
As a chemical antiseptic and physical barrier, it is designed to protect the vaginal and cervical surfaces. It can effectively kill gynecological disease pathogens such as staphylococcus aureus, Candida, coliform bacillus, and can prevent sexually transmitted diseases.

[url]http://shanghaiist.com/2005/11/22/hold_that_thoug.php[/url]
Nanometer-silver Cryptomorphic Condom
The invisible condom is said to be easy to apply, anti-bacterial and lubricating.

[url]http://www.futuramedical.com/content/products/csd_500.asp[/url]

CSD500 is a condom that incorporates an erectogenic compound to help men maintain a firmer erection during intercourse whilst wearing a condom. A pharmacological dose of Glyceryl Trinitrate gel contained within the teat of the condom will be delivered to the penis. This has been clinically proven to increase local blood flow within the penis which in turn leads to increased firmness, increased penile size and longer duration of an erection.

The product will be sold throughout Europe by Durex® in the same way as conventional condoms, classified as a Class III medical device with an ancillary medicinal substance.

Equal to 50 mg Viagra or 20 Celis?

Glyceryl Trinitrate gel patch?

[QUOTE=John Dough][url]http://www.futuramedical.com/content/products/csd_500.asp[/url]

CSD500 is a condom that incorporates an erectogenic compound to help men maintain a firmer erection during intercourse whilst wearing a condom. A pharmacological dose of Glyceryl Trinitrate gel contained within the teat of the condom will be delivered to the penis. This has been clinically proven to increase local blood flow within the penis which in turn leads to increased firmness, increased penile size and longer duration of an erection.

The product will be sold throughout Europe by Durex® in the same way as conventional condoms, classified as a Class III medical device with an ancillary medicinal substance.[/QUOTE]