Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2482506] Hell, I have told both of them I am seeing other people, and they are both cool with it.[/QUOTE]Exactly. This is why I told my new GF that I'm married with a family. There was a firestorm initially, but if she's not going to be cool with it, then I needed to bail now. This is also why I prefer being with semi-pros, pros, arrangements, and MP gals. Because they are also seeing other people, and so we all know the score going into this game. I was seeing a married chick last year who had no desire of breaking up her family, and that was great. For a while, I was telling girls that I was divorced, but that could go either way, and now I believe it's best to let them know that any relationship we have may not be exclusive.

[QUOTE=BrizLad;2482625]In my experience, they are cool with it because they too are seeing other people. They just prefer not to tell you.[/QUOTE]Once you favorite people on Seeking, you can see when they log in. So yeah, there are some who swear their loyalty to me and are on the site the next day, but there are others, in fact, I would say most who say they are only seeing me, who have given up the site. Honestly, I usually do not bring up he loyalty thing, the women do. Sure, they could get another profile if they are smart, but honestly most do not know how I track them. Even if they try to hide their logins, I can still see when they log on.

It is amusing to look at their social media accounts and see what is going on. I have a female friend who has shown me a ton of tricks with social media. It is like a law for the under 30 types to post their whole lives online. I have to be careful that the women do not post photos of us.

I usually do not even have to ask for women's Instagram accounts, the women throw them at me but forget they have given me access. I saw one with a video on it with a heart shaped frame of a guy with her and him kissing her. I asked the woman about this, and she denied this guy was her boyfriend. When I told my female friend about this, she looked at it like a challenge, checked out who was liking her IG photos, and she picked up her boyfriend in no time. She proudly said, "I am the queen bee of social media stalking."

For most women, I really do not care. If they are totally into me when we are together that is all I can ask for. I try to keep those as pay per meet hookerish types. In fact, it is actually kind of fun needling the ones that you know are playing around with others about how loyal they are to you.

[QUOTE=SonicBoom1;2482488]But isn't it fake affection that will end as soon as the money stops. The right words should be," You can get sex anywhere. You can't find an act of fake affection (like a movie) anywhere". Gold Digger is a real word.

Its important not to delude ourselves. Women are experienced at this fake affection stuff. That's how many of them find husbands to take care of them.[/QUOTE]Honestly I believe the affection is real with some girls. But frankly I don't care. Just so long as I never know! Of course Brasileiras have a distinct advantage here where they have the unique ability to be in the moment and totally committed.

I do feel like Thifany and I had real affection. I mean we would kiss for 5 or more minutes And she would never break the liplock first. Not once. Ever. She didn't have to do that. And then she got engaged three months later. Brasileiras!

And a few other girls Ive felt strong affection with — not just in the bedroom. But as long as I don't know the truth I don't care.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2482686]Once you favorite people on Seeking, you can see when they log in. So yeah, there are some who swear their loyalty to me and are on the site the next day, but there are others, in fact, I would say most who say they are only seeing me, who have given up the site. Honestly, I usually do not bring up he loyalty thing, the women do. Sure, they could get another profile if they are smart, but honestly most do not know how I track them. Even if they try to hide their logins, I can still see when they log on.

It is amusing to look at their social media accounts and see what is going on. I have a female friend who has shown me a ton of tricks with social media. It is like a law for the under 30 types to post their whole lives online. I have to be careful that the women do not post photos of us.

I usually do not even have to ask for women's Instagram accounts, the women throw them at me but forget they have given me access. I saw one with a video on it with a heart shaped frame of a guy with her and him kissing her. I asked the woman about this, and she denied this guy was her boyfriend. When I told my female friend about this, she looked at it like a challenge, checked out who was liking her IG photos, and she picked up her boyfriend in no time. She proudly said, "I am the queen bee of social media stalking."

For most women, I really do not care. If they are totally into me when we are together that is all I can ask for. I try to keep those as pay per meet hookerish types. In fact, it is actually kind of fun needling the ones that you know are playing around with others about how loyal they are to you.[/QUOTE]For the most part I do not care either, there are rare occasions. Some try to make me jealous, but those days are pretty much gone, having too much fun. I do not look at there social media, better to not know anything, then I can play dumb.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2482879]Honestly I believe the affection is real with some girls. But frankly I don't care. Just so long as I never know! Of course Brasileiras have a distinct advantage here where they have the unique ability to be in the moment and totally committed..[/QUOTE]As you say, Brasileiras can be totally in the moment. Brazilian women are addictive that way. And yes, they can turn it off as fast as that and be on to the next guy. They are however almost always "with you" when you are together. I think Brasileiras have a strong sense of romance.

I'm not sure if you have said that you don't bother with SA when you are in Brazil. It's almost unnecessary. While not every Brazilian escort is going to hang out with you, there are plenty of them that like having a good time and chilling outside the bedroom.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2483074]As you say, Brasileiras can be totally in the moment. Brazilian women are addictive that way. And yes, they can turn it off as fast as that and be on to the next guy. They are however almost always "with you" when you are together. I think Brasileiras have a strong sense of romance.

I'm not sure if you have said that you don't bother with SA when you are in Brazil. It's almost unnecessary. While not every Brazilian escort is going to hang out with you, there are plenty of them that like having a good time and chilling outside the bedroom.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Brazil is some place I would never do SA. The Boates are simply too awesome. And you get romance right there in the club. Karina and I chattted and danced and kissed for two hours before getting a room. And she invited me to the beach next day. Andressa and Josy both spent an hour or more with me before taking it to the room. Thifany was a five hour affair with two rounds. Carolina I guarantee was super sad when I had to leave at 1 Am our second time together. She clearly wanted me to stay for another round and overnight.

Brasileiras are just unique and wonderful.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2482879]I mean we would kiss for 5 or more minutes And she would never break the liplock first. Not once. Ever. She didn't have to do that. And then she got engaged three months later. Brasileiras!

And a few other girls Ive felt strong affection with not just in the bedroom. But as long as I don't know the truth I don't care.[/QUOTE]Yep, as long as they are loyal to me when we are together, I am good.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2482514]In my many years in this hobby my moto has always been: "If you fall in love on your trips, your falling in love by yourself. " Having met probably hundreds of women over my career, I will tell you, this has been very difficult to stick to more than once. Fell in love with a Carioca years ago, drop dead natural beauty resembled Jessica Alba, we went to Buzios for a few days and asked her to move in with me and she said yes. Lucky for me she saw a Garota leaving my apartment a few days later and as most of you know what a pissed off Brasilera is like. Romance over! The other was in Costa Rica from Perez Zeladon, again I was in love by myself. Finally I met a Beautiful Colombiana. A casacita, non drinker, no makeup, no fume, totally natural, brilliant student in the Nat'l University been together for over 3 years now. But here's the difference, she has never been a prepago, I think an important distinction if you looking for love. How you meet a woman has an enormous impact on the future of the relationship. Good luck, and guard your heart brothers.[/QUOTE]Good post.

Do you guys use different profiles for your at home town SBs and your on trip SBs?

I feel that my story would be different for each profile and using the same profile would signal my activities to the others.

Also, does anyone research the other SD profiles in your area or have an idea of what particular words attract SBs?

Planning on trashing my old profile and starting a new one.

Here are my humble suggestions, which are based on my experience and based on what SBs have told or revealed to me:

(1) Set your age at around mid-40's. Many SBs have told me that young SDs are assholes. And of course, many of them think SDs over 50 are a bit too old, since they want to find someone who can keep up with them in and out of the bedroom.

(2) Add an inch or two to your height if you're short. Every short guy lies about their height, so if you're short, then you might as well lie about yours too.

(3) Consider using a high number for your net worth. I tinkered with this quite a bit, and I found that using a high net worth attracted more girls, obviously, but to my surprise these girls asked me less about giving them money. I think some girls don't seek the richer guys just to get more money, but they just want to be with richer guys. It doesn't mean you have to show up in a phat ride. Most girls understand that many rich guys don't show off their wealth.

(4) For my profile description, one of the things that I wrote was that I was looking for an occasional travel partner. This got a lot of girls' attentions. Seems that a lot of girls want to take a vacation every once in a while.

(5) For keywords in my profile, I found that "easy going" and "smart" got many SBs' attentions.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=BrizLad;2483195]Do you guys use different profiles for your at home town SBs and your on trip SBs?

I feel that my story would be different for each profile and using the same profile would signal my activities to the others.

Also, does anyone research the other SD profiles in your area or have an idea of what particular words attract SBs?

Planning on trashing my old profile and starting a new one.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2483456]Here are my humble suggestions, which are based on my experience and based on what SBs have told or revealed to me:
Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips. I'm sure lots of guys embellish their wealth and their height.

I'll set something up later this month.

First — great tips MW. Agree with all. As far as the OP I just added a Covid Update at the bottom on my profile that says I after a local girl right now. Seems to be working fine.

So if you recall Layla appeared to Ghost me about halfway thru our $1000 arrangement month. But then came back. As luck would have it we were able to see each other a lot over a couple days. As in fuck at night. Fuck in the morning (different visit). Then next day at night and then in the morning. So really four visits in total like back to back. It's nice not to be pulling out the wallet every time.

She is asked if we are moving to Monthly and I Said sure. Because I do like not dealing with it. Maybe I come in low one month and high another. I am OK with that and like the casualness of it. This is my first arrangement other than PPM and it has its pluses.

I know of course when it ends I will probably be eating all or a portion of that month but that's Ok. Actually going to suggest a bi-monthly $500 instead which will keep things more in check.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2483642]First great tips MW. Agree with all. As far as the OP I just added a Covid Update at the bottom on my profile that says I after a local girl right now. Seems to be working fine.

So if you recall Layla appeared to Ghost me about halfway thru our $1000 arrangement month. But then came back. As luck would have it we were able to see each other a lot over a couple days. As in fuck at night. Fuck in the morning (different visit). Then next day at night and then in the morning. So really four visits in total like back to back. It's nice not to be pulling out the wallet every time.

She is asked if we are moving to Monthly and I Said sure. Because I do like not dealing with it. Maybe I come in low one month and high another. I am OK with that and like the casualness of it. This is my first arrangement other than PPM and it has its pluses.

I know of course when it ends I will probably be eating all or a portion of that month but that's Ok. Actually going to suggest a bi-monthly $500 instead which will keep things more in check.[/QUOTE]I have tried monthly a couple times, but it normally ends fairly quickly. My expectations go up. Work, vacations, friends and other issues usually get in the way. I would pay weekly, to prevent being scammed, but it never seems to work out. You would think it would be easier, but not the cases, plus the incentive for the girl to behave and be on time, kind of goes out the window. Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2483643]I have tried monthly a couple times, but it normally ends fairly quickly. My expectations go up. Work, vacations, friends and other issues usually get in the way. I would pay weekly, to prevent being scammed, but it never seems to work out. You would think it would be easier, but not the cases, plus the incentive for the girl to behave and be on time, kind of goes out the window. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]I did set up a weekly $500 automated payment to the SBs account. That was fine but over time she lost the connection between performing in bed and the reason for being paid.

As Steve 9696 said when it ends you basically get ripped off the final payment.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2483643]I have tried monthly a couple times, but it normally ends fairly quickly. My expectations go up. Work, vacations, friends and other issues usually get in the way. I would pay weekly, to prevent being scammed, but it never seems to work out. You would think it would be easier, but not the cases, plus the incentive for the girl to behave and be on time, kind of goes out the window. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]I had a few monthly allowance arrangements. For two of them, we kept doing the math in our heads all the time. I was trying to see her enough times so that the amount was below $500 per meet, and she was trying to see me as little as possible so that she was making more than $500 per meet. Needless to say, both arrangements ended quickly. However, one monthly allowance arrangement worked really well for me, but that was only because she was crazy about me, and even gave me a key to her apartment. She wanted me to see her every day. So, from my limited experience with monthly allowance arrangements, I would only go into one if she seemed like she was crazy about me.

I am about to start a new monthly allowance arrangement ($1,200 per month), because she seems to be genuinely into me. For example, she keeps complaining that we don't spend enough time together. But we are currently doing too much date stuff and not spending enough time between the sheets. Eventually, if I don't average at least 3 lays per month for the first 3 months, then I will bail. Like Steven said, I will probably have to eat that last month's allowance.