Makati

Not sure how many of you are following the mess the CEO of astronomer got himself into. Its circulating on tiktok and insta.

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/astronomer-ceo-andy-byron-wife-222557843.html[/URL]

I know the guy a bit. His life is in soup now. I am always concerned about what I do getting unwanted attention. The risks we all play with.

[QUOTE=KbNagar;3014672]During my last visit to Makati, I spent sometime with a bargirl, couple of mamasans and managers at one of the bars (starts with D). Looks like the overheads for these bars over a period of time has been going up. There is free flow money to LEs and other thug services that they employ. Managers feel that they have been done to protect us. There are eyes in the bar checking girls to see that they don't have their phones, customers don't become a nuisance and in an off case handle things quietly. I was told that there are no silly robberies or credit card thefts within the bars. Burgos seems to be seasonal but the cash that flows out needs to constant. I don't think they have good models to determine pricing, and with everything in Phillipines (which is closer to brain damaged), they jack up prices whenever they see / hear demand. With FL scene going up, bars do feel the pinch since all girls are on PL and don't show up randomly in the bar. Managing this ecosystem without deep technology is hard and this is what you get -- Prices moving only in one direction.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3015208]Just be nice to the staff, front desk, security and housekeeping, meaning tip them few hundred peso, and you'll be fine. Do it upon arrival, not when bringing the girls in.

You'll find instructions on initiating a 3 some step by step in a guide I wrote some time ago, maybe last year or so.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Yes, in other countries I always tip the doorman / security, housekeeping, bell boys etc. I must admit I have never tipped the front desk staff in a nice hotel, it never seems appropriate as I view them as higher level employees. To be honest front desk staff don't ever seem to be keeping an eye on who is coming or going anyway, that is deferred to security, bell captain etc.

In terms of the actual threesome I have made contact with two bisexual couples (FF) via seeking. Neither couple is particularly hot if I'm honest but from what I can gather they are actually real couples that are in a relationship and live together.

I've never had a threesome before and I only want to have one if the two girls are genuinely into each other, not some fake shit.

I think I may have read your guide at some point, and I've definitely read about your excellent 3 some escapades but they require more time and effort on the ground and I'll only be in Ph about a week.

Appreciate your reply, thanks.

[QUOTE=Anzac;3014154]Hi Gents. I first started mongering in PI in the late 90's, a regular to AC, Malate, Makati. But, mostly due to the pandemic, its been near on 7 years now since I've partied in Makati.

Can someone please explain. When did a 5 K tip on top of a barfine become a thing. I mean, I used to pay 3000 for the BF and the girl's fee was included in that, and then if she gave good service would.

Give a 500 peso tip the next morning. [/QUOTE]Unlike AC, Burgos girls have never gotten a portion of the barfine (in the 20+ years I have been coming to P Burgos) and have relied solely on being tipped afterward for their income (other than drinks.) So, that is why they are so adamant about getting their substantial tip after the deed.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;3015295]Thanks. Yes, in other countries I always tip the doorman / security, housekeeping, bell boys etc. I must admit I have never tipped the front desk staff in a nice hotel, it never seems appropriate as I view them as higher level employees. To be honest front desk staff don't ever seem to be keeping an eye on who is coming or going anyway, that is deferred to security, bell captain etc.
[/QUOTE]A box of chocolates from the US always goes over well with the front desk.

[QUOTE=Transporter;3016441]A box of chocolates from the US always goes over well with the front desk.[/QUOTE]Ahhh, the art of tipping! Some know how to and some will never know. Mostly do it discreetly and enjoy the benefits. Enough said. Not all are believers in tipping.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09VTO9RN2OI[/URL]

I'm still waiting for the day I see an actual law passed in the Fils that is enforced properly in anyway shape or form.

Location: Makati, Manila, Philippines (P. Burgos Street).

A small massage shop about a minute away from the main street.

Scam: Broken Condom Payment.

Details: There are a number of women going up and down P Burgos offering massage and more, many of them ladyboys. One lady offered to take me to a massage shop about a minute away from the main street. I had seen it before as it is on the 2nd floor of a building with Massage / Spa written in neon. When I got there, a ladyboy and the woman negotiated to 3000 pesos for massage and sex. I double confirmed the woman was a woman as her companion was definitely a ladyboy. I was led to a very small room where I disrobed and laid down. The lady gave me a weak massage, but her ladyboy friend started to also massage me. I polite asked the ladyboy to leave, but he kept trying to join in. I insisted he leave and he finally stopped and left. I flipped over and the woman disrobed, talked how sex was illegal so to be quiet. She went into reverse cowgirl and I eventually came.

This is where things went bad. She suddenly said the condom broke and asked what we should do. I reached down and did feel something on the outside of the condom. In retrospect, I should have checked the condom for holes before removing it, but I just wanted to leave. She started saying she was only a student (a very old one if true) and she needed money as she might be pregnant. I told her my tubes were tied so not to worry. The ladyboy then entered and said it was my responsibility to pay for what happened. They allowed me to dress, I paid them the 3000, but they kept blocking me from leaving claiming medical expenses. On the street, she asked for 11,000 pesos to get a medical check, so I said let's go to the police. As we got closer to the street, the ladyboy started grabbing and pushing me, demanding money, then throwing my glasses on the ground. I eventually forced my way to the street and found a police stand. The lady actually came, but said I hadn't paid her yet. I was honest and said I did pay for the service and she was asking for more. Surprisingly, the woman admitted to prostitution but didn't mention the broken condom. Eventually, the police just told me to leave.

A few notes: I found a lotion bottle while I was getting dressed. I'm not positive, but I think what she did was put lotion on the condom and then claimed it broke. She didn't seem all that upset when the condom broke and I didn't actually check, so it felt very much like a scam. This whole situation has really put me off mongering, especially in the Philippines, so I'm going to take a break for now.

[QUOTE=Stevester;3017663]Location: Makati, Manila, Philippines (P. Burgos Street).

A small massage shop about a minute away from the main street.

Scam: Broken Condom Payment.

SNIP

A few notes: I found a lotion bottle while I was getting dressed. I'm not positive, but I think what she did was put lotion on the condom and then claimed it broke. She didn't seem all that upset when the condom broke and I didn't actually check, so it felt very much like a scam. This whole situation has really put me off mongering, especially in the Philippines, so I'm going to take a break for now.[/QUOTE]Good / informative freshman post. Sorry you got the scam. Unfortunately, and I think regulars here would agree, the occasional scam, pick-pocket, and no-shows are part of playing the game here. Scamming is not necessarily looked down upon by the locals here ("Extreme opportunism" might be a better term). You played it rather well, given the aggressiveness of the ladyboy. While the old rub-and-tug is fairly popular on Burgos, your post also points out the seediness of the operation. Don't blame you if you don't come back.

I have landed manila late at night and as suggested by many in the forum took the yellow metered cab outside the airport to the condo. I have planned my trip very early and have scheduled whom I need to sleep with while I am staying in Makati.

Day 1:

Night & Morning:

I have scheduled with a 28 why. O to meet me in the condo just when I arrived. She came on time and we entered the condo. She is totally a sub, had a great session with her. We both went out and to check few bars in the burgous. Entered into the Bottoms first. The girls in the Bottoms put up an amazing dance show. Since I am with my girl, the girls in the bar does not hit us up and disturbed us. We spent some time there fooled around then headed to Maison. Maison seems to be dull so does not care to spend time there. Headed back to the room, the show the girls put on Bottoms have spiced my mood. Had an amazing session with the girl and we dozed of. Morning I was too tired because of the travel, my girl understood that and finished me with a good sloppy BJ. We had a bath together and said goodbye to her in the morning.

Damage: 6000 PHP.

Noon:

After the girl left, I went out for the lunch and took rest for sometime. The next girl which I have scheduled messaged me that she will be coming late by 1 hour than the scheduled time. Finally she arrived. She told she was 24 why. O but looks a like old may be early 30's but still looks beautiful. Unlike the first girl she is very shy and vanilla in sex. We are done with the deed and sent her back.

Damage: 3000 PHP.

Night:

Scheduled for a date night with a 20 why. O very attractive and beautiful girl. We went to the club with some of her friends. Had a great night with booze and beautiful girl by my side. Came back room around 5 am in the morning both of us pretty drunk.

Day2 & Day3:

We woke up only late in the morning. Both of us got ready and went out for some sightseeing, lunch and dinner. It feels good to be around with a young beautiful girl.

The next day also we went out for lunch and dinner date. And whenever we are back in the condo we had a great fu*k. I need to struggle a bit to match her energy in bed.

Later in the evening she got a call from her home to come back. I send her back.

Day3 Night:

Went to Lips bar spend some time there but the girls working that night seems so dull and no one attracts or put the effort to attract.

Then again I went to bottoms. Just had a drink and came out.

While coming back home I pinged few of the saved contacts, only one returned my message and agreed to meet for the night. She came late to the condo. She is in her late 20's. The s*x was average. She seems so boring in bed. But stayed till morning. We had 2 rounds and she stepped out.

Damage: 4000 PHP.

Day 4:

This is the last day of my trip. I have scheduled with 2 girls on that day. But the weather showed no mercy to me, it rained heavily that day and both of scheduled contact I have cancelled considering their safety. Some how my return flight was not cancelled.

I have already scheduled my next trip this year end.

P.S.: A big thanks to WestCoast1, as this is my first time in the country I have asked many questions to him and he patiently gave details response for all of my queries.

[QUOTE=Stevester;3017663]Location: Makati, Manila, Philippines (P. Burgos Street).

A small massage shop about a minute away from the main street.

Scam: Broken Condom Payment.

Details: There are a number of women going up and down P Burgos offering massage and more, many of them ladyboys. One lady offered to take me to a massage shop about a minute away from the main street. I had seen it before as it is on the 2nd floor of a building with Massage / Spa written in neon. When I got there, a ladyboy and the woman negotiated to 3000 pesos for massage and sex. I double confirmed the woman was a woman as her companion was definitely a ladyboy. I was led to a very small room where I disrobed and laid down. The lady gave me a weak massage, but her ladyboy friend started to also massage me. I polite asked the ladyboy to leave, but he kept trying to join in. I insisted he leave and he finally stopped and left. I flipped over and the woman disrobed, talked how sex was illegal so to be quiet. She went into reverse cowgirl and I eventually came.

This is where things went bad. She suddenly said the condom broke and asked what we should do. I reached down and did feel something on the outside of the condom. In retrospect, I should have checked the condom for holes before removing it, but I just wanted to leave. She started saying she was only a student (a very old one if true) and she needed money as she might be pregnant. I told her my tubes were tied so not to worry. The ladyboy then entered and said it was my responsibility to pay for what happened. They allowed me to dress, I paid them the 3000, but they kept blocking me from leaving claiming medical expenses. On the street, she asked for 11,000 pesos to get a medical check, so I said let's go to the police. As we got closer to the street, the ladyboy started grabbing and pushing me, demanding money, then throwing my glasses on the ground. I eventually forced my way to the street and found a police stand. The lady actually came, but said I hadn't paid her yet. I was honest and said I did pay for the service and she was asking for more. Surprisingly, the woman admitted to prostitution but didn't mention the broken condom. Eventually, the police just told me to leave.

A few notes: I found a lotion bottle while I was getting dressed. I'm not positive, but I think what she did was put lotion on the condom and then claimed it broke. She didn't seem all that upset when the condom broke and I didn't actually check, so it felt very much like a scam. This whole situation has really put me off mongering, especially in the Philippines, so I'm going to take a break for now.[/QUOTE]Having a Ladyboy involved at any point is the biggest red flag. They are nothing but bad news in the PI. The fact that "she" even followed you into the room was confirmation. You were definitely a scam target.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;3016504]Ahhh, the art of tipping! Some know how to and some will never know. Mostly do it discreetly and enjoy the benefits. Enough said. Not all are believers in tipping.[/QUOTE]Buy bags of chocolate like M&Ms to give out. They don't melt in the heat.
Oh yeah... buy all diff size bags> Keep those small bags from Halloween too

[QUOTE=Lalake;3018573]Buy bags of chocolate like M&Ms to give out. They don't melt in the heat.
Oh yeah... buy all diff size bags> Keep those small bags from Halloween too[/QUOTE]I have to disagree with you. Thais is not a pro tip but an amateur tip imo. It amounts to 3 pesos. We are talking about tipping in PH. People are barely surviving. A cash tip is what can be used.

Besides who would want to carry around a bag of Halloween candy? Bills fit in the pocket much better.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3017701]Good / informative freshman post. Sorry you got the scam. Unfortunately, and I think regulars here would agree, the occasional scam, pick-pocket, and no-shows are part of playing the game here. Scamming is not necessarily looked down upon by the locals here ("Extreme opportunism" might be a better term). You played it rather well, given the aggressiveness of the ladyboy. While the old rub-and-tug is fairly popular on Burgos, your post also points out the seediness of the operation. Don't blame you if you don't come back.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;3017778]Having a Ladyboy involved at any point is the biggest red flag. They are nothing but bad news in the PI. The fact that "she" even followed you into the room was confirmation. You were definitely a scam target.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Stevester;3017663]Location: Makati, Manila, Philippines (P. Burgos Street).
There are a number of women going up and down P Burgos offering massage and more, many of them ladyboys. One lady offered to take me to a massage shop about a minute away from the main street. I had seen it before as it is on the 2nd floor of a building with Massage / Spa written in neon. When I got there, a ladyboy and the woman negotiated to 3000 pesos for massage and sex. I double confirmed the woman was a woman as her companion was definitely a ladyboy. I was led to a very small room where I disrobed and laid down. The lady gave me a weak massage, but her ladyboy friend started to also massage me. I polite asked the ladyboy to leave, but he kept trying to join in. I insisted he leave and he finally stopped and left. I flipped over and the woman disrobed, talked how sex was illegal so to be quiet. She went into reverse cowgirl and I eventually came.

This is where things went bad.[/QUOTE]Hi Steve,

Expat is definitely correct. The Bakla can be absolute see*nts. Have nothing to do with them.

I mentioned a while back in a Sabang post how one of my contacts explained exactly how they operate.

Westie also puts your experience into perspective very well.

I wouldn't discount one bad experience for you not to return.

The Phils can, and is, a great destination for fun.

We've all made mistakes, or have learnt from those experiences. Sometimes bad ones.

Move forward and enjoy!.

You won't be disappointed. Like any sport, the more you play the game, the better you get.

Just my experience _ Phil.

Like anywhere you go, there will be some good and bad. There are some good trike drivers and bad trike drivers, good taxi drivers and bad taxi drivers, good girls and bad girls, etc. The same is true for the ladyboys. In general yes I would have to agree, to avoid them as much as possible, especially if you don't have the experience in this area as one bad one can ruin your entire trip. If you run across a good bakla, he / she / they can be of a great resource. You got to figure they are out there hustling all the time, they know everybody, and they spend a lot of time out there in their craft. If they are in the same bar / scene as you are, they are in the same business that you are looking for, treat them with respect and make a friend, what's the harm in buying them a drink sharing some food, and speaking with them on the same level. Once you made a good friend with them, add them to your social media and explain what you are looking for. If you are very specific in what you are looking for, they know dozens of girls that will fit the bill and would be happy to do the leg work for you. I normally give them 500 as a finders fee to bring me something I would like. They also are a great source of information of the local girls I. E. Which ones are rumored to be bad (ripping off customers) or rumored to have "sickness" and such, and most important to me anyways which ones are new to the area. Please do not misunderstand, I do not recommend you go out looking for your own personal bakla concierge, just don't look at every bakla like they are bad people.

[QUOTE=Idiot182;3016582][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09VTO9RN2OI[/URL]

I'm still waiting for the day I see an actual law passed in the Fils that is enforced properly in anyway shape or form.[/QUOTE]I hope they enforce this on Red St in AC. Did Pea have cum on her chin?